Olimar (PM)

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Olimar
in Project M
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Universe Pikmin
Base game appearance Brawl
Moveset inspiration Olimar (SSBB)

Olimar is a playable character in the Brawl mod Project M. He comes with his Pikmin in tow and a stronger moveset for Project M. Despite the power buffs, Melee physics and higher lag in most of his attacks have put him in an unfavorable position for Project M.

Olimar ranks 37th out of 41 on the official tier list, close to the bottom of C tier. This is a huge drop from his tier placement in Brawl, where he was ranked 3rd out of 38, and is the largest any Project M character's standing has fallen when compared to their Melee or Brawl tier list.

Attributes[edit]

In Brawl, Olimar excelled at defensive gameplay, being able to camp effectively with his Pikmin. These capabilities have put Olimar 3rd on the Brawl tier list. As Project M focuses more on offensive gameplay than defensive gameplay, Olimar's moveset has been consequently altered.

Olimar's Pikmin in Project M are stronger and have more endurance than before. Also, the Pikmin now have a mechanic where their strength is dependent on the type of flower on their heads. Besides the buffs to the Pikmin, Olimar's ground game has been improved, possessing more powerful tilts, smash attacks, and throws. Olimar's aerial game also saw some positive adjustments, featuring two potential KO moves in his up and down aerials. Finally, Olimar's recovery, Pikmin Chain, which was unreliable and low-reaching in Brawl, has been replaced with the more useful Ionium Jet.

However, Olimar has many weaknesses in Project M. While he is heavier than he was in Brawl, Olimar is still fairly light, making him susceptible to KOs earlier than other characters.

Changes from Brawl to PM[edit]

While Olimar received some buffs, he has lost many of the abilities that made him effective in Brawl.

Attributes[edit]

  • Buff He is significantly heavier (82 → 90), improving his endurance, but also making him susceptible to Fox's waveshine combos.
  • Buff Pikmin health is effectively tripled (Reds: 30, Yellows: 30, Blues: 40, Whites: 14, Purples: 50), increasing their overall durability.
  • Buff Pikmin strengths are dependent on the flowers on their head; bud and flower Pikmin are more powerful. While Bud Pikmin power is equal to the Brawl Pikmin, Leaf Pikmin are weaker, and both do not possess any special effects for attacks, though Flower Pikmin are more powerful, which combined with their increased durability cause Pikmin to be overall more useful for attacks.
  • Buff White Flower Pikmin leave flowers on victims' heads for all their attacks, increasing their potential and do more pummel damage at blossom.
  • Nerf Olimar can only carry 4 Pikmin at a time, instead of 6 which limits his use of varied Pikmin and encourages Olimar players to focus more on their Pikmin's survivability within the new transformation mechanics.
  • Nerf The introduction to the Melee physics inhibit Olimar and his metagame, along with indirectly buffing most of the cast, allowing their metagames to outshine that of Olimar, which was among the best in Brawl. As with Snake, Olimar does not benefit from these physics and the techniques that come with them other than L-canceling.

Ground Attacks[edit]

  • Buff Up tilt is now a single jumping headbutt, which delivers a single quicker hit that can be used repeatedly for juggling.
  • Buff Forward tilt does much more damage now doing and is a much stronger KO move.
  • Buff Forward smash has more air time for Pikmin allowing for the hitboxes to be out for longer.
  • Nerf Jab combo and down tilt no longer have the antenna hitboxes.
  • Nerf New up tilt deals less damage.
  • Nerf Forward smash has a different animation with more ending lag.

Aerial Attacks[edit]

  • Buff Up aerial only hits once, inflicting a strong consistent damage, so it can be effectively used for juggling with weak Pikmin and as a KO move with strong ones.
  • Buff Down aerial is now a very strong meteor doing more damage.
  • Nerf Down aerial has an increased startup, comparable to that of Ness's down aerial in Brawl, no longer being a quick, reliable edgeguarding option.
  • Change Similar to Marth, Olimar turns around after using his back aerial.

Grabs and Throws[edit]

  • Buff Forward throw with Blue Pikmin does slightly more damage.
  • Buff Up throw with Blue Pikmin does significantly more base knockback.
  • Buff Pummel with flower White Pikmin does 7% in addition to poison damage.
  • Nerf Grab range is reduced.

Special Moves[edit]

  • Buff Pikmin Pluck gives Olimar a short boost upwards every time it is used in midair, so it can be used repeatedly (but not unlimitedly) to recover in a manner similar to Pound.
  • Nerf Pikmin Pluck has been slowed down.
  • Buff Olimar has a new up special: Ionium Jet. This move propels Olimar upward diagonally on a jetpack, damaging enemies along the way, and unlike Pikmin Chain its effectiveness is not based on the number of Pikmin accompanying Olimar, making this new move a more reliable recovery.
  • Nerf Ionium Jet only ledge sweetspots at the end of the move, making it easy to intercept.
  • Buff Pikmin Order has been significantly sped up, so it can be used for about five times per second, allowing to call Pikmin back with little to no ending lag.
  • Nerf Pikmin Order no longer has armor.

Revisions[edit]

3.01[edit]

  • Change Back air animation cleaned up.
  • Bug fix Initial walk speed corrected.

3.5[edit]

  • Moveset
    • Buff Yellow and White Pikmin always have the same knockback as they did with flowers in 3.0.
    • Change Red and Blue Pikmin always have approximately the same knockback as they did with buds in 3.0.
    • Change Purple Pikmin have less extreme changes in knockback depending on whether they have a leaf, bud, or flower.
    • Buff Yellow Pikmin animations are faster in all aerials.
    • Nerf White Pikmin deals less damage when latched onto opponent.
    • Nerf All Pikmin no longer deal shield damage.
    • Buff All pikmin can swim regardless of color.
      • Nerf Their elemental immunities has been removed.
    • Buff Olimar's antenna lights up reflecting the next Pikmin in line.
    • Buff Olimar plucks 4 Pikmin during in entry animation.
      • Buff He also spawns 2 Pikmin evertime he respawns.
    • Nerf All of the Pikmin's health has been reduced.
    • Buff Dash attack connects better.
    • Nerf Forward tilt has less knockback.
    • Buff Down tilt has slightly more knockback.
    • Buff Forward and up smash hitboxes come out quicker.
    • Nerf Up smash has more endlag.
    • Nerf Neutral aerial has slightly less range.
  • Forward smash (Pikmin):
    • Nerf Blue, white, and purple Pikmin deal less damage.
    • Buff Red, yellow, blue, and, white Pikmin deal slightly higher knockback.
    • Nerf Purple Pikmin deal less knockback.
    • Change Purple Pikmin now launches opponents at a more horizontal angle.
  • Up smash (Pikmin):
    • Nerf All Pikmin deal less damage and knockback
    • Change Yellow Pikmin now launch opponents at the same angle regardless of timing.
    • Change Blue, white, and purple Pikmin's launching angle has been slightly altered.
  • Down smash (Pikmin):
    • Nerf All Pikmin deals less knockback.
      • Change Angle of all Pikmin's attacks are slightly less horizontal.
    • Nerf White and purple Pikmin deal less damage.
  • Forward aerial (Pikmin):
    • Nerf All Pikmin deal slightly less damage.
  • Back aerial (Pikmin):
    • Buff Red and purple Pikmin deal slightly more damage.
    • Nerf Yellow and blue Pikmin deal slightly less damage.
    • Change Knockback angle for both red and white Pikmin has been slightly altered.
  • Up aerial (Pikmin):
    • Nerf All Pikmin excluding purple deal slightly less damage.
  • Down aerial (Pikmin):
    • Buff Yellow and purple Pikmin deal slightly more damage.
    • Nerf Blue and white Pikmin deal slightly less damage.
  • Grabs (Pikmin):
    • Buff Blue Pikmin goes slightly farther when attempting to grab.
    • Nerf Purple Pikmin travel less distance and have reduced grabbing time.
    • Nerf White Pikmin pummel deals less damage and no longer causes a flower effect.
  • Forward Throw (Pikmin):
    • Buff Red and blue Pikmin deal slightly more knockback.
    • Nerf Blue Pikmin deal slightly less damage.
    • Nerf Purple Pikmin deal slightly less knockback.
  • Back Throw (Pikmin):
    • Buff Red and blue Pikmin deal slightly more knockback.
    • Nerf Blue Pikmin deal slightly less damage.
    • Nerf Purple Pikmin deal slightly less knockback.
  • Up Throw (Pikmin):
    • Buff Red, yellow, and blue Pikmin deal slightly more knockback.
    • Nerf Red and purple Pikmin deal less damage.
    • Nerf Purple Pikmin deal slightly less knockback.
  • Down Throw (Pikmin):
    • Nerf Red and blue Pikmin deal less damage.
    • Buff Red, yellow, and blue Pikmin deal slightly more knockback.

v3.6[edit]

  • Buff Olimar has a new up special called Ionium Jet; said move acts as a jet pack, and grants Olimar height and horizontal distance. It also does not require Pikmin to recover.
    • Buff This move damages players in early frames of the move, and a powerful hit in the final frames.
  • Buff Pikmin that are flowering gain more power.

Moveset[edit]

Up to date as of version 3.6.

Name Damage Description
Olimar Red Yellow Blue White Purple
Neutral attack 3%, 2% (antenna) Olimar headbutts twice. The first attack's hitbox goes as far as the antenna on his head.
5%
Forward tilt 10% Olimar kicks both legs forward, falling to the ground. Has decent knockback at higher percentages.
Up tilt 8% Olimar hops and preforms an upwards headbutt. Olimar's head is intangible when performing this attack.
Down tilt 6% (body), 2% (antenna) Olimar slides head-first at the enemy, moving a small distance forward. Deals minimal knockback and combos well into other moves early on. The hitbox goes as far as the antenna on Olimar's head.
Dash attack 7% (clean), 4% (late) Olimar does a cartwheel forward. Deals primarily vertical knockback and a good combo starter.
Forward smash 16%-20% (clean), 12% (mid), 9% (late) 13%-15% (clean), 9% (mid), 6% (late) 14%-16% (clean), 11% (mid), 6% (late) 9%-11% (clean), 6% (mid), 3% (late) 16%-18% (clean), 16% (mid), 13% (late) A Pikmin leaps forwards with a spinning bodyslam. Damage and knockback of the move depends on which Pikmin is used, with the Red Pikmin dealing the most damage, the Purple Pikmin having the strongest knockback, and the White Pikmin being the weakest, both in damage and in knockback. A weak hit will occur if a Pikmin connects as it falls, making this move good for edgeguarding, but the Pikmin will die if thrown off the edge.
Up smash 14%-18% (clean), 10% (late) 11%-13% (clean), 10% (late) 12%-14% (clean), 9% (late) 7%-9% (clean), 5% (late) 14%-16% (clean), 10% (late) A Pikmin rockets upwards into the air. Olimar's fastest smash attack and is great move for juggling. Possesses huge knockback when it's a purple Pikmin with a flower, being able to KO at 85% on heavyweights even without charging.
Down smash 14%-18% (clean), 10% (late) 11%-13% (clean), 8% (late) 12%-14% (clean), 9% (late) 7%-9% (clean), 4% (late) 14%-16% (clean), 10% (late) Two Pikmin dashes out to simultaneously on either side. Deals no vertical knockback, making it useful against heavyweights and/or characters with short horizontal recovery. An enemy can actually hit both Pikmin if they are in between Olimar. If only one Pikmin is present when using this attack, it will attack in front of Olimar.
Neutral aerial 2% (hits 1-5) Olimar spins in place, hitting multiple times. The last hit has moderate knockback and is a potential combo starter.
Forward aerial 13-17% 10-12% 12-14% 6-8% 13-15% Olimar swings a Pikmin forward in a downward arc. Has decent vertical knockback. This move can be wavelanded from a short hop, but it is difficult to do consistently.
Back aerial 15-19% 12-14% 14-16% 8-10% 15-17% Olimar swings a Pikmin behind in a upward arc. This move turns Olimar around in the air.
Up aerial 13-17% (clean), 7% (late) 9-11% (clean), 5% (late) 11-13% (clean), 6% (late) 5-7% (clean), 3% (late) 13-15% (clean), 8% (late) Olimar lifts a Pikmin upwards over his head. An ideal KO move when used with a red or purple Pikmin. Long duration helps in pursuing air dodges.
Down aerial 15-19% (clean), 9% (late) 13-15% (clean), 8% (late) 14-16% (clean), 8% (late) 9-11% (clean), 4% (late) 15-17% (clean), 11% (late) Olimar strikes downward with a Pikmin. The move itself is a spike, being strongest with the red Pikmin and weakest with the white Pikmin.
Grab Olimar sends a Pikmin forth to grab an opponent.
Pummel 2% 2% 2% 2-6% 2% Pikmin attacks with headbutt.
Forward throw 6% 7% 12-16% 6% 7% The Pikmin releases the foe forwards. Strongest in terms of knockback with the blue Pikmin.
Back throw 7% 9% 12-16% 7% 9% The Pikmin swings the foe backwards by slamming them onto the ground. Strongest in terms of knockback with the blue Pikmin, with purple Pikmin only being slightly weaker.
Up throw 7% 9% 12-16% 6% 10% The Pikmin leaps into the air, turns the opponent upside-down, then slams them into the ground. With the blue pikmin, this move can Star KO even heavyweights at 130%, with the Purple Pikmin being slightly weaker than the blue Pikmin.
Down throw 1% (hit 1), 6% (throw) 1% (hit 1), 8% (throw) 1-5% (hit 1), 9% (throw) 1% (hit 1), 5% (throw) 1% (hit 1), 7% (throw) The Pikmin slams the foe into the ground. This throw can be used to tech-chase fastfallers and heavyweights, and can combo into an aerial at higher percentages.
Floor attack (front) 6% Gets up and headbutts both sides.
Floor attack (back) 6% Gets up and punches both sides.
Floor attack (trip) 5% Gets up and headbutts forward, and kicks backwards.
Edge attack (fast) 8% Quickly climbs up and headbutts onto the stage.
Edge attack (slow) 10% Gets up slowly and quickly sticks one foot out.
Neutral special Pikmin Pluck Olimar quickly pulls out a random Pikmin out of the ground. What type of terrain where this move is used has some influence on what type of Pikmin will be pulled out more often. Olimar can have up to four Pikmin following him, and trying to pluck another, will result in Olimar grabbing nothing and being vulnerable for a moment. Using the move in the air will make Olimar rise up a little, but it only once.
Side special Pikmin Throw 2-4% (latched hits) 2-4% (latched hits) 2-4% (latched hits) 3-5% (latched hits), 6-8% (explosion) 10% Olimar throws a Pikmin at an enemy, who will latch onto the enemy and will slowly rack up damage. Different Pikmin have different effects when thrown. If the target cannot be latched onto, or the Pikmin is Purple, it simply deals damage. The Pikmin can be reflected back at Olimar, in which case, they will stick to him instead. The player can simply use Pikmin Order to get them off and avoid taking damage.
Up special Ionium Jet 10% (startup), 1% (hits 1-7), 5% (hit 8) Olimar jets upwards diagonally, dealing damage while flying. If Olimar takes a hit while using this move, Olimar will loses his jump (even if he did not use his second jump before using Ionium Jet).
Down special Pikmin Order Olimar quickly blows his whistle, and a colored area surrounds him. Any Pikmin that are separated from Olimar will, after a split second, immediately fly to his side. This can be used to recall ones that have fallen behind or are pummeling an enemy, though Pikmin in the midst of some actions (such as travelling after being thrown) cannot be recalled. If there are no Pikmin separated from Olimar, the ones in Olimar's line will be organized by colour. If they are already in sorted order, the next colour of Pikmin will be sorted to the front, following the order of Red, Yellow, Blue, White, and Purple, with the previous front-runners being shifted to the back. As various Pikmin have different strengths, Olimar must do this to control his lineup to get the most out of it.
Final Smash End of Day 10% (bury), 15% (ascent), 1-43% (Bulborbs), 10% (descent), 15%/20% (explosion) Olimar takes off in the S.S. Dolphin, leaving his opponents alone for Red Bulborbs to attack them. Afterwards, the ship crash lands back onto the stage, hurting anyone in its path.

In competitive play[edit]

Notable players[edit]

Alternate costumes[edit]

In terms of cosmetics, Olimar now has a clearer blue team color, his black costume from Brawl now has darker skin rather than a darker helmet, he has a purple alt, and his blue color from Brawl now has blonde hair to further reference Louie.

Olimar's alternate costumes in PM.
OlimarHeadSSBB.png OlimarHeadWhiteSSBB.png OlimarHeadRedSSBB.png OlimarHeadBlackPM.png OlimarHeadGreenSSBB.png OlimarHeadBlueSSBB.png OlimarHeadYellowPM.png OlimarHeadPurplePM.png



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