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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week (or possibly less often, if the wiki's status is Yellow or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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Round 241: Lucina vs. Roy[edit]

Lucina SSB4.png

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Roy SSB4.png
Throw-in bonus characters cloned from Marth, but with a very different goal: one unleashes t3h ph1r3 with hilt sweetspots, while the other doesn't care for precision and prefers simplicity. Which one comes out on top?

Votes for Lucina[edit]

  1. Galeforce is all you need. Miles (talk) 23:26, 19 May 2017 (EDT)
  2. Meh PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 09:57, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
  3. This is a no-brainer for me... MetaKingSignature1.png20MK_MetaKing #20MKMetaKingSignature2.png 21:44, 21 May 2017 (EDT)
  4. Not a single question in my entire life has been easier to answer. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 04:25, 23 May 2017 (EDT)
  5. This is too easy for me. Lucina Rocks!!!!! -Mapword
  6. I always found that the extra strain of having to be at close range for Roy was a major downside. It basically gives him the worst range for any sword fighter. Also Lucina is a waifu. Alex Parpotta (talk) 17:10, 24 May 2017 (EDT)

Votes for Roy[edit]

  1. Roy is less of a clone than Lucina is. Searingjet (talk) 22:20, 19 May 2017 (EDT)
  2. ROY'S OUR BOY AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 23:02, 19 May 2017 (EDT)
  3. There are many good reasons to vote for Roy over Lucina.
    1. He's less of a clone, with mechanics and aesthetics that separate him further from Marth than Lucina.
    2. GBA Fire Emblem > Modern Fire Emblem.
    3. He should have been on the roster from the start, as one of the three clones. This would have opened up DLC development time for Wolf.
    4. He's a fan favorite (our boy), he helped introduce Fire Emblem to international audiences alongside Marth, making him imo the second-most important Fire Emblem character with only Ike challenging that claim, and of course, Roy has t3h ph1r3. John John3637881 Signature.png HUAH! 23:06, 19 May 2017 (EDT)
  4. *insert generic and overused comment about Roy being my boy here* Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 23:45, 19 May 2017 (EDT)
  5. I hate sounding like bias, but you already know my answer. Also where's Ragnarok when you need him? lol --BeepYouSignature.png Beep (talk) 00:17, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
  6. Roy fits a niche that I don't see many other characters cover: he is a good transition character between swordfighters and brawlers. Roy has the tools of a spacing character, but he doesn't want to space for the entire game unlike Marth and Lucina. He wants to safely close in and land a grab, akin to most brawlers in this game, and his combined combo and tech chase game are some of the best a Smash 4 swordfighter could ask for. b2jammer (talk) 10:10, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
  7. Roy 4ever! Even better than Marth!Rimigafob (talk) 11:47, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
  8. Sure, they're both clones of Marth, but Roy is our boy. (Roy also doesn't have blue hair like Marth) Awesomelink234 Getting down to editing~ 12:06, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
  9. Lucina is just Marth without the thing that makes Marth interesting. Zyrac sig.png Zyrac(talkcontribs) 12:21, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
  10. Another no-brainer in my opinion. Better if it had been Ike vs. Roy. 034.png DracoRexKing, Creator of the Land 13:00, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
  11. Roy's our boy! He is a great Fire Emblem combatant in Melee and I like him! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 13:22, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
  12. Roy is much more different than Marth, so I prefer him over Lucina. Also he keeps the original netural B in Smash 4, so that's a plus. --Vinc420 (talk) 00:20, 21 May 2017 (EDT)
  13. Because of the fire and also because FE Heroes makes him look cooler, plus introduced me to a ton of FE characters because of FE Heroes, so yeah. PikachuMS.pngPika Just got Pokemon Alpha Sapphire! 19:14, 21 May 2017 (EDT)
  14. Okay, I know that some people, including Fire Emblem fans themselves, call Roy a little shit but he, along with Marth of course, helped popularized the series to North America and I don't see why hating fans don't respect that. MHStarCraft Mega Man X SNES sprite.png 19:16, 21 May 2017 (EDT)
  15. Roy's hilt sweetspot mechanic is a quality unique to him as a character. Lucina's sword is functionally identical to all of the other swords in the SSB series. Combos are possible with both characters, but Roy's weapon stands out from the rest. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 19:31, 23 May 2017 (EDT)


Tough choice...

Round 240: Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS vs. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U[edit]


6 to 17
Sure they have the same fundamental gameplay and cast of characters, but completely different stages and modes, so we can't say this will surely turn out a tie.

Votes for SSB4-3[edit]

  1. Funner stages, Has Smash Run and not a trashy Mario Party mode, on the go...could go on. Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 12:22, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
  2. Beyond being Smash on-the-go, it has overall better stages. My favorite exclusive stages are Unova Pokémon League and Magicant. Dream Land and Rainbow Road provide good Omega stages as well. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 13:43, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
  3. Well I only own this version so I guess this gets an automatic vote? oh and Smash Run is pretty cool. BSTIK (talk) 12:43, 7 May 2017 (EDT)
  4. SSBWU neglects the N64/Gamecube Mario games for no reason. At least SSB3DS is bound by constraints. RickTommy 07:42, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
  5. Less chaotic stages, Smash Run is better executed than Smash Tour, Classic Mode is better, Customs feel more worthwhile to use simply due to the portable nature of the game. b2jammer (talk) 19:57, 9 May 2017 (EDT)


  1. I mean, Smash on the go? Best thing since sliced bread honestly. Take it anywhere, and you're guaranteed to have a good time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vacmox (talkcontribs) 11:14, 16 May 2017 (EDT)
  2. Smash Run is great. Elliot (EDT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:10, 16 May 2017 (EDT)

Votes for SSB4-U[edit]

  1. Obvious reason is obvious. Serpent SKSig.png King 11:49, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
  2. lol imagine if this had been Melee vs SSB4. Either way, yeah, Wii U easily gets my vote. Smoother graphics, better controllers (although I don't really mind the 3DS's controls), easier to play with friends, 8-Player Smash and, of course, it's the version that's played at tournaments. 3DS might have some better game modes (Classic, Smash Run), but I don't think that makes up for the much better multiplayer Wii U offers.034.png DracoRexKing, Creator of the Land 12:33, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
  3. Better stages and has event mode. Also, the 3DS version is the reason the Ice Climbers were cut. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is made in America 12:52, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
  4. I enjoy both versions, but SSB4-U gets my vote because I'm more comfortable playing this version. Smash Master 14:56, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
  5. Why is the Wii U version even compared to the 3DS version at all when the Wii U version is clearly better? MetaKingSignature1.png20MK_MetaKing #20MKMetaKingSignature2.png 19:37, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
  6. While the playing Smash to-go concept on the 3DS version isn't bad or anything, it wasn't going to be played much further once the Wii U version released, which more or less served as the real deal. MHStarCraft Mega Man X SNES sprite.png 21:50, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
  7. Better graphics and stages IMO. Awesomelink234 Getting down to editing~ 12:38, 7 May 2017 (EDT)
  8. I like it better, simple as that PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 12:56, 7 May 2017 (EDT)
  9. Both versions are great but my best choice is the Wii U version! More stages, more songs, more fighters, HD graphics! My personal favorite voice actors in the Wii U version are Charles Martinet (Mario, Luigi, Wario, Waluigi, Dr. Mario), Kazumi Totaka (Yoshi), and the announcer of the game itself, Xander Mobus! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 13:51, 7 May 2017 (EDT)
  10. The 3DS version has better single player and stages, but aside from that the Wii U version outclasses it in almost every other way. It's always the version of the game I'll choose to play if I have the choice, though by no means is the 3DS version bad either. RagnarokSignature.png Ragnarok320, The Toa of Fire (talk) 12:23, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
  11. 8-player Smash is great at parties. ChuckNorris24.png  17:21, 12 May 2017 (EDT)
  12. The Wii U version is just superior in every way. While I do like the 3D visuals in the 3DS version, you can't play it with a GameCube controller, which is the smoothest controller in Smash. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 02:25, 13 May 2017 (EDT)
  13. SSB4 for Wii U follows the history of the series, in it that each Super Smash Bros. game has been designed for the lead Nintendo home console at the time of its release. For 3DS diverts from this system, a path that I do not find appealing. Moreover, the Wii U version simply has more to offer, due to the fact that the Wii U on the most basic level can handle it. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 21:30, 13 May 2017 (EDT)
  14. Way better than 3DS --Myth Myth Kirby.png 08:40, 15 May 2017 (EDT)
  15. While Smash Run is significantly better than Smash Tour and 3DS' stages are better, Wii U clearly does everything else better. Aqua Shield (talk) AquaShield.png 01:27, 16 May 2017 (EDT)
  16. Gameplay and graphics are much smoother. 8-Player Smash is a really fun mode. Classic Mode is much better in this version. I honestly think Smash Run and Smash Tour are equally bad, so the only thing that could possibly get me to vote for the 3DS version is the better stages--and that's just not enough in his case. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 23:49, 16 May 2017 (EDT)


  1. The only game I have —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 06:56, 7 May 2017 (EDT)
  2. The winner's gonna be the Wii U version!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:45, May 16, 2017


I think the Wii U version is awesome in my opinion and I couldn't agree more! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 00:10, 13 May 2017 (EDT)

Yes it's intentional that this round is lasting an extra week: last round lasted 3, so this can be 2 to "wind up" to 1 after that. This comment apparently didn't stick last time I made it. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Superlative 06:45, 15 May 2017 (EDT)


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