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Round 239: Sonic vs. Mega Man vs. Pac-Man[edit]

Sonic SSB4.png
Mega Man SSB4.png
Pac-Man SSB4.png

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Two blue, one yellow. Two round, one spiky. Two organic, one robotic. Which of these three third-parties gets the nod?

Votes for Sonic[edit]

  1. Sonic is my choice! From his debut in 1991 for the Genesis to competing in the Olympics with Mario, he can do anything to help his friends and defeat Eggman! Sonic is his name, speed is his game! He is also Sega's mascot, too! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 11:05, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  2. Sonic cuz spin dash :D 16:17, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  3. Sonic is quite literally my favorite video game character. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Springing Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 17:40, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  4. One of my favorite video game characters of all time, plus I play him. Yeah, this is a no contest. RagnarokSignature.png Ragnarok320, The Toa of Fire (talk) 18:34, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  5. This decision was too easy, a piece of cake. One of these three characters is my main. If you haven't worked out which one, you're too slow. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 01:36, 16 April 2017 (EDT)
  6. Definitely my favorite video game franchise with Zelda not too far behind. Sonic Mania can't come soon enough! Aqua Shield (talk) AquaShield.png 13:51, 17 April 2017 (EDT)
  7. "Sonic's the name, speed's my game!" Sonic rocks! He's my second favorite video game character, or maybe even tied with Kirby as my first! Not to mention he's one of my mains. Smash Master 11:37, 18 April 2017 (EDT)
  8. They don't call him The Blue Blur for nothing. Awesomelink234 Getting down to editing~ 17:52, 19 April 2017 (EDT)

Votes for Mega Man[edit]

  1. Of course I'm going to have to give it up for the blue bomber. This year does mark as his 30th anniversary as well. MHStarCraft Mega Man X SNES sprite.png 12:17, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  2. Megaman is cooler. CDHELPS (talk) 12:25, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  3. Scr7 (talk) 12:38, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  4. Frickin ScAtt one of my fave players PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 13:52, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  5. THE SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT Nymbaresigicon.png Nymbare and his talk 18:49, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  6. Mega Man has the funner gameplay style, is a robot, and hasn't made any awful games lately. 19:11, 17 April 2017 (EDT)
  7. Definitely one of my favorite platforming series. Challenging games have always been my cup of tea, and Mega Man appeals a lot to me with so much in his kit, especially the way everything is represented in Smash. Even putting this aside, Mega Man is my favorite character to play and watch (I heavily dislike Sonic's campy playstyle, and I don't see great Pac-Man players too often) out of these three. 034.png DracoRexKing, Creator of the Land 11:54, 18 April 2017 (EDT)
  8. Classic Mega Man > Modern Sonic, but Classic Sonic trumps both for me. Then again, which Sonic is depicted above? pac's okay I guess BaconMasterBaconMasterSig.png 21:14, 22 April 2017 (EDT)
  9. No sanic sped and a grab that doesn't need to be fixed is a win in my book 02:39, 23 April 2017 (EDT)
  10. Games are the funnest out of the 3Destructodon (talk) 20:52, 24 April 2017 (EDT)

Votes for Pac-Man[edit]

  1. So, #239 finally came, huh? Anyway, I love all 3 of these characters, but PAC-MAN is probably the best to me because of his Bonus Fruit, Pac-Jump and Fire Hydrant. Especially his Bonus Fruit - I'm a fan of the Bell! Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 11:00, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  2. The first video game I ever played was Pac-Man: Adventures in Time, and I had a lot of fun playing the Pac-Man World series back in the day, so this is a big nostalgia vote. While I dislike the way Pac-Man is played in Smash, he's still one of my favorite video game characters and definitely my favorite third-party character in Smash 4. I've never really touched a Sonic or Mega-Man game in my life, so there's that too. John John3637881 Signature.png HUAH! 12:58, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  3. 🍒🍓🍊🍎🍈👾🔔🔑 Miles (talk) 15:49, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  4. Sonic sux, I don't really know anything about Mega Man, and Pac-Man was a big part of my childhood so... Serpent SKSig.png King 18:42, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  5. If we were looking at only classic Sonic, he'd get my vote, but that's not the case. Pac-Man's games, meanwhile, are more significant to the gaming industry and more enjoyable than Mega Man's games IMO. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 19:53, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
  6. One vote for the yellow fellow ZatannaCobblepot (talk) 02:15, 17 April 2017 (EDT)
  7. Pac-Man reminds me of slot machines and this vote will make it triple 7s KoreanPJs (talk) 16:28, 18 April 2017 (EDT)


We'll see if I can return to weekly updates with this now that my schedule allows for it. Except for this first round, which'll be 2 weeks to get people back into it. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Emissary 10:48, 15 April 2017 (EDT)

Round 238: Tingle vs. Isabelle[edit]


16.5 to 50
These two Assist Trophies like to throw useful items into the battle. Which is seen as more helpful?

Votes for Tingle[edit]

  1. Tingle changes the outcome of a match to a much more impactful extent than does Isabelle. In the world of Super Smash Bros., it's kill or be killed. A meager fruit from Isabelle will not harm your opponent; a Hammer or Golden Hammer from Tingle might just provide that bone-breaking force necessary to shatter your opponents' spirits, not to mention their skulls. The question that binds this Smash Arena round is really this: which do you value more, gaining health for yourself or making others lose health? I, personally, believe that you can't win if you don't make others lose. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 00:34, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  2. Tingle Tingle Kallopa(Psychninja14 (talk) 01:24, 6 December 2015 (EST))
  3. -- 16:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  4. Isabelle throws fruit. That's all. Tingle can give you Hammers, Superspicy Curry, or Banana Peels, zoom the camera in on one player, or fly away in a balloon. And, disregarding the great amount of variety here, who wants a dog that JINGLES LIKE MONEY? That's either extremely creepy or extremely rude, neither of which are that great in my mind. AmoongussForLife (talk) 19:27, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  5. Most people hate Tingle, but I've always found him kinda funny. #TingleForSSB5 ChuckNorris24.png  17:12, 22 December 2015 (EST)
  6. Isabelle is lame. She never did anything for you asides sit behind a counter. Tingle, on the other hand, sells you maps and deciphers them for you. That's... pretty useful, actually.--BaconMaster331 (talk) 14:10, 31 December 2015 (EST)
  7. When it comes to assist trophies, I like the element of unpredictability. FirstaLasto 04:56, 21 January 2016 (EST)
  8. If you're going to have assist trophies at all, it's not because you're looking for something predictable, or sane, or any of that. It's because you're looking for something like Tingle. 20:36, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
  9. Tingle is cool. 19:53, 14 March 2016 (EDT)
  10. There is a good chance that Tingle will be useless if summoned. But at the same time, he can be one of the most useful assist trophies in the entire game. Getting 3 golden hammers is no joke. RNG is what items are in the first place. RobSir RobSir-sig.jpg zx 21:54, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
  11. Tingle normally odes not do much. However, when Tingle does do something, it is quite powerful and makes a match much more chaotic. Isabelle, meanwhile, is useful more often, but only throws food, which is much less chaotic. I like chaos. EndlesslyVoided0 (talk) 22:12, 28 April 2016 (EDT)
  12. Isabelle has two different amiibo, several amiibo cards and a Nendoroid, Tingle has none of these things. He needs my support. He's also part of my all-time favourite stage, Great Bay. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 13:36, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
  13. Isabelle just gives you food to heal you and anyone can pick it up by just touching it. Tingle is more a chance guy and with the Golden Hammers he can give you a free stock or KO. DinoBro (talk) 04:27, 6 September 2016 (EDT)
  14. 353.png Mesuxelf 13:39, 3 February 2017 (EST)
  15. Though Isabelle is helpful (and cute), Tingle is more fun and interesting. MasterTabuu (talk) 08:49, 25 March 2017 (EDT)


  1. Tingle has just the best personality out of any Zelda character, and he's just awesome. Tingle, Tingle, Kuloo-Limpah! (FlawedAI) —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlawedAI (talkcontribs) 07:08, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  2. I just love that while Isabelle only has 1 use (which is helpful) but Tingle has 4 uses in which 3 are helpful: he can zoom the cam in on a player so the others won't see a thing, he can summon banana peels that leaves other constantly tripping(so they can't attack) and he can summon hammers to squash the opponents! Tingle Tingle Koloo Limpa! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 02:56, 13 January 2016 (EST)
  3. Tingle actually does stuff. All Isabelle does is throw fruit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 11:10, 25 April 2016

Votes for Isabelle[edit]

  1. She gets my vote for being adorable and helpful. Berrenta (talk) 00:30, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  2. She actually heals the player; unlike Tingle who makes you lose by spawning hammers which the opponents would most likely get. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 00:59, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  3. Isabelle is cute, and very useful when at high percentage. INoMedssig.png INoMed (Talk • Contribs) 05:33, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  4. I see it as adorable vs. creepy, helpful vs. harmful. Yes, Tingle can actually damage your opponents, but some of his effects may hinder you too. Isabelle is basically always helping the summoner. And she's not creepy. (At least, not Tingle-level creepy.) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 07:11, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  5. gets my vote because when i get tingle he never does anything helpful to me Nintendofan1653 (talk) 07:50, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  6. Tingle isn't always exactly helpful, so... Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 10:17, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  7. At least Isabelle is helpful EVERY time you summon her. Also, in Wind Waker, I found Tingle to be as obnoxious as Kiddy Kong. --MeatBall104 MB104Pic2.jpg 11:33, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  8. I don't think I have experienced Isabelle as an assist trophy yet because I don't play with items but Tingle isn't helped by the fact that he isn't so well received by the western society (if any of you find the following link offensive, you can remove it) so I guess Isabelle gets my vote. Dots (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The Sleepy 14:07, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  9. Because she actually helps me on the field. 14:54, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  10. Is actually helpful and isn't creepy 20:06, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  11. There are many, many reasons why I vote Isabelle over Tingle. For starters, Isabelle's cute, Tingle is ugly and gives you that 'kill it with fire' reaction. Another thing, Isabelle's helpful, both in Smash and in Animal Crossing. All Tingle was ever good for was deciphering maps, but he always charges an insane amount of Rupees for his services. Also, he's enslaved his brothers, as seen in Wind Waker. Need I say more? Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 20:43, 6 December 2015 (EST)
  12. Isabelle actually helps you in Animal Crossing. Tingle's just kinda...there... AidanzapunkChristmasSig.pngAidan, the Jolly Space WarriorAidanzapunkChristmasSig2.png 09:59, 7 December 2015 (EST)
  13. Two words: NOT. CREEPY! Penro (Talk)16:30, 8 December 2015 (EST)
  14. Isabelle is my choice! She helps fighters and made her racing debut in Mario Kart 8. That is why I love this character! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 23:07, 8 December 2015 (EST)
  15. Waluigi, Togepi, Isabelle - Tingle's Smash Arena foes get progressively more adorable ZatannaCobblepot (talk) 01:03, 10 December 2015 (EST)
  16. Simply because she's adorable and 100% helpful, unlike Mr. Oh-god-please-no. It's not like this has already been mentioned 10 times... Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 12:37, 10 December 2015 (EST)
  17. C u t e . Nymbare and his talk 09:11, 11 December 2015 (EST)
  18. Tingle's ugly. 08:14, 13 December 2015 (EST)
  19. You know what? I think I like dogs more since I have recently discovered the meme doge. PikachuMS.png Pika, Chilly! 15:39, 22 December 2015 (EST)
  20. Per everyone. Ganonmew, The Festive Evil Clone 22:20, 26 December 2015 (EST)
  21. Adorable. Is an animal. Is not creepy and ugly. Throws at you helpful items 100% of the time. And demonstrates emotion whenever who summoned it does an action. --BeepYouSignature.png Happy Holidays from BeepYou :] 22:27, 26 December 2015 (EST)
  22. She's cute,dosen't leave the battle using balloons and her game wasn't banned in North America 03:16, 3 January 2016 (EST)
  23. reasons. Elitemagikarp (talk) 08:24, 8 January 2016 (EST)
  24. I don't like Tingle very much. He's like the Jar Jar Binks of the Zelda universe. --Fubaka (talk) 18:07, 19 Jan 2016 (EST)
  25. She is a very very helpful assist trophy in Super Smash Bros. 4! The amazing owen (talk) 15:50, 3 February 2016 (EST)
  26. She is very useful in smash bros healing you mid battle and very helpful (and one of my favourite characters) in animal crossing new leaf, I find tingle is never useful in any game I have played(except for deciphering maps in wind Waker) and I don't like the character. That is why I am voting for Isabelle. Piplup42Lol (talk) 15:26, 30 January 2016 (EST)
  27. Fruit KirbysCrazyAppetite (talk) 18:20, 30 January 2016 (EST)
  28. I want to hug this dog Ryxis (talk) 14:36, 16 February 2016 (EST)
  29. I think Tingle's uses are random and nearly each one has a flaw. Isabell throw fruit at you and you only need to touch it, so by running away you can get 50% restored.SwagmanSig1.png Swagman, the Green Swordsman SwagmanSig2.png 22:29, 27 February 2016 (EST)
  30. I don't see what you Tingle fans like about him. He's a creepy man in his 30s that wears a green skin-tight suit because he thinks he's a fairy. In Majora's Mask he's a disappointment to his father and in Wind Waker he's a freaking slave owner. I'll go with the adorable dog assistant. Aqua Shield (talk) AquaShield.png 13:17, 4 March 2016 (EST)
  31. Aside from Tingle's overall creepiness, Isabelle's a dog. She automatically gets my vote.Mega Togekiss' 17:39, 16 March 2016 (EST)
  32. Dawwww She's just too cute that is all Redja12 (talk) 20:53, 2 April 2016 (EDT)
  33. Isabelle is so cute and she is useful comparared to Tingle Anto99 13:44, 13 April 2016 (EST)
  34. Not that I'm a fan of her, but I like how she gives me fruit Mario Kart 7 Rules (talk) 14:21, 7 May 2016 (EDT)
  35. Isabelle is my favorite character from Animal Crossing: New Leaf, but I like that she heals you in Smash 4! AlbumArt-Dixie.png TabuuandMasterCore 21:31, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
  36. While Tingle definitely has the Dank Meme status, I'm personally choosing Isabelle for this one. Not only is she completely adorable, she's really helpful too! Isabelle FTW!Maineroadfan (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2016 (EDT)
  37. Isabelle is a cute dog, and Tingle just looks like an ugly Wiggles reject. Isabelle heals whoever uses the assist trophy. And Isabelle is getting WAAAY more votes! stop torturing Valehd the smashbro pro!(explain the torture to me, you two!) 15:53, 31 May 2016 (EDT)
  38. Isabelle is much cuter and is generally more consistent and helpful from my experience. Tahu Mata, The Toa of Fire RoyHeadSSB4-U.png (talk) 16:12, 1 June 2016 (EST)
  39. Isabelle heals while tingle dances.... disturbingly--DoctorCalamari (talk) 15:37, 16 June 2016 (EDT)
  40. I just dislike tingleDestructodon (talk) 21:55, 2 September 2016 (EDT)
  41. Isabelle is just more adorable lol :P MegaSuperab (talk) 20:26, 8 September 2016 (EDT)
  42. Isabelle is simply the best, heals you, and simply beats Tingle in every way. -- 19:01, 3 October 2016 (EDT)
  43. Isabelle keeps on tossing food to heal you non-stop! Perfect if you have a high damage level! Drybones345(Smash) (talk) 13:33, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
  44. Although Tingle is very comedic, Isabelle is always a pleasure to see knowing you will always be getting her support rather than a random chance of taking or losing a stock. Also she is one of my favorite characters! Porygon24 (talk) 10:30, 27 October 2016 (PST)
  45. Happy birthday to this Smash Arena fight! Also, I vote Isabelle because meh. infernape612 08:41, 6 December 2016 (EST)
  46. Not Tingle. Takava (talk) 14:06, 1 March 2017 (EST)
  47. I'm not exactly a fan of either, but I hate Tingle more. Awesomelink234 Getting down to editing~ 10:52, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
  48. I never liked Tingle and Isabelle is more adoribel47.33.188.125 00:26, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
  49. Because why would you ever want to be associated with tingle BSTIK (talk) 04:35, 15 April 2017 (EDT)


  1. ADORABLE. Helps 100% of the time in-game. The opposition is downright creepy.-Green Machine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Machine (talkcontribs) 09:18, 27 December 2015 (EST)
  2. Tingle just screws everything up, UNLESS you're lucky enough for the random effect to be banana peels. Spicy curry slows down the pace of a match, hammers gives the opponent the opportunity to either decimate you with a hammer or juggle you to death if you get one in an unlucky situation, and screen zoom... Is just annoying. Isabelle on the other hand helps the player by supplying him free healing food he doesn't even need to press a to eat. obvious choice is obvious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 19:54, March 8, 2017 (EST)


HOPY SHIT ANOTHER SMASH ARENA! 08:14, 13 December 2015 (EST)

Am I allowed to switch my vote? PikachuMS.png Pika, Chilly! 19:55, 15 December 2015 (EST)

yes pikaplayer just cross your vote out. Nintendofan1653 (talk) 18:59, 18 December 2015 (EST)
Thanks a lot! :) PikachuMS.png Pika, Chilly! 15:52, 23 December 2015 (EST)
is smash arena still going toomai? if not i can take over for you! PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the Pumpkin Pie 20:17, 10 March 2016 (EST)

It's time I finally voted. Except I don't like either character, so I won't vote. xD John John3637881 Signature.png PK SMAAAASH!! 17:30, 30 April 2016 (EDT)

Can I take out my IP in the vote and replace it with my username? Penro (Talk) 17:33, 30 April 2016 (EDT)
Of course. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 18:00, 30 April 2016 (EDT)

This is getting old, have another round soon? AlbumArt-Dixie.png TabuuandMasterCore 10:49, 21 May 2016 (EDT)

Considering how often Toomai is on, probably not. Plus, the main space is our focus right now. PenroImage.pngPenro 11:00, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
It's been a LONG time since we had this round up and I think it's possible that this round might end somewhere in August. The amazing owen (talk) 09:10, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
insert unfunny off topic joke here (Seriously I can't think of anything) MegaSuperab (talk) 20:28, 8 September 2016 (EDT)
Complaining and unnecessary comments won't help. Dots (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The Jiggly 23:07, 8 September 2016 (EDT)
Although Toomai IS being a lazy ass. If you're not going to do the job yourself, don't stop others from doing it! Just give the responsibility to someone else! 20:17, 18 January 2017 (EST)

Shout out to having the same smash arena for over a year lol 353.png Mesuxelf 13:40, 3 February 2017 (EST) Wow. I've been gone for 2 months and the Smash Arena still hasn't changed. Wut. The amazing owen (Talk) (Contribs) 15:05, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

Is Smash Arena just not a thing anymore? Or did Toomai just forget about it? It's been over a year and still no round 239. Awesomelink234 Getting down to editing~ 10:50, 1 April 2017 (EDT)


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