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Round 66: Kat & Ana vs. Latias & Latios[edit]

Latias & Latios

5.5 to 21.5
A pair of a pair of assisters, both sweeping across the screen in a cross pattern, each never appearing without their twin. Is it the Pokémon or the swordsgirls that take this battle?

Votes for Kat & Ana[edit]

  1. No one voted for them so far, so yea. Also, warioware is awsome :D. Vincent Tran Blorbs?Kirby-1.png 03:41, 25 December 2010 (EST)
  2. These ninjas are awesome in the games. The pokemon is a bit overrated. Plus, K&T strikes with far more accuracy than the double Ls. T.testLPThe Communicator|The...WhateverGanondorfHeadSSBU.pngGanondorf da bess! 08:33, 25 December 2010 (EST)
  3. Kat and Ana are more interesting when it comes down to it. A pair of young ninja girls clad in colorful attire? Heck yes! Latias and Latios look like your average pokemon, and they just make those annoying wails that I can't stand! Clearly my vote goes to the girls.Mowrt620 (talk)Mowrt620
  4. This vote is purely based on the pun in their names.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 03:36, 28 December 2010 (EST)
  5. These girls are so cute and colorful, I must vote for them. Lili Rochefort 1965 (talk) 15:48, 30 December 2010 (EST)

Half Votes[edit]

  1. In the Warioware series Kat and Ana's microgames are my favorite. Plus they have SWORDS!!!!!!! Katana!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:30, 24 December 2010 (EST)

Votes for Latias & Latios[edit]

  1. Pokémon have to win. In addition, I always found these 2 more useful.MegaTron1XD:p 18:56, 24 December 2010 (EST)
  2. They are more accurate and powerful. Valsion 01:27, 25 December 2010 (EST)
  3. Not only are these guys more powerful than Kat and Ana, they also suck their opponents into their attack making it harder to dodge them. 20:24, 24 December 2010 (EST)
  4. Man, ^ stole my reason.-Ivy73002MS.png 20:31, 24 December 2010 (EST)
  5. Of course I pick them because their very powerful and fast. ..... (talk) 20:51, 24 December 2010 (EST)
  6. There's a reason why they call them "legendary Pokemon"! BrawlingbrianFalcoHeadSSBU.png LANDMASTER! 21:48, 24 December 2010 (EST)
  7. Not a big WarioWare fan. Also, Hoenn Pokemon rock. havoC-- 23:33, 24 December 2010 (EST)
  8. kat n ana is easier to dodge!! 00:27, 25 December 2010 (EST)
  9. Pokemon just rocks. --UilMash (talk) 02:59, 25 December 2010 (EST)
  10. Come on Latias and Latios. On a side note, it is good to see another battle that I suggested. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:27, 25 December 2010 (EST)
  11. I don´t like Wario very much and Latias and Latios are way better. Zero (talk) 04:35, 25 December 2010 (EST)
  12. Their more accurate and their attack has a wind effect in it.Sonicsmasher777 (talk) 22:46, 25 December 2010 (EST)
  13. Dragons > ninjas Koopa1997 (talk) 08:26, 26 December 2010 (EST)
  14. Same reasons as everyone else 14:20, 26 December 2010 (EST)
  15. Who would win in a fight? 2 Dragons or @ kids? I think the 2 Dragons! Mesuxelf MetaKnightHeadSSBU.png (talk) 12:51, 27 December 2010 (EST)
  16. I don't like the Wario series very much. Latias and Latios are harder to dodge. Silent Viper (talk) 14:18, 27 December 2010 (EST)
  17. The legendary Hoennese dragon twins rule!--Altaria (talk) 18:34, 28 December 2010 (EST)
  18. Latias and Latios because they are Legendary Pokemon and Kat and Anna are just little kids.~User:BigBlue321
  19. Latias/os is better then the KatAna sisters! Lucasthefourth (talk) 20:03, 29 December 2010 (EST)
  20. When you factor in how common Lati@s is, they're arguably the most useful pokemon/assist trophy in Brawl. They're also imo, the most difficult pokemon to avoid damage from, and when I play with items, they KO me (and others) commonly. Plus, Lati@s are among my favorite gen. 3 pokemon. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 04:44, 1 January 2011 (EST)

Half Votes[edit]

  1. Pokemon! Latias and latios are WAY better then kat and ana, and I have Latias in my heartgold pokemon version...—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 11:01, December 24, 2010
  2. Pokemon!!! Sorry, the only reason I'm voting this time is because I like Pokemon. Dr. PikaLinkSmash (talk) 06:55, 25 December 2010 (EST)
  3. lati@s are way better because of the vaccum and speed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktnt (talkcontribs) 14:33, December 26, 2010


Looks like another one-sided vote.Sonicsmasher777 (talk) 22:47, 25 December 2010 (EST)

That's probably because Pokemon is much more popular than WarioWare. Just speculating. BrawlingbrianFalcoHeadSSBU.png LANDMASTER! 08:52, 26 December 2010 (EST)

This is a hard decision to me... I like the Latias Latios, but I like WarioWare more and I don't know much about Pokemons! Lucasthefourth (talk) 20:08, 29 December 2010 (EST)

Round 67: Ridley vs. Rayquaza[edit]


13 to 20
Two pretty large dragon-shaped creatures are this round's subjects. While one is considered "legendary" and can make the weather shut up, the other is apparently immune to death and will keep on your tail even when the planet blows up. Which of these two will come out on top?

Votes for Ridley[edit]

  1. I´m sorry but my favorite games are Metroid and I know for personal experience how badass he is in the Metroid games (altough in SSBB is much more weak). Zero (talk) 11:08, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  2. I'll have to say, this was one of the hardest votes I've ever experianced. I love Pokemon and Rayquaza, but rayquaza, the 5th strongest pokemon out of over 600, got defeated by a monkey. I think that Ridley is epic, well, he came back to life! Mesuxelf MetaKnightHeadSSBU.png (talk) 13:09, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  3. I am sick and tired of Pokemon dominating everything in the Smash ArenaGig (talk) 16:46, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  4. I love pokemon but I had a friend who had a lv. 100 Rayq. and I beat it every time. Plus it is so hard to beat ridley in all of his games.Sonicsmasher777 (talk) 23:42, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  5. Ridley is a very unique villain among video games. Unlike nearly every other villain, Ridley has a deep, personal conflict with Samus that is not related at all to "stopping his plans" or "interfering with his orders". As a result, he keeps being resurected and reborn, each time with the same malice he feels towards Samus. This is relfected in SSE. Rayquaza simply does not have this kind of background, and thus is a much less developed character (if having any developement at all, considerering its series). Mr. Anon (talk) 00:05, 2 January 2011 (EST)
  6. I just enjoy destroying Ridley more than Rayquaza, that's why I vote for Ridley. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 15:54, 2 January 2011 (EST)
  7. Today I was playing Metroid: Other M and I had to fight Ridley. NOT EASY. I got killed six times! Ridley is clearly better then some other dragon thing that could easily be killed with a solid Ice type attack. 22:52, 2 January 2011 (EST)
  8. Three reasons: First, because I've just been playing Metroid: Other M, and I'm in a Samus mood, Secondly, in SSE, you're forced to vs Rayquaza with Diddy or Fox, which are both easily among my worst characters, and lastly, the insane amount of times that Ridley tries to come back to kill you (Ridley in about 5 metroid games, Meta Ridley in Metroid Prime, and Omega Ridley in Metroid Prime 3). Also, he's purple, and purple is my favourite colour. And I never really liked the Gen III pokemon, amd Dragon/Flying is an overused type combination anyway. And Rayquaza's ability is kinda useless. Just sayin'. Fuddlebob (talk) 08:09, 3 January 2011 (EST)
  9. Pokemon have been winning too many battles recently, so I choose Ridley to give the non-Pokemon series a chance. -- 02:18, 4 January 2011 (EST)
  10. Ridley is better. 11:02, 5 January 2011 (EST)
  11. Ridley has been a thorn in Samus' side for every Metroid game, even though he has been killed in ever game, not to mention Ridley is smart and Rayquaza is just an animal.--JeKartaN1 (talk) 18:50, 5 January 2011 (EST)

Half votes[edit]

  1. I don't want Pokemon to win again, so, Ridley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 19:04, 4 January 2011 (EST).
  2. Well my fav is the metroid games and pokemon is getting a little borning. So I well go with Ridley—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 3:50 This comment was moved back to half-votes after earlier having been moved to full votes from half-votes.
  3. Ridley all the way hes got two forms and is the best boss—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 5:39, January 4, 2011
  4. ridley is an awesome boss in metroid and is drastically reduced in power in ssbb however u must remember that ridley is a almost impossible to beat boss from metroid(which my freind cant get past lvl 1) ridley should be the no.2 greatest boss in ssbb (next to tabuu)however weirdly he isnt —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 07:13, 6 January 2011 (EST)

Votes for Rayquaza[edit]

  1. Dragon vs. Dragon. Both can fly. Rayquaza vs. Ridley. Meta Ridley would win, but Ridley loses to Rayquaza. And I'm into Pokemon more. PKFire MetaKnight! MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png
  2. I just like Pokemon more.MegaTron1XD:p 10:18, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  3. I play Pokemon, and, from what I've seen, Rayquaza is extremely strong. Besides, I barely even know Metroid. BrawlingbrianFalcoHeadSSBU.png LANDMASTER! 10:22, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  4. Pokemon FTW. Plain and simple.-Ivy73002MS.png 10:30, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  5. Pokemon is in my Top 5 video game series list and Ryquaza is in my Top 5 Legendary Pokemon List. Obvious answer. Zeldasmash (talk) 10:42, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  6. Besides being among my favorite pokemon, he's one of my favorite bosses to fight, and he's more difficult imo than Ridley is. His extreme resistances and more difficult to dodge attacks provide a greater challenge than Ridley's more powerful attacks. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 10:45, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  7. Second fight I suggested in a row! Go Rayquaza! ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:46, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  8. Batteling Rayquaza was more interisting and thrilling. It's also a POKEMON a LEGENDARY one also.Zeegamer (talk) 13:56, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  9. Hoenn Pokemon rock. havoC-- 15:12, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  10. I've never found a boss that's simple to defeat in adventure mode than Rayquaza. Lili Rochefort 1965 (talk) 16:57, 1 January 2011 (EST)
  11. Ridley i easier to defeat, anytime i fight Rayquaza, i always at least get damaged, heheh Lucasthefourth -.- (talk) 00:57, 2 January 2011 (EST)
  12. It's 'cause Rayquaza is so twisty and awesome.... ;3 RoZo (talk) 12:05, 2 January 2011 (EST)
  13. I find Rayquaza to be extremely powerful, both in SSBB and in the Pokemon games. Ridley on the other hand I don't know enough about. 22:09, 2 January 2011 (EST)
  14. Rayquaza is one of my main uber Pokemon, and it's just very awesome. --UilMash (talk) 09:16, 3 January 2011 (EST)
  15. Rayquaza wins. End. movie138music | chat 12:55, 3 January 2011 (EST)
  16. Ray-Qu-A-ZA! dum dum dum dum dum! 08:06, 4 January 2011 (EST)
  17. Maybe i would like legendary??? Rayquaza is stronger because of this and owns. ..... (talk) 18:26, 4 January 2011 (EST)
  18. Go Rayquaza!!! Dr. PikaLinkSmash (talk) 18:18, 5 January 2011 (EST)

Half votes[edit]

  1. Is it a bird? An airplane? No! It's Rayquaza! and he gonna smash us!—Preceding unsigned comment added by user (talkcontribs) 9:35, Januaray 2, 2010
  2. Rayquaza kicks serious BUTT!!! He is one of my favorite pokemon too! --—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 7:06, January 3, 2011
  3. Ridley,feel the pain![Kamekification] —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)
  4. I always feel like Raquaza has more total health.—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 7:58, Januray 5, 2011


This feels like another one-sided vote. It hasn't even been an hour into the battle yet and Rayquaza has 6 votes, while Ridley has 0. BrawlingbrianFalcoHeadSSBU.png LANDMASTER! 11:07, 1 January 2011 (EST)

In anything involving voting, one sided votes are more common than close ones :p Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:35, 1 January 2011 (EST)

Just a little FYI, Rayquaza cannot control the weather completely. He can only make it peaceful. He cannot make it not ever make it rain, or make it rain, or make a storm. Mesuxelf MetaKnightHeadSSBU.png (talk) 13:10, 1 January 2011 (EST) Kyogre and Groudon can make it rain and make it stop, respectivly.Sonicsmasher777 (talk) 23:39, 1 January 2011 (EST)

uhh... I think it IS another one sided vote... but at least better than the fight before this! (latias latios vs kat and ana) Lucasthefourth -.- (talk) 04:16, 2 January 2011 (EST)

I think it is because there are so many generations of Pokemon, and people know pikachu more than samus. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 15:56, 2 January 2011 (EST)

Samus and Ridley go through way more Character Development than Deoxys and Rayquaza. My vote goes to Ridley. 13:28, 3 January 2011 (EST)

Read the rules, you do not post argumentative comments in the comments section. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:32, 4 January 2011 (EST)
Uh, I'm just saying. How was that argumative? I was pointing out a fact. 00:13, 5 January 2011 (EST)

P.S. I'm kind of annoyed, and I want my vote to count for a whole one. I forgot to sign it but didn't notice. So, if you can, could I sign it and see if you may move it to votes? Please? 00:26, 5 January 2011 (EST)

Not allowed.MegaTron1XD:p 00:27, 5 January 2011 (EST)
Crap! But I'm tired of Pokemon winning! 00:33, 5 January 2011 (EST)
It's a simple contest, it really isn't anything to get worked up about.MegaTron1XD:p 00:35, 5 January 2011 (EST)
It's annoying yet warming to have Pokemon win. I have a suggestion. Kirby vs. Yoshi.
Isn't the place for it, suggestions are currently closed.MegaTron1XD:p 00:44, 5 January 2011 (EST)
I would just like to say that your vote not counting as a whole had nothing to do with you not being logged in, but because you forgot to sign the vote. – SmiddleT 09:31, 5 January 2011 (EST)
I said sign IT. Can't you read?
Negative. (Now you forgot again, by the way.) – SmiddleT 17:50, 8 January 2011 (EST)

Round 68: Fox vs. Falco[edit]

Fox SSBB.jpg
Falco SSBB.jpg

17 to 24.5
Falco SSBB.jpg
I don't guess you should be thankful, but this round pits the two best pilots of the Star Fox team against each other. While Fox is the definite head of the group, Falco is in many ways the more popular of the two. Which of them wins their latest battle of hits and wits?

Votes for Fox[edit]

  1. Fox71.229.124.176 19:55, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  2. What a cruel decision! In the end I have to go with Fox for 4 reasons: He's an original, he's the main character, he was at the top in two Smash games (admittedly, so was Falco, but Fox was higher), and personally, I prefer the land! 21:08, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  3. Fox is one of my favourite and better characters. Plus Falco irritates me a lot in the Star Fox games when he gets angry at me when i save his life. 21:19, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  4. Better with, if only by a bit. HavocReaper 21:30, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  5. Fox, even though his name is very plainLordNock (talk) 22:29, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  6. Fox has been one of the more effective characters throughout the entire series. I do pretty well with Fox. He scores KO's at a great rate. Lili Rochefort 1965 (talk) 23:00, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  7. Fox's blaster is more easier to steal some KO. Lucasthefourth LucasHeadSSBB.png ('.'-) 00:03, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  8. Fox actually has some combo potential, unlike Falco that relies on his chaingrab and blaster to combo someone. But hey, this is just my opinion. Zero (talk) 05:01, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  9. I always mained Fox in Super Smash Bros (excluding the first one). Fox has high speed and skill potential. I main both in both Melee and Brawl, but Fox always came up higher than Falco. Zeldasmash (talk) 11:15, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  10. Fox: You see oh that up smash,and now happy feet, wombo combo that ain't falco... Ryder (talk) 07:03, 9 January 2011 (EST)
  11. Fox is my fav. character his detail is amazing. and a few things that is better about him than falco reason 1 his 1 or b + \/ down can be stuck like that for hours unlike falcos which is like 1 second. and reason 2 he's cooler (YoshiKartWii (talk) 16:29, 10 January 2011 (EST))
  12. He's my main. 'Nuff said. Valsion 18:24, 13 January 2011 (EST)
  13. Fox because he's cooler.Dragon of Chaos (talk) 01:09, 13 January 2011 (EST)
  14. Fox cause he's awesome AND he can actually pull off a decent combo.Rising Dragon (talk) 23:27, 13 January 2011 (EST)
  15. This was hard, but Fox was in the origional so FOX FOR THE WIN! 22:24, 14 January 2011 (EST)

Half votes[edit]

  1. I have played star fox 64 and falco was the first to lose, and in brawl, falco is one of my worst characters. Fox is better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 2:05, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  2. Fox's better Cw11cw —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cw11cw (talkcontribs) 08:53, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  3. One vote for the ORIGINAL LANDMASTA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 18:53, 9 January 2011 (EST)
  4. gotta vote fox because he was the BEST in ssb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 10:18, 12 January 2011 (EST)

Votes for Falco[edit]

  1. I use Falco a lot. Fox, ehh. PKFireMetaKnightHeadSSBU.png MetaKnight
  2. My main is Falco, not Fox. Enough said. BrawlingbrianFalcoHeadSSBU.png LANDMASTER! 19:38, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  3. I main him, so why not vote for him.MegaTron1XD:p 19:51, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  4. Arg! Some site error prevented me from posting my long post as to why Falco is better than Fox, so I'll just say this:Falco is awsome. Mr. Anon (talk) 20:18, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  5. I always preferred Falco to Fox. I find him to be a more appealing character in Star Fox, and I enjoy playing him more in Smash Bros. Plus, I've always been better with Falco than Fox in Melee and Brawl. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 21:22, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  6. I like Falco more than Fox because of the chain and lazer techniques in brawl, the fun and epic combos in Melee, in a way him in general, and the reason for Exterminators rage quits when we Brawl XD. Doc King (talk) 22:38, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  7. Although many Falco's enjoy chaingrabbing on the ground, personally, I prefer the air(eal attacks). Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 22:55, 7 January 2011 (EST)
  8. I just prefer Falco more then Fox. --UilMash (talk) 02:42, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  9. What, no falco jokes yet? I prefer falco, though I use him worse then fox :P. Vincent Tran Blorbs?Kirby-1.png 02:50, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  10. This was a tough one, I was originally going to vote for Falco, then I switched to Fox, then back to Falco. I thought about Fox's tier rankings in 64 and Melee. But Falco is one of the characters I use in Brawl, so I choose Falco. -- 03:02, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  11. I hate them both about the same. However, with Fox, I kept self-destructing in All star mode which led to me hating him more. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:56, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  12. Sorry Fox, but since you beat Rayquaza, and Rayquaza won the last one, I have to vote for Falco. I think that this is a very stupid reason, but I love Falco.Mesuxelf MetaKnightHeadSSBU.png (talk) 06:53, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  13. I think Falco has better attacks and he is higher tier in Brawl. 10:45, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  14. Falco may be a pilot, but I have to say that his tactics work better much of the time, like his blaster. 11:50, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  15. Keeping bread germ-free since 2008. That's worth a vote. – SmiddleT 17:46, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  16. Sorry Fox but i main with you but I would like to go air and bread instead of plain ground. ..... (talk) 18:49, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  17. I main him. (Wow, for once I didn't use an internet meme in my vote for a famous internet meme character.)-Ivy73002MS.png 19:02, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  18. I'm better with him.Sonicsmasher777 (talk) 21:36, 8 January 2011 (EST)
  19. I will have to agree towards falco for two reasons he looks cooler and somehow fights better. Not really sure how? JakeMeeble (talk) 14:55, 9 January 2011 (EST)
  20. HANDS OF MAH BREAD! Silent Viper (talk) 21:34, 9 January 2011 (EST)
  21. I was so happy when he was in meelee and he was my main. I was even angry in super smash for the nintendo 64 cause he wasnt there and wished for him to show up in the next game and he actually appeared!!! Zeegamer (talk) 09:01, 10 January 2011 (EST)
  22. You heard the bird: DON'T try him... Super AviatorSamusHeadSSBB.png(Altius coolius)CaptainFalconHeadSSBB.png話して下さい 15:39, 10 January 2011 (EST)
  23. Falco. Fox sucks. XD DynasticAnthony (talk) 14:58, 11 January 2011 (EST)
  24. I've always just been better with falco in the smash series - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 07:00, 13 January 2011 (EST)

Half votes[edit]

  1. FALCO 4 DA WIN!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 11:08, 11 January 2011 (EST)


I just realized I have a Falco head in the sig for my vote for Falco. Funny. BrawlingbrianFalcoHeadSSBU.png LANDMASTER! 19:40, 7 January 2011 (EST)

Im probaly going to offend a lot of people right now, but... I personaly think that Falco is overrated. Not so much in Melee than in Brawl.LordNock (talk) 22:32, 7 January 2011 (EST)

Read rule #7, you do not use the comments section to post argumentative comments. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:49, 7 January 2011 (EST)

Wow, both their moves is ultimately the same, only the name and their blaster that is different. Lucasthefourth LucasHeadSSBB.png ('.'-) 00:11, 8 January 2011 (EST)

Similar =/= the same. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 02:54, 8 January 2011 (EST)
But i guess one of the differences is that fox is easier to 'hear' since falco's 'Hands off my prey' become 'Hands of my bread'... witch is two different things....prey... bread... well except if falco's prey IS his bread...Lucasthefourth Subspace lucas.PNG tee4two 08:43, 11 January 2011 (EST)

Just wondering, Do we HAVE to leave a description for why we voted for him/her/it? Mesuxelf MetaKnightHeadSSBU.png (talk) 06:55, 8 January 2011 (EST)

No, a simple "I like X more" is sufficient. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 08:15, 8 January 2011 (EST)
Ok, thanks :) Mesuxelf MetaKnightHeadSSBU.png (talk) 09:50, 8 January 2011 (EST)

Knew this was coming :D:D:D:D:D. ..... (talk) 18:51, 8 January 2011 (EST)

I'm new can someone tell me if I voted right? JakeMeeble (talk) 15:06, 9 January 2011 (EST)

Yep. You voted right. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 15:14, 9 January 2011 (EST)
All that you have to do is put a #, then type in why you like him/her, then sign it by typing ~~~~. ..... (talk) 17:49, 10 January 2011 (EST)
Don't put anything below the warning sign too. ..... (talk) 17:56, 10 January 2011 (EST)

Round 69: Mute City vs. Port Town Aero Dive[edit]

Port Town Aero Dive
Port Town Aero Dive.jpg

14 to 21
Port Town Aero Dive.jpg
The racetracks of the F-Zero circuits are pretty unforgiving to those who drive on them, so how bad will they be for those who fight on them? These two crazy looped and swooped messes of metal are now here in the Arena, ready for one of them to be voted better than the other.

Votes for Mute City[edit]

  1. It was a better stage imo.MegaTron1XD:p 22:44, 14 January 2011 (EST)
  2. They're both Captain Falcon stages, and I've always felt Captain Falcon is better in Melee. Fuddlebob (talk) 01:21, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  3. I like this stage more, its aesthetics were more pleasing, and the stage hazards in Mute City are easier to avoid, much less powerful, and overall, less disruptive. Plus, it doesn't have a randomness factor like PTAD and punishes mistakes much less severely, resulting in a more enjoyable experience. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 06:28, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  4. I like this stage more, I just hate the other one so bad it didnt have musch fun as this one did. In nrawl I rarley play in that stage but in meelee I played with this stage alot Zeegamer (talk) 08:51, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  5. I just love this stage! Mesuxelf MetaKnightHeadSSBU.png (talk) 09:05, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  6. Honestly, both of these stages are great. I can't pick a winner, so I'm voting for the track with less votes. 12:22, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  7. Cars don't cause OHKOs in this one.-Ivy73002MS.png 12:32, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  8. Original always wins when it is against a new (and dum) thing GO GO GO MUTE F-ZERO ROCKS Fghrty77 (talk) 16:45, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  9. I guess I'm just conservative or something, but the other one just feels... lame... for some reason. – SmiddleT 16:50, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  10. A stage that I don't know about > One of the worst stage in the game. BrawlingbrianFalcoHeadSSBU.png LANDMASTER! 17:41, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  11. I may play Brawl more now, but I am a Melee boy at heart. And the Capt. is my main. Jt45fan (talk) 20:59, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  12. I say this because I like Melee better than Brawl. Smash-jay (talk) 20:38, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  13. This stage is a lot more fun than port town. This has a tunnel, no zero death cars, better platforms, that nice big jump of the major platform in the air, better music, and looks more classic fun with the whole classic Melee stuff. Doc King (talk) 14:31, 16 January 2011 (EST)
  14. This stage is cooler of the two. Tailed Fox (talk) 20:28, 18 January 2011 (EST)

Votes for Port Town Aero Dive[edit]

  1. I like how the stops create killing opportunities, and insanity is always better. Plus, i know nothing about Mute City.PKFireMetaKnightHeadSSBU.png MetaKnight
  2. I like it how they pretty much perfectly recreated this stage from F-Zero GX. 22:47, 14 January 2011 (EST)
  3. I actually like the tracks the same, but this track has better music. Its version of the Mute City theme is better than Melee's. Mr. Anon (talk) 23:59, 14 January 2011 (EST)
  4. P.T.A.D is Waaaaaay cooler... honestly, i choose this not because it's cooler, but i don't play Melee OR SSB... Lucasthefourth Subspace lucas.PNG tee4two 01:01, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  5. Well, im a Brawl player, so i gonna choose Port Town. --UilMash (talk) 03:21, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  6. Port Town Aero dive is way cooler then Mute City! And the songs are better! Zero (talk) 04:17, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  7. I love this stage. One of my favourites. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 05:18, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  8. Good graphics and faster. ..... (talk) 11:59, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  9. I hope I'm voting the right way... Anyway, Port Town Aero Dive is way better than Mute City because of the colors, the versatility and the fact you can kill your enemies by pushing them in front of cars... O_O 14:12, 15 January 2011 (EST)Dragon
  10. I just plain like this one better. 19:13, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  11. I like the place. Just that KirbytheAmazing (talk) 23:47, 15 January 2011 (EST)
  12. I prefer PTAD over MC. Unknown the Hedgehog 00:55, 16 January 2011 (EST)
  13. I just like this one better.Rising Dragon (talk) 03:15, 17 January 2011 (EST)
  14. I always liked this one becuase it's easier to brawl on, Mute city was just too hard Ice Climbers 4ever (talk) 20:22, 17 January 2011 (EST)
  15. There could be only one... Port Down Aero Drive.Ryder (talk) 13:13, 19 January 2011 (EST)
  16. I love the giant R.O.B. :3 - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 06:59, 18 January 2011 (EST)
  17. You got SD power! Super AviatorFZeroSymbol.svg(Altius maximo) 話して下さい 22:40, 18 January 2011 (EST)
  18. I like how there are platforms that appear so you can avoid the cars, but holes in the ground, so it really wants you on the platforms. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 00:57, 21 January 2011 (EST)

Half votes[edit]

  1. i never played melee, and this stage is a cool stage for giant clear battles!—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 8:08, January 15, 2011
  2. go PTAD!—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 9:00, January 16, 2011
  3. Personally, I haven't played melee, and in brawl, PTAD is cool and it's more fun! But, I don't like F-Zero at all, in fact, I have never played it!—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 4:55, January 16, 2011
  4. I really hate both of them but i can stand this one a bit more due to not having 1-hit K.O. cars—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 4:36, January 18, 2011
  5. I have to vote for Port Town Aero Dive because you can just MURDER people easier.BigBlue321—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talkcontribs) 2:03, January 20, 2011
  6. go PTAD! go PTAD! port town is the greatest stage EVER!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:38, 21 January 2011 (EST)


Awwessome battle!! honestly, it's a little unfair since most people that play melee play brawl, and those who play brawl won't play melee. Lucasthefourth Subspace lucas.PNG tee4two 09:51, 15 January 2011 (EST)

I honestly can't choose.

Mute City:

  • Awesome music
  • Less suicidal
  • Safer and more controlled in general
  • You can RACE on it, at least in the single player modes
  • It's from Melee. Falcon's way better in this game.


  • Insanity at every stop
  • More killing opportunities
  • Excellent Falcon ditto stage
  • Constant dying and risk taking
  • Awesome music

Can't really decide. HavocReaper 13:34, 15 January 2011 (EST)

Seems like Port Town Aero Dive will win by 1 Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 09:27, 17 January 2011 (EST)

This will not be my first lost. ..... (talk) 10:23, 17 January 2011 (EST)

Meh who wants a controlled environment? The more spontaneous the more fun - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 07:02, 18 January 2011 (EST) 2011 (EST)

PTAD is going to win by FAR!!!

With 6 points in the lead. ..... (talk) 19:10, 20 January 2011 (EST)

The last count... ..... (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2011 (EST)

Anyone wanna vote on Friday of where the winner gets determined? This is your last chance to vote for this round. ..... (talk) 17:39, 21 January 2011 (EST)

Uh, why are votes #10 and 11 for PTAD by identical IP addresses? Miles (talk) 17:52, 21 January 2011 (EST)

Not anymore. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Eggster 20:45, 21 January 2011 (EST)

Round 70: Giga Bowser vs. Crazy Hand[edit]

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Giga Bowser
Giga Bowser Melee Trophy.png

21 to 12
It's a contest between Melee's two secret bosses, both with corrupted movesets full of darkness and other wacko stuff. Brawl definitely gave the lefty the short end of the stick, giving Giga Bowser Final Smash status and leaving Crazy Hand out of the Subspace Emissary. Will this be a battle of revenge?

Votes for Giga Bowser[edit]

  1. Unique idea: only boss with a damage meter and not an HP meter. Miles (talk) 21:18, 21 January 2011 (EST)
  2. He's so different from every boss. He has a damage meter and makes the transition from a boss to a Final Smash quite smoothly.MegaTron1XD:p 21:43, 21 January 2011 (EST)
  3. He's better speed and super powerful. Very different from the other bosses and owns. ..... (talk) 22:13, 21 January 2011 (EST)
  4. In Brawl, it's total annihiliation for 10 seconds. In Melee, it's the greatest boss ever.-Ivy73002MS.png 22:17, 21 January 2011 (EST)
  5. Easier to Knee, YESH, and Pawnch. HavocReaper 23:40, 21 January 2011 (EST)
  6. He's basicly a death machineLordNock (talk) 23:44, 21 January 2011 (EST)
  7. giga bowser is the coolest boss EVER! crazy hand is just, well, a crazy hand!
  8. Crazy Hand is easy to kill and seeing as Bowser can kill Crazy Hand easily, Giga Bowser would completely destroy him. 02:35, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  9. Giga Bowser is a boss much more unique then any other boss. He got a full moveset, and is only boss playable (atleast in Brawl). --UilMash (talk) 03:06, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  10. Giga Bowser FTW! Zero (talk) 04:13, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  11. I like Giga more. ☆The Solar (EST)Dragon☆ 04:20, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  12. Crazy Hand is a joke. 21:54, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  13. Gigaaaa Bowseeerrrr!!! I vote him because he's a boss that you can actually control, even though I don't use him much. He also pwns Crazy Hand and Master Hand combined. 03:56, 23 January 2011 (EST)Dragon
  14. His Melee incarnation at the end of Adventure mode was easily my favorite Smash Bros. boss, and one of my favorite bosses in any video game. I was heavily disappointed that he didn't return in Brawl in boss form, and the closer thing to him in Brawl was a giant, dull Mario who is more frustrating than fun to fight :/ I have such fond memories of battling Giga Bowser with Ganondorf. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 06:56, 23 January 2011 (EST)
  15. I enjoyed the fact that I could land so many knees on Giga Bowser in Event 51 of SSBM, while Crazy Hand moved too much for me to even land one. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 16:18, 24 January 2011 (EST)
  16. Giga Bowser versus Master Hand? What a joke. Giga Bowser doesn't flinch from attacks (in Brawl, at least), and has a damage meter rather than an HP meter, meaning that he can live pretty much indefinitely.Hawk 21 (talk) 18:32, 24 January 2011 (EST)
  17. Heh. In Melee, this guy puts up a good fight and he was a worthy adversary in my little 'ole eyes. Best challenge I have ever endeavored. When it comes to Brawl, I just love being Giga for a "day". His theme music also rocks! Lili Rochefort 1965 (talk) 10:01, 25 January 2011 (EST)
  18. giga bowser can't be KOed unless it's a SD Goatcathead (talk) 23:06, 25 January 2011 (EST)
  19. Giga Bowser is so much fun to fight, I remember beating him at the end of Adventure Mode with Pichu, how I first beat him in the final event match as Dr. Mario, and how I juggled him across the stage on his last stock as Weegee when I did it without losing a life, KOing him with a fair (I think). Good times. Goooooood times... Anthony1996 (talk) 20:25, 26 January 2011 (EST)

Half votes[edit]

  1. I dont have Melee but in Brawl He is Awesome Giga bowser is beast!!! 14:04, 22 January 2011
  2. I really respect this guy. In melee he creamed me time and time again. Also Crazy/Master hand is way too easy even on intense BB.—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 8:17, January 22, 2011
  3. Crazy Hand needs Master hand to be anywhere near difficult to kill, and Giga Bowser is annoyingly brutal in Melee, and his event number is 1 higher than the Hands' event, and way harder as well. Also, I'm pretty sure at least one of Giga Bowsers' hands would already be crazy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuddlebob (talkcontribs) 2:49, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  4. I Never got a chance to see crazy hand... and giga Bowser looks.. umm... Worse... and, EVIL! Mario Series rocks!!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 4:15, January 25, 2011

Votes for Crazy Hand[edit]

  1. Come on, who doesn't like Master Hand's mirror alternative? Besides, I never liked Giga Bowser from the start. One reason was that he was creepy and annoying, and then now when I find out that I can still damage him, I just think of him as a ... sheep in a wolf's clothing, if that makes any sense. BrawlingbrianFalcoHeadSSBU.png LANDMASTER! 21:12, 21 January 2011 (EST)
  2. I choose crazy hand, why? coz he's CRAAAAAAAZZYYYYYYY!!Lucasthefourth Subspace lucas.PNG PokeySparta 23:21, 21 January 2011 (EST)
  3. I've just got a thing for crazy stuff, and Giga just ain't that crazy. – SmiddleT 04:34, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  4. Crazy hand dominates!!!!!Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 07:13, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  5. Crazy Hand is awesome!! He could kill Giga Bowser if we could ACTUALLY SEE a battle Fghrty77 (talk) 10:55, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  6. Yay! My fight is up! I choose Crazy Hand because I've always thought of him as a really cool boss. Mr. Anon (talk) 13:05, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  7. it was always funny when he did a seizure right in the ground near me, and I couldn't escape XD.Vincent Tran Blorbs?Kirby-1.png 13:30, 22 January 2011 (EST)
  8. Because crazy hand crazy and I'm CRAZIEH!!! Nyeh heh heh heh!!!KirbytheAmazing (talk) 04:31, 24 January 2011 (EST)
  9. Just like Crazy hand more- Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 06:56, 24 January 2011 (EST)
  10. Crazy Hand. I never was able to beat him, even in normal mode. I vote here because, well, I've never even fought Giga Bowser! 21:38, 24 January 2011 (EST)
  11. I like Crazy Hand (and Master Hand) much more then Giga Bowser. Thus, I'm voting for Crazy Hand. -- 05:24, 26 January 2011 (EST)
  12. I like Crazy Hand Better Because i Ha-te the way Giga Bowser Looks but, if it was for the series BOWSER ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!! YoshiKartWii (talk) 19:31, 26 January 2011 (EST)


Can't chooce until now -_- Lucasthefourth Subspace lucas.PNG PokeySparta 22:26, 21 January 2011 (EST)

Hmm, i guess Crazy hand would do... Lucasthefourth Subspace lucas.PNG PokeySparta 23:20, 21 January 2011 (EST)

Partially Giga Bowser is invincible and all the other bosses are not so this is why I voted for him. ..... (talk) 10:15, 22 January 2011 (EST)

Well choose what you want to vote.
Technically, Giga Bowser is not an invincible boss, since it his final smash incarnation that has the infinite super armor while his boss form in Melee had none. Also, even in his final smash incarnation, he is not invincible. He still takes damage, and he can even be KO'd outside SDing, if he is hit by any hitstun producing hitbox when above the upper blast line. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 06:56, 23 January 2011 (EST)

I have absolutely no idea who to choose. 12:11, 22 January 2011 (EST) One has dark claws, electro shell, bomb horns, and blizzard spin. while the other can grab, bomb, pummel, pound, impale, run over, and lauch at you. Hhhmmmmmm... LordNock (talk) 13:41, 22 January 2011 (EST)

Well, If you can't choose a proper reason to vote, why not vote over something trivial? Like, say... Giga Bowser is bigger, or Crazy hand has more fingers on each (...) hand? I'm sure you can think of something that would be almost no help in a fight... Fuddlebob (talk) 06:40, 23 January 2011 (EST)\

Giga Bowser can die from a rest from Jigglypuff while he's standing on Smashville, and yes i said standing- Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 07:00, 24 January 2011 (EST)

I thaught that Crazy hand would win big time! Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 15:19, 24 January 2011 (EST)

OT, if you look at the page history, both 12 and 13 are the same vote (by YoshiKartWii). BrawlingbrianFalcoHeadSSBU.png LANDMASTER! 08:48, 27 January 2011 (EST)

I see that now, but you should have clarified more, and/or edited so the vote didn't appear as two different votes after you removed the number sign. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 08:52, 27 January 2011 (EST)

When does this end? ..... (talk) 20:40, 28 January 2011 (EST)

Typically rounds end once I realize it's Friday evening. Toomai Glittershine ??? The SMASH-GINEER 22:02, 28 January 2011 (EST)