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Round 101: Yoshi vs. Kirby[edit]

Yoshi SSBB.jpg
Kirby SSBB.jpg

12.5 to 28.5
Kirby SSBB.jpg
The first fight of the second century is your run-of-the-mill Smasher vs. Smasher with similarities - the thing that make this place popular to begin with. Which hungry hero will come out on top?

Votes for Yoshi[edit]

  1. I use Yoshi a fair amount because of his massive damage down-air, and surprisingly powerful up-air. So Happy ♪ ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 18:32, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. I like that constipated sound he makes when he flutter-jumps. Go Yoster! -- 19:05, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. -- 20:58, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. The stinging loss of Luigi vs. close. Anyway, when I first got Melee I played as him, so he holds some nostalgia to me.-Ivy73002MS.png 22:15, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. I was going to make a risque joke here involving the words "licking" and "sucking", but nah. Hawk 21 (talk) 23:15, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  6. Yoshi! No one can beat this guy. Anyone who can look cute as a small raptor in the live action movie Super Mario Bros has to be awesome. Plus he has the flutter jump. And he's always SO HAPPY. 25T16 DrMarioHeadSSBM.png It's-a me! 09:49, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  7. YOSHI!Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 10:20, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  8. Super Dragon! 02:05, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  9. I think of.........................................YOOOOOOSHIIII! -- 10:44, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  10. Yoshi has had way better than Kirby. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 19:03, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

Half votes[edit]

  1. Yoshi is the best character in any SSB. Could Kirby do a Flutter-Jump + Tailed Star-KO?—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:30, 27 August 2011
  2. . Nothing stops Yoshi. Super Luigi Bros. (talk) 11:00, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. They both can pull off a sacrifice KO. However Yoshi lays eggs. --HavocReaper48 16:14, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. Yoshi Is EPIC! Put The HURT ON KIRBY!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 15:08, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. Yoshi is a decent character, and so is Kirby. However, Yoshi has a hidden strength that Kirby lacks, the toungue. Kirby may be able to copy other abilities, but Yoshi is able to damage and stun enemies. 17:10, 31 August 2011 (EDT)17:10, 31 August 2011 (EDT)17:10, 31 August 2011 (EDT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by GalaxyDetective (talkcontribs) 17:10, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Kirby[edit]

  1. HIII! Blindcolours Ganbarimasu! 18:26, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. I play as neither frequently, but I'd much rather use Kirby over Yoshi. Because of those awesome hats he gets when he copies abilities. ReiDemon 18:29, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. Let me think, a character that I really hate versus a character that I love? The answer seems obvious to me. Squishyfrog Chat 18:39, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. Hiii!!!! ..... Naturaly PikachuHeadSSBB.png why? 18:58, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. -----> Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 19:49, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  6. Um...hello?????? pink marshmellow vs. green dinosaur. i think there is an obvious winner here.--Thejfh1999 (talk) 19:54, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  7. Kirby sucks. Mr. Anon (talk) 19:59, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  8. While I like Yoshi, as a character in Brawl he really isn't that great. 23:35, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  9. Kirby literally sucks. Yoshi figuratively sucks. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 23:40, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  10. Kirby's not just a pink marshmellow, he's a yarn. Kirby's not just a yarn, he's a tank. And kirby's not just a tank, he's a car, a sub, a flying saucer and more. KIRBY IS EPIIIIIIICZò.óLucas-IV- Combo God!Lucas alive.PNG 23:45, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  11. Kirby can copy opponents, but all Yoshi does is lay eggs. Mastersword (talk) 00:53, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  12. It was a very hard decision. I actually like Yoshi but I like Kirby that little bit more. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:54, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  13. Luigi's hurts! Anyways, Kirby is my fourth main. Yoshi? Not even close. -- 06:35, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  14. Two things: Kirby can copy Wolf to look awesome, and the HAMMER. And I never use Yoshi.--PSIWolf (TCE) 06:53, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  15. Puffball for the win! 23:14, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  16. I have played several Kirby , but no Yoshi ones. You lose, Yoshi! 08:29, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  17. Hiiiiiiiiiiii! Cherrim98 (talk) 13:26, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  18. Definitely Kirby. I don't use him much, but I've never used Yoshi. Toa 95 (talk) (PS: HIIIIIIIII!)
  19. HAAAIII!!!!!! --SmashPics404 (talk) 13:07, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  20. Ive only ever used yoshi once, i really do hate him. kirby is awesome tho, with a custom taunt and copy ability--Dr. PikaLinkSmash (talk) 13:12, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  21. Kirby is the most bad-ass looking bubbegum ball i've ever come across. My vote goes for Kirby Amy (Heidi) Hedgefox (talk) 16:12, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  22. Uh, duh! Kirby, the puffball of doom pwns all! Kopykirby26 (talk) 20:10, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  23. he's fat and better.Floor2000x (talk) 17:33, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
  24. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 14:17, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
  25. Even though kirby sucks (Derp) he still kicks ass. :P Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) CaptainFalconHeadSSBB.png 03:09, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
  26. I like Kirby more as a character and his games are more interesting. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 03:18, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
  27. Pink Sphere of Fear! 15:14, 1 September 2011 (EDT)


  1. I vote Kirby because he can copy other fighters' moves and is hard to predict!}" —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 2:05, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. Yoshi is an Annoying Sack of Dog Feces. Kirby may share his own moments of Annoyingness, but at least he can say a couple more things than his own name. I'd much rather have Toad in SSB than Yoshi. -Preceding unsigned comment added by (EDT)
  3. OMNOMNOM! 11:08, 31 August 2011 (EDT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 14:08, 31 August 2011 (EDT)


@Mr.Anon Nice pun. xD -- 21:11, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

@Ivy I hear ya. And by half a vote, too. Although I geuss it's kind of fitting, considering he's Luigi. -- 01:25, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

@Dr.Pain if you think kirby is worse than Yoshi, why is your vote in kirby's--Oh wait...I feel dumb... 25T16 DrMarioHeadSSBM.png It's-a me! 09:53, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

@ You know, Yoshi CAN infact speak english, it's just very broken english. 25T16 DrMarioHeadSSBM.png It's-a me! 23:07, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Plus, Toad IS in Smash Bros. Brawl! Well, kinda... Toa 95 (talk)

@Toast: Please don't start referencing NCS. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 22:24, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Why shouldn't we be able to talk about NintendoCapriSun? You know, IN THE BATHROOM. ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 13:46, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
Because he's a terrible, terrible person. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 01:27, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
Obviously, you've never seen a NCS vid. He is in no way a horrible person. He actually used Super Mario Sunshine to quit smoking. Please, calm down. We're just having some fun. 25T16 DrMarioHeadSSBM.png It's-a me! 20:03, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

Uh, Yoshi isn't a "bottomless foodbag". His nature isn't to eat a lot, he's just known to swallow a lot of things (turning most of them into eggs). Yoshi enjoys fruit rather than other foods, unlike Kirby, who eats just about anything. Yoshi also has a stomach and can get full. Wario and even Mario are more of a "foodbag" than Yoshi is. The fact that Yoshi cannot swallow items is further proof that he isn't a glutton. Just saying, if that last part can be removed, it should. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 03:18, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

Vote yoshi #10 If Kirby eats Yoshi, he'll get t3h tounge... ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God!Lucas alive.PNG 23:19, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

Round 102: Flare Blade vs. Eruption[edit]

Roy's B move.jpg
Flare Blade
Roy's B move.jpg

22.5 to 14.5
Two charge-up sword attacks that, if allowed to wind up to maximum strength, produce large explosions almost guarenteed to KO. Which has the bigger bang?

Votes for Flare Blade[edit]

  1. Always loved this one. Miles (talk) 18:24, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. Because Roy, dammit. ReiDemon 18:26, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. Such an easy choice. Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 18:31, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. Two sword charges, hmm? When fully charged, one creates a giant freaking explosion by slamming a sword onto the floor while the other plunges a sword into the ground making a lackluster bust of flame. In my opinion, the choice is clear. Squishyfrog Chat 19:31, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. Roy's our boy! --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 19:35, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  6. My suggestion appeared so fast :P ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 21:16, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. Heh, appreciate all the love you're giving me. Lol. Lmfao. I'm only kidding. But yeah. Roy rules, Ike drools. --RoyboyX (talk) 21:21, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  8. Roy has T3H PH1RE. inb4yousaidthatlasttimewhenyouvotedforroy -Ivy73002MS.png 22:11, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  9. Roy ftw James<3 (talk) 23:55, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  10. Roy's our boy, --HavocReaper48 10:54, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  11. OHKO, that's all I have to say. 25T16 DrMarioHeadSSBM.png It's-a me! 11:35, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  12. ..... I think so.... WolfHeadSSBB.png S454 12:22, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  13. I miss this Roy dude. 12:25, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  14. GO ROY. Smiddle 君怒る? 10:24, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
  15. Roy is not beaten by Ike, and Eruption's not even an OHKO.--Akirra' says: Meow! =^_^=' 23:06, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
  16. Immense power move, this is. Eruption pales in comparison. 10:07, 5 September 2011 (EDT)
  17. I always picked Roy over Marth just because the fire made him look cooler! Anthony1996 (talk) 01:58, 7 September 2011 (EDT)
  18. Flare blade is simply the better move. It's faster, has better reach, and more edgeguarding capability. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)
  19. I've major burnout at the moment, so I have nothing to say. It's simply a better move. Hawk 21 (talk) 23:59, 8 September 2011 (EDT)


  1. My vote only counts for a half vote. 19:10, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. I've never played Melee, but something I do know is that Roy is cooler. Also, after examining the pictures, I think Flare Blade looks a lot cooler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mastersword (talkcontribs) 02:52, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. Roy's attack creates a pretty cool explosion, while Ike's Eruption is'nt that awsome! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 09:44, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. I've never played Melee, but I've watched videos and I think that Flare Blade looks and performs much better. Takava (talk) 13:09, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. too similar, but i'll go with roy's Floor2000x (talk) 15:49, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  6. I dont play meelee but i hear roy is my vote shall count as half--SmashPics404 (talk) 19:20, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. flare blade has less starting lag after the charge is done. dont know why it takes ike so long to slam a sword into the ground.Pokémonultimate (talk) 11:58, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Eruption[edit]

  1. Difficult, this. But I don't remember Flare Blade having much effect unless at pretty high charge, while Eruption is powerful regardless. Plus, Flare Blade will get tons of votes saying t3h ph1re, so I'll say Eruption ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 18:30, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. Even when it isn't fully charged, I've still had an easier time KOing opponents with this thanks to the moves vertical knockback when not fully charged. 18:44, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. I remember once, when I was testing this move's OHKO possibility. I had told my cousin at the beginning of the match "just come over here. I'm trying to test whether this is a OHKO. Don't worry, it probably won't work". Guess what? It did. Mr. Anon (talk) 20:28, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. Per Toast. -- 21:02, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. I don't know Flare Blade ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God!Lucas alive.PNG 22:16, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  6. I tend to get more KOs with Eruption than Flare Blade. 23:17, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. Eruption Cw11cw 07:41, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  8. I've never played Melee, so I know nothing about Flare Blade.--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 08:22, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  9. Ike is just more powerful when it comes down to it, so Eruption is the clear winner. 10:18, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  10. I (Sadly) never played Melee, so my choice goes to this (Duh) Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) CaptainFalconHeadSSBB.png 10:23, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
  11. D'oh! Ike is powahful (and he's in SSBB) Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 10:45, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
  12. Ike is amazingly super awesome. As is Eruption. 16:45, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
  13. This is the move with the guy that says Aether!!!!!!!!!!!! (This counts as 5 votes) Cherrim98 (talk) 16:14, 7 September 2011 (EDT)
  14. We Like Ike! ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:17, 8 September 2011 (EDT)


  1. I just prefer a volcano to a bonfire. duh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:59, 6 September 2011 (EDT)


I enjoy how similar those screenshots are. Miles (talk) 18:24, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, too hard to decide so half-vote for me. 19:29, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

Wow, somebody actually used the new rule on half-voting I accidentally introduced! I feel so responsible... ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 19:18, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

Uhm, read the talk page. I was the one who suggested and argued for the allowance of intentional half votes. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:40, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
Yeah, you were the one responsible for it becoming legal. But I like to say I accidentally introduced it, because on the particular round, I was new to the wiki and hadn't thoroughly read the rules, so I didn't know what I did was illegal. Yet, next thing I know, a whole argument for legalisation happened, and the rule was introduced, all because I didn't know the true purpose of half-voting. That's why I think of it as a rule I brought in by accident. Credit to you for making it legal! ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 20:01, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

@PSIWolf Dude, someone needs to get you a copy of Melee. Now. 25T16 DrMarioHeadSSBM.png It's-a me! 11:37, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

I know! I have a GameCube ready, but not Melee itself...--FoxHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 11:38, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
You don't need a GameCube to play melee.... ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 12:01, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
...Or else I have a Wii, GC memory card and GC controller ready :P--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 12:03, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

@25T16 But Eruption is a OHKO as well. ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 12:15, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

Not at 0% damage, which is what a OHKO is classified as. Even a stage 8 Eruption won't cause insta-kill. 25T16 DrMarioHeadSSBM.png It's-a me! 21:06, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
The OHKO article claims it can kill at 0%, and other comments here say it can. Imma test it myself soon. ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 21:11, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
Be my guest, I may be wrong, but it's never worked for me. :\ 25T16 DrMarioHeadSSBM.png It's-a me! 21:21, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
A stage 8 Eruption is indeed an OHKO on Final Destination on all but Bowser, DK, Snake, King Dedede, Ganondorf, Ike, Captain Falcon, and Link, when it has the freshness bonus. As such, I say it's strong enough to be classified as an OHKO. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:02, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
Ahhhhh. Freshness was the key word. Thank you. 25T16 DrMarioHeadSSBM.png It's-a me! 13:08, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

@Anthony--> Marth? it's IKE dude! (-O-)Lucas-IV- pikaaaaLucas alive.PNG 11:04, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

I think he's saying he liked Roy better than Marth in Melee. It's kinda hard to compare Roy and Ike, Melee and Brawl are so different... -- 11:36, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

Toast utanimum a.k.a swadloon Why do me AND you always have the same votes Cherrim98 (talk) 16:18, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

I had a look through the past fights and this is the first time we've voted for the same thing in many rounds. You voted a different option in the last round, and every fight in the Super-Centennial. Although, love of the almighty Swadloon is shared. If you were a cocoon, you'd be fed up too! ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 09:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)

Round 103: Pokémon Stadium vs. Pokémon Stadium 2[edit]

Pokémon Stadium

17 to 15.5
Two stages that are similar in every way - except for the fact that one's based on fire, water, plants, and stone, whereas the other represents air, electricity, ice, and earth. Which locale is less of a loser?

Votes for Pokémon Stadium[edit]

  1. Hell yeah Blindcolours Stop smiling, it makes me happy. 19:39, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. More fair. Mr. Anon (talk) 20:04, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. Less cheap deaths. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 20:39, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. First stage I ever played in Melee. Ever. I don't think I even used Pokémon Stadium 2 in Brawl until I played on Pokémon Stadium five or six times. ReiDemon 22:53, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. yeah. ..... Ya really WolfHeadSSBB.png wanna look 23:22, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  6. Kidding me? Pokemon Stadium is my favourite Smash stage ever, and as if that wasn't enough, my second favourite piece of video game music ever plays here. -- 07:11, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. This stage feels more like Pokémon than the other one. Squishyfrog Chat 12:19, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  8. I like melee better than Brawl, so... --Akirra' says: Meow! =^_^= 14:01, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  9. I play on this stage more often -- 14:34, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  10. stadium 2 is cheap. Floor2000x (talk) 15:18, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  11. Still hasn't gotten old from my childhood.-Ivy73002MS.png 15:23, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  12. Johto music is enough to satisfy me. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 01:36, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
  13. This clash is a very tough one; both stages house excellent transformations and music...while I prefer the elements of Pokémon Stadium 1 as they are representative of the traditional types of each region's starter Pokémon, the elements of Fire and Water were poorly showcased in practice and just felt like bland terrain alterations. However, Pokémon Stadium 2 does look much prettier, with slightly cooler transformation icons and background Pokémon (plus a supposed Easter Egg!); the transformations actually make sense in correlation to their types (i.e., ELECTRIC-powered conveyor belt, ICY terrain). Both also feature arrangements of the classic "Pokémon Main Theme". Yet only one has the awesome medley of tracks from Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal (2nd Generation), which sways my vote thusly! =D 04:11, 12 September 2011 (EDT)
  14. --HavocReaper48 15:18, 12 September 2011 (EDT)
  15. this has T3H PH1RE. Pokémonultimate (talk) 23:02, 13 September 2011 (EDT)
  16. 00:33, 15 September 2011 (EDT)


  1. Come on, Fire, Water, Grass, and Rock are better than Electric, Wind, Special, and Ice —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 18:25, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. I like this stage's simplicity in terms of the alternate stages. James<3 (talk) 19:08, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Pokémon Stadium 2[edit]

  1. The Flying tier is fun. Next, there'll be Pokémon Stadium 3 with Dark (Very Dark), Steel (High Gravity), Bug (Anthill to the left) and Dragon (Oriental statue with platforms) tiers! ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 19:46, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. The changing stages here actually effect the fight with conveor belts and fans and the like. More fun. -- 22:45, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. I liked that there were background Pokemon in this stage. 23:07, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. Pokemon Stadium (not this one) doesn't have any special changes on the stage 01:09, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. This stadium represents cooler elements, looks cooler has pokemon cameos, and has a secret easter egg inside the ice hut. Mastersword (talk) 01:47, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  6. I prefer this one. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:11, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. The change is somewhat more massive (-O-)Lucas-IV- pikaaaaLucas alive.PNG 07:21, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  8. The Elements are better Cherrim98 (talk) 12:55, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  9. I used to not really like this stage, and saw the transformation as dreadful. However, after giving it a chance, I have come to really like this stage. Its matchup balance is probably the best of any stage in Brawl, it doesn't have weird ledges like Pokemon Stadium, and its transformations actually aren't as bad as Pokemon Stadium's. Pokemon Stadium 2 has rather bland music compared to Pokemon Stadium, but that is easily fixable with music hacks. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:21, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  10. I get more enjoyment from the transformations of this stage. 23:56, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  11. Transformation including specials! (Excluding Ground or Rock or whatever) Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 04:46, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
  12. I've played it more. 08:08, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
  13. I'm back! Per all. -- 12:59, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
  14. Appears more futuristic to me. Melee is ancient history. 22:58, 11 September 2011 (EDT)
  15. Pkmn stadium 2 looks a lot better than the original one. There are actual background pokemon and stages that affect gameplay. Do you see any of that in stadium 1? Nope. Kopykirby26 (talk) 15:57, 16 September 2011 (EDT)


  1. I just like the types in Stadium 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:32, 10 September 2011 (EDT)


Note to User: that's apparently a point of contention about whether they are Pokemon or really pixelated people. Mr. Anon (talk) 00:51, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

No I meant the actual 3D Pokemon that appear when the stadium changes, like in the Ice-type area there's Snorunt and Snover. 01:00, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

Swadloon we voted the same again Cherrim98 (talk) 12:58, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

Grass-type instincts. Though in my teams, I'm primarily Ground-based. ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 13:23, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
I don't think this is worthwhile discussion on the comments. There is a 50% probability of you two voting the same, so it isn't something necessary to note. Mr. Anon (talk) 16:48, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

This is simply to close for me. I might have chosen Stadium 2 since it was the first stage I played Brawl on, but I like the first one, too. No vote for me. 25T16 File:HitboxEffect(Flame).png|20px It’s a me! 09:39, 11 September 2011 (EDT)

HOLY SHIT THIS IS CLOSE! Mr. Anon (talk) 15:28, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

Remember what rule #7 says, don't post comments that are just commenting on how close the match is. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 20:57, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

Round 104: Luigi vs. Link[edit]

Luigi SSBB.jpg
Link SSBB.jpg

18.5 to 19
Link SSBB.jpg
It's a pair of L-coloured green people on near-opposite ends of the jump ability spectrum and bravery scale. Who gets the verdant victory?

Votes for Luigi[edit]

  1. WEEGEE Blindcolours Killin' it since 1999. 18:41, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. I like Link as a main in SSB, but in SSBB, I'll take Luigi.-Ivy73002MS.png 18:44, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. It is I, the Green Missle! Prepare for... something. -- 19:48, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. I feel sorry for Luigi at round 100, so why not? ..... Ya really WolfHeadSSBB.png wanna look 20:11, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. Link is more badass, but I'm better with Luigi in SSB. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 21:30, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
  6. Losta spaghetti. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 02:37, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. one, i liek mario bros. Two, luigi can jump. Three, luigi don't have a big mouthed companion (hint, its a fairy). 4, luigi can turn super, fire, flying, mega, penguin, and even once a giant robot and the kewl Mr. L! (°(..)°)Lucas-IV- PigsLucas alive.PNG 06:16, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  8. Same as my vote in round 100. (I still feel bad for that green fellow.) -- 08:34, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  9. Link screams your ears off!--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 09:22, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  10. I like Luigi more. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 10:49, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  11. I hate Link so much; for that matter, I don't like any Legend of Zelda character. 13:15, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  12. Spaghetti. --HavocReaper48 14:32, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  13. Jumps higher in the Galaxy games. Plus, I love SPAGHETTI. 25T16File:HitboxEffect(Flame).png|20pxIt’s a me! 15:51, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  14. That's mama Luigi to you, Link! Squishyfrog Chat 12:47, 18 September 2011 (EDT)
  15. AND YOU GOTTA HELP US!!! Anthony1996 (talk) 00:09, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
  16. Luigi was my second favorite mario character.Favorite? Yep,BABYLUIGI!!!!!Babyluigi111 (talk) 17:04, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
  17. HEY LINK!!! 3 WORDS! FIRE. JUMP. PUNCH!!!!!Pokémonultimate (talk) 16:55, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
  18. Obvious choice. 23:11, 22 September 2011 (EDT)


  1. GO WEEGEE! Toa 95 (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toa 95 (talkcontribs) 19:12, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Link[edit]

  1. I don't play as either, but perhaps Luigi a little more. However, as a character, I think I slightly prefer Link. Link possesses the Triforce of Courage, Luigi can barely turn a doorknob. ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 18:46, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. -- 18:49, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. My username says it all. Zeldasmash (talk) 20:26, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. Link isn't cowardly, unlike Luigi. 21:50, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. Luigi is a coward, Link is a hero. Link has the Triforce of Courage, and all Luigi has is a silly cap. Mastersword (talk) 01:57, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  6. I so hate Luigi in Brawl. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:06, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. James<3 (talk) 09:16, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  8. Link is an awesome damsel-saving swordfighting jack-of-all-trades ACTION HERO, while Luigi is the coward to end all cowards. So what if Luigi can jump, Link. Is. Amazing. 17:08, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  9. Twilight Princess is awesome. 21:04, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
  10. Legend of Zelda is better then Mario in my opinion. Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) CaptainFalconHeadSSBB.png 02:03, 18 September 2011 (EDT)
  11. ONLY LINK CAN DEFEAT GANON!Mr. Anon (talk) 12:58, 18 September 2011 (EDT)
  12. I use him in all three games, and I think he's underrated! ReiDemon 18:02, 18 September 2011 (EDT)
  13. It is written: Only Link can stop Luigi from becoming the undefeatable! 03:10, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
  14. The Hero of Time vs. The Hero's Brother? No contest. --Akirra' says: Meow! =^_^= 19:41, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
  15. Link beats Luigi Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 20:41, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
  16. 13:13, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
  17. Who's the guy armed with a sword, bow and arrows, bombs, a boomerang and a shield to boot? Not Luigi, that's for sure. 17:38, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
  18. Yeah, Weegee can be funny at times, but he's freaking annoying when I'm brawling, especially during his Final Smash. Takava (talk) 16:38, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  19. LINK, MAH BOI. Luigi (or "WeeGee") is quite likable with his personality, Super Jump/Payday Fire Punch, and 1% damaging Taunt and all, but fighting with (and maining) the bow-bomb-boomerang-wielding swordsman decked in the green Hero's Clothes has gotten me through way more fights and events in the Super Smash Bros. series so far. Not to mention that he also possesses the Triforce of COURAGE, relentlessly vanquishing Ganondorf (as well as Zant and Vaati, among others) time and time again. Plus, he has ties to the very beautiful and hot ladies of Hyrule (Zelda/Sheik, Midna, Ilia, Telma, Ashei, Iza, Hena, etc.), so that's a bonus. AND he can turn into a BA wolf. And 'I liek swords' a lot, to boot. He also flawlessly sheathes his Master Sword and down-stabs enemies with ease, defending himself with the superb Hylian shield, if necessary. Finally, we can't forget Link's awesome punishing finishers, the Hurricane Blade (Spin Attack) and the epic Triforce Slash, both of which seal the deal in Link's favor. SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK! 16:46, 23 September 2011 (EDT)


@ Actually, Captain Falcon already did. By one half vote. >:( -- 07:26, 19 September 2011 (EDT)

I'm liking the theme for this match, as well as the various parallels being brought to light in the comments, like in that 'doorknob' comment above (i.e., the courageous Link vs. the frightened Luigi). The comments are amusing as well! 16:46, 23 September 2011 (EDT) again. by a half vote, luigi goes down. REALLY.Pokémonultimate (talk) 16:05, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

Round 105: Master Hand glitch vs. Black hole glitch[edit]

Playable Master Hand SSBM 2.png
Master Hand glitch
Playable Master Hand SSBM 2.png

21.5 to 11
Black hole glitch Ultranova.png
Two of Melee's most infamous glitches, one relatively new and fascinating, the other notorious for years and more taxing on the system. Will the bug of infinite recursion or the apparently acceptable lack of input validation come out on top?

Votes for Master Hand glitch[edit]

  1. You need four people to do the Black Hole glitch. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:18, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. I think it was everyone's wish that they wanted to play as Master Hand at one point while playing Melee. Also, I love the idea of a glitch taking almost seven years to be found. ReiDemon 21:26, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. Never was able to pull off the black hole glitch. I don't know if its hard or I'm just stupid, but I've heard black hole can screw up your game anyway. So yeah, Master Hand FTW. -- 21:58, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. What Black Hole Glitch? 22:56, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. Best glitch ever. Blindcolours TONDA GOSSA. 22:57, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  6. I wrote much of the MHG article. DokteurPain99 23:04, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. This glitch is so awesome it took seven years to find. It was worth the wait. Squishyfrog Chat 23:09, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  8. ..... The secret number WolfHeadSSBB.png well? 00:03, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  9. With this glitch, you'll be able to control one of the best bosses of all time. What can you do with the Black Hole Glitch? Die. Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) CaptainFalconHeadSSBB.png 03:29, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  10. It's a simple decision for me, the Master Hand glitch lets you play as the Master Hand without the use of any cheat codes or devices. -- 04:52, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  11. Argh, another stinking half-vote loss for Luigi! :'( It drives me crazy! Anyways, it sounds cool to play as Master Hand. -- 07:49, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  12. I always wanted to play as master hand and it only requires one controller;while the black hole glitch doesn't sound very amusing and it's more on the cheating side than master hand(it can still be beat through stamina mode in multiplayer)and it's more difficult to preform enspecially from requiring more than one controller with the usual four. 10:57, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  13. Let's see, playing as an undefeatable character whose been stated to only toy with the Smash World characters, or a black hole. Jeeze, this is actually a tough one. My vote goes for the hand. 25T16File:HitboxEffect(Flame).png|20pxIt’s a me! 11:58, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  14. ATTENTION FUTURE VOTERS FOR LUIGI: SIGN ALL COMMENTS AND PUT NUMBER SIGNS BEFORE THEM SO LUIGI WILL NEVER LOSE BY A HALF VOTE EVER AGAIN!!! p.s. the only thing that the black hole cant kill is master hand. self-explanatory.Pokémonultimate (talk) 16:15, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  15. Yay. 14:44, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
  16. Master Hand could probably flick away a blackhole. Mastersword (talk) 19:19, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
  17. I use this glitch when there's nothing better to do. Link won the last popularity vote narrowly, so translation: pick on Link some more...with Master Hand! Wah hah hah hah! 10:01, 28 September 2011 (EDT)
  18. Black holes are dumb. 7:48, 28 September 2011 (EDT)Super Luigi Bros. (talk) 19:50, 28 September 2011 (EDT)
  19. Go Master Hand!!!!!!!--Thejfh1999 (talk) 17:56, 29 September 2011 (EDT)
  20. They're both very trippy, hilarious glitches to pull off, but I vote Master Hand because he can be controlled. Hawk 21 (talk) 18:55, 29 September 2011 (EDT)
  21. Let's see, we have being a hand that toys with the smashers and tests them in combat, and in brawl is MASTER OF AN ENTIRE FRICKIN' WORLD, versus the swirly thing. No contest. 19:49, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

Half votes[edit]

  1. smash x 5432 master hand is the best glitch in melee :) because he's so big that I can kill all my foes 26 September 2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by smash x 5432 (talkcontribs) at 20:21, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

Votes for Black hole glitch[edit]

  1. Beware! 21:48, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. While playing as Master Hand is pretty cool the Black hole glitch looks epic as. 22:23, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. What else in Smash Bros. can rack up over 999% of damage in a second? Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 23:17, 23 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. Aesthetic Amazement. The supernova in particular is a sight to behold, and I like the idea of collective projectiles. Nice projectile collection you got there, player, but needs more Megavitamin. >Throws Megavitamin< My collection has grown! >Snorlax ruins collection< DAMMIT ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 05:22, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. Poor Luigi... Anyway, CREEPED! -(C•.•)-Lucas-IV- A Creeper! Sh-BOOMLucas alive.PNG 08:29, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  6. It's over 999! --HavocReaper48 11:00, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. It's more excitingFloor2000x (talk) 13:05, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  8. It's unique in all the different ways you can make a black hole. Mr G&W's sausages, Ness' PK Fire, Peach's turnips, etc. But don't overdo it, otherwise your Gamecube will spontaneously combust and explode into pieces. --FireEmblemFan275 (talk) 14:09, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  9. The GCN just can't handle this glitch's pure awesomeness.-Ivy73002MS.png 16:34, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
  10. Not really the glitch person, but the black hole glitch looks cooler. Master Hand is too easy in classic and boss battles98.116.4.145 16:12, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
  11. I do not have melee but looks cool. I like both, but i chose this for some weird feeling. Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 20:34, 25 September 2011 (EDT)


Anon: That's false; there's a method that allows the Black Hole Glitch to occur through the use of two players, as can be seen on the respective page. That's actually the method I initially did until I found my third controller. ReiDemon 21:28, 23 September 2011 (EDT)

lol, my last round vote lost by a half point again. ..... The secret number WolfHeadSSBB.png well? 00:05, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

Please stop stating the obvious. Blindcolours TONDA GOSSA. 00:08, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

DP99, it's such a surprise seeing you vote for the Master Hand glitch. I never knew you cared anything for it. [/Sarcasm] Mr. Anon (talk) 00:22, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

Shame the image representing The Black Hole Glitch doesn't show it off that well. Is anyone able to upload an image of the Supernova? ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 05:27, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

I've uploaded one myself now, I'm just waiting for Toomai's permission to add it. ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 08:34, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

Wow, this is actually kind of cool, two glitches against one another. 25T16File:HitboxEffect(Flame).png|20pxIt’s a me! 12:00, 24 September 2011 (EDT)