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Round 231: Samus vs. Sonic[edit]

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40 to 43.5
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They curl up into balls and roll around at high speed. They have nemeses that refuse to go away. They're of opposite colours and personalities. Which one's the winner?

Votes for Samus[edit]

  1. Probably just a quick vote of some sort. Nothing much to say. Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Keyboard 14:26, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  2. Samus is underrated, Sonic pisses me off. Any voter who mentions "Yur too slow" in their voting will die a horrible painful death.Qwerty da beast Nessytrewq.jpg 15:24, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  3. --Myth Myth Kirby.png 15:42, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  4. Berrenta (talk) 21:14, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  5. Sonic has much better mobility and slightly better KO moves, but Samus isn't too far behind in the latter field, and her projectile game mitigates her problems in the former. She overall has better endurance (especially horizontally) and is a lot more fun to use. I also think Samus's aerials (except for b-air) are better. Blue Ninjakoopa 21:24, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  6. Neither were great to me in Brawl, but at least Samus was pretty fun in Melee. 23:17, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  7. Sonic is complete crap in Brawl, plus, Samus has only made one "meh" game, while Sonic has made at least three TERRIBLE games. Laikue (talk) 23:49, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  8. 00:39, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  9. I hate sonic in brawl. His moves were boring,weak and cheap. But samus has much more to show for. And if we're talking actual character comparison, I like sonic, but he can be annoying *cough*YOU'RE TOO SLOW*cough* and at least samus didn't have a game made in 2006 that almost ruined the franchise! TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 08:44, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  10. I never liked Sonic nor Samus (besides Zamus) in Smash, but outside of Smash, Samus wins, no contest. Her series consists of games that are actually, you know, good. Even Other M, the game that "almost ruined the series", has its fans. DoctorPain99 09:19, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  11. Samus is my most favourite Nintendo character. Her moves are nice, Many projectiles, her recovery is Ok and she has the longest grab range.Vegeta8001 (talk) 11:49, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  12. 03:08, 29 July 2014 (EDT)
  13. Because Samus is awesome and Sonic is slightly less so. ScizorSteelix 17:15, 29 July 2014 (EDT)
  14. I've actually been playing a lot of Samus in Project M lately. Aside from that, I've never been a true fan of Sonic, both in his games and in his movepool, and some parts of his fanbase are just sickening to look at. --Timson622222 (talk) 18:00, 29 July 2014 (EDT)
  15. Just... Better.--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 02:49, 30 July 2014 (EDT)
  16. Both of them are pretty bad in Brawl, but Samus is a far better in my eyes. Except for Other M. Also, I like the Metroid series infinitely more than Sanic the Hegh. ...Except for Other M. Nymbare and his talk 21:27, 30 July 2014 (EDT)
  17. C'mon, Nintendo. Bring back the bikini-endings! MeatBall104; Prepare your anus! 10:25, 3 August 2014 (EDT)
  18. I would choose a badass bounty hunter over a blue hedgehog any day. N6TJA (talk) 11:03, 3 August 2014 (EDT)
  19. See vote no. 2. Plus, Sonic's rather predictable and he really can't KO very well. 18:55, 3 August 2014 (EDT)
  20. I favor Samus in character. I don't play either of these in Smashes, but I play Metroid more often then Sonic, sooo... Samus. Stan the Man (talk) 13:45, 6 August 2014 (EDT)
  21. Dat maneuverability tho. --Torden (talk) 23:57, 6 August 2014 (EDT)
  22. Samus has much more combat experience, the armor to survive sonic's speed, as well as the speed boost item that eliminates sonic's biggest advantage. Samus, any day. --ZephyrOmega (talk) 20:19, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
  23. Metroid is better. PikaSamus (talk) PikaSamus 13:34, 8 September 2014 (EDT)
  24. Samus is a lot more powerful and Ifind her easier to control Zogvquit (talk) 08:12, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
  25. I enjoy Samus better. IMO, she's got the better games, is the better character, and is more fun to play than Sonic in Brawl. Beatle (talk) 01:59, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
  26. Obvious choice. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 17:49, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
  27. "SONIC'S THE NAME, SPEED'S MY GAME--" *cue Speed Booster* (yes I know she doesn't use Speed Booster in Smash but whatever) CrazyAl02(talk) 23:54, 30 September 2014 (EDT)
  28. Takava (talk) 22:53, 1 October 2014 (EDT)
  29. Samus has faced down enormous galactic space monsters and slain pirates, and all sonic has done is save some woodland creatures. Poweron721 (talk) 09:14, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
  30. Samus 4 Lyfe :{3 SmashBros (talk) 11:36, 11 October 2014 (EDT)
  31. Not even a contest. 00:35, 16 October 2014 (EDT)
  32. She has more experience. 14:53, 19 October 2014 (EDT)
  33. More fun to play as Samus, attacks hurts more, doesn't suicide from too much speed (not that good with the recovery tho) Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 10:56, 23 October 2014 (EDT)
  34. Aside from Metroid being a better overall series than Sonic, Samus is my all time favorite character. She's badass, sexy and my hero. And Plus in Smash 4 she's not a clunky piece of garbage like Sonic. Enderwoman (talk) 20:01, 26 October 2014 (EDT)
  35. As a Brawl and SSB4 player, Sonic is just way to boring in his design compared to Samus (I mean how many of his moves involve him rolling up into a ball to attack). Samus is just too bad-ass in this game compared to Sonic. Also, Prime is a thing.DungTrio43 (talk) 21:18, 26 October 2014 (EDT)
  36. She is easier to play, stronger and overall better. I won many times thanks to Charge Shot. Sonic doesn't have anything like this. 07:26, 10 November 2014 (EST)
  37. 11:06, 22 November 2014 (EST)
  38. Samus is a much stronger character than Sonic. User:Unknown5145 16:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


  1. Feel like making a half-vote because Samus is more fun in Smash, but as characters I don't really favor either one. FirstaLasto 11:17, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  2. Half vote cuz I don't care for either, but in appearence, Samus winz! 18:00, 8 August 2014 (EDT)
  3. Don't really play as either in Brawl, but Samus has a giant laser. Sonicmario22 (talk) 11:21, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
  4. Half vote for Samus cause she's very strong other than Sonic, but Sonic is a decent character for me, just not strong enough. Giratina 720 19:12, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

Votes for Sonic[edit]

  1. Sonic is fast! Speed and agility beat technology anytime. He has more allies than Samus, and he looks cooler. 14:33, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  2. Sonic doesn't need weapons to fight. He can beat any enemy using his own speed and skill. 15:28, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  3. Sonic is third party! SeanWheeler (talk) 15:55, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  4. "Yur too slow" ChuckNorris24.png 21:05, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  5. Love playing as him in Brawl Minus. *repeated pummels* YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO SLOW YOU'RE TOO... Awesomelink234 (talk) 21:45, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
  6. I met Wizzrobe and happily got wrecked by his Sonic in our Project M friendlies. Chilex (talk) 00:13, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  7. Charge Shot can't be THAT weak. :|O Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 08:55, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  8. 11:21, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  9. Now i'll show you!Samus is ko'ed!MetaMewtwoSoul600px-Yveltal.png' 11:25, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  10. Sonic is the fastest thing alive User:Xyle 12.55, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  11. As I have never played a Metroid game and have played many Sonic The Hedgehog games, I am voting for Sonic solely because I am more familiar with him. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 15:11, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
  12. Sonic is so awesome, even though hes from another game company, Sonic feels at home in Smash. Not only that, hes Sega's main mascot! Is Samus Nintendo's main mascot?.....-Kaizer24.185.135.102 00:27, 1 August 2014 (EDT)
  13. Sonic is awesome, blue and fast. He needs no weapons to fight and I tend to prefer speedier characters. Zwzchow (talk) 11:22, 11 August 2014 (EDT)
  14. Sonic is my main in Brawl and Project M. I like Sonic as both a character and a fighter. He has the fastest running speed, a great recovery, and, in Project M, a very satisfying meteor smash. (Plus, I'm a huge fanboy.) --Aqua Shield (talk) AquaShield.png 01:19, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
  15. picking sonic because that thing on the other side isn't zero suit samus and i'm kinda shit at power suit samus CLI (talk) 15:00, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
  16. Closest thing to Big the Cat. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 11:47, 3 September 2014 (EDT)
  17. Do I really need to explain anything? --Sonicyay2 (talk) 18:26, 6 September 2014 (EDT)
  18. Live & Learn! Hanging on the edge of tomorrow! The Super Smasher (talk) 03:33, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
  19. Sonic is easier to use in my opinion and he looks cooler. 17:47, 14 September 2014 (EDT)Anonymous
  20. Heres a good challenge: all players are sonic in a clear, giant, curry, fast, and heavy brawl on battlefield. No stopping allowed.Littlesquirtle (talk) 10:15, 16 September 2014 (EDT)
  21. Sonic the Hedgehog is the Fastest Character on the SSB History, Not Palutena the Goddess Igor The Mii (talk) 16:56, 16 September 2014 (EDT)
  22. Not that I really like Sonic, I like him more than Samus. Because I suck at Samus. ...a new NuttaNutta's Mallo sig.pngis approaching... 18:27, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
  23. YOU'RE TOO SLOW! >:) Smash Master 13:01, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
  24. With that super-speed, he can get in and out of combat without taking too much damage! 01:22, 29 September 2014 (EDT)
  25. Faster, can't rack up damage as well, but, he's Sonic. 12:02, 14 October 2014 (EDT)
  26. SSSSOOOONNNNIIIICCCC!!!! You're too SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWW!!!! I am JigglyPurin. (talk) 17:14, 16 October 2014 (EDT)
  27. Sonic is the best {HaloHero14 (talk) 10:51, 23 October 2014 (EDT)}
  28. SONIC ROCKS! --Scottsc (talk) 18:13, 26 October 2014 (EDT)
  29. I share a birthday with Sonic, so he's kinda special to me. Plus, I'm not too good at Metroid games anyway. Mistiryshak (talk) 18:23, 26 October 2014 (EDT)
  30. I find Sonic pretty good at battles, he's actually one of my mains. --EpiNa8 00:47, 3 November 2014 (EST)
  31. I like playing as Sonic more. LimitCrown (talk) 17:12, 3 November 2014 (EST)
  32. Sonic is the BEST & greatest 07:52, 6 November 2014 (EST) 20:51 6 November 2014
  33. Gotta go fast! 15:27, 10 November 2014 (EST)
  34. GO GO SOOONNIIIC!! 05:03, 11 November 2014 (EST)18:01 November 11(EST)
  35. Super Sonic style!!!!!{Psychninja14 (talk) 11:25, 18 November 2014 (EST)}
  36. Sonic is, by far, the better character. His speed can allow him to avoid Samus's weaponry, and he can go Super. Aidan the Gamer 11:40, 18 November 2014 (EST)
  37. ur 2 sloooowww -nintendofan100111 10:11, 21 November 2014 (EST)
  38. hes from my favorite game franchise, he's my main in brawl, and, lest we forget, your too slow. The Omega Smasher (talk) 22:36, 22 November 2014 (EST)
  39. Sonic is waaay better than Samus. He's faster, stronger, plus, hes like 8 spots ahead of Samus in the tier list. The Master HandIt's time. MasterHandSig.jpg 09:20, 12 December 2014 (EST)
  40. Yay, 40th vote! Besides, Sonic is way cooler. infernape612 22:47, 12 December 2014 (EST)


  1. While Samus is/was (depending on the time you read this) the strongest character in the game, Sonic is the speediest, and after they buffed him in SSB4 and Mega Man taking Samus' place, Sonic is better by a landslide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meman1990 (talkcontribs) 07:21, July 27, 2014 (EDT)
  2. Sonic is faster than Samus and can transform into Super Sonic. Plus: You're to slow —Preceding unsigned comment added by Limulla (talkcontribs) 15:49, August 1, 2014‎ (CDT)
  3. i like sonic the hedgehog better than super metroid and i like dark-ish blue better than light-ish orange and sonic's faster and very ..."link type of cute" so sonic is definately my pick:D—Preceding unsigned comment added by Valehd (talkcontribs) 10:22, August 9, 2014 (CDT)
  4. Sonic is an instantly recognizable popculture icon. Samus, while popular with the gaming crowd, is not nearly as iconic or recognizable as the Blue Blur. Sonic's natural speed and strength makes him a much better character than Samus' tech-equipped from head-to-toe gear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:46, 11 October 2014 (EDT)
  5. He's still waiting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:43, 26 October 2014 (EDT)
  6. Trouble keeps you running faster, save the planet from disaster, spinning through a world in motion, take it all the way!—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:37, 3 November 2014 (EDT)
  7. Sonic has a speed advantage and he's more well known. I like him a lot, so he'll just keep rollin' around at the speed of sound for me I guess —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbsim52 (talkcontribs) 12:44, 22 November 2014 (EST)


The blue text box for Sonic makes it to read. Maybe use a different, less bright color?Nuclear Hand (talk) 09:59, 8 August 2014 (EDT)

It's hard to chooseThegoldenminecart (talk) 5:36' 10 August 2014 (EDT)
My signature is there, but it blends completely into the background. --Aqua Shield (talk) AquaShield.png 01:53, 13 August 2014 (EDT)

Sob... I can't vote between them! So putting this here instead (sorry). I love them both!!! Samus is the awesome super-woman with super-armor that saves everyone time and again and some of my favorite games (and my best character), and Sonic is my childhood hero and some of my favorite games (and ties for my 2nd best character). Oh, and since you all insist on forgetting, Samus can run about as fast as Sonic a la Speed Boost, though not in Smash (Wish we could Shinespark in Smash as well). Jarie Suicune (talk) 13:50, 10 September 2014 (EDT)

When is dis gonna change? 17:01, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

This has been here for about 4 months. Please can someone change it? 353.png Mesuxelf 19:22, 9 October 2014 (EDT)

The wiki is currently in a high red status. To make people focus more on helping the wiki, it won't change until we get back to yellow, which is probably in 6 months. I do agree that it should be changed, though. It's been on for a while. Qwerty (talk) 13:40, 11 October 2014 (EDT)

Are votes for this still being accecptedSmashmaster567 (talk) 11:09, 8 November 2014 (EST)

This fight is still the current fight, so votes are being accepted at the moment. Rtzxy Reflect.jpg Reflect!!! 11:55, 8 November 2014 (EST)

Wonder how I'm gonna die a "horrible painful death". :p Smash Master 00:39, 23 November 2014 (EST)

OK, the wiki is at yellow. Can we please have a new fight? Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 20:43, 7 December 2014 (EST)

The plan is to up a new fight at the usual time (late Friday/early Saturday). Toomai Glittershine ??? The Irrepressible 20:38, 8 December 2014 (EST)

I was wondering. Since now that we have Conquest mode on Smash 4 and the fact that it acts similarly with Smash Arena (and it is perhaps more popular), will Smash Arena still be relevant? Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Ball 22:06, 8 December 2014 (EST)

I think they're different enough for this to survive, primarily in that conquests can only have playable characters, whereas Smash Arena can have stages, items, etc. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Multifaceted 22:14, 8 December 2014 (EST)
Not to mention bosses (my suggestion is in my talk page). Derpguy 64 (talk) 08:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)Derpguy 64

It's been more than half a year (7 months, to be precise). I honestly don't care who wins, but at a 40 to 42.5 score (with mah boi leading), I think it's fair to say this thing needs to end sometime soon. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 11:37, 12 December 2014 (EST)

The battle went way overtime. How stupid that Sonic won due to making this battle way too long. Pathetic, editors! 22:04, 16 December 2014 (EST)

Says the IP that started editing today and hasn't made any real contributions. Don't go around insulting other editors just because you're unhappy about the outcome of a match. Laikue (talk | contribs) 22:38, 16 December 2014 (EST)

Round 232: Onett vs. Fourside[edit]

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23 to 24
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These two masses of buildings are of significantly different population density - and altitude of fighting. One's based on horizontal sections and runaway drivers, the other on vertical shafts and runaway UFOs. Which capitalizes?

Votes for Onett[edit]

  1. I prefer Onett, mainly because I've never played Fourside. I actually like Magicant best though. XD 10:20, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  2. Onett is better because Onett. Rtzxy Reflect.jpg Reflect! 10:26, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  3. After almost a 6 month hiatus, we finally get to vote again in a new round on Smash Arena. I can't wait for the three way smash games round because I would love to hear everyone's opinions on the three games (although Melee might win over Brawl this time though. :P). Anyways, I vote for Onett because Pollyanna is my favorite music in the EarthBound franchise. The music and the stage itself reminds me of my life back in California. Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Calvin and Hobbes 10:39, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  4. You can't accidentally fall down between buildings here. 'Nuff said. Takava (talk) 16:20, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  5. What Takava said. Plus, I like the music in it better, and the fact that it appears in 3 Smash games is more than enough to prove that it is better. :P TepigSprite.pngTepig (talk) 16:32, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  6. I've (sadly) never played Melee, so I'll have to give it to Onett. Als- OH NO THE TAXI RosalinaU (talk) 22:01, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  7. You can play Smiles and Tears here in SSB4, not to mention the Onett Winters Theme. 'Nuff said. SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 08:47, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  8. it has been here since melee. {Psychninja14 (talk) 18:52, 14 December 2014 (EST)}
  9. It's appeared in every game. Plus it's harder to die on. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 19:01, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  10. Never played melee 04:11, 15 December 2014 (EST)
  11. @Nutta Butta: Super Smash Bros. says hi. Anyway, I like Onett due to the sign that talks about the black van being driven by "this guy" racing around town. PikaSamus (talk) PikaSamus 11:07, 15 December 2014 (EST)
  12. The music is way better, and I just like the overall atmosphere more. ChuckNorris24.png 17:57, 19 December 2014 (EST)
  13. 01:14, 22 December 2014 (EST)
  14. I like the music. (In EB, that is.) Plus it's the first stage in the series, and I just like the location. Darrman (talk) 13:30, 24 December 2014 (EST)
  15. I like it for having no lower blast line at all. After all the matches I viewed in the past, it's not like anyone needs a lower blast line for KOs. 19:52, 29 December 2014 (EST)
  16. I perfer Onett since its the most common returning stage plus I like the stage hazards on it, makes it useful to bari someone then let the cars bump into them. (Smashworker101 (talk) 18:57, 1 January 2015 (EST))
  17. one word: ATMOSPERE! 21:24, 4 January 2015 (EST)
  18. never played melee so... 19:08, 6 January 2015 (EST)
  19. Watch out for the Black Van! The Iliad (talk) 19:30, 9 January 2015 (EST)


  1. I think Onett is more classical to EarthBound Series —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 09:48, 13 December 2014
  2. Both maps are pretty tedious, but occasionally fun when you're not taking the game seriously. I guess the Pollyanna arrangement with the secondary soundtrack is the tie breaker for me.--Dinodomain (talk) 02:39, 16 December 2014 (EST)
  3. I prefer Onett because I am a wario main and he performs well on this stage:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:31, 19 December 2014 (EST)
  4. I love the music and the background... and pretty much everything else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 13:31, 20 December 2014 (EST)
  5. I love this stage, MAH BOI.... the music, the graphics, the colors, everything! Sure, Fourside looks cool and is pretty classic to EarthBound, but Onett is ***COOLER AND MUCH MORE CLASSIC!*** —Preceding unsigned comment added by PK Arby (talkcontribs) 16:31, 21 December 2014 (EST)
  6. I've never really liked either of these stages, so I'll put my half-vote here because the music sounds cool.Qwerty (talk) 15:24, 29 December 2014 (EST)
  7. I've never played on Fourside, but frankly, compared to the other Earthbound stages, it doesn't seem that interesting. Onett seems more inviting, and just all-around awesome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 09:26, 29 December 2014 (EST)
  8. I vote for Onett, because I actually like how you are forced to stick to the buildings & trees to avoid the cars. Plus, it has a more fun atmosphere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 18:28, 4 January 2015 (EST)

Votes for Fourside[edit]

  1. I feel that the cars of Onett force players to avoid/utilize its ground area excessively, changing normal gameplay mechanics. I still like both stages, though; I merely prefer Fourside. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 00:40, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  2. It hasn't refused to go away. RickTommy 02:13, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  3. It has a better aesthetic design, as well as being overall less campy(though not by much). I wish it would make a return. 03:10, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  4. This stage doesn't have walk-offs. Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 08:06, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  5. Though I never played on Fourside, I've seen it in action. It looks better aesthetically. Here's to hoping it comes back! Berrenta (talk) 10:32, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  6. Foursode is less annoying (dang cars) more interesting visually and just more fun overallThe Omega Smasher (talk) 19:01, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  7. I prefer stages that aren't walk-off. FirstaLasto 21:33, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  8. I personally find Onett to be a rather annoying stage due to the cars, and the overall cramped space. I don't have much to say about Fourside, but I do find it better. MeatBall104; Going :|O around the clock! 12:28, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  9. I've never really liked any of the EarthBound stages in the Smash series (with the exception of this one). In all honesty, however, I'd choose Fourside over the others in an instant. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 12:57, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  10. I was going to say exactly what FaLo said o3o DoctorPain99 19:19, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  11. Onett is a frustrating, campy, cramped stage that was never fun for me to play on, even back in my younger days. Fourside has a pretty interesting geometry and isn't a walk-off. I don't get why Onett keeps getting brought back. --Timson622222 (talk) 19:21, 14 December 2014 (EST)
  12. Fourside is a lot more fun to play on, and the scenery is slightly more pleasing. Onett can be annoying at times, especially when you're trying to maintain your ground in between the houses. There are also those overhangs actually being able to block jumps in Brawl, which makes escaping infinite jabs and chain throws just about impossible. Blue Ninjakoopa 05:45, 15 December 2014 (EST)
  13. Onett is way too cramped. Not very suitable for battle. This is probably the best Earthbound stage in my opinion, excluding Magicant. SmashBros (talk) 10:55, 15 December 2014 (EST)
  14. Bigger, no hazards, better for competitive play (which Melee was focused on a little), and just better overall. Derpguy 64 (talk) 12:16, 15 December 2014 (EST)Derpguy 64
  15. I can pronounce its name. --Meester Tweester (talk) 04:53, 17 December 2014 (EST)
  16. This stage should've been in Brawl and SSB4. Smash Master 08:04, 17 December 2014 (EST)
  17. I never really liked Onett for the sheer fact of it being brought back two too many times than I cared for, and the stage was pretty lackluster, with the cars being the only thing that saves it from being forgotten for me. Fourside, however was a stage that, despite its size, was fun to play on no matter when. Except for that event, Space travelers. AtomicGameAndWatch (talk) 17:36, 17 December 2014 (EST)
  18. I like Fourside, and I would have liked to see it as a familiar stage in Brawl. Mainly because it has so many camping spots. >:D The Arnge GreenMega.jpg I'm no rubble monkey! 13:41, 18 December 2014 (EST)
  19. I've only ever seen this in fan games (Super Smash Flash 2), but I really like the design and lack of cars. Littlesquirtle! I choose you!LittleSquirtleSig.png 09:30, 19 December 2014 (EST)
  20. --Myth Myth Kirby.png 09:52, 22 December 2014 (EST)
  21. Vote 353.png Mesuxelf 09:18, 24 December 2014 (EST)
  22. Would have much rather this be in Sm4sh than Onett - this one feels a LOT more viable for 8-player mode. 08:31, 31 December 2014 (EST)
  23. i think fourside is awesome because of the epic colors and the size. i don't like onett because of the wierdo-drivers and the little banner thingies on the drug store. i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk) 21:50, 5 January 2015 (EST)


  1. Fourside is a cool stage, Onett is a really fun stage. Both are very frustrating for different reasons. Onett has walk-off KOs and powerful stage hazards, as well as a layout that can lead to Up-Smash/tilt camping. Fourside has narrow holes (making it especially frustrating for its sole character; Ness), a spaceship platform that's obviously been waxed, and a layout and length that promotes all types of camping. For their good traits, there are many. Onett for example, has a good lay-out for 6-8 player smashes (one of the best in the game imo), good music, and just a fun atmosphere. But, I'm voting for Fourside because it has BETTER music, a real cool atmosphere (think Saphron City, but larger, more realistic and at night with aliens), would've been a great 8-player smash stage, and it has aliens, dammit! How cool is that? However, considering all things, I can only bring myself to give Fourside a half vote, as Onett gets a very close second in my book. Laikue (talk | contribs) 12:52, 13 December 2014 (EST)
  2. Watching the AI kill itself is pretty amusing. 17:56, 13 December 2014 (EST)


Yus! Smash Arena is back! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:57, 17 December 2014 (EST)

Round 233: Negative Zone vs. Peach Blossom[edit]

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Negative Zone
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29.5 to 8
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Rather than direct damage, these two Final Smashes focus on status shenanigans. Which overwhelms the other?

Votes for Negative Zone[edit]

This Final Smash is just ridiculous in every way, and I'm sad they changed it in SSB4. 10:34, 27 January 2015 (EST)

  1. Lol. FirstaLasto 12:09, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  2. Man, this trophy is just plain weird. :/ Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Heavy Weapons Guy 12:12, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  3. Negative Zone is the best. Smashworker101 (talk) 12:23, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  4. Lol, I don't like Peach! MeatBall104; The Bikini Inspector! >:D 12:30, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  5. Now what can beat the best Final Smash in the series? Laikue (talk | contribs) 15:00, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  6. This is pretty great. Imagine being able to do this in everyday life, like when you're stuck in a line, trapped in a crowd, trying to kidnap someone, or being kidnapped yourself. Also, this section was at the top. Littlesquirtle! I choose you!LittleSquirtleSig.png 19:08, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  7. Luigi Power 4ever. (Psychninja14 (talk) 11:55, 11 January 2015 (EST))
  8. In my opinion this is just a one-sided battle. This one is more affective, despite the fact that it has a set range, this one affects people even in mid-air, whereas Peach's Blossoms are relatively easy to avoid, and if you do avoid it (which any experienced smash player will) then you can steal her peaches. 13:22, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  9. Negative Zone! Negative Zone! Igor the Mii (talk) 16:39, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  10. Peach Blossom sucks. AW402 (talk) 17:22, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  11. Negative Zone can actually change the course of the game. Definitely one of the better Final Smashes. What can Peach Blossom do? Put you to sleep. Nuff said. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 23:09, 11 January 2015 (EST)
  12. I find the metaphor of Negative Zone to be quite interesting. Luigi has forever lived in the shadow of his brother, Mario, putting him in a depressed state. Mario has been featured in countless eponymous games while Luigi has had few, if any. I see Negative Zone as a physical manifestation of Luigi's sadness. Because Luigi's sadness is so vast and expansive, his Final Smash actually imposes his own pain and misery unto his opponents, for no one would willingly desire to suffer the effects of Negative Zone. The physical damage that the Final Smash deals to competitors is similar to the emotional horrors that plague Luigi every day of his miserable, wretched "life". He is so constantly overflowing with pain and depression that his negative feelings and emotions spill over onto his opponents upon successfully trapping them in Negative Zone. All that Peach's Peach Blossom does is grow some fruit and bore her opponents to sleep. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2015 (EST)
  13. Weegee! Weegee! Weegee! UltraSmasher402 (talk) 22:22, 13 January 2015 (EST)
  14. This explains Luigi's hatred of being Player 2 a lot more. Also I think this has more good effects than Peach Blossom. --EpiNa8 23:08, 13 January 2015 (EST)
  15. I was rather sad about the removal of this Final Smash. ChuckNorris24.png 20:27, 15 January 2015 (EST)
  16. Negative Zone is better overall. It is a little bit disappointing that Luigi's Final Smash was changed, but the Poltergust 5000 is also great. LimitCrown (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2015 (EST)
  17. Negative Zone+Fire Jump Punch=Instant KOAwesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 08:09, 16 January 2015 (EST)
  18. Man, it really is the best. 09:54, 17 January 2015 (EST)
  19. This won me a lot of casual matches, mostly because it never occurs to anyone that Luigi has never been about damage. He's about frustration. And this is the most frustrating final smash aside from Kirby's stage-spanning pot. Also, yeah, the gaining dark powers from living in Mario's shadow is a nice touch.WaveMotionSmash (talk) 10:43, 19 January 2015 (EST)
  20. I like this better. Smash Master 13:40, 19 January 2015 (EST)
  21. Negative Zone was one of the top 5 Final Smashes in Brawl in my opinion, as it nearly guaranteed you a KO if you were anywhere near the opponent. Peach Blossom was one of my most hated Final Smashes, however, as I figured it was useless since enemies can air/ledge camp with nothing but a slap on the wrist for the entire duration of the move, and they could just heal afterward with the peaches. I obviously don't think Peach Blossom is that bad now, but my vote's going to my favorite Final Smash when I was a casual player. --Timson622222 (talk) 00:23, 21 January 2015 (EST)
  22. I was hoping this was going to be a Negative Zone vs. Poltergust 5000 fight, I'm really curious which Final Smash people would prefer. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 03:36, 21 January 2015 (EST)
  23. Look at my username. Plus, Luigi is way, way, way better than Peach. No offense. Weegee Number 1! (talk) 21:15, 21 January 2015 (EST)
  24. My favorite part is using his Up B on sleeping or tripped opponents, and it's good to have the Flower effect on the side. It also has nice visual effects. I also appreciate the meaning behind it and Luigi's personality that Everyman or Nobody pointed out. Peach Blossom is helpful (even more so in SSB4), but boring in comparison. Nas160Pittsburgh Penguins 1992 logo.png Let's go Pens! 16:48, 23 January 2015 (EST)
  25. Peach Blossom can't put to sleep opponents that aren't on ground, and because of that I always dodge it and steal peaches. Plus, I like Negative Zone more than peach-growing lullaby. 13:53, 24 January 2015 (EST)
  26. Peach Blossom is not that good of a final smash. Personally, I like Poltergeist 5000, but Negative Zone is great too. User:Thestrategyman 9:37, 27 January 2015
  27. Weird is good... right? Kenniky SMASHROSTERSMALL.png 18:16, 29 January 2015 (EST)

Half votes[edit]

  1. Though this doesn't fit his character, it might just be the "trolliest" Final Smash in SSBB. SmashBros (talk) 15:15, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  2. I like the Poltergust 5000, but this is great too. It can screw up recoveries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loyoloy (talkcontribs) 12:02, 11 January 2015‎ (EST)
  3. Its just so RANDOM! Plus, peach blossom, in my opinion, is the least effective Final Smash —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 15:43, January 11, 2015 (CST)
  4. Negative Zone looks cooler but neither does damage. 22:56, 13 January 2015 (EST)
  5. i just like luigi! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beckitten27 (talkcontribs) 18:38, January 15, 2015 (CST)

Votes for Peach Blossom[edit]

  1. Meh. 14:20, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  2. Peach Blossom fits in with Peach's character quite well, while Negative Zone does not fit Luigi's character at all. MarioIsTheBest (talk) 14:52, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  3. 353.png Mesuxelf 17:48, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  4. I chose this one because the music is better when you do this final smash. And because it's a girl. The Iliad (talk) 21:31, 10 January 2015 (EST)
  5. Pretty much 2 and 4, but also because I like Peach a little bit more than Luigi. SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 19:19, 13 January 2015 (EST)
  6. Only because I hate Negative Zone 21:09, 18 January 2015 (EST)
  7. Peachy 00:12, 21 January 2015 (EST)
  8. I despise Negative Zone. Even when I use it its hard to tell what I'm doing because it messes with my camera. Peach Blossom, on the other hand, allows me to heal whenever I get my butt kicked as Peach (which is often). ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 17:21, 23 January 2015 (EST)


Geez, Everyman or Nobody, that's deep. Surprising people can make something that in-depth about a collection of pixels, but won't do it in real life. I love the way the world works. Littlesquirtle! I choose you!LittleSquirtleSig.png 19:27, 13 January 2015 (EST)

Hey, thanks. Deeper meaning can be found everywhere if one simply chooses to find it. And for the record, one could posit that "real life" is also just a collection of pixels. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 03:21, 17 January 2015 (EST)

um... how do i fix mine? Beckitten27 (talk) 20:57, 18 January 2015 (EST)

I think it's clear that we have a winner. Just saying. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 00:03, 19 January 2015 (EST)
Rule 12; comments about how one-sided the match is are not allowed. Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Character 00:06, 19 January 2015 (EST)
Well, excuuuuuuuuse me, princess.
In all seriousness, I really did not know that. My apologies. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 11:52, 19 January 2015 (EST)

When's this going to end? Just saying, I think we know the winner. I don't mean to break Rule 12 or anything, but yeah. Weegee Number 1! (talk) 21:17, 21 January 2015 (EST)

Round 234: Sing vs. Rest[edit]

Jigglypuff Sing Smash 3DS.jpg
Jigglypuff Rest Smash 3DS.jpg

6 to 26.5
Jigglypuff Rest Smash 3DS.jpg
Two moves that harness the power of drowziness to do completely different things - which snoozes the other?

Votes for Sing[edit]

  1. I Believe rest is useless, but sing can actually do something, put the opponent to sleep and SMASH ATTACK them. But you will have to get the enemy to high damage first though162.72.179.253 16:25, 12 February 2015 (EST)
  2. If I had to pick between leaving MYSELF vulnerable, or leaving SOMEONE ELSE vulnerable? I'd pick the opponent no question! MeatBall104; The balls are inert! 13:30, 31 January 2015 (EST)
  3. I never figured out how to use Rest, it never does anything except make Jigglypuff sleep like a lazy idiot. 15:38, 31 January 2015 (EST)
  4. Sing is easier to pull off, and while it does not do damage, it leaves the opponent vulnerable to be Smash Attack'd. EpiNa8EpiNa8 sig.jpgHiiiiii!!! 23:09, 2 February 2015 (EST)
  5. 02:01, 3 February 2015 (EST)
  6. Voting for Hungrybox's sing.[1]--Dinodomain (talk) 14:10, 10 February 2015 (EST)

Votes for Rest[edit]

  1. I'm using a Wigglytuff in Pokémon Omega Ruby, and it learned Rest but not Sing. These are my reasons. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 13:23, 31 January 2015 (EST)
  2. After school, Rest (naping) is pretty much what I do. I do not like how you have to wake up in the crack-a-dong every 6:30 on the weekdays to get ready for high school which starts at 7:30. Therefore I take a nap before I do homework after school so I can catch up on my sleep. Speaking of Sing, having to hear people sing "Let it go" millions of times just gets on my nerves. Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Asian 13:28, 31 January 2015 (EST)
  3. Snooze Smashworker101 (talk) 13:34, 31 January 2015 (EST)
  4. Sleeping is a more useful skill than singing. Laikue (talk | contribs) 17:12, 31 January 2015 (EST)
  5. This move is perfect for dis-Rest-pect. Oh, and the consequences for whiffing either one up until Smash 4 were about the same, so if I had to pick making someone sleep for a short time and risk them waking up immediately or blowing someone up and killing them at 20%, I'll pick the explosion. --Timson622222 (talk) 17:35, 31 January 2015 (EST)
  6. Sing has such a small hitbox and high ending lag that it isn't even useful. Either way, if sing does somehow land it leads to a free rest. 21:40, 31 January 2015 (EST)
  7. Sleep is lameGreninjaisbeast (talk) 00:10, 1 February 2015 (EST)
  9. See Hungrybox's use of the move. SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 00:01, 2 February 2015 (EST)
  10. TeamRest --Myth Myth Kirby.png 21:35, 4 February 2015 (EST)
  11. I'm not a Jiggly main by any sense of the word, but if I had to choose between putting the opponent to sleep for a couple seconds at best or OHKO at low percentages, it's no contest 73MPL4R (talk) 11:14, 2 February 2015 (EST)
  12. HBOX bflat (talk) 20:13, 2 February 2015 (EST)
  13. This can actually KO. Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 20:21, 2 February 2015 (EST)
  14. A good recovery move is often crucial to one living or dying after being knocked from the stage. Like Yoshi, Jigglypuff lacks any useful vertical recovery ability, other than jumping prowess. Rarely, if ever, are down special moves used for returning to the stage; conversely, up special moves pretty much always are. Sing, an up special move, is less than useless for getting back onto the stage, making it ineffective for recovering. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 21:03, 2 February 2015 (EST)
  15. Rest is better. LimitCrown (talk) 22:23, 2 February 2015 (EST)
  16. CHESTO BERRY OR BUST. FirstaLasto 12:36, 3 February 2015 (EST)
  17. zzzzz... AW402 (talk) 21:14, 3 February 2015 (EST)
  18. This kills faster than a bullet to the brain. And what's more badass than sending somebody flying into space by falling asleep? Nymbare and his talk 21:31, 3 February 2015 (EST)
  19. Killing in style.Loyoloy (talk) 21:15, 4 February 2015 (EST)
  20. Much more epic! Smash Master 13:34, 5 February 2015 (EST)
  21. Sleep is a beautiful thing. ChuckNorris24.png 22:13, 5 February 2015 (EST)
  22. Resting is nice when Jigglypuff uses this. Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 07:14, 6 February 2015 (EST)
  23. FALCON PAWNCH-wait, what? i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk) 21:47, 9 February 2015 (EST)
  24. Rest is the best for trolling, and the only real reason to choose the Jiggs. I know the hitbox is the eyes, it's not that hard of a concept. Sing just makes me embarrassingly SD when I try to recover. What kind of up b is a non-recovery move? --Meester Tweester (talk) 01:12, 11 February 2015 (EST)
  25. Rest Is The Falcon Punch Of Jigglypuff :P This Is First Voting Im Doing As Well Hyper Nintendo (talk) 01:49, 13 February 2015 (EST)
  26. It's not that bad of a powerful move that works effectively. 10:22, 19 February 2015 (EST)


  1. I can sum it up in one word: Ping!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:51, 31 January 2015 (EST)


So hard to choose...Rest is hard to land, but Sing is easy to land...but Rest can kill and Sing can't...this may be the only one where I choose not to vote due to the choice being hard. I remain neutral. AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNGAidan the Aura Master 09:54, 2 February 2015 (EST)

And may I ask how to use Rest? I mean, all it does is put Jiggly to sleep uselessly.... 15:43, 4 February 2015 (EST)

You gotta have Jiggly right in front of the opponent in order to land the hit. It's a pain in the ass to actually get it to work. AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNGAidan the Aura Master 10:14, 5 February 2015 (EST)

rest is the secret to my bro's victory i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk) 08:10, 10 February 2015 (EST)

With a thousand lies / And a good disguise / Hit ‘em right between the eyes / Hit ‘em right between the eyes / When you walk away / Nothing more to say / See the lightning in your eyes / See ‘em running for their lives --Meester Tweester (talk) 10:28, 11 February 2015 (EST)
lolwut i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk) 20:50, 28 February 2015 (EST)

Use Sing Then Rest Its A Perfect Combo Hyper Nintendo (talk) 01:08, 20 February 2015 (EST)

Round 235: Lakitu and Spinies vs. Excitebike vs. Infantry and Tanks[edit]

Infantry and Tanks Brawl.jpg

18.5 to 11 to 8
Three Assist Trophies that only appear as their original sprite forms - which mob of pixels wins out?

Votes for Lakitu and Spinies[edit]

  1. The unsung hero of Mario Kart. Laikue (talk | contribs) 17:43, 21 February 2015 (EST)
  2. Yes, I totally agree. 20:12, 21 February 2015 (EST)
  3. Lakitu is a character from a great series.MarioIsTheBest (talk) 11:57, 22 February 2015 (EST)
  4. Because I like Mario the best! MeatBall104; The Tomb Raider! 19:09, 23 February 2015 (EST)
  5. The other two are limited to attacks near the ground, but Lakitu can also hit opponents higher in the air. Seems more versatile in general. FirstaLasto 10:49, 24 February 2015 (EST)
  6. *insert fitting theme here* Igor the Mii (talk) 14:57, 24 February 2015 (EST)
  7. The Lakitu And Spinies assist trophy covers a larger area than Excitebikes and Infantry And Tanks, as it has influence in the air as well as on the ground. Everyman Or Nobody? (talk) 00:26, 25 February 2015 (EST)
  8. I personally love this assist trophy. Wavedash; (talk) 09:20, 27 February 2015 (EST)
  9. Everybody knows the Idoitic Poop Here right? Hyper Nintendo (talk) 04:54, 28 February 2015 (EST)
  10. i am more familiar with the mario series soooooo i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk) 20:55, 28 February 2015 (EST)
  11. He comes from the same series Luigi does. 15:50, 1 March 2015 (EST)
  12. When it comes to being a Mario Kart referee, count on him to start the race! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 13:59, 3 March 2015 (EST)
  13. He's one of my favorite characters to play as in Mario Kart. ChuckNorris24.png 18:39, 6 March 2015 (EST)
  14. I'm always glad to see this guy rescue me from falling of Rainbow Road!--Meowzers! (talk) 07:49, 11 March 2015
  15. This guy shows up in a Zelda game! A ZELDA GAME! The other two haven't even left their own series! -- 16:53, 12 March 2015 (EDT)
  16. Mario has been a staple of mine all my life. Rooting for Lakitu is no exception. --SonicHeadBlackSSB4-3.pngSpeed48 12:45, 13 March 2015 (EDT)
  17. Lakitu is especially good in mario kart 23:41, 16 March 2015 (EDT)

Half votes[edit]

  1. Who doesn't love this unsung ref?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 13:28, March 9, 2015 (CDT)
  2. Half vote because while I don't care for any of them, it's Mario Day, and I felt I had to vote. 14:43, 10 March 2015 (EDT)
  3. idk i just like them plus its a guy flying on a cloud throwing spiky turtles. what could be cooler? L-man —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 11:02, 14 March 2015 (EDT)

Votes for Excitebike[edit]

  1. It's hard to choose since I'm not a huge fan or either series (although of course I'm a fan of Mario, just not a really obsessed one) but I choose Excitebike because this vote is for FastLizard4. Dots (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The Saiyan 13:22, 21 February 2015 (EST)
  2. I'm more for the Mario series, but this Assist Trophy is just the best. SmashBros (talk) 13:42, 21 February 2015 (EST)
  3. ? Smashworker101 (talk) 17:15, 21 February 2015 (EST)
  4. I'll vote for the assistant trophy that killed me the most (Psychninja14 (talk) 11:39, 22 February 2015 (EST))
  5. Lakitu may be a playable character and the referee of Mario Kart. But at least Excitebike has its own track. AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNGAidan the Aura Master 08:36, 23 February 2015 (EST)
  6. Same as Psychninja14. 13:44, 23 February 2015 (EST)
  7. There's something about the Excitebike that makes me happy. Probably because they literally run over my enemies. EpiNa8EpiNa8 sig.jpgHiiiiii!!! 22:58, 4 March 2015 (EST)
  8. 353.png Mesuxelf 12:47, 7 March 2015 (EST)
  9. NOSTALGIA!!!!! 12:45, 13 March 2015 (EDT)
  10. Still love playing this today <3 F0rZ3r0F0r (talk) 16:33, 14 March 2015 (EDT)
  11. I love this assist trophy. It's sad it's not in Smash 4. SonicfanXD (talk)

Votes for Infantry and Tanks[edit]

  1. I would say this is a pity vote, but c'mon. It's your own personal army of cute little soldiers and tanks. What's not to like? RosalinaU (talk)
  2. 06:17, 24 February 2015 (EST)
  3. Because Advance Wars. --DarkPitIsUnderrated (talk) 06:54, 24 February 2015 (EST)
  4. personal army. Littlesquirtle! I choose you!LittleSquirtleSig.png 09:13, 24 February 2015 (EST)
  5. 02:22, 25 February 2015 (EST)
  6. guns (infantry and tanks) > motorcycles (excitebike) > turtles (lakitu) The Iliad (talk) 17:23, 26 February 2015 (EST)
  7. I was meaning to get into this series at some point. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 10:14, 28 February 2015 (EST)
  8. hahahahahahahahahahaha like who even likes lakitu anyway hahahahahahahahahahaha 22:57, 4 March 2015 (EST)


Personally, I don't like assist trophies. ElliottB1 (talk) 17:56, 21 February 2015 (EST)

And we care why? 13:27, 24 February 2015 (EST)]
There's no rule against commenting something like that, there's no need to be rude about it. Laikue (talk | contribs) 13:32, 24 February 2015 (EST)

Hello we may know the winner Hyper Nintendo (talk) 04:57, 28 February 2015 (EST)

why haven't i thought of that when i made my vote, meowzers? i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk) 10:26, 12 March 2015 (EDT)