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Round 116: Meta Knight vs. King Dedede[edit]

Meta Knight SSBB.jpg
King Dedede
King Dedede SSBB.jpg

19.5 to 21
King Dedede SSBB.jpg
Not completely on friendly terms with Kirby, never seen without their weapon of choice, and none too tasty - these two are more alike (and alike to Kirby) then either of them will admit. Will the plodding powerhouse or the streaking swordsman come through?

Votes for Meta Knight[edit]

  1. Haiyaiyaiyaiya! 21:11, 9 December 2011 (EST)
  2. YATATATATATATATATATATATATA! --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 21:44, 9 December 2011 (EST)
  3. BlindColours Boing.png 21:52, 9 December 2011 (EST)
  4. Metaknight is easily more powerful than King Dedede. 22:08, 9 December 2011 (EST)
  5. I prefer Meta Knight to Dedede. - Toa 95 (talk) 22:13, 9 December 2011 (EST)
  6. HOY Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 22:21, 9 December 2011 (EST)
  7. All the other characters in Brawl are OP. Please nerf them, Sakurai. As for Meta Knight, I don't thing he truly reflects the power that he wields in his games, so you might as well buff him. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 00:22, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  8. Meta Knight gives a Beta Fight. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 05:24, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  9. -- 06:46, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  10. My favorite character against one of my least favorite. Meta Knight is GOD TIER!!! ..... :) 15 days til Chrismas MarioHeadSSBB.png 09:14, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  11. Pure awesomeness! Yoshirocks341 YoshiHeadSSBB.png 09:25, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  12. Voting against one of my mains. that crazy Jt45fan (talk) 13:07, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  13. yes, meta knight's pretty overpowered in brawl, but this is popularity here. so this caped swordsman is much more beast than a fat penguin anyday. 08:10, 11 December 2011 (EST)BK
  14. Awesome knight with a mask, sword and BATWINGS! Who'd vote for a penguin with a hammer?Drakon64 CharizardHeadSSBU.png 09:23, 11 December 2011 (EST)
  15. [Meta Knight] Behold my power! (Spreads cape) KSSSHHHHOOOOOOMMMM [King DeDeDe] (screams and flies to space) WWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH! Nuff' said. 15:47, 11 December 2011 (EST)
  16. his destiny. And it's also mine. Minna, miteite edit! MeleeMarth01 MarthHeadSSBM.png 17:14, 11 December 2011 (EST)
  17. Meta Knight is one of the awesomiest characters in the entire series. He is so awesome, some people forgot that there's a Kirby under that mask. I enjoy playing as Meta Knight, and when I play as Meta Knight, I ALWAYS WIN!!! GO META-KNIGHT! Smasher49 (talk) 17:08, 12 December 2011 (EST)
  18. Hello! I speak with a spanish accent in the anime and i'm cooler than DDD. Yay. -- 10:43, 15 December 2011 (EST)
  19. Honestly, as a character in general, I love metaknight. Vincent TranscendantKirby-1.png 20:08, 16 December 2011 (EST)


  1. Fight Me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by LightningBlue (talkcontribs) 18:31, 14 December 2011 (EST)

Votes for King Dedede[edit]

  1. I like King DeDeDe and Meta Knight, and they're both one of my best characters, but I would go with King DeDeDe on this one.NavisAnoying (talk) 22:09, 9 December 2011 (EST)
  2. Vote for the underdog :PPKWaddleDee (talk) 22:11, 9 December 2011 (EST)
  3. The best character in the game just doesn't fit my play style. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 23:21, 9 December 2011 (EST)
  4. Meta knight is broken. While meta knight is cooler, dedede will just sit on him. 06:53, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  5. Meta Knight has been banned from all Brawl fights. Therefore, Dedede should win by default. ;) 09:07, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  6. Nice one, Siber. -- 10:31, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  7. He's fat. Floor2000x (talk) 19:41, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  8. Meta Knight will not show up in competitive play ever again. Tragic...TRAGIC!! 22:12, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  9. I prefer using him over Meta Knight. JamesHeartContainerIconSSB.png123 23:18, 10 December 2011 (EST)
  10. My number two main, with a bair I love to abuse. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 00:08, 11 December 2011 (EST)
  11. Pokémonultimate PokémonTrainerHeadSSBB.png Do a Barrel Roll! 01:04, 11 December 2011 (EST)
  12. In Brawl mains, i choose Meta. in SA i choose you! DEDEDE! Use BIG GAY DANCE :o Lucas-IV- CREEP MCLucas.png 03:47, 11 December 2011 (EST)
  13. "I love both characters. But if I have to chose one I'll chose King dedede."Smash X 5432 (talk) 08:22, 11 December 2011 (EST)
  14. Metaknight is not worthy of top tier position. --FireEmblemFan275 13:56, 11 December 2011 (EST)
  15. King Dedede should see more use once MK is banned next January. Mousehunter321 (talk·contributions) 16:08, 11 December 2011 (EST)
  16. Big Gay Dance. 'Nuff Said. --The Hornet 17:26, 12 December 2011 (EST)
  17. King Dedede FTW. He may be fat but..... He's fat. 03:22, 13 December 2011 (EST)
  18. He's fat, he dances... what else?Mastersword (talk) 03:02, 15 December 2011 (EST)
  19. He's a bawws 10:55, 15 December 2011 (EST)
  20. Wewt. 17:35, 15 December 2011 (EST)
  21. MK is way to overpowered. If I want to fight against/as someone, I actually want to have fun doing so. Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) CaptainFalconHeadSSBB.png 02:13, 16 December 2011 (EST)


HOY Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 22:21, 9 December 2011 (EST)

Please don't post stuff like that. BlindColours Boing.png 22:38, 9 December 2011 (EST)

@Vote #5 for DDD: Not yet. It won't be mandatory until, oh, let's say about a month from now. -- 06:37, 11 December 2011 (EST)

My vote successfully planted, and I still have all 4 fingers and toes........ Oh waitDrakon64 (talk) 21:12, 14 December 2011 (EST)

Round 117: Princess Peach's Castle vs. Castle Siege[edit]

Castle Siege
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8 to 21
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Aside from having "Castle" in the name, these stages don't actually have that much in common. But why should that stop them from being in a Smash Arena battle?

Votes for Princess Peach's Castle[edit]

  1. BlindColours Boing.png 23:52, 16 December 2011 (EST)
  2. 1. 4 Mario 2. This one stays on castle ground 3. I hate >>>>>! -- 06:33, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  3. I pity da... Oh, you get the point! 09:15, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  4. For the stage, castle siege. for popularity, this :o Lucas-IV- CREEP MCLucas.png 00:53, 18 December 2011 (EST)
  5. Master Hand is broken here. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 13:27, 18 December 2011 (EST)
  6. Drillshine infinites. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 17:34, 19 December 2011 (EST)
  7. Castle Siege isn't horrible, but I just don't like it very much. 12:05, 22 December 2011 (EST)
  8. Peachs fans unite!! We havent lost.. yet!! 07:32, 23 December 2011 (EST)

Votes for Castle Siege[edit]

  1. Don't really like either stages, but I'll choose this one on the basis of it having vastly superior music. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 23:50, 16 December 2011 (EST)
  2. Music=win like OT said, but I also like this stage. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 00:19, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  3. Goddamn music. --Fireemblemlogo.pngFan275 00:51, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  4. Cannot STAND music for <, plus tournament legality. Pokémonultimate PokémonTrainerHeadSSBB.png Do a Barrel Roll! 02:49, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  5. Ike FTW. This stage is awesome. 02:56, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  6. Refer to my userpage to read about my track record with Ganondorf here. Plus, the switch-activated platforms in Princess Peach's Castle really get in the way. Now, I'll be playing my free copy of Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones on 3DS :D Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 05:39, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  7. I'm not lettin Peach's Castle win. Not This TIIIIIIMMMMMEEE!!!!!Drakon64 CharizardHeadSSBU.png
  8. I like Peach's Castle, but I like Castle Siege more. 09:27, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  9. This fight happened to come up in the middle of a playthrough of Path of Radiance. -- 10:59, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  10. I always like something creative more than something that is almost just a plan stage.Yoshirocks341 YoshiHeadSSBB.png 11:01, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  11. Peach needs a security system, BIG TIME! 12:31, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  12. Castle Siege has no hazards to mess with players. Heh! 13:26, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  13. Firstly, I could of made my vote here earlier if my iPod did had the enter button. Secondly, despite my main losing to one of my least favorite characters in brawl, I would rather prefer a tournament legal stage than Peach's castle where its a stage with annoying bombs like Green Greens (SSBM). ..... :) 12 days til Chrismas MarioHeadSSBB.png 14:30, 17 December 2011 (EST)
  14. I like the music from both stages, and the seires, but Princess Peach's Castle will get no sympathy from me. My username says it all. Minna, miteite edit! MeleeMarth01 MarthHeadSSBM.png
  15. Catapults. That was all it took to win me over. 13:56, 18 December 2011 (EST)
  16. Dat music. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 13:57, 18 December 2011 (EST)
  17. "The Castle stage is one my favorites. because it has 3 stages in 1 place and it funer then Peach's Castle"Smash X 5432 (talk) 08:11, 20 December 2011 (EST)
  18. I always loved this stage not only because of it being a Fire Emblem stage (my fave series) or Marth´s home stage (because he´s my fave character besides Bowser), but also because of the music. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! (talk) 05:14, 21 December 2011 (EST)
  19. Blow everything up. Then to the canopys of the castle. Then to lava; lots of lava. (Princess Peach's Castle only has the exploding Banzai Bill) LightningBlue: Electric! 18:06, 21 December 2011 (EST)
  20. JUST want this to win. Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 22:35, 22 December 2011 (EST)
  21. Basically 3 in 1. Mastersword (talk) 19:41, 23 December 2011 (EST)


I really dont comment. Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 22:35, 22 December 2011 (EST)

Then don't. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 06:44, 23 December 2011 (EST)

Round 118: Home-Run Bat vs. Sandbag[edit]

Sandbag Trophy.jpg

11 to 14
Sandbag Trophy.jpg
You asked for it, and we deliver! It's a fight between one of the game's most powerful weapons and the stuffed dummy that enjoys taking one (or more) for the team! Will the hyper-offensive bat or the indestructable surprise mascot come out on top?

Votes for Home-Run Bat[edit]

  1. Stupidly overpowered weapon in Melee was stupidly fun to use. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 23:59, 23 December 2011 (EST)
  2. C'mon, guys? Why are you voting for a bag of sand over an item that causes an OHKO? DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 00:38, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  3. Seeing his loved ones die around him and being unable to join them, the fact that Sandbag cannot die has turned him into a great emotional wreck, to the point where he enjoys being smacked aroundin hopes that one day, it will cause it all to finally end. Home-run bat is working toward a great cause. -- 09:00, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  4. Ever had a high items match, with only home run bates on? It gets chaotic pretty quickly, and it's so much fun! Yoshirocks341 YoshiHeadSSBB.png 09:54, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  5. It does damage, while a Sandbag does not. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 13:14, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  6. Home-Run Bat, 'Tis Fun That, One swing, Brawl, you've won that, But Sandbag, That be a Grand Bag. It takes lots of bruisings, But this side is losing, So I choose simply to shun that. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 14:15, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  7. BlindColours Boing.png 14:36, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  8. Strike 1...Strike 2...and that Sandbag is outta here! 14:56, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  9. Bats Are awesome. I do feel sorry for the sandbag but he is kinda sucky. 16:30, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  10. Home Run Bat hits the sandbag, not the other way. Mastersword (talk) 03:52, 26 December 2011 (EST)
  11. Home run bat all the way 'cause one, extreamly high launch if used in a smash attack an two, also overpowered if thrown at the target. Metoxchu! (talk) 08:52, 29 December 2011 (EST)

Votes for Sandbag[edit]

  1. Sandbags pwn! =D 23:15, 23 December 2011 (EST)
  2. Home-run Bat may be the best item, but Sandbag is too awesome of a character. I love the Sandbag. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 23:16, 23 December 2011 (EST)
  3. Sandbag is the cheapest character because he does not die. The blast line fails to recognize his death, and does not unleash a light column. He is capable of living forever and stalling with his invisibile damage percentage. MegaTron1XD:p 23:42, 23 December 2011 (EST)
  4. In Melee the Home Run Bat can be destroyed, but Sandbag cannot. In other words, if the HRB and Sandbag keep colliding, the HRB will eventually be destroyed while the Sandbag will merely feel ticklish. This is proof that Sandbag is stronger than the HRB. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 00:12, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  5. Use Critical Hit to it, it will not die :o Lucas-IV- CREEP MCLucas.png 00:16, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  6. Home Run Bat=Too Slow. The Sandbag usually releases a Smash Ball (Yes!) along with many other items. LightningBlue: Electric! 01:08, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  7. Sandbag is unkillable, it even enjoys being hit by the Home-run Bat. 06:36, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  8. He might not pack a punch, but he sure knows how to take one. MeleeMarth01Merry Christmas! MarthHeadSSBM.png 12:24, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  9. Why not? Its stare is oddly hypnotic.Drakon64 CharizardHeadSSBB.png
  10. The HRB is not completely the ultimate weapon, as DK can DI out of a Home Run swing via Spinning Kong. And I feel sorry for the sandbag too. ..... towmmarow is Chrismas MarioHeadSSBB.png 14:30, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  11. It endlessly spawns useful items. What could be more useful than the useful item that spawns useful things that are very useful?(I dare you to use the word useful more times in a sentence) 19:44, 24 December 2011 (EST)
  12. they are invincible and give food Floor2000x (talk) 21:11, 26 December 2011 (EST)
  13. gives amazing items, amazingly invincible, and stays amazingly cute the whole time. what more can u ask for? 21:42, 27 December 2011 (EST)BK
  14. In the Home-Run Contest, the Home-Run bat abuses the Sandbag. You have to feel sorry for the Sandbag.PKWaddleDee (talk) 21:24, 29 December 2011 (EST)PKWaddleDee


Basically both items are useful, but the charge for the Home-Run Bat takes way too long. The voters for the Home-Run Bat do have a point, but based on their effectiveness, the Sandbag is superior. LightningBlue: Electric! 01:11, 24 December 2011 (EST)

Read rule #12. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 01:21, 24 December 2011 (EST)

Odd how they don't mention the Home-Run Contest in the description. Isn't that a little Importent ?Drakon64 CharizardHeadSSBB.png

Can someone fix my vote? I tried to, but it didn't work. BlindColours Boing.png 14:40, 24 December 2011 (EST)
Its already fixed. ..... towmmarow is Chrismas MarioHeadSSBB.png 14:43, 24 December 2011 (EST)

I love all these item fights, especially when they're both Smash Bros. series original items, like this one. MeleeMarth01Merry Christmas! MarthHeadSSBM.png 16:36, 24 December 2011 (EST)

Round 119: Meta Knight vs. Ike[edit]

Meta Knight SSBB.jpg
Ike SSBB.jpg

16.5 to 18.5
Ike SSBB.jpg
They share golden swords, but that's about it - one relies on lightning-fast precision strikes, while the other is more of a slow-swinging powerhouse. Which end of the spectrum will overcome the other?

Votes for Meta Knight[edit]

  1. I can't believe MK lost to a fat penguin. So now I will help him return to glorious glory!!! 21:08, 30 December 2011 (EST)
  2. Meta Knight - "Now that I've been banned, I have nowhere to live, no money, nothing to eat..." Ike - "You'll get no sympathy from me."Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 21:29, 30 December 2011 (EST)
  3. HiyayayayayayaWarp Star1.jpgT.c.w7468 21:48, 30 December 2011 (EST)
  4. JamesHeartContainerIconSSB.png123 08:36, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  5. MK still needs some love! BlindColours Boing.png 14:00, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  6. Please read my other comments relating to Meta Knight for more information. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 15:52, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  7. ok, they're both swordsman so theyve got more range than some other characters.. meta knights fast and ike's slower. however, ike's more powerful. but i think that meta knight can rack up the damage quickly and maneuver better than ike can damage in the couple of blows that he lands. 17:01, 31 December 2011 (EST)BK
  8. Meta Knight will no longer be in competitive tourneys, but he will exit as the king of games! Heh! 18:26, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  9. Im really getting sick of Ike's overwhelming popularity......Drakon64 CharizardHeadSSBB.png 00:19, 1 January 2012 (EST)
  10. He is one of my main. :o Lucas-IV- CREEP MCLucas.png 03:12, 1 January 2012 (EST)
  11. If you look at the tier list Meta Knoght is WAAY higher than Ike, also it's impossible to beat the best, that's why it is the best, cause it beats all others! :D [[User:Metoxchu| User talk:Metoxchu
  12. Meta Knight- I am banned, I have no friends except for dots due to being overrated. Ike- Oh yeah, I so popular and underrated, I have the fans, the girls, and everything!! You get no sympathy from me!!!! Dots- So yes, I hate show offs and also due to being main vs least favorite character. ..... Happy New Year MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png 23:16, 1 January 2012 (EST)
  13. Meta Knight got wings. WINGS. A FREAKING WINGS (☉_☉) Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 07:18, 2 January 2012 (EST)
  14. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.)☆ 07:18, 2 January 2012 (EST)
  15. Sure, Meta Knight is banned, but he is in the GOD tier, while Ike is in the F tier.PKWaddleDee (talk) 15:07, 4 January 2012 (EST)PKWaddleDee
  16. METAH KNIGHT!!!!!!!!! Sure, I stink with him, but at least I can recover!


  1. Meta Knight is always superb! He's got skills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:07, 1 January 2012

Votes for Ike[edit]

  1. We like Ike! 21:08, 30 December 2011 (EST)
  2. FE character=win. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 21:10, 30 December 2011 (EST)
  3. The main shall win. MegaTron1XD:p 21:14, 30 December 2011 (EST)
  4. He's in fact the only character in the whole Fire Emblem series that is a main character (and therefore, a character of the "Lord" class,) who is not of royal descent! A mercenary, that he is, and yet he's so strong. He's also the only main character to have a special move (aether, derp.)Vincent Transvestite O_oKirby-1.png 21:50, 30 December 2011 (EST)
  5. 'Cause I'm doing a massive Fire Emblem binge right now. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 22:41, 30 December 2011 (EST)
  6. Ike is a much cooler badass. Ike Fights for his friends and meta knight willl get no sympany from him. Wassboss8 (talk) 04:38, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  7. Again, in the middle of a playthrough of Path of Radiance. -- 10:44, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  8. Meta Knight is banned; Ike's reaction: "You'll get no sympathy from me. I'm still legal." MeleeMarth01Tomorrow is New Year’s! MarthHeadSSBM.png 11:35, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  9. I do love the Kirby series, but Ike is a much more enjoyable and powerful opponent. Plus, Great Aether is the best Final Smash. LightningBlue: Electric! 18:29, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  10. Why Ike>Meta Knight Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 20:28, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  11. first main. --HavocReaper48 21:51, 31 December 2011 (EST)
  12. I prefer playing as Ike much more than Meta Knight and I prefer Fire Emblem over the Kirby series 04:14, 1 January 2012 (EST)
  13. Fire Emblem FTW! That and Radiant Dawn is my fave game in the series. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! BowserHeadSSBM.png 08:09, 2 January 2012 (EST)
  14. Ike rawks. 18:43, 2 January 2012 (EST)
  15. Ike. 03:23, 3 January 2012 (EST)
  16. Ike is far cooler and much sexier. 08:50, 5 January 2012 (EST)
  17. They're both ridiculously cheap, but ike isn't AS cheap. He was also my 1st main. Pokémonultimate ToonLinkHeadSSBB.png The Hero of WINds 18:36, 5 January 2012 (EST)
  18. You'll get no sympathy from me. -- 20:02, 5 January 2012 (EST)


  1. GREAT AETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's why... —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 05:43, 31 December 2011


Wow, I can't believe my surgestion actually was made into a SA round. ..... Happy New Year MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png 21:09, 30 December 2011 (EST)

Because it's a great suggestion? BlindColours Boing.png 14:02, 31 December 2011 (EST)

Yes it is a great one. Those two have been used (and sometimes hated) so many times in Brawl. LightningBlue: Electric! 18:30, 31 December 2011 (EST)

According to this SWF thread by John#, Meta Knight's usage is around 44% of all character usage, vs. ~1% for Ike. Believe me, I'm getting sick of Ike's "overwhelming popularity" as well. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 00:41, 1 January 2012 (EST)

Is it just me, or is it hard to read who voted for Ike?MeleeMarth01Happy New Year! MarthHeadSSBM.png 13:11, 1 January 2012 (EST)

Hey, I just posted my vote for Ike, and it counted my vote as number 1. not 14. Can someone fix this? Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! BowserHeadSSBM.png 08:13, 2 January 2012 (EST)

Fixed! :o Lucas-IV- CREEP MCLucas.png 09:07, 2 January 2012 (EST)

I heard the reason towards Ike's popularity is that 1)He's the "pretty boy fighter"2)Final Smash is quite intense 3) A well known character in Fire Elbem and finally, the fact that he is strangely seen as the only heroic character in Brawl. Hope this helps.Drakon64 CharizardHeadSSBB.png 22:20, 2 January 2012 (EST)

I think vote number 8 for Ike is not signed... Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 18:36, 3 January 2012 (EST)

You know, you can put it in the half votes too. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 19:41, 3 January 2012 (EST)

@Mousehunter, I think MK is perhaps the most popular character due to being used many times in tounaments. I don't know if Ike is popular or not. ..... Falcon Punch!!!! PikachuHeadSSBB.png 17:22, 4 January 2012 (EST)

vote 11 for MK is signed wrong. Too lazy to fix it on the Wii browser tho. Pokémonultimate ToonLinkHeadSSBB.png The Hero of WINds 23:24, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Then you can also put that incorrect vote in the half votes section. ..... Falcon Punch!!!! PikachuHeadSSBB.png 23:29, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Round 120: Zero Laser vs. Aura Storm[edit]

Aura Storm
Lucario Aura Storm.jpg

9 to 19.5
Lucario Aura Storm.jpg
Twin beams of pure periwinkle energy with massive power. Which will outblast the other?

Votes for Zero Laser[edit]

  1. It's powerful and transforms you into ZSS. That's enough for me. MeleeMarth01 Minna, miteite edit! MarthHeadSSBM.png 12:36, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  2. I dont have much trouble avoidng aura storm, and if it misses at first it fizzles out pretty quickly. ..then again, Pit's my main, but still.. Zero Lazer has a larger blast area which players like me have more trouble dodging. I just find it much more effective. 12:15, 8 January 2012 (EST)
  3. This deserves more votes. JamesHeartContainerIconSSB.png123 23:51, 8 January 2012 (EST)
  4. Pity. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 08:15, 9 January 2012 (EST)
  6. Metroid is one of my fave game series, and I enjoy it more than Pokemon, so meh. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! BowserHeadSSBM.png 16:05, 12 January 2012 (EST)
  7. One question. Can Lucario's final smash move him up 21 places on the tier list, like Samus' can? Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 13 January 2012 (EST)
  8. 15:52, 13 January 2012 (EST)
  9. Although i am a pokefan, ZSS is WAAAAY higher on my main list (3rd, as opposed to about 30th)and she is HAWT. Also provides useful items for a quick 30% on your foe's new stock. Pokémonultimate ToonLinkHeadSSBB.png The Hero of WINds 18:07, 13 January 2012 (EST)

Votes for Aura Storm[edit]

  1. There's bound to be lots of Dragon Ball Z and Shoop Da Whoop references this round, so I'll go with something else. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO GO AT AN ANGLE! +0.25 Internets to anyone who knows what I mean. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 11:09, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  2. Lucario is my main so of course I go for this. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 11:11, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  3. They're basically the same, so it just comes down to that I'm a Pokemon fan. 11:47, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  4. You can dodge Zero Laser easily by going to the back of Samus and then attacking her after she's finished. Aura storm is a bit more harder to dodge unless if your Pit or Charizard. ..... Falcon Punch!!!! PikachuHeadSSBB.png 12:46, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  5. Much better range. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 13:11, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  6. KAMAYAMAYA! 14:31, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  7. It's not supposed to go at an angle!-JoshJepson BlindColours Boing.png 18:51, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  8. Kame...hame...HAAAAA!!! That's how I feel about this final smash. Heh! 21:05, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  9. Zero Laser leaves you vulnerable after the attack, after Aura Storm you can attack right away. 21:13, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  10. I'm decent with Lucario, Samus no. -- 21:27, 7 January 2012 (EST)
  11. "one of my favorite final smash is the Aura Storm. because the electric stacks my foes down"Smash X 5432 (talk) 13:22, 8 January 2012 (EST)
  12. FunFact! Did u no Lucario was originally voiced by Sean Schemmel, who voiced Goku? ( Lucario fires his Kamehameha at the annoying voice that said that) Perfect.Drakon64 CharizardHeadSSBB.png 15:28, 8 January 2012 (EST)
  13. The Mobility of this Final Smash proves superior. Lucario still keeps his power stats, but Samus does not. LightningBlue: Electric! 16:21, 8 January 2012 (EST)
  14. Lucario beats Zero suit samus and thus i vote for his final smash.Wassboss8 (talk) 02:41, 9 January 2012 (EST)
  15. Im a Pokemon fan and this is my second best final smash, right behind [[Landmaster|Wolfs Landmaster.Deyna Taggerung (talk) 13:10, 11 January 2012 (EST)
  16. Oh yeah! 1 of the 3 LUs: Luigi, Lucario and Lucas. I like Lucario because he's cool, and because of his final smash (ahm ahm)! Great brawler. WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE -- 12:26, 12 January 2012 (EST)
  17. ... too many kamehameha references.... but who cares? Aura Storm Pwns. Btw that was a joshjepson reference-- 19:57, 12 January 2012 (EST)
  18. Samus loses. Why? He's open to attack when he's finished. His Zero Laser is slow to move and slow to stop moving. Lucario's Aura Storm, on the other hand, is more flexible, although it is quite a bit weaker, with some exceptions. Hawk 21FZeroSymbol.svgTalk 20:04, 12 January 2012 (EST)
  19. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:02, 13 January 2012 (EST)


  1. nice chuggaaconroy reference —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:41, 7 January 2012 (EST)


Another one-sided battle :PDrakon64 CharizardHeadSSBB.png 15:30, 8 January 2012 (EST)

Well Drakon, it is because of Lucario's mobility in the Final Smash. We are all smart in saying: "Kill everyone around me" in Brawl. However, Aurora Beam would not be always effective 1 on 1. LightningBlue: Electric! 16:26, 8 January 2012 (EST)

Actually it's more easy to hit 1 guy cuz u won't miss anyone because there is only one guy. Just focus on him and it's way more effective then multi-killing people because as I said before, you can focus on one guy that u can't miss.Drakon64 CharizardHeadSSBB.png 21:35, 9 January 2012 (EST)
Drakon,, rule 12 :o Lucas-IV- CREEP MCLucas.png 06:39, 10 January 2012 (EST)

IP half vote: It's not chuggaconroy, it's JoshJepson. BlindColours Boing.png 10:28, 10 January 2012 (EST)

Hey um for the vote at the bottom for aura storm, I guess maybe I live in an area full of bad players as I won the last local tournament, but I dont know one person that can play well enough as Lucario to beat me, even as Zero Suit Samus, and I normally play as Pit. Can someone explain?

Read rule 12 and sign your comments with four tildes ~~~~. To answer your question, you simply don't have competent Lucarios in your area. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:44, 10 January 2012 (EST)

Thank you, & sorry I forgot there. 07:44, 11 January 2012 (EST)

@, uhhh there is only 3 out of 18 people that made a Kamehameha reference. 4 if one counts the mention of DragonBall Z on the first vote. I wouldn't consider that too many.Drakon64 CharizardHeadSSBB.png 17:08, 13 January 2012 (EST)

Hawk 21, it's about time you learnt something important about Samus's gender. Anyways, I gladly award +0.25 internets each to BlindColours and for successfully identifying the JoshJepson reference. Alas,, you do not earn any internets for believing It's not supposed to go at an angle! was a chuggaaconroy reference. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 17:42, 13 January 2012 (EST)

And one more thing, Who would've thought of the Dragon Ball reference? @Toast well we should know that her gender was revealed in Super Metroid, and her speed in this game based on attacks can be faster than Sonic (excluding his midair combos). LightningBlue: Electric! 19:32, 13 January 2012 (EST)