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Round 216: Mushroom Kingdom (SSB) vs. Mushroom Kingdom (SSBM)[edit]

Mushroom Kingdom (SSB)

15.5 to 2
Mushroom Kingdom I Melee.png
Same names, different games. Effectively identical visuals and sounds, but totally different layouts. Which version is superior?

Votes for Mushroom Kingdom (SSB)[edit]

  1. Meh. Why not? Warp Pipes. Dots (talk) MewtwoMS.png The Mewtwo 01:03, 14 December 2013 (EST)
  2. Better for matches anyways. Also, surprise attacks. Requiem of Ice (talk) 02:38, 14 December 2013 (EST)
  3. [1] Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 03:49, 14 December 2013 (EST)
  4. Favorite Smash 64 stage. --Dinoboy411 (talk) 08:44, 14 December 2013 (EST)
  5. i also love this stage. It is a lot of fun especially hitting the pow blockSmash X 5432 (talk) 09:12, 14 December 2013 (EST)
  6. Never played SSB but I don't like the Melee Mushroom Kingdom. 14:14, 14 December 2013 (EST)
  7. random vote159.0.163.4 22:47, 14 December 2013 (EST)
  8. Slightly less unbalanced, and more fun to play on for me. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:00, 14 December 2013 (EST)
  9. The stage layout, background, hazards, POW Blocks, and Pirahna Plants make this stage seem for close to Super Mario Brothers. Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 19:02, 17 December 2013 (EST)
  10. Warp pipes are awesome! Harro (talk) 07:45, 19 December 2013 (EST)
  11. Slightly better for meteor smashes (in a game that is better for meteor smashes), and I like the POW Blocks. The Warp Pipes were innovative too, and it's surprising that they haven't been reused in another Smash. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 15:41, 19 December 2013 (EST)
  12. The warp pipes are fun. ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 16:42, 20 December 2013 (EST)
  13. Played both of these courses. Definately one of the best courses in SSB. 21:19, 23 December 2013 (EST)
  14. I definitely dig this stage's layout more than Melee's version. And the warp pipes are bomb. SSB Symbol (flat).png davidvkimball 03:50, 24 December 2013 (EST)
  15. It is the only unlockable stage in ssb, summarizes the Mario series in a more innovative way in the platforms, POW block, and especially the warp pipes, and overall is one of the best stage options in the game. 03:20, 28 December 2013 (EST)


  1. very awsome stage —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 06:49, 22 December 2013 (GMT)

Votes for Mushroom Kingdom (SSBM)[edit]

  1. Just 'cause 15:36, 14 December 2013 (EST)
  2. you start with this one, and this has a better layout74.212.55.248 07:49, 16 December 2013 (EST)


How come Mushroom Kingdom II is not in the fight? ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 00:55, 14 December 2013 (EST)

Look at the name and the description. Requiem of Ice (talk) 02:38, 14 December 2013 (EST)
It's just that the fight was originally suggested as Mushroom Kingdom (SSB) vs. Mushroom Kingdom (SSBM) vs. Mushroom Kingdom II. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 11:28, 14 December 2013 (EST)
I decided that the bout worked better as a two-combatant fight with a purer connection, than a three-way with a slightly weirder one. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Boss 23:33, 14 December 2013 (EST)

About mushroom kingdom II: that isn't the mushroom kingdom at all, but mushroomy kingdom (SSBB) should be in —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:24, 17 December 2013

OTHER PEOPLE have prevented me from having enough time to do a new round this week. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Wacko 13:58, 21 December 2013 (EST)

Round 217: Mewtwo (PM) vs. Roy (PM)[edit]

Artistic rendering of Mewtwo in Project M.
Artistic rendering of Mewtwo in Project M.

17.5 to 7
Artistic rendering of Roy in Project M.
The Melee-only fan-favourites to the degree of earning their own slots in Project M. Does the darkness or ph1r3 win this fight?

Votes for Mewtwo (PM)[edit]

  1. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 12:43, 28 December 2013 (EST)
  2. Even I say he's pretty damn OP. 12:50, 28 December 2013 (EST)
  3. 14:10, 28 December 2013 (EST)
  4. Not only is he the God Tier in my opinion but Roy is too much like Marth but Mewtwo is unique. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 17:36, 28 December 2013 (EST)
  5. I surprisingly found myself enjoying Mewtwo in Project M to where I may comain him, while Roy is still bad. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:43, 28 December 2013 (EST)
  6. Roy didn't change at all... Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 19:38, 28 December 2013 (EST)
  7. No duh. Dots (talk) MewtwoMS.png The Bullet 19:41, 28 December 2013 (EST)
  8. Too much sentimental value for me to vote otherwise. --Timson622222 (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2013 (EST)
  9. I find it more likely for Mewtwo to make it to SSB4. SeanWheeler (talk) 12:27, 29 December 2013 (EST)
  10. Legendary Pokémon. Nuff' said. FireMario1534 23:59, 29 December 2013 (EST)
  11. Though Roy has "Pendulum Slash" (D-Air) and a lot of good changes, I have to give it to Mewtwo because of his changes overweighing Roy's. I'll still use Roy, but I'll give this to Mewtwo. Requiem of Ice (talk) 01:06, 30 December 2013 (EST)
  12. 'cause POKEMON94.98.230.182 02:05, 30 December 2013 (EST)
  13. His voice is pleasant to listen to, he's a psychic, he's OP, and he was much more requested than Roy. Also, he's a cat. 11:42, 30 December 2013 (EST)
  14. Gravity Squeeze beats Ryuenjin, sorry to say. MarioGalaxyTalk 21:07, 30 December 2013 (EST)
  15. Mewtwo has supreme dominance in the air, which can easily help start a large combo against Roy. Mathwiz86 8:53, 3 January 2014 (EST)
  16. Mewtwo isn't a villain, he's just misunderstood. ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 17:27, 3 January 2014 (EST)
  17. I haven't played Project M yet but after watching gameplay of both characters, Mewtwo still looks much better and has more going for him. Roy just has fire added to some his attacks (I'm sure there's more, but that's really all I noticed). blue ninjakoopa 15:01, 6 January 2014 (EST)


  1. Mewtwo OP —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:01, 30 December 2013 (EST)

Votes for Roy (PM)[edit]

  1. You have to go with the fact that Roy looks like a complete ninja in PM. 12:55, 2 January 2014 (EST)
  2. Pity vote. I like both of them, though.--Cakeizgud (talk) 11:00, 3 January 2014 (EST)
  3. Roy has teh ph1r3. I really enjoy the way this guy plays. I'm really bad at Double Edge Dance though... ScopeNeB (talk) 11:15, 3 January 2014 (EST)
  4. Roy's our boy -- 20:28, 3 January 2014 (EST)
  5. Awwww, poor little Roy boy. Looks like nobody gets how good Fire Emblem games are. Oh well, at least he has a sword. Which, when you think about it, barely beats psychic powers. 21:26, 7 January 2014 (EST)


  1. go Roy he'smy favorite melee character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smash x 5432 (talkcontribs) 02:10, 29 December 2013 (GMT)
  2. Guess I'm the odd one out. Mewtwo is a cool character, but I hate the way he controls. Roy managed to become a very popular character solely from his appearance in Melee rather than in Fire Emblem, so I think that makes him a bit of a cool symbol of how great Smash Bros really is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 10:30, 31 December 2013 (EST)
  3. Roy is just awesome.Period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SmashBroProGuyz (talkcontribs) 11:15, 4 January 2014
  4. Roy because why not? Roy is a human and humans are real! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:15, January 5, 2014 (EST)


  1. Looks like Roy is losing. Justice to the most overrated SSB character ever. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 14:07, 31 December 2013 (EST)

SmashBroProGuyz (talk) 14:01, 4 January 2014 (EST) How do you vote? I have no idea... SmashBroProGuyz (talk) 14:13, 4 January 2014 (EST) How do you vote? I know I already said it but...SmashBroProGuyz (talk) 14:13, 4 January 2014 (EST)

This gets to go another week because I'm having connection problems and can't really do all the work for one round without it failing. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Keymaster 18:30, 4 January 2014 (EST)

The vote "Mewtwo OP" is unsigned. I'd fix it, but it's really hard to do on an iPad. ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 19:10, 11 January 2014 (EST)

Round 218: Ray Gun vs. Super Scope[edit]

Ray Gun

12 to 10.5
These two energy blasters are now facing off. One fires consistent laser beams, the other globs of plasma that are either rapid-fire or charged - which is the superior shooter?

Votes for Ray Gun[edit]

  1. I like its looks better. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 13:10, 11 January 2014 (EST)
  2. Now anyone can be a space animal! Just kidding, I currently never play with items. But when I did, I preferred this. --Timson622222 (talk) 14:29, 11 January 2014 (EST)
  3. The Ray Gun feels like your playing a run-and-gun game. :D Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Goldeneye 15:20, 11 January 2014 (EST)
  4. Well... Most of us are aware that spamming the ray gun can lead into instant KOs, depending on many factors such as damage. Even if it doesn't, it can leave opponents in a bad position, and even if they do, it tacks on a lot of damage. 15:48, 11 January 2014 (EST)
  5. Not only was this one here from the beginning, but it is also easier to use and it looks cooler. --SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 21:17, 11 January 2014 (EST)
  6. Easier to use in Brawl. And looks like an actual gun! SeanWheeler (talk) 14:35, 12 January 2014 (EST)
  7. Pow x16 and then smack your opponent away. Love it. Requiem of Ice (talk) 17:00, 12 January 2014 (EST)
  8. I hate the Super Scope. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 19:19, 12 January 2014 (EST)
  9. Just for looksHarro (talk) 19:07, 15 January 2014 (EST)
  10. LOL that gun is the noobiest gun in the game. Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 13:47, 16 January 2014 (EST)
  11. Broken in the right hands, useless in the wrong, how can you not love this thing? Additionally, it turns you into the two top-tier characters in melee! Laikue (talk) 11:36, 18 January 2014 (EST)


  1. WeegeeSmasher8 (talk) 21:58, 11 January 2014 (EST) Ray Gun is in SSB4. Plus it looks cooler in SSB4.
  2. It Looks Better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 15:05, 12 January 2014 (EST)

Votes for Super Scope[edit]

  1. Super Scope is well super! --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 13:18, 11 January 2014 (EST)
  2. It's always satisfying to repeatedly hit your opponents in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Also, this gun is essential for the awesome black hole glitch. GreenMarioBrawlHead.pngGreen Mario 13:57, 11 January 2014 (EST)
  3. Charged Shot FTW! 15:06, 11 January 2014 (EST)
  4. You can use it an infinite amount of times, sort of... ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 19:10, 11 January 2014 (EST)
  5. Pity vote. 12:11, 13 January 2014 (EST)
  6. The Super Scope is better, as its rapid shots are more effective at damage racking and the charged shots are more effective at KOing. Plus it's really easy to escape the Ray Gun's shots, so hitting a competent human to the blast line happens rarely if ever. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:14, 13 January 2014 (EST)
  7. The ray gun is cool, but the super scope has the tremendously useful ability to aid in approaches and stall. -- 18:08, 13 January 2014 (EST)
  8. I'm surprised how few people know how unfair an item the Ray Gun is. As I prefer a fair fight, I'm givng my vote to the good old Super Scope. 03:20, 14 January 2014 (EST)
  9. Black hole glitch. Plus, it's fun to keep firing this when it's uncharged and watch your opponents flinch in pain constantly. 07:42, 18 January 2014 (EST)
  10. Looks cooler ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 12:04, 18 January 2014 (EST)


  1. A Very Close Match. But In The End The Super Scope Fires And Defeats The Ray Gun By 1 Point —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:40, January 15, 2014 (EST)


Note to the IP who kept voting without signing under multiple IP addresses: Don't do that. You aren't fooling anyone. Vote only once. All your votes this round have been discounted and deleted. Toomai Glittershine ??? Da Bess 12:44, 18 January 2014 (EST)

Just out of curiosity, if he signed under multiple IP addresses, how do you know it was the same person? ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 20:11, 19 January 2014 (EST)
Well, the first two numbers of the IP addresses were all identical, which is highly suspicious. So I put them into and all of them mapped to the exact same geographical location (to like 6 or 7 digits of precision) and ISP data. There is no doubt it was one person trying to vote as different IPs. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Golden 11:41, 25 January 2014 (EST)

Round 219: Ray MK III vs. Saki[edit]

Image of Ray Mk III Assist Trophy.
Image of Ray Mk III Assist Trophy.

12 to 6
Image of Saki Amamiya, an Assist Trophy for Brawl
A pair of Assist Trophies that dash around and shoot people. I got nothing.

Votes for Ray MK III[edit]

  1. idc about Assist Trophies, so I can't judge how good they are, but I think Ray's cooler. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 12:49, 18 January 2014 (EST)
  2. Transformers! More than it meets the eye! Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The RBY 13:55, 18 January 2014 (EST)
  3. Both are pretty efficient at killing my computer friends, but I say that Ray MK III kills them more often. GreenMarioBrawlHead.png Green Mario 15:50, 18 January 2014 (EST)
  4. While both pretty much demolish CPs and use their dignity as a mop to clean up the mess, Saki is less effective at KOing humans. -- 17:46, 19 January 2014 (EST)
  5. 3... 2... 1... ACTIVATE! LET THE WARS BEGIN!!! Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 18:00, 19 January 2014 (EST)
  6. I find ray MK more useful Saki is also easy to avoid--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 21:35, 19 January 2014 (EST)
  7. Transformers, robots in disguise! --Timson622222 (talk) 00:00, 20 January 2014 (EST)
  8. 12:10, 20 January 2014 (EST)
  9. So awesome. Its kinda hard to avoid him since he does 75 degree arcs, too. 23:28, 21 January 2014 (EST)
  10. Was a tough call, but I do have those soccer ball moments with this guy. Mathwiz86
  11. I wish it were Ray 01 to have some feels, but Ray is still awesome. Dragon5 (talk) 12:09, 22 January 2014 (EST)


  1. Looks cooler. It's also a robot. SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 12:42, 19 January 2014 (EST)
  2. I like it better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 13:56, 20 January 2014

Votes for Saki[edit]

  1. Ray isn't very good IMHO. Laikue (talk) 14:09, 18 January 2014 (EST)
  2. Even things up for a bit. 14:34, 18 January 2014 (EST)
  3. --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 01:38, 19 January 2014 (EST)
  4. Sin & Punishment is a seriously great game. It's a shame that not a lot of people have heard of the series. Sin & Punishment: Star Successor is only $10 at GameStop. You should give it a try! ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 20:09, 19 January 2014 (EST)
  5. The other one reminds me too much of Transformers. 14:00, 22 January 2014 (EST)
  6. Pity vote. 03:12, 24 January 2014 (EST)


Round 220: Wooden Crate vs. Metallic Crate vs. Present Crate[edit]

Model of classic Crate from Brawl. Viewed in brresviwer because it was easy to make all crate images look the same; if another rendering method can make it brighter while still keeping the same pose for all images, it might be preferred.
Model of alloy Crate from Brawl. Viewed in brresviwer because it was easy to make all crate images look the same; if another rendering method can make it brighter while still keeping the same pose for all images, it might be preferred.
Model of surprise Crate from Brawl. Viewed in brresviwer because it was easy to make all crate images look the same; if another rendering method can make it brighter while still keeping the same pose for all images, it might be preferred.
Present Crate
Model of surprise Crate from Brawl. Viewed in brresviwer because it was easy to make all crate images look the same; if another rendering method can make it brighter while still keeping the same pose for all images, it might be preferred.

6.5 to 7 to 16.5
Brawl added the idea of wrapping containers based on what the stage looks like. Which box variant stacks up the votes?

Votes for Wooden Crate[edit]

  1. The original design. RickTommy 19:05, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  2. 19:09, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  3. Modernism. Also, it's past Christmas. :P Dragon5 (talk) 19:32, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  4. The classic design. Mr. Mewtwo, Roy, Game, And Watch (talk) 22:24, 26 January 2014 (EST)
  5. 17:47, 28 January 2014 (EST)
  6. Always loved the original design, and is still one of my favorites. 17:13, 29 January 2014 (EST)


  1. it is awsome —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 13:28, 25 January 2014 (EDT)

Votes for Metallic Crate[edit]

  1. This one looks so good. 14:54, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  2. It's from the future. How cool is that? SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 17:04, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  3. I like this one. Also I spawn a bunch in the training mode :p 22:32, 26 January 2014 (EST)
  4. Well, this was an easy decision to make. 03:05, 27 January 2014 (EST)
  5. Cool design. 12:07, 27 January 2014 (EST)
  6. this design just fits the futuristic style of the smash bros fights in my opinionHarro (talk) 23:55, 28 January 2014 (EST)
  7. It looks the coolest. blue ninjakoopa 13:15, 29 January 2014 (EST)

Votes for Present Crate[edit]

  1. Looks the best. 12:12, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  2. Presents! 13:33, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  3. Who doesn't want to get presents for Christmas? Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Left 4 Dead 13:43, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  4. stuff Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 13:51, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  5. Its so pretty :) --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 13:54, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  6. BURN, BABY! Requiem of Ice (talk) 15:49, 25 January 2014 (EST)
  7. Present box gives you items(or an explosion) as presents!!--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 02:54, 26 January 2014 (EST)
  8. It's like christmas, if you've been a good boy, good items. You be a bad boy,it explodes!!DrMarioPwns (talk) 12:24, 26 January 2014 (EST)
  9. Most fitting of the three, considering what it does... 20:13, 26 January 2014 (EST)Anonymous 20:11, 26 January 2014 (EST)
  10. Who cares if Christmas is over? Presents are fun! ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 09:52, 27 January 2014 (EST)
  11. Merry Christmas! SeanWheeler (talk) 11:44, 27 January 2014 (EST)
  12. Cause it's fun opening a present. SURPRISE! 15:40, 27 January 2014 (EST)
  13. It's similar to gift ^.^ Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 20:11, 28 January 2014 (EST)
  14. It's always fun opening a present... Who cares if it's past Christmas SamisFusion (talk) 02:00, 29 January 2014 (EST)
  15. LOVE THEM94.98.211.237 08:10, 29 January 2014 (EST)
  16. Much as I like the classic design, I gotta assume this box is made of cardboard. Always gotta vote for the cardboard box; they can save your life one day. MarioGalaxyTalk 13:11, 29 January 2014 (EST)


  1. Best thing ever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TailsCopter (talkcontribs) 13:39, January 27, 2014 (EST)


Am I allowed to vote if it was my suggestion? Harro (talk) 23:39, 26 January 2014 (EST)

Of course you can. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 23:48, 26 January 2014 (EST)