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Round 201: Pikachu (SSB) vs. Meta Knight (SSBB)[edit]

Pikachu SSB.png
Pikachu (SSB)
Pikachu SSB.png

19 to 10.5
Meta Knight SSBB.jpg
They dominate their respective metagames with no disadvantageous matchups - how do they fare against each other?

Votes for Pikachu (SSB)[edit]

  1. Isai is too good. Scr7Wolfsig.png =D 12:57, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Just as Scr7 said. Also, he isn't banned. It's also much harder to be an annoying Pikachu in SSB64 than an annoying MK in Brawl, IMO. DarkFox01DF01Sig.pngpromoteS uSage of thiS template 13:22, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Pikachu does not have a frame 2 trancendent moveset, so I'll vote for him. Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 13:28, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Smash 64 is teh dumbz, but I think that MK is more broken than Pikachu. In practice, MK has no even match-ups (screw ESAM), and is more ubiquitous in tournament results than Pikachu. DoctorPain99 14:00, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. I wantz teh Snakez onle, but, this will do. Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 14:10, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Fat Pikachu was awesome back then. I don't like how it got thinner throughout the years. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Silent 14:23, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Cute. 16:02, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. A better fighter.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 16:14, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. 17:35, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. More arousing. Chuck the Duck (talk) 21:38, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  11. My username says it all Pikachu303 (talk) 05:48, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
  12. Pika Punch. And also, Pikachu in the original anime was SO CUTE. 07:51, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
  13. I LOVE Pikachu!!!! I searched for hours in the woods on Pokemon blue for this cutie! 75.121.214 25 August 2013 11:39
  14. One of my favorite fictional characters, my main, the only character that is currently considered even against Meta Knight. Yup, all of those are more than enough to have me vote for Pikachu. 11:50, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. Because he's from Pokémon, the most liked, and because he's my main, gives me many reasons to vote for him. Superstarxalien169's smashbox. (talk) 13:05, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
  16. I'm better with Pikachu in Brawl than Meta Knight. Why is Meta Knight top tier? So overrated? SeanWheeler (talk) 11:19, 26 August 2013 (EDT)
  17. Because I love Pokémon. ChuckNorris24.png 18:36, 26 August 2013 (EDT)
  18. Pokémon is far better than Kirby and Pikachu is better than Meta Knight94.97.252.251 08:03, 27 August 2013 (EDT)
  19. Pikachu is AWESOME, and at least he wasn't banned.--LavaKirby 17:06, 28 August 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Meta Knight (SSBB)[edit]

  1. my cousin likes him Ja (talk) 14:51, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. He's so boss, he's banned. Terrible is Terrible 18:19, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Eh, I never owned the original, therefore it'd be lying if I said I liked the original Pikachu more. And Meta Knight is broken, but he's still a fighter. And I like playing around with him sometimes, despite not being my main. So if I get the original I'll probably like Pikachu more, but for now, I'll vote for the under-dog. WashiWashi signature.png 23:07, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Medda K'Night has his own custom victory theme, and I'm better with him. The rare occasions that I play Smash 64, I was never great at Pikachu. --HavocReaper48 23:40, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Just the fact that he's just randomly overpowered makes him epic. I never liked Pika in SSB64. ----- Conanshinichi 08:39, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Pikachu! BEHOLD MY POWER!!! And besides, he's awesome c:! Cobravictim (talk) 11:17, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. I would've voted for Pikachu if I played Pikachu. I know Meta Knight is really controversial and not a lot of people like him taking 5/8 of the top 8 in most tournaments, but at least I play him and he's fun to play, even if broken. --Timson622222 (talk) 21:19, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. He doesn't use zero-death combos to kill people. Awesome Cardinal 2000 00:16, 26 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Very underpowered. Pls buff. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 16:33, 26 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. Per Terrible and Anon. Bandit 21:14, 30 August 2013 (EDT)


  1. i dont use pikachu in SSB. so meta-knight! --If you annoy igor the mii. you are killed by PK Starstorm! (talk) 12:13, 30 August 2013 (EDT)


Round 202: Dream Land vs. Green Greens[edit]

Dream Land

16 to 12
The home arena of Whispy Woods in each game so far. Does the simpler stage or varied vista triumph?

Votes for Dream Land[edit]

  1. Dream Land is by far my favorite stage in Super Smash Bros. 64 as well as having my favorite music of all of the Smash Bros. games, Gourmet Race. Green Greens is my least favorite stage in Melee and Brawl, *mumbles because of those stupid bomb blocks. :P Dots MewtwoMS.png The Silent 00:21, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. WELL?!?!?!?!?!?!?! DoctorPain99 00:40, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. OMEGATYRANT?!?! Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 00:41, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. The only decent stage in the game. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 01:20, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Dream Land of course. Has been since the first Smash Bros. game, contains a great and quite memetic music, and there aren't blocks stopping your KOs every time. Crazymasterhand98MasterhandSSB64.jpg
  6. I like playing on this stage in both SSB64 and Melee, and it has awesome music too. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 03:44, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. I like this stage better. Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 05:01, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. Gourmet Race, that's all that needs to be said. 07:23, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Love the music37.106.45.76 13:19, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. I usually like a lot of the banned stages. Green Greens, though, is just annoying with all the bomb blocks getting in the way, and I like the simplicity of Dream Land 64. Every time I start Brawl modifications again I make sure to replace Green Greens with Dream Land, in fact. --Timson622222 (talk) 00:32, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
  11. Dream Land <3 --LavaKirby 12:52, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
  12. Has better music, and seems more colorful. TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 19:22, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
  13. More arousing. Chuck the Duck (talk) 21:24, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
  14. This stage doesn't blow. *Ba dum tiss* WashiWashi signature.png 17:50, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
  15. Because Kirby Super Star is one of my favorite Kirby games. ChuckNorris24.png 17:28, 4 September 2013 (EDT)
  16. because Green Greens is a remake in Brawl. --If you annoy igor the mii. you are killed by PK Starstorm! (talk) 15:51, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Green Greens[edit]

  1. More hilarity ensures here. --HavocReaper48 00:21, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Pity vote. 01:55, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Better music, bomb blocks for the win and the apples. --MMAI.pngMeMyselfAndI 07:53, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. 18:25, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. I like stages full of stage hazards, and Dream Land is the oposite of that.Tepig (talk) 19:10, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Green Greens is my fourth-favourite stage in Smash history. The top three, in no particular order, are Delfino Plaza, Great Bay and Skyloft. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 22:07, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Best Kirby stage in Melee, best Melee stage in Brawl. It really doesn't get any better than exploding blocks, does it? CrouchingEtown (talk) 01:58, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
  8. I love both, but this one has more memories. Ahh...memories. 12:03 1 September 2013
  9. Goodbye! Terrible is Terrible 13:37, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
  10. Chaotic fun. 14:51, 4 September 2013 (EDT)
  11. Pity vote :) 03:19, 6 September 2013 (EDT)
  12. I find Dream Land more enjoyable overall, but I'll give Green Greens credit for having a more original layout. 17:04, 6 September 2013 (EDT)


Round 203: Super Dragon vs. Rocketbarrel Barrage[edit]

Super Dragon - Brawl Trophy.png
Super Dragon
Super Dragon - Brawl Trophy.png

17.5 to 7
Rocketbarrel Barrage - Brawl Trophy.png
Two transformation Final Smashes which allow the user to fly through the sky and rain fire down. Which mobile mess cuts the mustard?

Votes for Super Dragon[edit]

  1. Another vote by me based solely on Super Mario World. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 11:34, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  2. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 11:36, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  3. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Saxaphone 11:55, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  4. Yoshi is way better than Diddy, plus I can't really control Rocketbarrel Barrage.--LavaKirby 12:30, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  5. It does drag on, but it still makes a soup of foes. I don't like either Final Smash much, but Super Dragon has the better trophy, and this section is green. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 12:41, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  6. I find this easier to control. 20:28, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  7. When I used to play with Final Smashes, I always thought Rocketbarrel Barrage was the worst in the game because it was notoriously hard to control, didn't do much damage in comparison to other Final Smashes of its caliber (such as this one,) and rewards enemies if you miss by letting them heal on dropped peanuts. This, on the other hand, was also hard to control but was actually powerful (well, for me, at least.) I like Diddy more as a character but I like this Final Smash regardless. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:46, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  8. I get more kills with Super Dragon and even if Rocketbarrel Charge give out health replenishing peanuts, you don't usually get them and the opponents usually do. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 17:20, 8 September 2013 (EDT)
  9. Dragon + Yoshi = awesomeness94.97.234.44 11:49, 9 September 2013 (EDT)
  10. I love Yoshi. 16:01, 9 September 2013 (EDT)
  11. He's a freakin' dragon!! Maybe just Yoshi with angel wings, but still a firebreathing DRAGON! Just watch Smash King. SeanWheeler (talk) 20:30, 9 September 2013 (EDT)
  12. Yoshi is awesome with bird wings and fire breath. 21:45, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
  13. Much easier to control, and hits harder as well. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 21:50, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
  14. It`s a dragon who breathes deadly fire astroids throughout the whole stage. Nuff said.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 16:33, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
  15. Yoshi is a cute little fellow. ChuckNorris24.png 16:23, 13 September 2013 (EDT)
  16. I perfer yoshi over diddy i love yoshi hes one of my favorite smash characters--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 19:42, 13 September 2013 (EDT)


  1. an adorable dinosaur with angel wings, that spits out fire...Do I need a better reason? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:12, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  2. Ahhh, I remember the first time I used it, then totally KO'D my friend. It felt EPIC. --TheIncrediblePichuLOL (talk) 21:14, 7 September 2013 (EDT) Pichu's are EPIC!!!!!!! I like the word Epic!! :D
  3. i just think that super dragon is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY cooler.--(MetaMewtwoSoul) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MetaMewtwoSoul (talkcontribs) 11:44, 8 September 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Rocketbarrel Barrage[edit]

  1. That doesn't look like a super dragon to me. :|O Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 11:55, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  2. I like them both, but I used to main Diddy, so I choose him. WashiWashi signature.png 12:13, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  3. 12:20, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  4. Ah, the memories of flying around the levels in DK64 with Diddy Kong. Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 12:48, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  5. ::P//P DoctorPain99 14:08, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  6. Because Diddy Kong is my main. -- 19:03, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
  7. Whoa, two of my suggestions in a row?! Anyhow, I feel bad for Diddy, because he's one of my favorite characters in the Smash Bros. series, yet he seems rather unpopular on this site. As a result, I'm voting for this Final Smash without question. 22:21, 13 September 2013 (EDT)


Round 204: Adventure Mode (SSBM) vs. The Subspace Emissary[edit]

The Subspace Emissary

8.5 to 18
Which incarnation of what many call "story mode" reaches the top?

Votes for Adventure Mode (SSBM)[edit]

  1. In b4 Brian LightningBlue405MS.png 01:57, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  2. The arcade style is much more fitting in Smash. Plus it wasn't a huge development sink that detracted from everything else. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 02:11, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  3. SSE was the worst o‿O Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 04:10, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  4. I like beating up Giga Bowser with DK. Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 13:07, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  5. I don't really care for huge, epic stories in video games, so I like the melee version of adventure mode better.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 20:22, 15 September 2013 (EDT)
  6. 16:46, 17 September 2013 (EDT)
  7. Nostalgia. ChuckNorris24.png 17:14, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
  8. You can play as any character, and I can play this multiple times. SSE, I only play once to unlock the characters and that's it. Lol SSE is gonna win --MMAI.pngMeMyselfAndI 10:52, 20 September 2013 (EDT)


  1. I just like adventure modes feel better —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 19:10, September 16, 2013 (EDT)

Votes for The Subspace Emissary[edit]

  1. I'm totally going to get shunned for this. :D FluffyCon Airconny Snake Sig.png 00:02, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  2. The story mode of Melee is boring. Awesome Cardinal 2000 07:44, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  3. definitely SSP's for sure has the fight of tabuu and he is the most hardest boss in Nintendo's historySmash X 5432 (talk) 09:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  4. Doing Adventure Mode with 25 characters was a drag, I was quite happy playing through SSE seventeen times. There's some nice cutscenes to be had here, and more importantly, boss battles. I can't make a Let's Play of Adventure Mode, either. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 09:07, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  5. Marth And Meta Knight working together was just the spot-on definition of "omagawt". WashiWashi signature.png 09:41, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  6. I like how this gave the Smash Bros. series an adventurous story that is quite similar to Kirby Super Star which I have to say is my favorite Kirby game. While I don't like how the Subspace Emissary makes short hops harder to perform, you can at least use your c-stick for smash attacks and aerials in Brawl solo mode unlike Melee's single player mode. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Doomguy 10:30, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  7. Felt more like an adventure than a scripted classic mode. 11:08, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  8. I always liked getting the characters in this one. Plus it's fun! 12:06, 14 September 2013 (EDT) 14 September 2013
  9. I returned to the Smash Arena after a long time. Everything seems the same, xD Well, I guess I'll vote for SSE as it has epic cutscenes. 12:16, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  10. When I first heard SSBM had an Adventure Mode, I was excited for when I got it. Then when I saw what you had to do in it, I got dissapointed. The Subspace Essimary's Great Maze creeps me out, but I'd rather play the SSE.--LavaKirby 13:47, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  11. Maybe they focused on this a bit too much, but I really like it. --Timson622222 (talk) 15:29, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  12. I shed a tear or two during the ending ToonMegaman (talk) 16:15, 14 September 2013 (EDT) 16:14, 14 september 2013
  13. By my opinion, the SSE is one of the best stories in videogame history.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 22:28, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  14. It is longer and more exciting I like it94.97.230.111 23:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  15. It makes it so much easier to unlock characters--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 21:23, 15 September 2013 (EDT)
  16. I actually like both, but varied storylines,characters from different universes working together, and being able to unlock characters quickly is what gets me. Why would Sakurai remove storylines for the next smash game? ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 22:53, 15 September 2013 (EDT)
  17. The SSE gets too much hate. I don't get why. The story was fun and Adventure Mode got old much sooner. Megamanmario4 (talk) 22:45, 20 September 2013 (EDT)


  1. I only have brawl at moment. Plus SSE is cooler and has more enemies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 03:06 14 September 2013 (EDT)
  2. RAYQUAZA!!![[User:MetaMewtwoSoul|]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by MetaMewtwoSoul (talkcontribs) 08:23, 15 September 2013 (EDT)


im surprised this hasnt been done alot earlier in smash arena o.o--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 21:26, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm surprised you don't know that comments like this are unnecessary, useless, and pointless. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 11:08, 16 September 2013 (EDT)
I believe that's an acceptable comment. As long as he/she doesn't comment on how close or one sided, or starting an argument, it's fine. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 17:43, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

Round 205: Taunt cancelling vs. Moonwalking[edit]

Taunt-canceling Dr. Mario Melee.gif
Moonwalking Melee.gif

4 to 13.5
Moonwalking Melee.gif
While they do have their uses, these two techinques mostly just look cool. Which jaunt has more jam?

Votes for Taunt cancelling[edit]

  1. Most normal taunts don't annoy your opponent. Taunt cancel spam in SSB64 does. wheeeeeee o‿O Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 10:19, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
  2. Just 'cause. 20:45, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
  3. The two mostly apply to different games, and I personally love taunt spamming SSB64 :D 22:27, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
  4. Amusing. 17:19, 24 September 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Moonwalking[edit]

  1. Oh come on, Captain Falcon is the better example for moonwalking. Why Fox instead of him? Dots MewtwoMS.png The Player 11:17, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
  2. moon walking sounds coolerMetaMewtwoSoul (talk) 12:46, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
  3. This. WashiWashi signature.png 12:59, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
  4. This movement is more useful159.0.149.65 14:55, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
  5. Moonwalking is basically a taunt in itself. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:39, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
  6. Looks cooler. Awesome Cardinal 2000 23:43, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
  7. Who doesn't like moonwalking? :p 12:01, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
  8. heh ;3 --LavaKirby 14:16, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
  9. Do I need a reason? JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 14:55, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
  10. FALKON MOONWALK--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 18:20, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
  11. That's how easy love can be! ChuckNorris24.png 17:25, 23 September 2013 (EDT)
  12. It's very arousing. Chuck the Duck (talk) 21:52, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
  13. Moonwalking's just better looking. Vuela Vuela, baby talk 13:45, 27 September 2013 (EDT)


  1. 2 words: Michael Jackson style! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 05:18, September 24, 2013