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Round 211: Dr. Mario vs. Young Link[edit]

Dr. Mario SSBM.jpg
Dr. Mario
Dr. Mario SSBM.jpg

17 to 15
Young Link SSBM.jpg
Two clones that see more tournament success than their originals and didn't get to appear in more than one game. Does the extra speed or extra power make the difference?

Votes for Dr. Mario[edit]

  1. Always liked him more. He's "better" anyway. c: Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 09:56, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  2. The fist. Also, Shroomed. Also, I find Dr. Mario to be much much more interesting to watch at high level play, while Armada v.s. Hungrybox as Young Link is campy as hell. I also like playing as Doc better, so why not? --Timson622222 (talk) 15:54, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  3. I'm sick and need a doctor. And how is Young Link different from Link? SeanWheeler (talk) 16:34, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  4. Dr. Mario is actually my favorite melee character. I always unlock him first.--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 17:17, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  5. I have no idea how Young Link is higher tiered than Link. 18:02, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  6. Because: Nurse Peach, Megavitamins, high tier placement, the series' only reverse sex kick, awesome headgear, a swaggin'-ass Taunt, and that sweet, sweet Fist... :3 Oasidu (talk) 23:51, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  7. And both are clones of my mains. Dr. Mario is closer to Mario than Young Link is to Toon Link, so I guess I'm voting this way. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 16:38, 4 November 2013 (EST)
  8. Meh. I just prefer Doc. MarioGalaxy (talk) 13:56, 5 November 2013 (EST)
  9. For some reason, seems less of a clone to me.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 17:51, 6 November 2013 (EST)
  10. Young Link is the character I play the worst as in Melee. 04:50, 8 November 2013 (EST)
  11. Dr. Mario was so good they had to take him out of Brawl, whereas Young Link got cloned again! Jellybeanman (talk) 17:37, 8 November 2013 (EST)
  12. Dr. Mario and Link are similar; they are (obviously) better than Mario and Young Link, respectively (and they can both juggle better, LOL). Go Dr. Mario! Requiem fo Ice (talk) 20:15, 8 November 2013 (EST)
  13. Dr. Mario is higher tier. Plus, I've always been more familiar with the Mario series. So, Dr. M gets my vote. 23:21, 9 November 2013 (EST)
  14. I like the Mario universe better than the Link universe. 19:52, 10 November 2013 (EST)
  15. Time for your daily medication! 17:46, 11 November 2013 (EST)
  16. Dr. Mario kicks, like, multiple asses. Vuela Vuela, baby talk 21:26, 11 November 2013 (EST)
  17. He's my main, the games are great, and Dr. Mario is just a funny concept. --MMAI.pngMeMyselfAndI 11:47, 14 November 2013 (EST)

Votes for Young Link[edit]

  1. The Hero of Time is overpowered in speedruns, he can even beat Ganon with a pointed stick. :P Dots MewtwoMS.png The G-Man 10:19, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  2. 12:34, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  3. Dr. Mario The Plumber is not my main on melee, young link the elf is. --Igor The Mii (talk) 19:30, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  4. He's way more important in Nintendo's history than Doc. Sloth (I am NOT Sloth) 20:23, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
  5. Pity vote. 10:41, 4 November 2013 (EST)
  6. Cute94.98.240.14 12:31, 4 November 2013 (EST)
  7. never played ssbm,but link is better{This message is brought to you by MetaMewtwoSoul} 16:35, 4 November 2013 (EST)
  8. Link, no matter what. 20:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)
  9. This song is so soothing. ChuckNorris24.png 21:03, 5 November 2013 (EST)
  10. Fire arrows! --Dinoboy411 (talk) 21:25, 10 November 2013 (EST)
  11. Young Link does not seem much of a clone with his fire attacks. 13:56, 12 November 2013 (EST)
  12. Majora's Mask. Plain and simple. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 23:48, 13 November 2013 (EST)
  13. Young Link is an underrated character, I'll vote for him! 04:15, 16 November 2013 (EST)
  14. Grew up playing as Young Link in Ocarina. Multus Valde (talk) 09:21, 16 November 2013 (EST)
  15. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 11:42, 16 November 2013 (EST)


Young Link and Dr.Mario are both SUPER clones. But (this time,) I prefer speed over strength.EpicLuigiDude (talk) 07:40, 3 November 2013 (EST)

There's a decent chance I won't be capable of uploading a new round this week, just so you know. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Awesome 08:36, 8 November 2013 (EST)

Dr. Mario is quite the challenge when playing against someone. Requiem fo Ice (talk) 20:20, 8 November 2013 (EST)

The comments section is probably not the place to post your opinions. Creating another forum about it is probably the better place. Dots (talk) MewtwoMS.png The Kirby 20:24, 8 November 2013 (EST)
Ah, okay. I will actually change it, then. Thanks for informing me. Requiem fo Ice (talk) 20:28, 8 November 2013 (EST)

@Requiem of Ice: Young Link is actually ranked higher than Link on the tier list... Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 06:03, 9 November 2013 (EST)

That was a terrible mistake. I see NOTHING that could make Young Link better than Link. Sure, Young Link may be faster and smaller, but that's just it, nothing else from my POV. Requiem fo Ice (talk) 12:47, 9 November 2013 (EST)
I see that it's your opinion though. By the way, Smash Arena isn't for arguments, so we shouldn't continue this. I was just pointing it out Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 12:49, 9 November 2013 (EST)
Of course; I did get a bit carried away. Requiem fo Ice (talk) 13:07, 9 November 2013 (EST)
imo I think that YL is higher because of Armada and Axe mostly, not much else (lack of representation is what brings Link down) --Timson622222 (talk) 16:52, 9 November 2013 (EST)
Well, lack of representation shouldn't really be what makes a character good or bad; it should/always is how people play the characters. Also, have you heard of CCDJMC (crouch cancelled double jump momentum cancel) or anything like that?Requiem fo Ice (talk) 19:38, 9 November 2013 (EST)

Not to be offensive or anything but I noticed that there are five votes to Young Link that appear quite similar to each other. I can tell because those five users all wrote down "Young Link <insert compliment>." and they all didn't space their signature from their comment text where usually users do space them. Whether it is to inflate the votes to Young Link's side or something, it's suspicious. Dots (talk) MewtwoMS.png The Metal Gear REX 19:01, 11 November 2013 (EST)

Not to mention, all the usernames appear to be one-word red links. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 22:16, 11 November 2013 (EST)

Whoever casted votes 12, 13, 14, 16, and 17 for Young Link, please read SW:SOCK. Thanks. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 22:12, 11 November 2013 (EST)

Would've been better to report suspected sockpuppetry on the admin noticeboard. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Brass 22:19, 11 November 2013 (EST)

When is the new battle coming up? It's already Monday night! FireMario1534 (talk) 07:45, 11 November 2013 (EST)

Calm down dude. Didn't you just see the post that Toomai said that there is a chance that he won't be be uploading a new round this week? People sometimes need a break from things they always do. Dots (talk) MewtwoMS.png The Justice 22:51, 11 November 2013 (EST)

Round 212: Bowser vs. Petey Piranha[edit]

Bowser SSBB.jpg
Bowser SSBB.jpg

17 to 4
Two of Mario's recurring enemies with distinctive roars and breath projectiles - which green is more mean?

Votes for Bowser[edit]

  1. Dots (talk) MewtwoMS.png The Penguin 13:09, 16 November 2013 (EST)
  2. MMMMM! God, this is close but I gotta pick the Koopa King. He destroys Mario Kart, has that awesome clown car, and is seriously a powerful guy. Apples to oranges this round, but Bowser prevails. Oasidu (talk) 15:34, 16 November 2013 (EST)
  3. Going for broke here. Requiem of Ice (talk) 20:25, 16 November 2013 (EST)
  4. meh 20:59, 16 November 2013 (EST)
  5. Cant play as Petey! --Dinoboy411 (talk) 00:20, 17 November 2013 (EST)
  6. This was a close one but Bowser is a classic. FireMario1534 (talk) 00:36, 17 November 2013 (EST)
  7. Bowser is awesome and I'm more familiar with him37.106.189.98 10:48, 17 November 2013 (EST)
  8. Bowser is a beast. Sartron (talk) 12:44, 17 November 2013 (EST)
  9. 10:10, 18 November 2013 (EST)
  10. Gtrainer108 (talk) 14:28, 18 November 2013 (EST)
  11. Bowser is simply boss. 22:09, 18 November 2013 (EST)
  12. Because he's Bowzer.--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 23:06, 18 November 2013 (EST)
  13. I can no damage Petey Piranha every single time. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 02:55, 19 November 2013 (EST)
  14. cooler.way cooler MetaMewtwoSoul} 07:14, 19 November 2013 (EST)
  15. Bowser says RAWR! ChuckNorris24.png 17:55, 21 November 2013 (EST)
  16. He is playable Jellybeanman (talk) 21:59, 21 November 2013 (EST)
  17. Bowser isn't a plant with teeth and legs..... Multus Valde (talk) 03:28, 22 November 2013 (EST)

Votes for Petey Piranha[edit]

  1. p Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 13:13, 16 November 2013 (EST)
  2. Bowser has no tech skill because he is DJ Nintendo. (yeah I've really never liked Bowser) --Timson622222 (talk) 13:23, 16 November 2013 (EST)
  3. Super Mario Sunshine. nuf' said. 16:33, 16 November 2013 (EST)
  4. Petey Piranha and King Boo are an awesome duo. Boo Buddy MeganiumMS.png 16:43, 16 November 2013 (EST)


Bowser is more powerful than Petey! Based on Super Mario Galaxy 2 Bowser is pretty tough —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 19:30, 17 November 2013‎

Grin, not green. 19:55, 22 November 2013 (EST)

Round 213: Fox vs. Andross[edit]

Fox SSBB.jpg
Fox SSBB.jpg

15.5 to 4.5
Andross (N64) Trophy Melee.png
The next goodie vs. baddie matchup features some dude with a tail and some other mad scientist guy. They don't like each other very much. Brilliant flavour here.

Votes for Fox[edit]

  1. Andross is an ugly ass. And besides, I'm pretty good with Fox in every smash game. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 11:37, 23 November 2013 (EST)
  2. Andross can be pretty easy to defeat in Star Fox and Star Fox 64. :P Dots (talk) MewtwoMS.png The Scout 11:46, 23 November 2013 (EST)
  3. Fox is actually playable in Brawl...and Melee...and 64. Requiem of Ice (talk) 11:58, 23 November 2013 (EST)
  4. Let's see Andross waveshine someone from mid percent to death and then we'll talk. --Timson622222 (talk) 12:14, 23 November 2013 (EST)
  5. What does the fox say? "Say your prayers Andross!!" Although I was expecting Andross's Assist Trophy image though. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 14:58, 23 November 2013 (EST)
  6. Fox is way too cheap--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 15:27, 23 November 2013 (EST)
  7. 19:59, 23 November 2013 (EST)
  8. 21:25, 23 November 2013 (EST)
  9. Cos' he's playable. C'mon Andross, waveshine for me. You can't? That's what I thought. FireMario1534 10:52, 24 November 2013 (EST)
  10. I've always found enjoyment in the Starfox games. So, Fox Mc.Cloud gets my vote :p 12:17, 24 November 2013 (EST)
  11. Bighead85721 (talk) 21:29, 24 November 2013 (EST)
  12. Andross is WIERD.716Xerneas.pngMetaMewtwoSoul600px-Yveltal.png 16:05, 25 November 2013 (EST)
  13. I've never played star fox but I've played SSBB and SSBM159.0.157.25 11:03, 26 November 2013 (EST)
  14. Andross just looks weird in Melee. Brawl's design is preety good, but my vote is with Fox Multus Valde (talk) 04:36, 28 November 2013 (EST)
  15. Heroes win. SeanWheeler (talk) 10:45, 29 November 2013 (EST)


  1. Same as the above vote. Also, Andross is just a lame assist trophy. If you can beat Shadow of the Wolf, that's proof that Fox can take down Andross. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Planterobloon (talkcontribs) 18:28, 26 November 2013 (GMT)

Votes for Andross[edit]

  1. Playing as the space animals has always been boring for me. Not to mention that Andross always scored KOs for me in SSBB :P. -- 14:02, 24 November 2013 (EST)
  2. Pity vote. 11:19, 25 November 2013 (EST)
  3. Poor Andross. Nobody likes him :( ChuckNorris24.png 08:17, 27 November 2013 (EST)
  4. Never seen Fox at teh top of a tier list, now have you? Chuck the Duck (talk) 18:23, 27 November 2013 (EST)


  1. I just wanted to give andross a vote. mrsecret? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 04:59, 24 November 2013 (GMT)


Fox is an awesome character he cold defeat him! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:36, 26 November 2013 (EST)

Round 214: Waluigi vs. Knuckle Joe[edit]

Waluigi Assist Trophy.jpg
Knuckle Joe
Knuckle Joe.jpg

13 to 19.5
Knuckle Joe.jpg
These two Assist Trophies will get in your face, pummel you a few times, and blast you off the screen. They kinda have similar poses in these images, too...

Votes for Waluigi[edit]

  1. waluigi is a great character.Tabuu king 8 (talk) 12:57, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  2. Waluigi doesen't get enough love 00:26, 1 December 2013 (EST)
  3. I know more about Waluigi than Knuckle Joe. SeanWheeler (talk) 21:07, 1 December 2013 (EST)
  4. Waluigi has the most beautiful dancing skills on the planet. -- 21:17, 2 December 2013 (EST)
  5. The purpleness!!!!!!!!! It's... It's too much to handle!!!!! FireMario1534 23:29, 2 December 2013 (EST)
  6. Nothing beats the tennis racket! 03:25, 3 December 2013 (EST)
  7. Purple beats Blue. 10:41, 3 December 2013 (EST)
  8. In a hack you can play as Waluigi. 03:34, 4 December 2013 (EST)
  9. Waluigi is Number 1! Waluigi Time! 13:05, 4 December 2013 (EST)
  10. I like Waluigi. .<. -- 18:51, 4 December 2013 (EST)
  11. Waluigi deserves to be playable for once! He's got my vote! Multus Valde (talk) 23:41, 4 December 2013 (EST)
  12. Why doesn't anyone like Waluigi? ChuckNorris24.png 16:53, 5 December 2013 (EST)
  13. Walugi needs to be playable! Harro (talk) 22:31, 5 December 2013 (EST)

Votes for Knuckle Joe[edit]

  1. I would have to say Knuckle Joe is the most effective Assist Trophy in Brawl. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 09:38, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  2. I don't like Waluigi .>. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 09:39, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  3. Fighter Kirby is one of the best copy abilities. Awesome Cardinal 2000 10:08, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  4. Waluigi is the most pointless Nintendo character in history. He never appeared in a main series Mario game. Plus using the fighter ability is fun in Kirby Super Star. Dots (talk) MewtwoMS.png The Mushroom 10:21, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  5. Fighter ability is awesome, and he's an automatic KO. 12:30, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  6. Knuckle Joe for SSSSSSS tier --Timson622222 (talk) 15:11, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  7. I prefer Kirby to Wario games. 15:14, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  8. Waluigi has trouble linking his attacks to each other. 16:08, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  9. Knuckle Joe gives the fighter ability which means Kirby really good. Waluigi is just awkward too. Sartron (talk) 18:47, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  10. Blue 21:29, 30 November 2013 (EST)
  11. Kirby is only my favorite series ever. --Dinoboy411 (talk) 07:03, 1 December 2013 (EST)
  12. I like Knuckle Joe better. Smash Master 15:26, 1 December 2013 (EST)
  13. 12:13, 2 December 2013 (EST)
  14. I like Kirby better,and Knuckle Joe is sooooo powerfulMetaMewtwoSoul600px-Yveltal.png 16:01, 2 December 2013 (EST)
  15. the fighter ability that you get from this guy in the Kirby franchise is one of the best to many opinions
  16. I have no idea who this guy is, but he's really good and he's facing FREAKIN' WALUIGI! Of course he's gonna win! Planterobloon (talk) 18:47, 2 December 2013 (EST)
  17. Hate waluigi but don't really no knuckle joe, random vote37.106.176.60 12:29, 5 December 2013 (EST)
  18. I LOOOOOVVVE Waluigi, but damnit, Joey's a fighter after my own heart... OP as hell, too. *Knuckle Joe v. Little Mac SSB6 2021* Oasidu (talk) 23:16, 6 December 2013 (EST)
  19. I love kirby, plus waluigi will probaly never appear in a mario main series game.--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 12:13, 7 December 2013 (EST)


  1. waluigi sucks —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 00:00, 1 December 2013 (GMT)


Guys my comment in the knuckle joe section says that its comment 1 where it should be somewhere around 19. What happened?--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 12:17, 7 December 2013 (EST)

That was a formatting error Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 12:21, 7 December 2013 (EST)

Oh ok--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 12:22, 7 December 2013 (EST)

Round 215: Samus vs. Zero Suit Samus[edit]

Samus SSBB.jpg
Zero Suit Samus
Zero Suit Samus SSBB.jpg

5 to 14
Zero Suit Samus SSBB.jpg
We've seen this fight before, but with a different base of voters, how will the result change?

Votes for Samus[edit]

  1. More suits = more power. -- 15:15, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  2. Samus is more iconic and I just like her better in her suit. --Dinoboy411 (talk) 19:27, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  3. Samus can't explore alien worlds without at least some protection from the environments. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 19:48, 8 December 2013 (EST)
  4. Pity Vote. 11:47, 9 December 2013 (EST)
  5. I like how Samus always fools people to think shes a man XD Harro (talk) 04:41, 13 December 2013 (EST)

Votes for Zero Suit Samus[edit]

  1. Killing is much easier with ZSS, and is more fluid. 14:12, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  2. The only thing better than Samus is Samus. --HavocReaper48 14:44, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  3. I'll vote for her since she's better than Power Suit Samus. Requiem of Ice (talk) 15:13, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  4. Really good down smash and aerials and stuff. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 15:17, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  5. Dots (talk) MewtwoMS.png The Metal Slug 16:26, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  6. Fits my style of play more than Power Suit. --Timson622222 (talk) 17:28, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  7. Funner. -- 18:11, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  8. Samus lost all of her KO potential. 19:57, 7 December 2013 (EST)
  9. I think she is stronger37.106.176.60 09:01, 8 December 2013 (EST)
  10. Kenniky (talk) 17:00, 8 December 2013 (EST)
  11. Hot! Her Zero Suit actually makes her look more like a girl than her Master Chief-style armor. Seriously, when you first look at Samus' power suit, would you instantly know she's female? Nope, you'd assume she's a man. And the obvious feminine is more sexy than the ambiguous female. SeanWheeler (talk) 18:34, 8 December 2013 (EST)
  12. This is why samus is female so it gets my vote--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 19:34, 8 December 2013 (EST)
  13. I don't know 15:44, 10 December 2013 (EST)
  14. She fits my playing style better. I hope she is a separate character in SSB4. ChuckNorris24.png 16:04, 11 December 2013 (EST)


Link vs Young Link next? Or what about the entire Melee cast for once? But onto topic, I like the same-character rematch. But I hope to see another match like this (Link vs Snake?) Requiem of Ice (talk) 22:06, 7 December 2013 (EST)

You can use Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions to suggest fights. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 09:39, 8 December 2013 (EST)
Thanks. Requiem of Ice (talk) 14:44, 8 December 2013 (EST)