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Round 181: Falco vs. Olimar[edit]

Falco Lombardi in Super Smash Bros. Melee.

15.5 to 15.5
Olimar SSBB.jpg
One tall and one short, one boasting and one humble, one individual and one delegating - yet both top tier and ready to fight.

Votes for Falco[edit]

  1. You used the Melee Picture--BrianDon't try me!Falco.gif 20:39, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  2. Oh ya. ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 21:56, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  3. More challenging. Always ruins my DACUS with that darn blaster when I need to use it the most. --Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png Doing the DACUS 21:58, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  4. He's my secondary in Brawl.Awesome Cardinal 2000 23:13, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  5. Falcon Pun... oh wait wrong character. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Lamp 23:40, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  6. I never liked facing Olimar. I'm more familiar with Falco. --HavocReaper48 00:55, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  7. I even named my cat Falco, so... Too bad he went missing a few days ago and is now probably dead ;_;--PSIWolf a.k.a. Luna! 04:36, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  8. Falco is awesome in both Star Fox and Smash Bros. Also he's my main in Melee. 05:24, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  9. Because Star Fox > Pikmin. Air Conditioner Image for Accoolx's signature. likes pie 10:46, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  10. Pikmin sucks! SmashBall the Handsome (talk) 15:42, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  11. To me, Falco is meh. This vote is solely because I ******* HATE OLIMAR!!! 13:00, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
  12. Somehow, I can manage SHDLs in WiFi lag. Also, Falco is a clone of my older brother's main. BlueRidiculous 14:17, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
  13. laser lock Fedorakeeby11For usage in Fedorakeeby11's signature. Failcon Pawch!! 08:13, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. I am a lot better with Falco. 19:23, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. Falco FTW173.79.214.38 15:49, 3 April 2013 (EDT)


  1. DO A BARREL ROLL!Color|red|air —Preceding unsigned comment added by griffin947 (talkcontribs) 16:17, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Olimar[edit]

  1. This dude packs quite a wallop, I tell you what. Granted, Olimar can be quite a headache to master. But I'm starting to get the hang of it. Bowser, Ganondorf, Ike, your hearts out! 22:02, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  2. I think he's better than Falco. Simple as that.Tepig (talk) 22:45, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
  3. Currently losing. 04:34, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  4. He has a helmet! Terrible is St. Patrick 09:18, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  5. One-man army < actual army. infernape612 11:06, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  6. Pikmin 2 is my favorite game. Never played Star Fox. What's that you say? This match is about the characters in Smash, not the games they come from? Hmm. -- 18:07, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
  7. Because Falco's side-B has gotten me killed more times than I've used him.My Unit 12:10, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
  8. 16:51, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
  9. F.T.B. (TALK) Zoso.svg 14:56, 1 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. Currently higher on the tier list. 10:41, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. You all know who I'd Pik. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumA transparent image of Swadloon for my sig. 11:01, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. Very close. Only because of falco's dash thingey that always gets me off the stage and helpless. CaptainNStrike (talk) 11:28, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. Just to tie things up. 11:31, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. I just like him better. Crazy Hand (talk) CrazyHand.jpg 18:14, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. HE IS AWESOME! User talk: Plucked Pikmin 12:39, 3 April 2013 (EDT)


  1. He is actually from a decent game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 13:34, 4 April 2013 (EDT)


I actually think (although this is a little late) Falco would top Olimar even though he brags.-- 15:11, 7 April 2013 (EDT)

Round 182: Peach's Castle vs. Hyrule Castle[edit]

Peach's Castle

25 to 17
Epic castles on green grounds that serve as two of the first arenas in the series. With roofs as red and green as their protagonists' and rulers of equal job descriptions, which stone sanctuary besieges the other?

Votes for Peach's Castle[edit]

  1. --HavocReaper48 01:13, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. Super Mario 64. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 01:50, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. James is my man.--PSIWolf a.k.a. Luna! 07:09, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. SM64. Terrible is April Showers 13:54, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. Magical paintings, don't go saying peach's castle = no magic. Fedorakeeby11For usage in Fedorakeeby11's signature. Failcon Pawch!! 07:14, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. If it were on the basis of the Super Smash Bros. stages themselves, then I'd go Hyrule. But as it's the castles themselves, I love to go around Peach's Castle in Super Mario 64 DS, dialogue hunting. Hyrule Castle... Spoilers Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumA transparent image of Swadloon for my sig. 08:36, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. What James said. 14:34, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. I just like Mario better.Tepig (talk) 14:38, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  9. Peaches Castle. Mario FTW! -- 15:07, 7 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. Mario 64 is a game of which I have many fond memories. RickTommy 04:07, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. SM64, Mariokart 64, and Paper Mario (in space!). Plus, I just like Mario better. Crazy Hand (talk) CrazyHand.jpg 10:03, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. 11:17, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. I just love Mario better than Zelda. SmashBall the Handsome (talk) 21:31, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. It has big slides. I don't recall seeing anything like that in Hyrule castle. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 23:19, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. A great trip! ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 00:04, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  16. Because I felt like voting for this castle. 10:07, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  17. I greatly dislike LoZ. I greatly love Mario. Lugiaboy202 (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  18. Peach's Castle is the only one I'm familiar with, plus I know it's better. User:Plucked Pikmin 13:54, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  19. What James said. Smash Master 16:43, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  20. Never really liked zelda, but i really like super mario 64 ds Baconlover9090 (talk) 17:56, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  21. You didnt really do much at Hyrule Castle in OoT. Unknown the Hedgehog 21:21, 10 April 2013 (EDT)
  22. I like this castle better because I don't really play the Legend of Zelda. Pokebub (talk) 21:02, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
  23. Mario games > Zelda games. =3 08:20, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
  24. Running around this castle was my childhood passtime.--GameWinter (talk) 15:58, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
  25. DANG IT IF I WOULD'VE VOTED LAST TIME OLIMAR WOULD'VE WON!!!! ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 18:10, 12 April 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Hyrule Castle[edit]

  1. If the Mushroom Kingdom gets a different ruler, they would have to change the name of Peach's Castle. That isn't a problem in Hyrule Castle; it keeps its name, regardless of the ruler. 00:07, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. Ocarina of Time for the win. :D Dots MewtwoMS.png The Wolf 00:10, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. duh DoctorPain99DP99Majora.png 00:26, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. Looks cooler. 02:35, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. Looks more like a real castle. Awesome Cardinal 2000 07:09, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. I played both games, but I'll be darned if sneaking into a castle isn't considered fun. I also enjoy Oot so much. -- Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png 09:12, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. Zelda has magic. Peach has... vegetables? Shouldn't it be fruit that she usually uses? 11:10, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. 11:54, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  9. Zelda is cooler. infernape612 12:19, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. Peach's Castle is too fruity. BlueRidiculous 14:57, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. Who would bother playing a serious match on Peach's Castle? Not me, so I'll vote Hyrule Castle. 19:09, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. This is where the final match of TRG's SSB64 Tournament took place. Toadat9021doh (talk) 20:52, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. Far more enjoyable stage. 00:54, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. I just think this is from a cooler series Griffin94719:04, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. Hyrule Castle, in my opinion, is designed better, is much less garish, actually has some semblance of security, and is helmed by a relatively competent ruler. Also, you don't wanna underestimate The King. Hawk 21PSIWolf sig 1.pngTalk 16:05, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
  16. I fell in love with Zelda with OoT. Plus, this is the only stage used in SSB. in Peru, and they're no joke. Doomolish (talk) 02:00, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
  17. I prefer Link to Mario and Zelda to Peach. 09:10, 9 April 2013 (EDT)


Round 183: Knee Smash vs. Falcon Punch[edit]

Knee Smash.png
Knee Smash
Knee Smash.png

16 to 15
Taken from Smash Bros. DOJO!!
While the former is certainly less memetic than the latter, it tends to be significantly more useful in-game. Which move earns top spot?

Votes for Knee Smash[edit]

  1. Very much more satisfying when you land this one, it feels like a much more solid hit. 23:25, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. Falcon Punch can get cancelled by Jigglypuff's neutral attack. 05:15, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. I played Street Fighter for the Playstation with my sister yesterday as Allen. I KO'd her character with a knee attack, to which I said: "Knee of Justice! Oh, wait, that's Captain Falcon." Lugiaboy202 (talk) 07:29, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. Much as I'd like to claim I kneerly voted the other way, I've always favoured the Knee Smash. I think it's more satisfying and entertaining to land. Plus, Ganondorf doesn't have a superior version of this move. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumA transparent image of Swadloon for my sig. 08:16, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. I have seen a couple of Captain Falcon combo videos, and most of them always finish off the opponent with a well landed Knee Smash. -- Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png 08:44, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. Falcon Punch is slower.--PSIWolf a.k.a. Luna! 09:17, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. Right you are, previous voter. Falcon Punch is pretty lacking in practicality. Knee Smash beats the banjos out of Falcon Punch any 'ole day of the week. 11:25, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. Much more of a surprising attack, therefore, more effective :o Lucas-IV- CREEP MCLucas.png
  9. They're both overrated pieces of stupidity I personally prefer this one. Fedorakeeby11For usage in Fedorakeeby11's signature. Failcon Pawch!! 06:40, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 11:25, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. This move almost single-handedly made Falcon top tier in Melee.--BrianDon't try me!Falco.gif 12:24, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. Do I need to explain? Terrible is April Showers 12:40, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Ultimate Chimera 09:01, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. He electricutes people with his knee. How does that even work? 21:45, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. He doesn't scream out the name of the move...Crazy Hand (talk) CrazyHand.jpg 10:03, 17 April 2013 (EDT)
  16. No other move provides the awesomeness and practicality the knee of justice does. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 21:28, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Falcon Punch[edit]

  1. scene from the anime. 23:41, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. More well known. 00:03, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. FALCON PAWNCH!!!!!! Does Knee Smash have any cool sound effect?Awesome Cardinal 2000 07:46, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. The ultimate in badass finishers. infernape612 15:08, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. The flame effects. Gotta love 'em! SmashBall the Milkshake (talk) 17:13, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. knee smash, compare that to falcon punch! Griffin947DP99Majora.png19:24, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. Do I even need to say why? 03:05, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. FALCON PUNCH!!!!!!!!!!! Plucked Pikmin 11:17, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  9. I love this musicTepig (talk) 12:47, 15 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. Screw knee smash, falcon punch all the way. FALCON PAWWWWWNNNNNNCCCHH.-- 05:00, 16 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. UN Owen was Captain Falcon 10:28, 17 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. YESZ! I propose we try and make this a tie, since both are needed to perform a Sacred Combo. Lyra (talk) 21:46, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. Screw practicality. --HavocReaper48 00:07, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. How can the Falcon Punch lose? ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 15:53, 19 April 2013 (EDT)


  1. I pick meme over Knee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 15:00, 16 April 2013
  2. It does catastrophic damage.User:My Unit18:50, 19 April 2013 (EDT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by My Unit (talkcontribs) 20:51, 19 April 2013 (EDT)


I'm really surprised the Falcon Punch lost. 08:15, 27 April 2013 (EDT)

Round 184: Trophies vs. Stickers[edit]


17.5 to 5
Collectibles showing off Nintendo's history in different ways. Which form of expression shows up the other?

Votes for Trophies[edit]

  1. These give you information about the subject, whereas stickers don't. 22:51, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. There are more 'challenge' trophies than 'challenge' stickers. 03:32, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. Got really sick of collecting stickers after a while, especially when I only had a few left and they were the randomly generated ones, whereas I always enjoyed collecting trophies and reading their information. 07:52, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. Because this came first. Terrible is April Showers 07:54, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. The last 50 stickers require too much luck to get. At least getting all the trophies isn't nearly as tedious. 11:00, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. I don't think getting stickers are very rewarding to me since its just something to put on an object. But trophies are rewarding since you did something remarkable and you can place it in your bedroom to remember it in your life. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Blue 11:47, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. You need all the stickers if you want to complete your trophy list, unless you use a golden hammer but that's cheap. Shanderu MiniGhost.png 14:58, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. Trophies are very awesome. Baconlover9090 (talk) 17:45, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  9. 21:41, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. Stickers are flat and 2-dimensional. TROPHIES are 3D. Nuff said. SmashBall the Milkshake (talk) 22:38, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. Stickers...aren't terribly exciting to me. Also, I find trophies to be far more aesthetically appealing, and they are also accompanied by text that describe the character(s) or object(s) in question. Likewise, Brawl's stickers amount to little more than online search engine image cutouts, and they are about as common as grass, the fact they enhance your characters' stats in the Subspace Emissary notwithstanding. Hawk 21PSIWolf sig 1.pngTalk 22:47, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. I think Hawk21 just said everything for me. Lugiaboy202 (talk) 14:11, 22 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. SSBBNess (talk) SSBBNess sig image.png 07:56, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. Trophies are more rewarding. When I get a new one, I get very happy. But stickers are very common. And I doesn't even use stickers in The Subspace Emissary.Tepig (talk) 12:17, 24 April 2013 (EDT)
  15. Stickers are 1-dimentional. ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 23:45, 24 April 2013 (EDT)
  16. They're in both games, and it's a lot easier to get all of them than all of the stickers (except for the trophy you get for getting all the stickers, of course :P). Not to mention you can learn a lot of history from them - I know I did. RickTommy 22:42, 25 April 2013 (EDT)
  17. I like trophies. They're my friends. ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 08:13, 27 April 2013 (EDT)


  1. The trophies are like collectable action figures,but in a game. Stickers, you waste one, its wasted forever. I prefer trophies better.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 23:22, 20 April 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Stickers[edit]

  1. I just like the sound made when collecting them. 03:33, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. Stickers power you up in SSE. infernape612 10:04, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. I haven't used these in Adventure Mode, but I bring out the first-grader in me and make collages with stickers. 11:15, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. FAILCON PUNCH DOESN'T ALWAYS WIN!! I'm in a mario mood, so this is for Paper Mario: Sticker Star. Fedorakeeby11For usage in Fedorakeeby11's signature. Failcon Pawch!! 20:06, 20 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. /\ Sticker Star is great until the puzzles start to require stickers from half the game ago that you probably used already. Then it sucks. At least the boss fights are epic. Why am I voting for stickers again? -- 23:08, 20 April 2013 (EDT)


I like trophies. 15:15, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Round 185: Master Hand vs. Crazy Hand[edit]

Master Hand

16 to 15
Last time this dualistic duo went down, it was a 7-7 tie. Will a symmetric rematch have a different result?

Votes for Master Hand[edit]

  1. Master Hand is a really underrated boss in Brawl (in term of difficulty), not many seem to realise how difficult he actually is on the highest difficulties in Classic, and how much he carries the Hand duo in Brawl. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 11:10, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. I'm a righty. Awesome Cardinal 2000 12:13, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. I think that Master Hand is just more fun to fight, I don't know why. 12:38, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. The original is always the best. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 13:27, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. 13:31, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. I love master hand . Each time i fight master hand it puts a smile on my faceSmash X 5432 (talk) 13:34, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Metal Slug 13:55, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  8. The original. 14:26, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  9. Master Hand is in all three games. Plus, he has a role in the Subspace Emissary. 18:04, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  10. He is soooo much better than Crazy Hand.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 00:52, 28 April 2013 (EDT)
  11. He was in the SSE! Nuff said! SmashBall the Bologna (talk) 10:56, 28 April 2013 (EDT)
  12. The two are pretty much the same, but this one came first. Plus it appears in the SSE.Tepig (talk) 17:54, 28 April 2013 (EDT)
  13. The original and thus better. Naked Snake 200px-Naked Snake.jpg 18:33, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
  14. The right hand for me. ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 16:18, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
  15. The original and best. ChuckNorrisFor usage in ChuckNorris24's signature. 20:27, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
  16. Was there since the beginning of the series. Toadat9021doh (talk) 23:42, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Crazy Hand[edit]

  1. Thinking about Crazy Taxi... Terrible is April Showers 13:29, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  2. This mate is lot more interesting than Master Hand. 14:04, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  3. Crazy annoying, plus I have a unique side. Fedorakeeby11For usage in Fedorakeeby11's signature. Potato potato potato!! 15:39, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  4. I always destroy Master Hand until this guy shows up. -- 18:03, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  5. Crazy hand is better than master hand.Baconlover9090 (talk) 19:25, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  6. Master Hand has ended many more runs of Boss Battles Mode. Mainly because of that damn flick attack. It's always fun to encounter Crazy Hand in Classic, too. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumA transparent image of Swadloon for my sig. 21:00, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
  7. Rock, paper, scissors, Crazy wins. infernape612 15:59, 1 May 2013 (EDT)
  8. Crazy is awesome! Plucked Pikmin 13:05, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
  9. Crazy Hand has a much more fun fight and is much better animated than Master Hand. GadgieKid (talk) 15:26, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
  10. Master Hand is the right choice, but I am a supercrazyduperguywholikesrightthatisleftytytytyt (yeah I'm insane) 16:49, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
  11. He's the essence of destruction and darkness, plus he flails about crazily!!! Crazy Hand (talk) CrazyHand.jpg 18:10, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
  12. When I fight these two together, I always go for Master Hand first, because I love seeing what Crazy Hand will do. Lugiaboy202 (talk) 20:00, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
  13. I love this uhm, thing. It's awesome!, almost as crazy as me. Doomolish (talk) 00:37, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
  14. master hand is noob crazy hand is the best hand he is beaster than master handRoyalRapids (talk) 19:46, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Half Votes[edit]

  1. Crazy hand has to save Master hand's sorry butt not the other way around.Besides Master is easy on even intense mode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 18:31, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
  2. Half vote to make a tie. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 20:07, 3 May 2013 (EDT)


Wasn't this match already done before? 15:15, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Yes, it was done before. However, it got enough support to justify doing it again. If you didn't vote in this matchup before, consider yourself lucky! 17:08, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

I think the next battle should be Toomai vs OmegaTyrant.Baconlover9090 (talk) 19:40, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Administrators are equally valuable to any other contributor. Awesome Cardinal 2000 21:51, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
This was suggested previously; combatants must have appeared in a Smash Bros. game. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Incomprehensible 22:20, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
But why do they have to appear in a smash game? One battle was the announcers for the 3 games, and they aren't technically "in" the game.Baconlover9090 (talk) 07:24, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
You're probably "in" SmashWiki right now as you read this, right? Look at it more figuratively. Toomai could probably link you to the place where that was suggested, so you could see why it was turned down. Awesome Cardinal 2000 07:59, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
"Why"? Because that's one of the rules; it's why we don't have things like "Fight between two characters that the fans want in the next game". Toomai Glittershine ??? The Indescribable 08:48, 4 May 2013 (EDT)