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Round 196: Sheik vs. Zero Suit Samus[edit]

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Zero Suit Samus
Zero Suit Samus SSBB.jpg

7 to 18
Zero Suit Samus SSBB.jpg
It's a rematch of agile blue-clothed alternate characters. The last one was close, will the result be the same?

Votes for Sheik[edit]

  1. I'm getting a little tired of voting for Zelde-related stuff, but I just want to make the outcome different this time. 23:59, 19 July 2013 (EDT)
  2. Sheik always struck me as a ninja. plus, I'm good with her. 10:55, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  3. He's the manliest of men! JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 12:55, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  4. 14:52, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  5. I hate w*****. Terrible is Terrible 16:04, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  6. I don't really like Sheik, but she's better than Zero Suit Samus, so I'll vote for Sheik.Multus Valde (talk) 04:42, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
  7. shiek!!!!! --Igor The Mii (talk) 21:00, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Zero Suit Samus[edit]

  1. I'm sorry, but she's much more attractive that a woman dressed as a man. DoctorPain99 23:23, 19 July 2013 (EDT)
  2. What DoctorPain99 said, plus, she's hawt. -- Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:25, 19 July 2013 (EDT)
  3. First time voting :] Shiek is Zelda in her Prime, Zero Suit is Samus going easy on you. Malake256 (talk) 01:04, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  4. She is hot!Boo Buddy (talk) 03:50, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  5. I don't see anything special about her... Dots MewtwoMS.png The Medic 10:06, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  6. I don't like Sheik at all, I'll tell you what. 13:33, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  7. She's better than her with her power suit. Now that makes her epic. Plus Metroid Zero Mission is cool. --- Conanshinichi 14:05, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  8. dat ass Bandit 14:43, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  9. I like Sheik, but Zero Suit Samus is downright fun to play as! Washi (talk) 14:46, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  10. Down smash. Stunning is awesome. Scr7Wolfsig.png 16:47, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  11. Even though I barely use both characters, I'm better with zero suit Samus, because she has a decently powerful electric whip and is stronger than sheik. Plus everything the guy below me said. TheAtomicFirePichuHeadSSBM.png (talk) 17:14, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  12. A character who can actually KO, has better range, can recover much safer, and doesn't have the falling speed of a boulder which would get her in pikachu's chaingrab. LightningBlue405MS.png 19:17, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
  13. Better character design. Also, come on guys, do you have to be stereotypical and pick Zamus because "she's hot"? Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 01:08, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
  14. Samus? Respond! Responnnnnnnnnn... ChuckNorris24.png 09:19, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
  15. It is fun to throw power suit pieces at opponents. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 23:32, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
  16. I voted because Adam told me to do so.MegiBeelzebub MegiBeelzebub.png 14:10, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
  17. Because she's better than weak Zelda. Superstarxalien169's smashbox. (talk) 19:18, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
  18. Yes, yes we do, OT. :P--Starman125 (talk) 01:20, 26 July 2013 (EDT)


Round 197: Yoshi's Story vs. Fountain of Dreams[edit]

Fountain of Dreams

10.5 to 15.5
Two neutral stages, both modelled after the standard triangular platform layout, but with differences - one has sloped ground, small playspace, and good ol' Randall, while the other has platforms of changing heights that sometimes completely submerge into the reflective pool of dreams. Which big-eater's home stage comes through?

Votes for Yoshi's Story[edit]

  1. Much happier looking, a little bigger, and of course... Randall! Washi (talk) 23:49, 26 July 2013 (EDT)
  2. A bit larger, and a background reminiscent of a game I played at my friend's house, I hate Pak E. Derm, but this stage is fun. DarkFox 01DF01Sig.pngThe Active 23:53, 26 July 2013 (EDT)
  3. For whatever so reason, I like seeing Melee competitive matches on this stage and it seems to be a common pick too. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Pokémon 00:16, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
  4. Randall the Cloud FTW. [1] Scr7Wolfsig.png 04:17, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
  5. Boo Buddy (talk) 16:26, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
  6. 20:59, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
  7. Because Yoshi is awesome. And Randall is too. BunnyHoodYoshi9001 Talk to me 09:45, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
  8. Because you unlock Marth in the other one. -- 17:08, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
  9. I just watched Monsters University. There is a cloud named Randall in this stage and there is a monster named Randall in the film. ChuckNorris24.png 11:50, 29 July 2013 (EDT)
  10. Yoshi is awesome! The Awesome Awesomesig.png 21:48, 1 August 2013 (EDT)

Half votes[edit]

  1. YOSHIIIII —Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ (talkcontribs) 08:47, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Fountain of Dreams[edit]

  1. I don't feel either layout to be very different, but I like the Kirby franchise more than the Yoshi's Island series, so I pick this. 23:54, 26 July 2013 (EDT)
  2. The orchestrated music for this stage is beyond comprehension. -- Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 00:12, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
  3. Because it's where you unlock Marth. DoctorPain99 01:15, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
  4. Dat music. Terrible is Terrible 11:15, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
  5. The starry sky background speaks to me: Melee's best played at night! 13:08, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
  6. Cause you unlock Marth here. Plus it's Kirby! 13:58, 27 July 2013107.211.34.20 13:59, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
  7. I like it`s appearance more. It has a starry night sky and awesome music.TheAtomicFire PichuHeadSSBM.png 14:35, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
  8. I love this stage --Dinoboy411 (talk) 20:32, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
  9. Awesome look, awesome music... do I need to say more?Tepig (talk) 15:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)
  10. Both stages have the same layout, but the fountain of dreams looks cooler! Multus Valde (talk) 16:02, 29 July 2013 (EDT)MultusValde
  11. YS is the worst of the BF clones, and is completely dull aesthetic and music wise (whereas FoD excels at aesthetics and music). Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:07, 29 July 2013 (EDT)
  12. It has an better look: The sky looks better, and the fountains.. it's all so HDish. Cobravictim (talk) 10:49, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
  13. Awesome music, nice look, from Kirby. :) --LavaKirby 19:27, 1 August 2013 (EDT) 21:04, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
  14. This stage is far more unique and kaleidoscopic than Yoshi Island. I mean, LOOK at those beautiful, iridescent colours! Not to mention it's probably the best professional stage to fight next to Battlefield and Final Destination. MegiBeelzebub MegiBeelzebub.png 13:14, 1 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. As long as I'm not fighting Peach on here, I like the stage. LightningBlue405MS.png 21:38, 1 August 2013 (EDT)

Half votes[edit]

  1. The music is memorable plus you unlock Marth in this stage (He's the best!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎SkullKid777 (talkcontribs) 22:22, 30 July 2013


Round 198: Link vs. Zelda vs. Ganondorf[edit]

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Zelda OoT.png
Ganondorf OoT.png
Link OoT.png

17.5 to 6.5 to 11
The Triforcic Three unite once again for a battle. Will, power, wisdom, or courage win this day?

Votes for Link[edit]

  1. Link is the only one of the three to ever obtain the full triforce. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 12:24, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. What if all the grunts and screams Link makes are actually him speaking in Hylian? ChuckNorris24.png 12:31, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. OoT Link is probably my second favorite speedrunning character behind SM64 Mario. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Ocarina of Time 12:37, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. I prefer playing as Link out of these three. 13:07, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Who doesn't like Link? He's like, the god of them all. :P -- Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 13:13, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Ganny D is pretty cool, but Link is literally the essence of an hero! Washi (talk) 13:36, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Link is AWESOME. Ganondorf/Ganon is UGLY. And Zelda sucks in SSBB, IMO. You can see on my userpage. --LavaKirby 17:06, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. He`s the hero of hyrule. They`d never survive without him. Besides, I suck with zelda and Ganondorf.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 09:14, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Link, the one and only! The Awesome Awesomesig.png 19:15, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. Link is fast and has strong fighting skills.Bulbaking (talk) 14:12, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
  11. He is the manliest man alive Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 14:22, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
  12. The main character of the Zelda series, and the best character of the Zelda series. Can't compete with that.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 23:34, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
  13. Link would destroy the other two! 10:46, 5 August 2013
  14. Link is awesome! 14:29, 5 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. Link saves Hyrule, Zelda gets kidnapped and Ganondorf gets his ass kicked. Difficult choice right there. 12:27, August 6 2013ToonMegaman (talk) 12:28, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
  16. Zelda gets kidnapped by Ganondorf, and Link saves Zelda and owns Ganondorf. Do I need to say anything moreCobravictim (talk)
  17. I admire Link's skill at an arsenal of weapons, from magic rods to just a wooden boomerang, this guy uses his equipment to its full potential. Icemario Icemario.png 16:28, 9 August 2013 (EDT)


  1. Link > Ganondorf > Zelda. 'nuff said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 22:23, August 5 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Zelda[edit]

  1. While I usually go with an incarnate of Link for Smash, Zelda's my favorite of the three in her games. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 14:22, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Tough, because a Link is my Brawl main, Zelda is my favourite character of the three (especially her Skyward Sword form), and Ganondorf is one fo the most fun characters in Brawl, if not the most fun. I'll go for Zelda, because the wrong Link is fighting, and evil is bad. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 14:58, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Pity vote. 15:22, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Melee. 12:04, 5 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. The princess of princess :) I love Zelda... her moveset... well... she's my favorite so I vote for her --Hi I'm Fenix 13:02, 9 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. The princess of hyrule and one of my favorite characters EVER.--Cakeizgud (talk) 17:01, 9 August 2013 (EDT)


  1. 5. Zelda the princess! --Igor The Mii (talk) 20:23, 8 August 2013 (EDT) PK FLASHBOMB!

Votes for Ganondorf[edit]

  1. Melee Ganondorf is pretty good. Scr7Wolfsig.png 12:23, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. All aboard the Ganon bandwagon! Terrible is Terrible 12:24, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Move over, Bowser! A greater powerhouse is taking over! 13:10, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. I would pick Link but he's 0/4 in fighting games, always gets beat by his clones and is generally less fun to play as than Ganondorf who has always been one of my favorites. DoctorPain99 13:27, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. What Scr7 said. Chuck the Duck (talk) 18:18, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. My favorite overall Smash character, and Zelda character, plain and simple. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 03:38, 5 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Nothing can top the Ganon PunchTM. --HavocReaper48 00:54, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. He's the power.....He's the evil....and for some reason, he turns into a dragon-pig kaiju with dual swords at the end.MegiBeelzebub MegiBeelzebub.png 15:45, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. He was better in Melee than Link and Zelda have been in the entire series. Also ridiculously fun to play in both games, even though he's the worst in Brawl. --Timson622222 (talk) 21:23, 8 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. The corrupt has arrived, and he's not pleased. MegaTron1XDDecepticon.png 15:31, 9 August 2013 (EDT)
  11. Ganondorf is a legitimate classic evil villain; he wants to rule the world, gain power, etc.Vincent Tran SPARKING!Kirby-1.png 15:59, 9 August 2013 (EDT)


Round 199: Samus vs. Ridley[edit]

Samus SSBB.jpg
Samus SSBB.jpg

17 to 15.5
The classic matchup of ressurection versus revenge. End description.

Votes for Samus[edit]

  1. I hate Ridley because everyone wants him in SSB4 and that can't work! Terrible is Terrible 11:01, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Samus has killed Ridley multiple times. The reverse isn't true. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 11:31, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. He has an awkward figure that wouldn't really transition well into smash. Keep him as a boss. DoctorPain99 16:17, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Super Metroid, anyone? Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 16:42, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. 20:32, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Ridley is just creeping me out.. because.. that face... and besides does ppl really think that Ridley should be in ssb4? Pfft.. Cobravictim (talk)
  7. Samus has killed Ridley a ton of times, making her dominant. Also, I don't think that Ridley shoud be in SSB4, in my opinion it's just ridiculous. No matter what, it's not going to happen.--Iguy2002 (talk) 17:33, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. I happen to like Samus's design more and think her attacks are all around better then Ridley's attacks shown off in the Metroid series. --Water, Earth, Fire, Air (talk) 12:11, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Better character design imo. LightningBlue405MS.png 13:10, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. Regardless of whether or not Ridley would work for SSB4, Samus still kicks his ass.--Starman125 (talk) 15:28, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
  11. Actually, I decided I like Samus more. ZSS is fun, I like her backstory, and I've generally not liked bosses as characters, even if they're designed cool like Ridley. --Timson622222 (talk) 18:27, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
  12. Samus' artwork in SSB4 has her in the "Ezio" pose. Sold. --HavocReaper48 23:58, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
  13. Bandit 19:41, 14 August 2013 (EDT)
  14. I like Samus a lot especially how she sometime takes her suit off5.0.43.159 17:12, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. I like her attacks and design more,so Samus for the win!--Cakeizgud (talk) 19:10, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
  16. ZERO SUIT SAMUS! Final Smash! Female. Hot. Enough said. Oh, I'm voting for Power Suit Samus? Eh, same person. SeanWheeler (talk) 12:14, 16 August 2013 (EDT)


  1. I don't wanna argue with those who think that Ridley could work in SSB4, so I'll just insert my vote and go away.ToonMegaman (talk) 16:54, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Well....I prefer Ridley but I guess I'll vote for Samus cause she always beats the crud out of Ridley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:36, 10 August 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Ridley[edit]

  1. I like Ridley. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 11:10, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Space dragons are cool. Scr7Wolfsig.png 11:29, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. 'Cause I don't want the outcome to be obvious, what with the hero always prevailing in the end kind of thing. Also, at least we always see Ridley's face, unlike Samus. 11:43, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Ridley is cool. Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 12:46, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. I'm voting for Ridley just because of how stupid Terrible's reason is. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 12:57, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Oh man, this one is close. I never really liked Samus as a fighter, so my vote is for the Pterodactyl-Dinosaur-Space-Monster-Thingy. WashiWashi signature.png 13:03, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. This is enough of a reason alone. DarkFox01DF01Sig.pngI see them up ahead. Let’s rock and roll! 19:05, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. Who doesn't like big and cool space dragons?TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 10:16, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Because Ridley is awesome. Superstarxalien169's smashbox. (talk) 22:47, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. I would laugh so hard if he's a character in SSB4. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Bold 00:33, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
  11. Ridley might be too big to be playable in SSB4, but Ridley's so awesome, he has a chance. But Samus is nothing compared to Ridley. --LavaKirby 12:12, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
  12. Ridley is just awesome. Awesomelink234 (talk) 21:13, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
  13. herp a derp ridley's too big to be a character in smash bros ChuckNorris24.png 10:27, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
  14. RIPLEY SCOTT!!!!!!....oh wait.....XENOMORPH!!!!I mean.......dammit.MegiBeelzebub MegiBeelzebub.png 19:26, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. He is the char I want most for Smash 4. Well, next to Lara Croft... RoyboyX Talk 19:44, 13 August 2013 (EDT)


  1. I would vote for Samus, but Ridley needs some attentionn. He needs to be in Smash bros.! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 04:49, 15 August 2013‎


Terrible, that's kind of a stupid reason to not vote for Ridley. Besides, It can work for him to be in SSB4.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 10:12, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Any comments about the fight should be left in the comments section. The following kinds of comments are not allowed:
  • Comments about other users' opinions. You can point out that a user may have gotten a fact wrong, but you can't say things such as "That's not a good reason" or "But the other guy is better because X". Users can vote for any reason they want; trying to argue with someone's opinion generally has no positive outcome, in addition to simply inflating the comments section of an already large page.
Don't try to argue with another user on Smash Arena. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 10:35, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
This is also aimed at DP99 and Toast, don't address other users' reasoning or call their reasoning dumb, don't start arguments on Smash Arena. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 10:37, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

I just realized that IP has already voted. If that's the exact same person, the extra vote should be removed. 22:40, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Really people, Smash Arena is not for arguing and this isn't about arguing if Ridley should be in Smash 4 or not. Stop making votes arguing about it. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:05, 13 August 2013 (EDT)

Round 200: Multi-Perennial Bicentennial[edit]

Ganondorf vs. Mewtwo[edit]

Ganondorf SSBM.jpg
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8 to 24
Mewtwo SSBM.jpg
One, the King of the Gerudos, the one man in a century that will do anything to get his people out of the desolate desert. The other, a manmade freak of nature, a wandering one-of-a-kind species with no sense of purpose. Both commanding supernatural forces and willing to call upon the dark side of it when necessary - who wins this multifaceted throwdown?

Votes for Ganondorf[edit]

  1. I like Ganon. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. He's so great, he can beat anybody in Melee, the best character of all, and I enjoy him and is better than the rest. Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Ganonbrawl is one of the most fun characters to play as in the history of Smash. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Never was a big fan of Pokemon Multus Valde (talk) 18:54, 20 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. Phat Wind Waker Ganon owns. -- 00:23, 24 August 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Mewtwo[edit]

  1. Mewtwo was the first character I ever played in Smash Bros., so there's a lot of sentimental value there. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Because of my sig icon. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Mewtwo is among my favorite fictional characters of all time. Also, I want to let others know I cleared The Showdown as Mewtwo. Not kidding! 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Although not great in-game, I want him back in Smash. --レ∆ㄅ MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG 00:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Growing up, I would constantly go to my friend's house to play Melee. My friend lacked a memory card for his GameCube, and thus it was impossible to save any unlocked characters. A visit to my cousin one day enlightened me to the full extent of the Melee cast. Imagine my surprise to see Mewtwo! I COULD PLAY AS MEWTWO! I still remember my first encounter with Mewtwo in my first Pokemon game. Even though he wasn't that great, the fact of the matter is that this was a much simpler time; No tier list, no competition, just simple and friendly games, where I could play as one of my favorite Pokemon. Sold. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Mewtwo is certainly a very fun character to play as. Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Quite simply my favourite Pokémon of all-time. 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. I never really use ganondorf.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 08:36, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Because I spent countless hours trying to unlock him. ChuckNorris24.png 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. I love the movie with Mew-two in it.Plus he's a good fighter in Melee. 10:16 17 August 2013
  11. I always loved playing as Mewtwo. He was a completely different type of character in Melee while Ganondorf is a clone of Captain Falcon. 10:49, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  12. I like Mewtwo more. Scr7Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  13. Mewtwo has got to be the best character in my opinion in Melee personality wise. I hate a majority of his special moves, but his recovery, forward aerial, and neutral special are all just so versatile. WashiWashi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  14. For me, this all comes down to who I like more in Smash King...and Mew-senpai is actually significantly less of an ass.MegiBeelzebub MegiBeelzebub.png 13:54, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. Underestimated, underappreciated... Bring him back! DarkFox01DF01Sig.pngChoose your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  16. Because Pokémon, plain and simple. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  17. I hate his new form but the old one is boss. Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  18. Favorite legendary. 00:33, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  19. Ganondorf SUCKS. --LavaKirby 16:57, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  20. Pokemon. End of story. Bulbaking (talk) 14:32, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
  21. Dat Up Throw. LightningBlue405MS.png 23:03, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
  22. I use him on my Ubers team. Mr. AnonAnon.png talk 22:15, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  23. I haven't played Mewtwo or melee, but ganondorf is just.. meh. Cobravictim (talk) 11:43, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
  24. I'm more of a Pokémon fan than a Zelda fan. SeanWheeler (talk) 20:56, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


The brown background for Ganondorf makes it really hard to see :/ Awesome Cardinal 2000 21:48, 18 August 2013 (EDT)

Just highlight the text :P Scr7Wolfsig.png 15:06, 19 August 2013 (EDT)

Corneria vs. Venom[edit]

Corneria full.jpg
Corneria full.jpg

20.5 to 10
Two perspectives of the Great Fox, one head-on and the other side-winding. Which configuration delights the nation?

Votes for Corneria[edit]

  1. I like Corneria. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Corneria isn't the most balanced of stages, but at least it's fun to play on, especially for free-for-all four-player smashing. Venom is small and feels cramped while still being imbalanced. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. SNES Corneria music. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. More running space. 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Great stage. --レ∆ㄅ MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. More blandaced. Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Corneria's the better planet...and stage. 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. This stage is actually pretty unique compared to the other one. Also I find it more enjoyable. ----- Conanshinichi 08:32, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. DO A BARREL ROLL! ChuckNorris24.png 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. This one is sooo much more enjoyable! 10:13 17 August 2013
  11. More fun to play on IMO. Scr7Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  12. This is my favorite starting place I like to fight most in Melee. (aside from Temple.) I really don't know why, I just love it here. WashiWashi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  13. My favorite banned stage in all 3 of the games so far. I love how it builds on the crappy Sector Z and makes the concept awesome. DarkFox01DF01Sig.pngChoose your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  14. I actually like how this stage is as fun to play on as it is to look at. Plus, it isn't a Doom map look-a-like.MegiBeelzebub MegiBeelzebub.png 14:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. It was the first stage I ever played on in Melee and it has epic music. Definitely voting for Corneria. 22:59, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  16. Backed into a corner, I finally voted for Venom. Its music that is. Corneria wins because of the background and its presence in Brawl. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  17. I hate Corneria, but I hate Venom more. --LavaKirby 16:56, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  18. I've played on Corneria more. I know it better. Bulbaking (talk) 14:34, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
  19. Corneria returned in SSBB and I played that game before SSBM so I didn't play in Venom until I got the gamecube emulator so I played Corneria more31.9.47.115 11:39, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
  20. I like getting on top of the flying shooting jets :P Cobravictim (talk) 11:44, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


  1. I don't like the design of sector z.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAtomicFire (talkcontribs) 08:47, 17 August 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Venom[edit]

  1. More platforms mean this is by far the best stage in Melee and is the best stage I have ever seen in my life. Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. I was disappointed to not see this stage return for Brawl. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. I do not like either of these stages, but I pick this one because the Arwings are much less annoying. Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. I'll vote based on music. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. The music is stuck in my head! Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. 00:34, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. Somewhat unique. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 22:15, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. Makes me think of a Spider-Man villain, and I like Marvel even though this is more about Star Fox SeanWheeler (talk) 20:59, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


Samus (SSB) vs. Pichu (SSBM) vs. Ganondorf (SSBB)[edit]

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Ganondorf SSBB.jpg
Pichu (SSBM)
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7 to 15 to 9
These unlucky Smashers have been trapped at the bottom of their respective tier lists, with their distinctive attributes conspiring against them in competitive play. Which will squeeze out a win for once?

Votes for Samus (SSB)[edit]

  1. So much potential that hasn't even been seen, she is arguably the best out of the three and can beat anyone. She's so cool and Samus is awesome. Whoo! Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:29, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Samus is the best character out of all three, and the least worst in-game. --レ∆ㄅ MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. She might have not been good in this game, but she was a good character in Melee and Brawl. Pichu was horribly bad and Ganondorf was always a slower and almost unusable version of Captain Falcon. But it's just my opinion24.45.189.29 10:53, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. I like Samus the most out of these three. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. I like Zero Suit Samus. Oh, is this the 64 version? Well Pichu hurts itself with electricity and I don't use Ganon that much (he felt slow and heavy) so Samus it is. SeanWheeler (talk) 21:02, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Half votes[edit]

  1. The only non-clone, no contest. Now if Manandorf evolves into Ganondorf in Smash 4, that would be a whole different story. TheBakonBitz (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBakonBitz (talkcontribs) 15:06, 21 August 2013‎ (EDT)
  2. Samus has been there from the start, and she climbed up from her last space, but Ganondorf just fell and Pichu was there only at once —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cobravictim (talkcontribs) 11:46, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Pichu (SSBM)[edit]

  1. It's a Pokemon and it suits my playstyle the best out of the three. Also, how come Pichu's in this match instead of Kirby? Kirby lost that battle against Pichu and is now at the very bottom of the tier list. 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Cute. 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Used to play Pichu all the time. Not familiar with the other 2. Oh and Ganondorf sucks so bad so he won't get it. ----- Conanshinichi 08:30, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. I can't stand to play as those characters in those games, but I still have good memories of playing as pichu when I was a kid.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 08:58, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Because the Pichu Bros. in the anime made me smile. ChuckNorris24.png 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. One vote for the cute electric suicide mouse!--Cakeizgud (talk) 10:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. I love Pichu sooo much! 10:11 17 August 2013
  8. Scr7Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Pichu actually has some good power behind his attacks, and in my opinion, the best recovery in the game. WashiWashi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. He's cute, fun to play as, and a very interesting addition to Melee. And he is so manly that he hurts himself. DarkFox01DF01Sig.pngChoose your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  11. I just got a Pichu in Pokemon Pearl. Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  12. Pichu is just a weak Pikachu, and Pikachu is awesome.--LavaKirby 16:53, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  13. Pichu can be a powerhouse if raised right. Bulbaking (talk) 14:37, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
  14. Pichu is one of my favourite Pokemon and I love Pokemon and he/she is just so cute31.9.47.115 11:36, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. Is both fast and powerful. Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Ganondorf (SSBB)[edit]

  1. I like Ganon. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Out of all the low tier characters listed in the voting, Brawl Ganon is the most fun to play for me. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Dair. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Down Aerial. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. More fun to play than the other two. Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. 00:34, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Well this went out of date quickly. Poor Kirby. I like Pichu best as a character, but Ganondorf is definitely the most fun to play as. I feel as if I've typed this before. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. Zelda series ftw! Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 22:14, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Phat Wind Waker Ganon still owns. -- 00:23, 24 August 2013 (EDT)


Kirby's last on the Melee tier list now.... Awesome Cardinal 2000 21:51, 18 August 2013 (EDT)

I agree. Since Melee Kirby lost to Melee Pichu, I actually expected Kirby to be on this round instead, in addition to since he is said became last on the tier list shortly after that round. But since Pichu also has a long history of being struggled in the bottom tier and since he also doesn't appear in many SA matches as well, I'll give it to him this time. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Kamehameha 22:03, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
Pichu is here because he won the Kirby (SSBM) vs. Pichu (SSBM) fight; the winner from that moving on to here was determined and publicized before that tier list was released.
Also I kind of think that the claimed 11th tier list isn't official, because I'm pretty sure it was never announced as such. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Non-Toxic 22:59, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
Well Kirby actually has some advantageous matchups while Pichu has no advantageous matchups and the matchup chart hasn't been updated to fit with the 11th tier list. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 17:28, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

I personally think it's dumb to have Pichu hurt itself with electric attacks. I mean, those are the same moves Pikachu uses and they don't hurt him. In fact the only Electric attacks that cause recoil damage in the Pokémon games are Volt Tackle and Wild Charge. Kirby is on the bottom in the Melee tier list? He was awesome in Brawl. Those multiple jumps and up special makes good recovery. I think Pichu should stay at the bottom. And I don't believe in the Tier Lists. SeanWheeler (talk) 21:33, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Brawl Kirby =/= Melee Kirby. Melee Kirby was a severe nerf to Smash 64 Kirby. Simple as that. LightningBlue405MS.png 00:33, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
Don't use the Comments section to create a debate like which character is better in competitive play. Also, if you don't believe in tiers, read this. Awesome Cardinal 2000 00:56, 24 August 2013 (EDT)

Mario and Yoshi vs. Samus Unmasked[edit]

Mario and Yoshi Trophy Melee.png
Mario and Yoshi
Mario and Yoshi Trophy Melee.png

23.5 to 9.5
Samus Unmasked Trophy.png
Melee's two event-only trophies are up next. Is the Mario or Metroid collectible more super?

Votes for Mario and Yoshi[edit]

  1. Freakin' Super Mario World! JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 23:36, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. The good old days. 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. A good duo. Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Yoshi's face is priceless. ----- Conanshinichi 08:27, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Super Mario world!TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 08:41, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Why isn't Tamagon in this fight? ChuckNorris24.png 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. I just love Yoshi so much, how could I NOT pick this?--Cakeizgud (talk) 10:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. I'm not gonna lie, Samus is cool, but I have to say Mario and Yoshi. 10:09 17 August 2013
  9. It gives me more memories. 10:54, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. Scr7Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  11. I like Mario more than Samus. WashiWashi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  12. I chose this one because this trophey DOESN'T have a horribly rendered face of Emma Stone on it!MegiBeelzebub MegiBeelzebub.png 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  13. Super Mario Advance 2 was my first ever handheld game, and I was heartbroken when our GBA SP was stolen... with SMA2 in it! Either way, Super Mario World is an amazing game, and this reminds me of it when I see it. DarkFox01DF01Sig.pngis a BitF fan 14:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  14. This game does it. Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. 00:35, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  16. Samus sucks, Mario and Yoshi are both awesome.--LavaKirby 16:50, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  17. Yeah I psyched about voting for Samus in the first place. This trophy is cool because of Yoshi. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Arwing 19:42, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  18. The pose is better. I don't care about trophies, though. --Timson622222 (talk) 21:32, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  19. Better looking. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 11:32, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
  20. Yoshi Yoshi! Bulbaking (talk) 14:38, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
  21. They are the old buddies plus I love Yoshi31.9.47.115 11:33, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
  22. Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
  23. -- 00:23, 24 August 2013 (EDT)


  1. Yoshi was my fav until the awesomeness of the Typhoon Tailed Tortoise, Wartortle. Obvious Yoshi. The Wartortlemaster —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:35, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Samus Unmasked[edit]

  1. I like Samus Unmasked. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Best trophy in the game, and is the best of them all. No other is cooler. Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. This trophy reveals more than the other one. Yeah, we all know who Mario and Yoshi are, but this one gives away Samus's gender, something that was quite a mystery back in the day. 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Yoshi will eat Samus regardless of how much armor she is wearing. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Even if Justin Bailey couldn't be of real help, I still vote for this. RoyboyX Talk 15:24, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. That is a BEAUTIFUL face! -- 21:56, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. Reveals info otherwise not accesable in the game, which is interesting. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 22:14, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Zero Suit Samus! Oh, just her face? Well at least she's shown as a girl. SeanWheeler (talk) 21:05, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Half votes[edit]

  1. Mario and Yoshi.. yaaawn.. samus unmasked is more special than 2 characters EVERYONE knows.. Cobravictim (talk) 11:49, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


Villager vs. Wii Fit Trainer vs. Mega Man[edit]

Villager SSB4.png
Wii Fit Trainer SSB4.png
Mega Man SSB4.png
Mega Man
Mega Man SSB4.png

9.5 to 9 to 21
Finally, it's time for SSB4's three initial newcomers. Will it be the kleptomaniac kid, the fitness fanatic, or the Blue Bomber?

Votes for Villager[edit]

  1. 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Although I like all the newcomrs so far, I'll probably be playing the Villager the most when the game comes out. --レ∆ㄅ MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. He fights with an axe. TIMBER! Boo BuddyHaunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. I'll always like Animal Crossing. Plus the description says kleptomaniac! 10:05, 17 August 2013
  5. Does this look like the face of mercy? JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Villager looks really interesting to play as and his memes are hilarious. 22:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Tough, because Wii Fit Trainer was the most unexpected by far, Mega Man looks the most fun because of his projectile meteor smash, and Villager is a middle ground between them. I didn't predict Villager being in the game, and his moveset is very interesting. That middle ground is what puts it in Villager's favour. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. Luxray shall go against his fur color and choose the red character over the other blue characters. LightningBlue405MS.png 23:20, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. Pity vote. Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


  1. He's the only character that can pick up anything without the help of items. He's OP when played correctly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 08:36, 18 August 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Wii Fit Trainer[edit]

  1. Best character for Brawl 4. Conny Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. My SSB4 main already.Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. The fact that absolutely no one wanted her in makes her that much more awesome. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. Killing everything with the Wii Fit trainer? Yes please!--Cakeizgud (talk) 09:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Mega Man? The most hyped third party character after Sonic, who had his turn in Brawl. Villager? Still a relatively easily predicted newcomer. But Wii Fit Trainer? Totally out of left field. infernape612 11:50, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. Everybody is hating her for some reason, so i'm gonna show some sympathy and vote for her. Multus Valde (talk) 08:46, 20 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. She isn't just a character, she's also a sort of symbol. If Sakurai just adds character X and Y few others who wield swords, guns or have a special ability again and bla bla bla new stages and bla bla bla new modes, there is going to be a serious Apollo 13 effect. The intrest is going to drop heavily unless something special happens. But can something so special happen, and in a good way? Wii Fit Trainer shows that Sakurai isn't going to give up, and is full of ideas. She shows that, even after fourteen years of Smash, the WHOLE community can join together and say: "What!?" instead of: "Oh, I was expecting that." She shows that Sakurai can not only talk the talk, but walk the walk. ...I dunno about you, but I have high hopes. :) -- 21:48, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. That was so unexpected, to add somebody non-playable in ssb4. So my vote goes to her, because of the surprise! Cobravictim (talk) 11:53, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. She has yoga pants and I find that attractive on girls (even though she looks like a mannequin). SeanWheeler (talk) 21:07, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Votes for Mega Man[edit]

  1. I like Mega Man. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  2. Mega Man makes the most sense to be appearing in a Smash game. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  3. Mega Man X is an awesome game. Dots MewtwoMS.png The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
  4. I'm one of those people who got really excited when I found out Mega Man is in the next Smash game. I really enjoy his franchise and look forward to playing as him in Smash. Besides, I have yet to play Animal Crossing or Wii Fit. 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  5. Super Fighting Robot - Megaman! 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  6. My favorite video game character. Nuff Said.TheAtomicFire BluePichu.png 09:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  7. Now I really want to get an NES Mega Man game. ChuckNorris24.png 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  8. Robots are cool. Scr7Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  9. MEGA. UPPER. WashiWashi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  10. Took long enough, Sakurai! I'm going to play as him as soon as I can! DarkFox01DF01Sig.pngBILL! 14:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  11. Villager is creepy, WFT is in the bottom of my SSB4 tier list, but Mega Man is god. Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
  12. 00:36, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  13. i love mega man. He haves so many moves that i can use in super smash bros 4, he is a great fighterSmash X 5432 (talk) 11:49, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  14. Mega Man is going to be awesome. He is a unique character without any punches or kicks, and his move set is based off of Mega Man 2, the best Mega Man of them all (in my opinion). He's going to be the first character I will play as when I get the game.--Iguy2002 (talk) 13:07, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  15. I can always count on Mega Man. Even though I hate third-party characters, I'm cool with him. I just hope he's not an unlockable character.--LavaKirby 16:49, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
  16. Just look at my nickname. JUST LOOK AT IT !!! ToonMegaman (talk) 23:20, 18 August 2013 (EDT) 23:20, 18 august 2013
  17. Robots destroy all! Bulbaking (talk) 14:39, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
  18. Char I most predicted. My hopes for an AC char were quashed when Sakurai had said no to putting them in Smash, and Wii Fit Trainer made me go WTF. RoyboyX Talk 15:25, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  19. Coolest imo. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 22:13, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
  20. Megaman will win because of his popularity so I might as well vote for him31.9.47.115 11:30, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
  21. -- 00:23, 24 August 2013 (EDT)


I would have picked Mega Man (because I want Mega Man to fight Sonic) but I thought the Wii Fit Trainer was kinda hot. And I never really cared about Animal Crossing. So Mega Man would have won if the Wii Fit trainer wasn't her or if she didn't make mannequins look good in yoga pants. Well, I don't think I can vote twice. SeanWheeler (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Looks like Mega Man is winning. I'm okay with that. The next time I see him, I would vote for him (unless I like his opponent more). —Preceding unsigned comment added by SeanWheeler (talkcontribs) 19:16, August 22, 2013

Rule # 12: you may not make comments that relate to how close or one-sided a matchup is. Please bear that in mind and have a nice day. 22:57, 22 August 2013 (EDT)