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*{{buff|The new physics and the re-introduction of [[wavedash]]ing give Sonic much more options, improving his already outstanding mobility and allowing some moves to flow much better into each other.}}
*{{buff|The new physics and the re-introduction of [[wavedash]]ing give Sonic much more options, improving his already outstanding mobility and allowing some moves to flow much better into each other.}}
*{{buff|Air speed is increased to help his aerial game and recovery.}}
*{{buff|Air speed is increased to help his aerial game and recovery.}}
*{{nerf|Sonic is significantly lighter.}}


===Ground Attacks===
===Ground Attacks===

Revision as of 21:23, July 11, 2015

Sonic
in Project M and Project+
Sonic SSBB.jpg
SonicSymbol.svg
Universe Sonic the Hedgehog
Base game appearance Brawl
Moveset inspiration Sonic (SSBB)
Alternate costume Jet Set Sonic
SonicHeadSSBB.png

Sonic is a playable character in the Brawl mod Project M. He has been buffed for his Project M showing.

Attributes

As the fastest character in PM in terms of overall speed, Sonic relies on great combos, being able to rack up damage very easily.

Changes from Brawl to PM

Sonic's new up taunt in Project M.
Sonic's new forward aerial.

Aesthetics

  • Change Up taunt now features a horizontal spin and finger wag. The taunt button can be held to extend the duration of the finger wag.
  • Change In terms of cosmetics, Sonic has received completely new costumes that fully change the color of his hair and shoes (along with costumes resembling Shadow, Silver, and Tails), making his team colors more obvious.

Attributes

  • Buff The new physics and the re-introduction of wavedashing give Sonic much more options, improving his already outstanding mobility and allowing some moves to flow much better into each other.
  • Buff Air speed is increased to help his aerial game and recovery.
  • Nerf Sonic is significantly lighter.

Ground Attacks

  • Buff Jab combo does more damage.
  • Buff Forward tilt is now a single hit, while still dealing the same damage, and does the same damage even from far away unlike Brawl, and slightly more KO potential.
  • Buff Up tilt is now a foot uppercut with a single hitbox instead of a double high kick, which acts better as a launcher, with overall less lag, and It is based upon the Sonic Up Draft move from Sonic Battle.
  • Buff Foward smash does more damage and is a better KO move.
  • Buff Up smash has much less ending lag and only has two hitboxes; the first is weak, while the second is much stronger and produces more knockback, making the move harder to avoid and improving its KO potential dramatically.
  • Buff Down smash changed to a multi-hitting "break-dance" move reminiscent of his Heavy Attack, the Sonic Flare, from Sonic Battle. It acts similar to the original, but has faster start-up and deals higher damage with much more knockback and can punish shielding or crouch canceling foes.
  • Buff Dash attack does more damage, and deals higher knockback.
  • Nerf Down tilt's IASA frames are later.
  • Nerf New up tilt has less damage potential.
  • Change Sweetspots of neutral aerial and up smash now have a slash effect, and the former has a new look inspired by Sonic 3.

Aerial Attacks

  • Buff Neutral aerial does much more damage and has stronger knockback and has a larger hitbox.
  • Buff Forward aerial is now a faster front-flip kick, based on the Sonic Eagle from Sonic Battle. It has much more utility, covering a wider area in front of Sonic and meteor smashing at the heel of his foot, which when combined with his enhanced air speed gives Sonic a deadly Ken Combo.
  • Buff Back aerial does more damage and is a stronger KO move.
  • Buff Up aerial Has faster start-up, links better, does 4-5% more damage and the sweetspot at the tips of his shoes have stronger knockback.
  • Buff Down aerial does more damage and has more knockback on its sweetspot, has significantly faster startup, and is now better at starting aerial combos when L-canceled.
  • Nerf New forward air has less damage potential.

Grabs and Throws

  • Buff Up throw sends for better follow-ups.
  • Buff Down throw is faster, giving the opponent less time to DI.
  • Nerf Up throw does less damage.

Special Moves

  • Buff Homing Attack can hit even when facing the other way and has much faster startup and fires straight at the opponent, now homing on them much more consistently in addition to juggling them at medium percentages.
  • Buff Side special is now Somersault: a fast-starting spin attack with a variable height jump depending on how long is the special button held. Pressing the attack button turns the attack into a sliding kick similar to that of the Sonic Adventure games. Both attacks cancel upon falling off a ledge. This gives Sonic a new multi-hitting quick attack to efficiently rack up damage and then launch foes, rather than a move almost identical to his down special. It also sweetspots ledges when used in midair, improving Sonic's horizontal recovery.
  • Buff Down special is still his Spin Charge, but has gained most of the nuances the original Spin Dash had while retaining all of its own properties. It can additionally damage opponents when being charged.
  • Nerf Homing Attack has a slightly decreased detection radius, and gives less distance when there is no opponent in range, and has less KO potential.
  • Nerf Spring Jump gives slightly less vertical distance, and Sonic can no longer air dodge after performing the move.
  • Nerf Spin Charge can no longer be held indefinitely.
  • Change Pressing the attack button during the startup of Homing Attack lets Sonic use the Blast Attack, which is a faster Homing Attack with less ending lag, though it has less range and doesn't track the opponent. Sonic now strikes a pose after successfully hitting with a Homing Attack.
  • Change Falling animation after using Spring Jump is now identical to his helpless animation, though without the black overlay. Sonic now additionally spins horizontally during the rising portion of the move in a manner similar to Sonic CD.

Revisions

v2.5b

  • Buff Forward tilt is now one hit, has less endlag, and much more knockback growth.
  • Buff Forward smash hit duration extended and has a weak hit added during that time.
  • Buff Neutral air is slightly faster, stronger, and has larger hitboxes.
  • Buff Back air adjusted in knockback, and is stronger at lower %s.
  • Buff Up air 2nd hit comes out slightly faster, sweetspot does a little more damage, and knockback slightly adjusted.
  • Buff Up air autocancels much earlier and IASA is a bit earlier.
  • Buff Homing Attack IASA is earlier.
  • Buff Aerial Somersault can grab ledges.
  • Buff Spin Charge can be B-reversed.
  • Buff Spin Charge startup is faster.
  • Buff Up smash is two hits instead of many multi-hits, and the knockback on the last hit is stronger.
  • Buff Jump startup is slightly faster.
  • Buff Gets more horizontal momentum from grounded jumps.
  • Nerf Somersault can no longer be jump canceled immediately, and the invincibility is completely gone.
  • Change Aerial mobility is slightly lower.
  • Change C-Stick up while shielding now correctly jumps instead of up smashing.
  • Change Up tilt has a new animation.
  • Change Down tilt moves forward and back, and the hitboxes and animation were adjusted.
  • Change Down tilt sends foes up and behind him.
  • Change Forward air has slightly faster startup with endlag and knockback adjusted.
  • Change Down air initial hitbox spikes on both grounded and airborne opponents.
  • Change Down air no longer has disabled air mobility, and can be fastfalled to change the dive speed.
  • Change Homing Attack on-hit cancel is removed.
  • Change Homing Attack can be shortened by pressing Attack before he homes-in, this is called Blast Attack.
  • Change Homing Attack hit animation is now reversible.
  • Change Somersault initial hitbox sends outward, and halfway through aerial Side B it will send upwards.
  • Change Somersault can only be used once per recovery, he must land on the stage or grab the edge to regain Side B usage in the air.
  • Change Grounded Somersault goes into a multi-hit somersault instead of a spindash.
  • Change Grounded Somersault somersault is jump cancelable, and if you press Attack Sonic will perform a slide kick.
  • Change Grounded Somersaults somersault and slide kick are both edge cancelable.
  • Change Spin Charge releases into spindash sooner.

v2.6b

  • Buff Up aerial's first hit has increased knockback, matching Brawl Sonic's values. The tipper sweetspot on the second hit is now easier to land.
  • Nerf Forward smash's knockback was decreased.
  • Nerf Forward smash's weaker lingering hit has notably decreased hitbox sizing and knockback.
  • Nerf Forward aerial's damage and knockback were notably decreased, but no longer degrade at the end of the kick.
  • Nerf Somersault's hitboxes can no longer clank other moves and have increased hitlag.
  • Nerf Somersault's jump-cancel window starts later.
  • Nerf Sonic can no longer airdodge after performing Spring Jump, even if he performs an aerial in between.
  • Nerf Spring Jump can no longer be canceled with a walljump, or wall jump after using Spring Jump.
  • Nerf Spin Charge's hitboxes can no longer clank other moves and have increased hitlag.
  • Nerf Spin Charge's spin jump can no longer be canceled with any special or airdodged from, and has a five frame-lock on performing aerials.
  • Change Sonic's jump squat animation carries over more momentum, allowing for more range during his jump cancel grab.
  • Change Forward tilt tipper hit angle raised and homogenized amongst angled variants.
  • Change Forward tilt damage is now based on angle like other forward tilts (12 hi, 11 med, 10 low), and knockback was compensated to match 2.1 Sonic.
  • Change Neutral aerial's hitbox sizing and placements reverted to match 2.1 Sonic, but no longer shrink during the move's duration>
  • Change Neutral aerial's active duration is faster.
  • Change Neutral aerial's initial damage was matched to Brawl Sonic's values, and the knockback compensated to match the last hit of Brawl Sonic's forward aerial.
  • Change Forward aerial starts up faster and now hits while Sonic's leg is further above him. Cooldown was increased slightly.
  • Change Forward aerial's shoe sweetspot now sends at a diagonal angle during the first two active frames.
  • Change Back aerial's initial damage and knockback stats weakened slightly, and his torso hitbox was made into a flub with notably less damage. The lingering hit was strengthened to match Brawl Sonic's values.
  • Change Down aerial's lingering hit angle was raised to match other diagonal sending moves>
  • Change Down aerial's dive no longer slows down when fast-fell.
  • Change Homing Attack has a longer window to acquire a homing target, and a slightly longer start-up.
  • Change Homing Attack's hit rebound animation has a later interrupt window.
  • Change Homing Attack's hit angle is notably higher.
  • Change Somersault's hits earlier with a new graphical cue before the move goes into the hop or tumble. This can allow it to hit twice with the hop. Somersault's initial damage and knockback were reduced to compensate.
  • Change Somersault's previous momentum now has a large effect on the hop's height, making when you use the move more important.
  • Change Somersault's grounded tumble hitboxes have less time between hits, but end faster.
  • Change Spring Jump no longer has invincibility, but can be interrupted with an aerial earlier.
  • Change Spring Jump's turnaround window is slightly longer.
  • Change Spring's hitbox comes out slightly later, and has a more diagonal hit angle with lower base knockback but increased knockback growth.
  • Change Spin Charge's jump inputs now properly recognize the tap-jump setting.
  • Change Spin Charge's charging hitboxes no longer deal additional shield damage, but now drag targets in whatever direction Sonic is moving.
  • Change Spin Charge's charge now sends Sonic into spindash if you fail to mash quickly enough, and the mash requirement increases the longer you stay in charge. A quick white flash indicates that the mashing requirement has gotten harder.
  • Change Spin Charge's charge can no longer be canceled in any manner but by releasing into spindash, or holding shield to enter the spin stop cancel.
  • Change Spin Charge's spindash can no longer be shield canceled at any point in the move. Pressing shield will now cause Sonic to skid to a stop.
  • Change Spin Charge's spin jump and spin turn now have a fifteen frame delay on their hitboxes if Sonic has hit with spindash or spin turn in the last nine frames.
  • Change Spin Charge's spin jump and spin turn have reduced damage with compensated knockback, but can now hit multiple times.

v3.0

  • Buff Sonic’s aerial mobility was slightly increased.
  • Buff Neutral air hits one frame sooner and stays strong slightly longer. The initial hitboxes were slightly increased in size, and knockback on all hits tweaked to aid in comboing and late-percent kills.
  • Buff Neutral air now has a small initial sweetspot that deals 15% damage with strong knockback and has neutral frame advantage on block.
  • Buff Back air has increased start up reminiscent of Brawl’s, and increased damage and knockback on all hitboxes. IASA window starts two frames earlier.
  • Buff Up air's knockback trajectory slightly raised to be straight vertical. Both sweet and sour spots have increased knockback growth.
  • Buff Spin Dash knockback stats and trajectory tweaked to aid in comboing.
  • Buff Spring attack use is now reset if Sonic is grabbed.
  • Nerf Forward air’s early sweetspot has reduced knockback growth.
  • Nerf Homing attack lock-on range reduced by about 1/3.
  • Change Neutral air animation tweaked for polish.
  • Change When Homing or Blast attack collides with a floor, Sonic rebounds instead of flattening to the stage.
  • Change Spin Maneuver’s Jump-cancel frame-lock no longer resets upon landing mid-move. Sonic also flashes when the frame-lock ends>

v3.5

  • Buff All of Sonic's forward tilt hitboxes last longer.
  • Nerf Sonic's forward tilt, up tilt, forward aerial, and down smash no longer increase Sonic's foot size, limiting range.
  • Nerf Forward tilt, up aerial, and down aerial has more endlag.
  • Nerf Up aerial's second hit now lingers for less time.
  • Nerf Spin Charge no longer has a hitbox when turning (and for a second afterwards).
  • Nerf Spin Charge now has longer startup.
  • Buff Spring Jump has faster startup.
  • Nerf Glitch fixed where Sonic could airdodge out of Spring Jump.
  • Buff Homing Attack can now grab ledges faster, and has 25% larger detection size.
  • Nerf Homing Attacking in the air without it finding a target now puts Sonic into special fall.
  • Nerf Somersault can no longer be edge cancelled immediately, cannot be cancelled for a longer amount of time, and the held version can't be jumped out of until it hits the ground.
  • Nerf Spinshot distance reduced by about half.
  • Nerf Super Sonic damage and knockback weakened, and now ends in special fall.
  • Change Homing Attack's ending animation is now affected by gravity.
  • Change The first hit of his up aerial weakened to link better.
  • Change Down aerial's falling speed was reduced by 10%.
  • Change Side Special now has one less hit.

Moveset

Up to date as of version 3.5.

Name Damage Description
Neutral attack 3% (hits 1-2), 4% (hit 3) (10% total) A simple one-two followed by a kick.
Forward tilt 12%/10% (high feet/legs), 11%/9% (mid feet/legs), 10%/8% (low feet/legs) Sonic turns around before kicking both feet out. Can be angled up or down.
Up tilt 11% (foot), 9% (leg) Sonic kicks back and flip backwards. Sonic only hits with his left foot.
Down tilt 6% Sonic throws his leg out and spins around with it, giving him great reach.
Dash attack 8% (clean), 4% (late) Sonic curls into a ball to rush at any opponent in front of him.
Forward smash 16% (clean), 12% (late) Sonic winds up his fist. When he releases it, he shouts "Go!"
Up smash 2% (hit 1), 14% (hit 2) (16% total) Sonic curls low and jumps in a ball.
Down smash 15% (hit 1), 12% (hit 2) Sonic spins his legs around in a circle twice.
Neutral aerial 15%/11% (clean center/sides), 8% (mid), 5% (late) Sonic curls up and spins around to generate a sharp "shield" around him akin to Sonic 3. Useful to send opponents flying and a good combo finisher.
Forward aerial 11% (foot), 9% (leg) Sonic flips forward and sends his heel out in a front-flipping axe kick. Works similar to Mario's forward aerial.
Back aerial 16%/12% (clean leg/body), 9%/6% (late leg/body) Sonic turns around to kick behind him. Fairly strong in knockback and growth.
Up aerial 4% (hit 1), 13% (hit 2) Sonic twists his body upward with his legs out in a scissors kick fashion. One of his stronger aerial attacks.
Down aerial 10% (early hit), 9% (fall) Sonic shifts himself down with one foot out, via stall-then-fall. Can alter the trajectory somewhat.
Grab Grabs the enemy with his hands.
Pummel 3% Sonic knees the opponent.
Forward throw 3% (hit), 6% (throw) (9% total) Sonic kicks the opponent forward.
Back throw 8% Sonic flips backwards in a spinball form several times and then sends them away with his feet.
Up throw 3% (hit), 5% (throw) (8% total) Sonic tosses the opponent up and while on all fours spikes his hair out to prick them as they fall on him.
Down throw 1% (hits 1-3), 5% (throw) (8% total) Sonic lays the opponent on the ground to spin-grind on top of them.
Floor attack (front) 6% Spins around, hitting with his head.
Floor attack (back) 6% Quick foot sweep, hitting both sides.
Floor attack (trip) 5% Quick foot sweep, hitting both sides.
Edge attack (fast) 8% Gets up onto stage with a sort of flip-spin attack, returning to near the edge afterward.
Edge attack (slow) 4% (hit 1), 8% (hit 2) (12% total) Sticks out foot then the other while on his back, two consecutive hits.
Neutral special Homing Attack/Blast Attack 8% Sonic hovers in midair before chasing a single opponent close to him. He'll perform a pose after it hits.
Side special Somersault 4% (startup), 8% (jump), 1% (spin dash hits 1-4); Slide kick: 9% (clean), 6% (late) Sonic leaps slightly while in a ball, spinning until he lands. Can be linked into a kick or canceled by jumping.
Up special Spring Jump 4% (spring) A spring is summoned to give him a boost. All momentum is reset when used. Acts as a projectile in mid-air.
Down special Spin Charge 1% (hits when charging), 6-11% (dash), 4% (jump) Sonic curls himself into a ball. He can charge up for a bit to fly farther. Sonic can charge the move by holding the initial down input and repeatedly tapping the special button. Unlike in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Sonic cannot charge infinitely.
Final Smash Super Sonic 18% (startup), 16% (ram) With the seven Chaos Emeralds in hand, Sonic uses their power and flies around dealing damage and knockback to any opponents he collides with.

In competitive play

Notable players

Alternate costumes

Sonic's colours have been changed to be significantly more obvious, improving his readbility in team battles. The non-default colours are all references to other Sonic characters, while his alternate costume is based on another series that was created by SEGA, Jet Set Radio.

Sonic's alternate costumes in PM
SonicHeadSSBB.png SonicHeadRedPM.png SonicHeadPurplePM.png SonicHeadGreenPM.png SonicHeadShadowPM.png SonicHeadTailsPM.png SonicHeadSilverPM.png SonicHeadBeatPM.png

Interestingly, if Sonic is using his Silver or Beat costumes, despite not wearing them, his running animation and side taunt animation show that he is wearing red shoes.

Trivia

External links