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Official SSB4 Tier List

So, should we add characters tier placings in their articles for SSB4? This is an odd time to make one in my opinion. -- EthanEthan7sig.png(Discussion) 20:58, 1 February 2016 (EST)

Do or DI

Should we mention Do or DI in the news template and create a page for it? I think it's too small for news but it could have a page since it has some good smashers like Nairo and Dabuz. -- EthanEthan7sig.png(Discussion) 19:54, 13 March 2016 (EDT)

It should have a page. Not sure about the news template, the tournament had a high skill density but local-level numbers. Thehard (talk)


It is no longer pi day. That is all. RobSir RobSir-sig.jpg zx 13:21, 15 March 2016 (EDT)

It is no longer pi day. That is all. Xtra Shulk SSBU foruser.png Talk Edits 17:47, March 15, 2019 (EDT)


You people are just crazy. Seriously you try to hard with the april fools. The econimy is still in existance. Smash 5 also doesnt exist yet. This is Pikifan4 from the Pikmin wikis. 12:20, 1 April 2016 (EDT)

Smash 5

The news headlines don't mention that Shrek the ogre and the Incredible Hulk were yesterday (March 31st) announced for Smash 5 and that Sora from Kingdom Hearts was announced today. The Sackinator (talk) 12:32, 1 April 2016 (EDT)

Yeah... let's not added that. :/ Dots (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The Metal Gear REX 12:34, 1 April 2016 (EDT)
I'd do the edit myself, but I don't think I can. Could we add Smash 5 as an article? The Sackinator (talk) 12:35, 1 April 2016 (EDT)
No, just because it's April Fool's day doesn't mean we can do whatever we want. That would take things too far. Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 12:36, 1 April 2016 (EDT)
I think this is worth mentioning. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 12:38, 1 April 2016 (EDT)

News story suggestion

Would this work?

Am I the only one who actually likes this logo more than the real one? Can we keep it? Trainiax: Waluigi in Smash? Discuss it! 22:49, 1 April 2016 (EDT)

Probably not unfortunately. Dots (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The Keyboard 22:53, 1 April 2016 (EDT)
I could probably just upload it for me and add it to my custom color scheme. Trainiax: Waluigi in Smash? Discuss it! 23:07, 1 April 2016 (EDT)

Errors in Frame Data

There seems to be a lot of wrong data for sm4sh frame data —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiliu (talkcontribs) 21:21, 7 May 2016

Smash arenas

How long do they have the smash arenas? Mario Kart 7 Rules (talk) 14:50, 11 May 2016 (EDT)

Increase exposure over Smashpedia (

I have a feeling this has been brought up before, but is there anything we can do to increase our exposure over Smashpedia ( By a mere glance over both wikis it's obvious that the articles here on SmashWiki are of much higher quality and depth, yet Smashpedia is way over SmashWiki in terms of Google search rankings, enough so that I frequently see tournament commentators and SmashBoards users refer to that site instead of this one when they look up something. It's a little disheartening to see a "low-quality" site get used instead a higher quality one, not to mention that all the article improvements we make over here go to waste if fewer people ever see them. It's also clear in a few places that they've simply copied over whole articles or sections from us in an attempt to improve their quality. I'd ask to merge the two wikis, but from previous experience is highly reluctant to do so in general (as all wikis on their URL/name contribute to their advertising revenue). This is the next best thing I could think of. Zowayix (talk) 12:18, 26 June 2016 (EDT)

Make SmashBoards link to us again like they used to PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 12:22, 26 June 2016 (EDT)
Actually, I searched up 20 Smash Bros. Related things and 17 of them were ssbwiki as the top website PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 12:26, 26 June 2016 (EDT)
As in links on the main site and not just the forums? Zowayix (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2016 (EDT)

Name change

Can you change your name on here, like Super Mario Wiki? User: Mario Kart 7 Rules I'm working on it! (talk) 11:07, 20 March 2017 (EDT)

Why yes. MHStarCraft Mega Man X SNES sprite.png 11:09, 20 March 2017 (EDT)

Same IP info

If I have the same IP information as User: MasterTabuu then it's because we use two different computers, but we are in the same room. Aaron the Fearless Yoshi (talk) 19:45, 30 May 2017 (EDT)

Smashwiki.txt twitter?

So there's this Twitter account that seems to post some vandal edits made to the wiki. Not sure if this is a problem or not. I'll give you guys the link if needed. Penro17:06, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

It's cool, it's an account run by one of our contributors. :P Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 14:01, 17 September 2017 (EDT)
Oh, my bad lol Penro 17:05, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

Tournament news

Main page with news section

I remember this being discussed, but I can't find where, so I tought I'd share my opinion here.
I suggest the News on the main page should have a section for the tournaments separate from the actual news for the games.
I'm not a big contributor to this Wiki, so take this as a reader's feedback: I think these news are pretty crappy. I find myself having to go to the Template:News page and checking its history to see if there is some news.
I mean there's a section for NIWA news and one for SSB news, why not having three sections? I personally don't care at all about tournaments, and I think a lot of people don't either, but beside this, tournament info is objectivelly different than actual game news. They're info on people playing the games, instead of about the games themselves.

I know it may seem like a moot point now that there hasn't been any game news, but I'd much rather have it stuck at old news until a new game is announced, or something else happens, since even "there's no news" is valuable information. The last game news there has been is Miiverse closing down, and that stayed on the main page for 10 days, before being pushed away by more tournament news. When the next SSB game is released, that news piece will too be obscured immediately by more tournament news. It's ridicolous.

Just my two cents.--Kombatgod (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2018 (EST)

Sorry for late reply. I think this discussion was had somewhere before, but I am not sure. I am not entirely opposed to this and I'm interested in hearing what other's think. Serpent SKSig.png King 18:21, 26 January 2018 (EST)
Sorry, I'm against this. There's hardly any other kind of news these days, so having a second news section would be unnecessary. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 18:40, 26 January 2018 (EST)
Aaaaand just as I thought. The news about A NEW FREAKING GAME being announced, just got swept away by more tournament results. I don't get it. Why dont you want to let people know about actual news and instead only care about tournament results? (which if you think about the meaning of the terms, technically are NOT news).--Kombatgod (talk) 13:12, 22 April 2018 (EDT)
Why is there a problem with month-old news being overtaken by day-old news? Toomai Glittershine ??? The Chilled 13:48, 22 April 2018 (EDT)
In what way are tournament results not news. Also now that I've seen what this looks like and have taken a few minutes to think about how this whole thing would run, I oppose on the grounds that we are essentially uprooting month old news and putting it at the top of the list. Smash news can be very quiet, and what we will have is a news section that will sit with the same 4 items for months at a time. Serpent SKSig.png King 13:58, 22 April 2018 (EDT)

Add the Newly Released Rankings to News

Once OrionRank 2017 and PMRank 2017 end, I think it'd be a good idea to link to all of them in the news section. It would include 64 League Rankings, 2017 SSBMRank, 2016-2017 SSBBRank, PMRank 2017, Panda Global Rankings v4, and OrionRank 2017. -Pokebub (talk) 02:36, 27 January 2018 (EST)

Featured article

How often does the featured article get changed? It seems to have been stuck on Pocket for months, and maybe could be swapped out on the first of every month or something? Data (talk) 20:34, 2 July 2018 (EDT)

I'm not sure which it is currently, but the FA gets changed usually every 3 or 6 months. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 00:23, 3 July 2018 (EDT)

About the to do list

On the To Do list there is pre-release images, why is that on the to do list? George Jones.jpg George Jones Walls Can Fall.jpg 21:19, 16 July 2018 (EDT)

Because they're tagged under the Category:Pre-release images, meaning that in the future (precisely in the game's release) they should be checked to see if whatever they each depict hasn't been changed considerably since the final release.
If yes, add it to the appropriate categories, and make sure that it's stated to be a beta image; if not, simply remove the pre-release template. Hence, it's on the to-do list. — NokiiSig.png Nokiiε (T·C·L) 23:04, 16 July 2018 (EDT)

Ultimate counter broken

The countdown to Ultimate thing is broken. It has said 115 for a few days now, and having memorized the days (112 days, as of right now) I know it's wrong. I thought maybe it had to be changed manually so I checked, but that isn't how it works. Is it broken? Or does someone who knows how it works (The person who made it maybe) know what's wrong? 10:55, 17 August 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

Says 112 for me. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 19:39, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
Huh, it actually does say 115 for me.... - EndGenuity (talk) 19:42, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
It says 112 for me too. SSB4DarkSonicHead.pngSpeed48 19:45, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
It's probably caching; that said, we have a realtime JavaScript counter function, which I'll change this to instead. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Orchestral 19:53, 17 August 2018 (EDT)

Featured article hyperlink

I wonder if the title of the featured article "Super Smash Bros. Ultimate" could be edited to become a hyperlink to the page itself. As it stands, the only way to go from the featured article widget to the actual article is to locate the (...more) button at the end of the excerpt, which doesn't seem very ideal. Data (talk) 03:11, 21 August 2018 (EDT)

Interwiki links

Many of the interwiki links are using http and should be updated to https. I'm not sure if all of them are applicable, but a few of the main ones (Bulbapedia, Inkipedia, ZeldaWiki) should be updated at least. Dr. HyperCake (talk) 00:37, 26 August 2018 (EDT)

Luigi's Mansion 3DS port link

The interwiki link to the MarioWiki page for the Luigi's Mansion 3DS port doesn't lead to an actual MarioWiki page. I'm guessing it should probably lead to Luigi's Mansion#Nintendo 3DS Port (the 3DS port's section on their main Luigi's Mansion page) or just Luigi's Mansion (the page itself). Aykrivwassup (talk) 11:22, 28 August 2018 (EDT)

Nintendo Wiki

I’m sorry if this is the wrong spot to put this, but has anyone else been having problems with Nintendo Wiki? When I try to go there, it goes to a bank white screen. It’s been that way for a year now, and I’ve tried 7 different devices (2 PCs, 2 laptops, 3 mobile devices) and the problem persists. Thank you. 10:10, 4 September 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105

Please read SW:NOT as this wiki isn't tech support or for off wiki manners. George Jones.jpg George Jones Walls Can Fall.jpg 13:08, 4 September 2018 (EDT)

About the tournament-related news

I believe it would be nice if the upcoming Smash tournaments are listed somewhere in the main page. Perhaps alongside the latest results on a "tournament news" section or something, so it doesn't hinder non-tournament related news.

I suggest this because it's a bit frustrating that you keep being informed about the results after a tournament is finished, but never about the tournament being held in the first place. In my experience, this holds true for several Smash-focused sites and communities as well, where the results are guaranteed to make the front page so you don't miss them but, in contrast, you have to actively search for the upcoming events instead. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 01:10, 9 September 2018 (EDT)

Release Dates

I feel that, for the news on the Nintendo Direct, we should show that it revealed the release date for the Gamecube controller/adapter, which is November 2nd. X-Biaur19 (talk) 10:15, 24 September 2018 (EDT)X-Biaur 19

Will some stages become legal when they are hazard toggled?

Since Ultimate added this, should we say that banned only due to stage hazards-type stages can become legal due to the new Hazard Toggle? -- 12:37, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

SmashWiki is not the authority on deciding which stages are legal. Each tournament decides for itself what stages are banned, and SmashWiki attempts to document what the most prevalent designations are. – Emmett 12:41, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

Should it be allowed to make pages for useful spirits? (Like Lapras)

I Support this, but maybe making a special page for them that contains them all.

Please sign your comments with four tildes like this ( 12:42, 16 November 2018 (EST)). Also, I am of the opinion that we should hold off on this until the release in 20 days, 12 hours 21 minutes, and something seconds to see how this mechanic actually functions. That said, I don't think we need to delete Lapras' page because it's easier to expand it later than to have to recreate the page later. On a separate not, I think the Cappy page should be deleted, as he's just a spirit, and makes a minor cameo, sometimes during one move. By that logic, Galaxian should have its own page, as it appears in Pac-Man's taunt occasionally, and is a Spirit (I think, I may be mistaken). Also, this probably should have gone on Lapras' talk page, where a similar discussion is taking place. 12:42, 16 November 2018 (EST)Blueflame105

you have a good point, but as you said, Galaxian only appears in Pac-Man's taunt sometimes. Assuming you are referring to his up taunt, or 'Namco Roulette" as I've heard it called, Cappy would deserve his own page as he appears every time Mario uses side taunt, and sometimes during up-B. Samboi123 (talk) 09:32, October 29, 2020 (EDT)

First, this comment is 2 years old, and a lot has changed since then. Second, we had a discussion on something similar already. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 10:14, October 29, 2020 (EDT)

Renaming Pac-Man

I see that everywhere on the wiki, Pac-Man is named 'Pac-Man'. However, in the latest instance, which is Ultimate, Pac-Man is actually named 'PAC-MAN'. I would like to make this change to all pages, so I came here to discuss it with you. - Hugman [ User page Talk page Contributions ] 05:41, 17 November 2018 (EST)

So, I see your point but U have a question. Why didn’t you put this on the Pac-Man page itself? Also, the pages already mention that his name is sometimes stylized as PAC-MAN. So this is unnecessary, and I oppose —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 08:13, 17 November 2018 (EST)

We will not be using all-caps for Pac-Man, simply because it looks awful in paragraphs. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Brass 10:30, 17 November 2018 (EST)

Smash Ultimate took forever

Well, Ultimate is finally here, and it was worth the wait. Hence the wait. As in, we waited A WHOLE MOTHER FRIKKIN YEAR for this. WTF, Nintendo? TOO LONG!Emerlord2000 (talk) 18:53, 10 December 2018 (EST)written by Emerlord2000

This isn't what talk pages are for. Please refer to SW:TALK. Miles (talk) 18:59, 10 December 2018 (EST)


Should Ninten have his own SmashWiki page? BESTIDIOTEVER

Please remember to sign your posts with exactly four tildes. Everone123 (userpagetalkcontribs) 21:12, 16 December 2018 (EST)
Characters who only appear in Smash as trophies, stickers, spirits, etc. typically don't warrant pages. However, after reading your comment, I did convert Ninten's sticker redirect into a more appropriate disambiguation page. --PeabodySam (talk) 16:25, 18 December 2018 (EST)

Thanks for that bruh! Lee (talk) 17:29, 18 December 2018 (EST)

Changing the Featured Article

Look, I know Ultimate is cool and all. But it's been the featured article for months by now. Shouldn't we change it to something else, like maybe one of the new characters in the game? Crazy456Rhino (talk)

You can find out when we change the fetured article here SmashWiki:Featured content it is currentl on track to be changed on july 1st. Xtraneed it to be a shorter file nameTalk Edits 08:11, April 8, 2019 (EDT)


Are there any help pages on this wiki that are about infoboxes? Juju1995 (talk) 01:24, April 17, 2019 (EDT)

Wikibound account creation error

OK as a disclaimer I know this is improper use of the talk page and I apologize, however this is the only place I have access to in order to ask questions, and if necessary I will remove this section after receiving an answer. For the last few days I've been trying to create a Wikibound account so that I can create needed articles and contribute to it, however after I fill in the requirements and click "create account" I get a message like this: [XP9f--QqwFPxDV29LuGSCAAAAAc] 2019-06-11 08:02:07: Fatal exception of type "Error" and my account never gets created. Does anyone know what this means? I've tried using other browsers such as Chrome but the same thing happens. I have been trying on my phone, do I need to be on a pc in order to create an account, or is there a problem with the site? SupaToad64 MK64ToadCSP.jpg 04:08, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

I will alert their admin team. SerpentKing 09:02, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
Issue should be fixed. SerpentKing 09:41, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
It worked. Thanks a lot for your assistance and if needed I will remove this section. SupaToad64 MK64ToadCSP.jpg 09:50, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
For future reference, you are not to remove your talk page messages under any circumstances, unless it's a question that has already been answered or something else unnecessary and no one has responded to it yet. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer Leave a message if needed 00:15, June 13, 2019 (EDT)

Can't access SmashWiki on my 3DS and Wii U internet browser anymore?

Recently I've been unable to access this wiki on my 3DS and Wii U, but I can access it perfectly fine on a laptop and phone. The error code in particular is "112-1035", and the same thing happened to Wikibound and forums a few years ago. According to this thread, the reason is because the systems' browser is incompatible with the new SSL certificate for the website, and I was wondering did this website also recently get a new security certificate? And are there other NIWA sites that also got a certificate upgrade? SupaToad64 MK64ToadCSP.jpg 23:17, June 14, 2019 (EDT)


I posted this question before but cant find the article so... what do you use to translate words into japanese? スマッシュブラザーズが最高 (talk) 20:04, October 14, 2019 (EDT)

Google Translate, or we do have some (mostly inactive) Japanese/English speakers SerpentKing 20:12, October 14, 2019 (EDT)

Is iTranslate okay? スマッシュブラザーズが最高 (talk) 19:16, October 15, 2019 (EDT)

As long as it can translate between languages, sure. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 19:53, October 15, 2019 (EDT)

Account Deletion

I created an account on the smash wiki, and I forgot the password. I know it sounds sketchy, but "Mad Hunter" has created 0 Edits, and uses the same IP as this message (If it doesn't, tell me and I will try to fix it, I may have temporarily tried using a different computer.). I would ask if you could delete the account so I can use that name, or give me the password for it, although I don't care which. 14:27, November 20, 2019 (EST)

The best place to ask this is on an administrator talk page, specifically the Bureaucrats. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 14:45, November 20, 2019 (EST)

Cannot create account

Hello, I cannot create an account because "I have tried to create one within the past 1 day". I got this error yesterday and waited but still got it today. 14:28, March 8, 2020 (EDT)

It's 24 hours, but more importantly, why don't you use your Yoshi1 account --Porplemontage (talk) 16:13, March 8, 2020 (EDT)
I forgot my password and there is no email associated with the account. My email is 18:44, March 8, 2020 (EDT)

EarthBound: Down Under

Can someone add this to major upcoming releases for AFD? Thanks. For my AFD signiture. OmegαToαd64: I'm the best! 22:12, March 31, 2020 (EDT)

Removing Final Fantasy VII remake

Can I remove it since it is already out? Weegeegamingicon.pngWeegeegaming|talkWeegeegamingicon.png 08:50, April 15, 2020 (EDT)

Games have to stay at least week or two to be removed. There's a talk for those kind of things. 09:55, April 15, 2020 (EDT)


Does Xenoblade Chronicles Future Connected count as a separate game or is it a part to the Definitive Edition? S3AHAWK (talk) 14:09, April 25, 2020 (EDT)

Dragon Quest?

Why is XI S listed in upcoming? Isn't it already out? And I checked the eShop. It's not listed as coming soon. Magolor04726 (talk) 13:05, October 7, 2020 (EDT)

The game is coming to other consoles and PC which is why it's listed ThegameandwatchIcon2.png Thegameandwatch My Signature from October to November because Steve is releasing on October 13, 2020. The Nerd 13:10, October 7, 2020 (EDT)
Oh, OK. My bad. Magolor04726 (talk) 13:13, October 7, 2020 (EDT)

How to make a new page?

Hello, I’d like to make a “Piston” page after I uploaded Piston.gif. Does anyone know how to make a page? “If you know how to make a page then replace this comment with how” —Preceding unsigned comment added by My lol (talkcontribs) 14:10, October 8, 2020 (EDT)

To create a page, you have to be autoconfirmed (7 days, 10 edits). S3AHAWK The Spooky OneThis image is my signature icon. Also seen on Wikibound as File:S3AHAWK SIG.png 16:49, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
A page for piston is also not needed since it's part of Steve's moveset. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 16:50, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
To further elaborate, we only make pages for special moves, like Link's Boomerang, and a few other special cases like Samus's Grapple Beam. Other moveset elements, like Ness's yo-yo or baseball bat, don't get their own pages. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 16:57, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
Actually we do, but those are for details on the hitboxes, technical data, etc. Black Vulpine of the 🦊Furry Nation🐺. Furries make the internets go! :3 22:20, October 8, 2020 (EDT)

Why can’t I even make a user page

Lol - bruh, even with user pages >:(

You have to be autoconfirmed to create one S3AHAWK The Spooky OneThis image is my signature icon. Also seen on Wikibound as File:S3AHAWK SIG.png 18:48, October 8, 2020 (EDT)


I mean I am happy but I’m wondering not angry I am happy after all. Don’t remove it tho—Preceding unsigned comment added by My lol (talkcontribs) 19:00, October 8, 2020 (EDT)

It is best to keep discussions on the relevant page. In this case you should do so on House of Boom or File:Piston.gif. You can also check the revision history to see when it was added and by who.
Also, always sign you comments with 4 tildes (~~~~). --CanvasK (talk) 19:11, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
To add on, no one has ownership of anything on the wiki. That includes user pages and uploaded images. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 19:24, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
Reply to “Creme” - I was wondering, not angry ok?—Preceding unsigned comment added by My lol (talkcontribs) 19:27, October 8, 2020 (EDT)


Why doesn't Enderman telloport. Why can't Steve and Alex place down fences. Why can't Zombie wear armor just like in the regular Minecraft. Why Doesn't Mario Have a Fire flower and a Ice flower costume. Why don't the Koopalings ever come out of there Koopa clown cars. Why can't you play as a creeper. Can you add an among us character. can NINTENDO MAKE A SEQUAL TO SUPER SMASH BROS please! DOES ANYONE EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!?!?!? And finally, Why don't The game add more Super Mario odessy Stages.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardchestnut (talkcontribs) 19:15, November 9, 2020 (EST)

This is not the proper use of a talk page. Read SW:TALK. --CanvasK (talk) 19:21, November 9, 2020 (EST)

Spirit Board and Online Play events in the news

I was wondering if the upcoming/current Spirit Board events, as well as the upcoming/current event for Tournament mode in Online play, could be added to the news section, be it in the Smash Bros. News box or a separate one. I think those events are reflecting the current state of the latest game in the series and are a natural fit on the main page. Ponyshment PonyshmentSignature.png 10:31, November 21, 2020 (EST)