User talk:Porplemontage

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What's this? PenroPenroDarkPitHead.png PenroZSSHead.png 20:26, 7 April 2016 (EDT)

Well, it's so that I can move my user talk page to archive it then simply update that number and all the archives will link to the correct number of archives... --Porplemontage (talk) 20:39, 7 April 2016 (EDT)
I see. Thank you! PenroPenroDarkPitHead.png PenroZSSHead.png 20:57, 7 April 2016 (EDT)

Bad title[edit]

I dont know how to explain it, but here is an example that i saw (Its by the sidebar) PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the Team Liquid 10:47, 16 April 2016 (EDT)

I'm no expert like Porple, but it seems to be due to the fact that the article was deleted, which also deleted all of its revisions. Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 11:05, 16 April 2016 (EDT)
Yes. The page and revisions are deleted, so you can't view them that way or do a diff. Administrators can access them, but it's a different process. --Porplemontage (talk) 13:30, 16 April 2016 (EDT)


Do you ever use it? Just curious. --BeepYouSignature.png BeepYou, a user with no grammar at all :v (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2016 (EDT)

Nope! --Porplemontage (talk) 17:02, 22 April 2016 (EDT)


Any chance you could update it to Smash 4 instead of Brawl? Penro (Talk) 21:15, 2 May 2016 (EDT)

Sure thing. --Porplemontage (talk) 21:23, 2 May 2016 (EDT)

So MediaWiki sorta broke the code tag[edit]

as in here. Any quick fix for this or are we going to have to come up with something? Serpent SKSig.png King 15:02, 9 July 2016 (EDT)

Also yeah, probably going to happen wherever there is a double-lined code block. Serpent SKSig.png King 15:08, 9 July 2016 (EDT)
Good catch! --Porplemontage (talk) 15:38, 9 July 2016 (EDT)

Right change request[edit]

As per Forum:Page creation rights, can you please change the "createpage" right to group "Users"? thanks! Serpent SKSig.png King 20:24, 23 July 2016 (EDT)

You got it! --Porplemontage (talk) 23:13, 23 July 2016 (EDT)
Thanks! Serpent SKSig.png King 00:33, 24 July 2016 (EDT)

Name Change[edit]

I wanted to be named to Megalodon966, but Toomai hasn't renamed me yet, I have been waiting for nearly a week. Is there any chance you can do it? Thanks! AlbumArt-Dixie.png TabuuandMasterCore 22:08, 25 July 2016 (EDT)

I have vetoed that name change request. The reason will become clear shortly. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Superlative 10:49, 27 July 2016 (EDT)

Problem[edit] so i was trying to make a draft for a page and i went into the what links here option and when trying to look something up the search results would only turn up in the bottom left corner, I only tried it on Vector PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 15:25, 6 August 2016 (EDT)

Can you post a screenshot? --Porplemontage (talk) 15:32, 6 August 2016 (EDT)
Media:For Porple.png PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 16:18, 6 August 2016 (EDT)
Thanks for that. I haven't been able to recreate the issue. Can you check if it happens in Monobook? What about when you're logged out (this link will let you use Vector logged-out)? Is it still an issue after clearing your cache? --Porplemontage (talk) 17:30, 6 August 2016 (EDT)
It works in Monobook, only on pages that are not created, and only if you press the what links here button from the page creation screen PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 18:20, 6 August 2016 (EDT)

What's going on?[edit]

Why does the wiki have the same format as Wikipedia, resulting in the layout being so messed up that my userpage history takes me directly to my userpage, my CSS is completely useless, and I can't undo edits without rollback? Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 22:27, 9 August 2016 (EDT) Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 22:27, 9 August 2016 (EDT)

Nothing's going on. Did your computer mess up loading the CSS? --Porplemontage (talk) 22:37, 9 August 2016 (EDT)
Are you on the mobile site by chance? Try clicking this --Porplemontage (talk) 22:40, 9 August 2016 (EDT)
The latter worked, thanks. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 06:18, 10 August 2016 (EDT)

ArticleIcons CSS edit request[edit]

I'm working on a rewrite of Template:ArticleIcons as a list instead of a table, at User:Rigel Kent/ArticleIcons draft. Since it's transcluded on so many pages, some skin-specific CSS should save some bandwidth, while improving display in Vector and Minerva. Would this be okay?

#ArticleIcons {
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 100;
    right: .6em;
    top: -2.4em;
#ArticleIcons ul {
    margin: 0;
#ArticleIcons li {
    display: inline;
    margin: 0 1px 0 0;


#ArticleIcons {
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 100;
    right: .6em;
    top: -2.8em;
#ArticleIcons ul {
    margin: 0;
#ArticleIcons li {
    display: inline;
    margin: 0 1px 0 0;


#ArticleIcons {
    position: absolute;
    right: .6em;
    top: .9em;
#ArticleIcons li {
    display: inline;
    margin: 0 1px 0 0;
.overlay-enabled #ArticleIcons {
    display: none;

ライケン Rigel Kent (talk) 15:14, 16 August 2016 (EDT)

Sure, the CSS pages can be used. Has this been approved by the administrators? --Porplemontage (talk) 20:26, 16 August 2016 (EDT)
I left a message at Template talk:ArticleIcons#List instead of table for performance. I got some feedback about simplicity, but no mention of technical problems. One catch, though: if I make the template edit without the CSS edits, the display will look very strange. Even if I put in temporary inline styles, that'll only work for one skin. It might be better if you copy User:Rigel Kent/ArticleIcons draft to Template:ArticleIcons at the same time as the skin-specific CSS edits. ライケン Rigel Kent (talk) 00:14, 24 August 2016 (EDT)
No approval given. Still do not see the need for the change. Serpent SKSig.png King 00:56, 24 August 2016 (EDT)

Some pages load slowly[edit]

These ones, in particular. Why does it happen? Is it because of a glitch in the codes? --BeepYouSignature.png BeepYou BeepYouSignature.png (talk) 18:54, 24 November 2016 (EST)

It might be that GIF thumbnails were being generated, which takes some time on the first load. --Porplemontage (talk) 22:35, 24 November 2016 (EST)

So I'm stuck, maybe you can help[edit]

So as you see here, for some reason the nav template is pushing down the first item in the list. I have run through the HTML/CSS in Firefox's developer kit and found that there is literally no reason why this should be happening. Can you think of anything? thanks! Serpent SKSig.png King 23:21, 21 December 2016 (EST)

Yeah that's a strange deal, found a workaround for it though! --Porplemontage (talk) 14:37, 22 December 2016 (EST)
Sweet, thanks! Serpent SKSig.png King 18:13, 22 December 2016 (EST)

So we have had multiple login issues[edit]

...everyone who has had them yet has reported that they use Google Chrome. I have heard that Google has been neglecting sites that use the old http protocol. How difficult is it to switch to https? Thanks Serpent SKSig.png King 20:38, 9 February 2017 (EST)

Is that why people have been having issues? I will look into switching to https. For now, clearing your cookies seems to work as a temp fix. Thanks for the info! --Porplemontage (talk) 20:49, 9 February 2017 (EST)
Let it be known that while I am one of the victims, it only appears to happen on the laptop provided to me by my school; every other computer I've gone on logs me in fine. Any thoughts on the matter? AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Lovely Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 23:42, 9 February 2017 (EST)
Well, I've switched the site to HTTPS. So clear the cookies on your school laptop and give it another go! --Porplemontage (talk) 23:46, 9 February 2017 (EST)
Thanks for that! Serpent SKSig.png King 00:16, 10 February 2017 (EST)
No problem! --Porplemontage (talk) 00:18, 10 February 2017 (EST)

How good is your memory?[edit]

Could you please restrict editing to autoconfirmed for April Fools? I can remind you the day before if you'd like. Thanks! Serpent SKSig.png King 21:59, 24 March 2017 (EDT)

You got it! --Porplemontage (talk) 23:50, 24 March 2017 (EDT)
This is your reminder :P Serpent SKSig.png King 02:42, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

While your at it, and sorry for bugging you twice[edit]

The loading animation on the recent changes has not worked since the mediawiki update. Not really a big deal but if it could be easily fixed, that would be nice. Thanks! Serpent SKSig.png King 03:14, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

Sure thing! --Porplemontage (talk) 03:39, 25 March 2017 (EDT)


We're going to want edits restricted to autoconfirmed for April Fools' Day, plus a few hours on either side. Maybe start it at 7pm or 8pm EDT today, and end after ~32 hours. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Victorious 06:39, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

Serpent King already reminded him to do that. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Irish Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 10:25, 31 March 2017 (EDT)
Done. --Porplemontage (talk) 19:14, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

Server costs[edit]

Hi there, Omega Tyrant told me you're the one who handles the hosting of SmashWiki. Can you tell me how much it is per month? I need a point of reference for a wiki I'm looking to self-host. RoyboyX Talk 02:39, 14 July 2017 (EDT)

It depends on what you want. I assume you would want to rent a host server rather than purchase one, and that can cost anywhere from $10 to $200/mo depending on what you need, here's a decent point of reference. The domain is separate from that, and here is the information on that. Apart from that, MediaWiki is free, so there should be no additional costs. Serpent SKSig.png King 03:06, 14 July 2017 (EDT)

you founded this wiki too?![edit]

That's so cool! Larry Koopa (talk) 08:19, 18 October 2017 (EDT)

Please read SW:TALK... Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 09:04, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
I'd say "founding this wiki" falls under the "user contributions" category, but just by a hair. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 09:10, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
For the record, I didn't found the wiki, I simply host it. Check out SmashWiki:About. --Porplemontage (talk) 11:47, 18 October 2017 (EDT)

New link icons[edit]

I added some link icons for some more specific sites (like we already did for YouTube) and didn't realize you'd done something special to the existing ones. So I guess I should ask you to do whatever that is so this edit can be undone. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Quintonic 20:08, 4 February 2018 (EST)

Ok, cool! --Porplemontage (talk) 23:13, 4 February 2018 (EST)

New namespaces[edit]

The community wants new namespaces to put crews and tournaments in. Please do the following:

  • Create a Tournament: namespace, with the same properties as the current Smasher: namespace. (I'm assuming we get corresponding talk namespaces for "free".)
  • Create a Team: namespace, with the same properties as the current Smasher: namespace.
  • Give the Team: namespace an extra name of Crew: (as Image: is to File:).
  • Use moveBatch.php to seed the namespaces with the correct pages (keeping redirects). Once you're ready to do this I will give you the two listfiles over Discord. Assign User:eXemplary Logic as the user (if necessary) and use something like "seeding new namespace" for the reason.
    • I'm not sure if this will move talk pages correspondingly (the reference page I linked to says nothing of it). If it doesn't, I can make a listfile or two to move them as well.

Thanks. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Metroid 18:44, 17 February 2018 (EST)

OK, ready for list! --Porplemontage (talk) 18:53, 17 February 2018 (EST)

Guess what day's coming up[edit]

Please restrict editing to autoconfirmed at about 7-8pm EDT today, and undo it after about 32 hours. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Loony 11:26, 31 March 2018 (EDT)

You got it! --Porplemontage (talk) 11:54, 31 March 2018 (EDT)

Signature glitch[edit]

I have a glitch with my signature, I have recently updated a file on one of the images in my sig it looks glitchy. The file name is George Jones.jpg and when I updated it, on talk pages it has the old file version, but compressed. I don't know why it is that way. But it has no problems on my user page as it updated there. George Jones.jpg Corrin Fan Walls Can Fall.jpg 15:16, 7 November 2018 (EST)

When you upload new versions of a file, sometimes it can take a browser cache refresh to get a few things right. Do a ctrl+r and it should sort out. Serpent SKSig.png King 15:19, 7 November 2018 (EST)


Why are you almost always inactive Sammybambam11 (talk) 15:06, 14 December 2018 (EST)

I'm busy making the server work. --Porplemontage (talk) 15:18, 14 December 2018 (EST)

The wayback machine[edit]

I just visited smash wiki on october 6th 2010 Sammybambam11 (talk) 15:25, 14 December 2018 (EST)

Please read SW:TALK, almost none of your recent talk page posts are appropriate uses of a talk page. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 17:57, 14 December 2018 (EST)

Recent changes[edit]

Did you by any chance remove the auto update option in recent changes? SugarCookie420 (talk) 11:33, 22 January 2019 (EST)

Nevermind, I guess it's back for me. SugarCookie420 (talk) 13:38, 22 January 2019 (EST)
I'll take that back... nevertheless did any of your work recently affect the auto update and recent changes? SugarCookie420 (talk) 13:41, 22 January 2019 (EST)
It's there, clear cache or do CTRL + F5. --Porplemontage (talk) 14:36, 22 January 2019 (EST)

Can you change wiki Status[edit]

Can you change wiki status. it has been on -35 for too long. Realbrownranger (talk) 12:46, 13 February 2019 (EST)Realbrownranger

We don't need to right now, there is still a lot of work to be done. SugarCookie 420 12:53, 13 February 2019 (EST)
Guys please don't bother porple with stuff admins can do. Serpent SKSig.png King 13:02, 13 February 2019 (EST)


File:Flag of Ecuador.svg looks to have a problem, and my research suggests that raising $wgSVGMetadataCutoff should fix it. The default value is 256kB, the flag in question is 273kB, and it's one of the most complicated flags by a long shot, so I'd hope it doesn't need to be raised too much. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Different 19:36, 17 February 2019 (EST)

Sure, no problem! It didn't work right away but looks like it did the trick after re-uploading. --Porplemontage (talk) 21:01, 17 February 2019 (EST)

Related enough to not bother with a new section: What's going on with Category:Pages with broken file links? I converted Template:Flag to use .svg instead of .png, and everything's worked fine. But these few pages still appear in the category even though they look fine, they're not listed in the category on the pages themselves, and a null edit doesn't change anything. And it's been two days so any daily maintenance scripts should have fixed the issue. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Indescribable 06:39, 22 February 2019 (EST)

MediaWiki only checks if that category needs to be added or removed when a link is added or removed from the page. You definitely found a scenario where it shows that their implementation of this is flawed (updating the template then creating the redirects). When this happens, adding/removing/modifying a link on the page or template then reverting should clear it up. --Porplemontage (talk) 08:50, 22 February 2019 (EST)

Question about using the tabber on other wikis[edit]

Are you planning on installin the tabber system on your other wikis, (such as Halo or Mario), or are you only going to have the tabber on this one?

Is this even the correct use of a talk page? If I’m not allowed to mention your other wikis here, I’ll remove this promptly Lou Cena (talk) 23:23, 2 March 2019 (EST)

KHWiki has the same system used here and makes heavy use of it. Halo/Destiny have a slightly different system, as seen here for example. Mario I would add it if there is a need/consensus (proposal) for it. --Porplemontage (talk) 23:30, 2 March 2019 (EST) Pikipedia has a different but similar system as well.

3DS stage inages appear to be incompatible with tabber[edit]

I don’t k ow if I made a typo of any sort, but when trying to place 3DS stages in a tabber (such as Pictochat 2, the 3DS image doesn’t ppear to load. I directly copied the file over, so I’m wondering if they’re incompatible wih the tabber. Lou Cena (talk) 22:23, March 25, 2019 (EDT)

Thats not how the tabber works. It can't simply discriminate with a console. Also I know it works beause ive seen it in use on Duck Hunt (stage) Xtra Shulk SSBU foruser.png Talk Edits 07:24, March 26, 2019 (EDT)

A possible issue with Template:Infobox Character General[edit]

Whenever I edited it to update it or add in missing info, the edits would not show up. For example, on the Mii page, I tried to add in the mii universe to the universe section. It didn’t show up when I saved the page, even though the code still says Mii instead of Super Smash Bros. Same thing with Pokémon Trainer. When I added in that only the male trainer was in Brawl, it also didn’t show up. Is there something else on the template I’m missing? Lou Cena (talk) 18:44, June 6, 2019 (EDT)

It only uses the "universe" parameter as a fallback. The first thing it does is check the "name" parameter against this switch statement. Since "Mii" is listed there, that's what it uses. Similar deal with Smash appearances: There is a switch statement in Template:Infobox Character General that determines the appearances based on "name" and only uses the "games" parameter as a fallback. --Porplemontage (talk) 18:57, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
The Mii thing makes sense now. I’ll just leave it up to discussion now. However, for the Smash appearances thing, I can’t find Alph or the Koopalings on there. Is that how they get the freedom to be listed “as an alternate costume for X” instead of adhering strictly to the code? Lou Cena (talk) 19:02, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
Yes, if it's not on there then the parameter will be respected. Porplemontage (talk) 19:10, June 6, 2019 (EDT)

The navigation box and a redirect[edit]

Currently, List of Super Smash Bros. series characters is being discussed to be moved to Fighter. While it does seem like a nearly unanimous decision to move, I’m hesitant on calling it a consensus yet, mostly because of the navigation box on the top left corner of the website, no matter what page you’re on. Currently, it links over to the page we’re discussing moving, and moving that page would cause a redirect. Is there a template that can change that, or is it hard coded into the website? Lou Cena (talk) 15:07, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Yeah it can be easily changed through MediaWiki:Sidebar. --Porplemontage (talk) 15:08, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Quick Question[edit]

Hey again, it's Mono. Let's say my signature has reached its character limit and there are still more characters I want to add, and the image in my signature has a considerably long filename. How would I go about shortening it? Do I have to reupload it again with a different name, and is there a method to delete the original one? Monokuro Monokuro signature icon.png [talk | contribs] 22:39, January 9, 2020 (EST)

Set your sig to:
And check the "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" box. --Porplemontage (talk) 22:46, January 9, 2020 (EST)
"Treat signature" box has been already been checked, set my sig to that. My name's in small caps now, but I need the pipe character between talk and contribs to be replaced with a "•", and two hyphens to be placed before my name. Also, do you mind me asking how the code works? I find it quite interesting. --Monokuro Monokuro signature icon.png [talk | contribs] 23:04, January 9, 2020 (EST)
You can edit it here. I added the dot. Hitting the signature button in the editor toolbar automatically adds two hyphens before it so you don't necessarily need to include that in the sig itself. --Porplemontage (talk) 23:07, January 9, 2020 (EST)
Oooh, okay. So it's essentially a substitution in which you can just reference that. Thanks for letting me know about this, it helps a lot. --monokuro Monokuro signature icon.png [talkcontributions] 23:23, January 9, 2020 (EST)

CSS help[edit]

Hey Porple, I'm not that experienced with css so I was wondering: You know how in recent changes and page histories staff users have different colors for their username links (green for admins, yellow for bcrats, etc.), and for my css I was wanting to add colors to usernames of users who have rollback (specifically #1f72ba for OmegaToad64).

I got it to work before to a minor extent (only on the top of the recent changes page but not anywhere else) but it doesn't show up anymore. Do you happen to know how I can make username colors in my personal css? You can just put the code here and I'll add it myself if posdible, thanks in advance 001Toad.jpg OmegαToαd64 21:40, February 22, 2020 (EST)

Oh you put it in my css? Well thanks for the help, it works! 001Toad.jpg OmegαToαd64 21:58, February 22, 2020 (EST)

Why hidden categories?[edit]

I'm wondering what the purpose is to converting most/all of the "wiki meta" categories to be "hidden".

Also the indirection you created from "Pages with broken file links" to "Articles with broken file links" means Template:MaintenanceLinks no longer reports the right number (now it only counts its one sub-category). Toomai Glittershine ??? The Sphere 10:52, March 21, 2020 (EDT)

Well, I wanted to have a way to distinguish between normal "content" categories and categories about the article itself and what it needs, so that the latter group doesn't get lost within the main group. I decided to use MediaWiki's built-in hidden categories feature, but alter it from the default behavior a bit. By default, hidden categorizes are hidden to everyone, and you have to go into your preferences to show them. I didn't like that users had to dig into their preferences to see them, so I made them hidden only to anonymous users and shown to logged-in users by default. I changed the name from Hidden categories to Meta categories since they're not super hidden if all users see them. The reason I kept them hidden to anons is the idea that 99% of anon users are just readers and not showing categories about the article itself sort of "cleans up" the categories for them and removes extra info mostly geared towards editors (another reason I kept some hiding function was so that the HIDDENCAT magic word still made some sense in how we're using it). Now, we have a lot of flexibility here. We could show the meta categories to anons as well so the only benefit is separating them out, or put it back to how it was. And I fixed the maintenance count :) --Porplemontage (talk) 12:47, March 21, 2020 (EDT)

Ready for the big day?[edit]

Just a reminder to restrict editing to autoconfirmed users at about 7-8pm EDT, then undo it about 32 hours later please. Thanks! 001Toad.jpg OmegαToαd the Toαd Wαrrior (BUP) 05:10, March 31, 2020 (EDT)

Yes, the wiki is programmed to automatically restrict editing each year from 8pm on 3/31 to 4am on 4/2 (Eastern). --Porplemontage (talk) 05:35, March 31, 2020 (EDT)