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*{{change|Charizard now hangs onto the ledge with one hand instead of two.}}
*{{change|Charizard now hangs onto the ledge with one hand instead of two.}}
*{{change|Charizard has two new [[taunts]]: one where it stands upright for its up taunt (similar to {{SSBU|Ridley}}'s down taunt), and another where it does a quick aerial flip and roars during its side taunt. Its former up taunt is now its down taunt.}}
*{{change|Charizard has two new [[taunts]]: one where it stands upright for its up taunt (similar to {{SSBU|Ridley}}'s down taunt), and another where it does a quick aerial flip and roars during its side taunt. Its former up taunt is now its down taunt.}}
*{{change|While maintaining its Flare Blitz victory pose from ''Smash 4,'' Charizard regains its victory pose from ''Brawl'' where the Pokémon Trainer pets its neck, replacing the roaring victory pose from ''Smash 4''.}}
*{{change|While maintaining its Flare Blitz victory pose from ''Smash 4'', Charizard regains its victory pose from ''Brawl'' where the Pokémon Trainer pets its neck, replacing the roaring victory pose from ''Smash 4''.}}


===Attributes===
===Attributes===
*{{change|Charizard is once again part of {{SSBU|Pokémon Trainer}}, allowing it to switch to {{SSBU|Squirtle}} and {{SSBU|Ivysaur}}.}}
*{{change|Charizard is once again part of {{SSBU|Pokémon Trainer}}, allowing it to switch to {{SSBU|Squirtle}} and {{SSBU|Ivysaur}}.}}
*{{buff|Like all characters, Charizard's jumpsquat animation lasts 3 frames (down from 7).}}
*{{buff|Like all characters, Charizard's jumpsquat animation lasts 3 frames (down from 7).}}
*{{nerf|Charizard [[walk|walks]] slightly slower (1.2 → 1.187).}}
*{{nerf|Charizard [[walk]]s slightly slower (1.2 → 1.187).}}
*{{buff|Charizard's [[initial dash]] speed is exponentially higher (1 → 2.28), going from the slowest in the game to the 4th fastest.}}
*{{buff|Charizard [[run]]s faster (2 → 2.2).}}
*{{buff|Charizard [[run|runs]] faster (2 → 2.2).}}
**{{buff|Its [[initial dash]] speed is significantly faster (1 → 2.28), going from the slowest in the game to the 5th fastest.}}
*{{buff|Charizard's [[air speed]] is much higher (0.92 → 1.103).}}
*{{buff|Charizard's [[air speed]] is much higher (0.92 → 1.103).}}
*{{buff|Charizard has significantly higher [[traction]] (0.04 → 0.11), no longer being tied with {{SSBU|Mewtwo}} for having the second lowest traction in the game. This allows it to punish opponents out of shield much more easily.}}
*{{buff|Charizard has significantly higher [[traction]] (0.04 → 0.11), no longer being tied with {{SSBU|Mewtwo}} for having the second lowest traction in the game. This allows it to punish opponents out of shield much more easily.}}
*{{buff|Charizard moves its head to a less vulnerable position during [[forward air]], [[down smash]], [[grab|standing grab]], and when hanging on the ledge.}}
*{{buff|Charizard moves its head closer to itself during [[forward aerial]], standing [[grab]], and when hanging on the ledge, leaving it less vulnerable to attacks.}}
*{{nerf|Charizard now has hurtboxes on the base of its wings.}}
*{{change|Charizard's midair jumps' animations have been changed to be more distinguishable from each other.}}
*{{change|Charizard's midair jumps' animations have been changed to be more distinguishable from each other.}}
*{{change|Charizard's [[falling speed]] and fast falling speed are much faster (1.4 → 1.52) and (2.24 → 2.432) respectively. This makes it more prone to combos, but improves its [[tomahawk]] and overall [[neutral game]].}}
*{{change|Charizard's [[falling speed]] and fast falling speed are much faster (1.4 → 1.52) and (2.24 → 2.432) respectively. This makes it more prone to combos, but improves its [[tomahawk]] and overall [[neutral game]].}}
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*[[Neutral attack]]:
*[[Neutral attack]]:
**{{buff|The first hit transitions into the second hit faster (frame 10 → 7), which transitions into the third hit faster (frame 10 → 8), allowing the whole combo to connect more smoothly.}}
**{{buff|The first hit transitions into the second hit faster (frame 10 → 7), which transitions into the third hit faster (frame 10 → 8), allowing the whole combo to connect more smoothly.}}
**{{nerf|All hits have smaller hitboxes, with the third hit having one of them removed (4.5u/4u/3u → 2.4u/2.4u/2.6u (hit 1), 2.8u/2.8u/3.2u (hit 2), 6.5u/5.5u/5u/4u → 5u/4u/4u (hit 3)), reducing the attack range.}}
**{{nerf|All hits have a higher hitlag multiplier (1× → 1.4× (hit 1), 1.2× (hit 2), 1.6× (hit 3)), giving opponents more time to [[SDI]] each hit and [[DI]] the last hit.}}
**{{nerf|The first and second hits deal less damage (3% → 2.5% (hit 1), 4% → 2.5% (hit 2)).}}
**{{nerf|The first and second hits deal less damage (3% → 2.5% (hit 1), 4% → 2.5% (hit 2)).}}
**{{change|The first and second hits have altered angles and knockback to keep opponents close to Charizard, like other neutral attacks. This allows them to connect and [[jab lock]] more consistently, but removes their [[jab cancel]] setups against grounded opponents.}}
**{{nerf|The first hit no longer deals [[set knockback]] (26/22 set/100 scaling → 20/20/24/20 base/30/28/25/25 scaling), causing it to connect less reliably into the next hits at very high percents.}}
**{{nerf|The last hit has fewer hitboxes, and the remaining hitboxes are smaller (6.5u/5.5u/5u/4u 5u/4u/4u), reducing the attack range.}}
**{{nerf|The third hit has a shorter hitbox duration (frames 7-9 → 7-8).}}
**{{change|Charizard rears back in a more pronounced fashion during the ending lag of neutral attack's last hit.}}
**{{change|The first and second hits have altered angles to keep opponents close to Charizard (120°/[[361]]° → 361°/180° (hit 1), 80°/55°/30° → 361° (hit 2)) like other neutral attacks, and have gained a [[hitstun modifier]] of 2, with the second hit also dealing less knockback (25/40 base/50 scaling → 20 base/30/28/25 scaling). This allows them to connect and [[jab lock]] more consistently, but removes their [[jab cancel]] setups against grounded opponents.}}
**{{change|The third hit launches at a consistent angle (70°/60°/50°/45° 60°).}}
**{{change|Charizard rears back in a more pronounced fashion during the ending lag of the third hit.}}
*[[Forward tilt]]:
*[[Forward tilt]]:
**{{buff|Forward tilt has a new sweetspot hitbox on frame 12 that is centered in front of Charizard's tail, with the original sweetspot remaining intact. This makes the sweetspot larger and prohibits issues with the [[z-axis]].}}
**{{buff|Forward tilt has a new sweetspot hitbox on frame 12 that is centered in front of Charizard's tail, with the original sweetspot remaining intact. This makes the sweetspot larger and prohibits issues with the [[z-axis]].}}
**{{buff|It has less ending lag (FAF 43 → 38).}}
**{{buff|It has less ending lag (FAF 43 → 38).}}
**{{nerf|It has more startup lag with a shorter duration (frames 11-13 → 12-13).}}
**{{buff|The sweetspot deals more knockback (40 base/100 scaling → 45/104).}}
**{{buff|The sweetspot deals more knockback (40 base/100 scaling → 45/104).}}
**{{nerf|It has more startup with a shorter hitbox duration (frames 11-13 → 12-13).}}
*[[Up tilt]]:
*[[Up tilt]]:
**{{change|Up tilt has an altered animation, with Charizard jumping higher and its wings spreading out more to its sides.}}
**{{change|Up tilt has an altered animation, with Charizard jumping higher and its wings spreading out more to its sides.}}
**{{buff|In addition to the hitbox above Charizard, it possesses new hitboxes covering its wings as they spread out. This increases the move's lateral range above Charizard, although due to the high placements of these hitboxes, it still cannot effectively hit grounded opponents at Charizard's sides.}}
**{{buff|In addition to the hitbox above Charizard, it possesses new hitboxes covering its wings as they spread out. This increases the move's lateral range above Charizard, although due to the high placements of these hitboxes, it still cannot effectively hit grounded opponents at its sides.}}
**{{nerf|It has a shorter hitbox duration (frames 9-13 → 9-12).}}
**{{nerf|It has a shorter hitbox duration (frames 9-13 → 9-12).}}
**{{nerf|It launches opponents slightly away from Charizard instead of towards it (96° → 78°/84°) and deals much less knockback (40 base/130 scaling → 50 base/80/85 scaling). It can no longer KO opponents below 200%, and the new angle and ending lag hurt the move's combo ability.}}
**{{nerf|It launches opponents slightly away from Charizard instead of towards it (96° → 78°/84°), and deals much less knockback (40 base/130 scaling → 50 base/80/85 scaling). This collectively worsens both the move's combo and KO potential, stringing into itself less reliably at low percents, and still having too much ending lag to combo into other moves, despite Charizard's faster jumpsquat, while it is now unable to KO grounded opponents below 200% (compared to KOing below 140% under the same circumstances in ''Smash 4'').}}
**{{nerf|Due to Charizard gaining hurtboxes on its wings, the move is riskier to use as an anti-air option, as these hurtboxes extend upward during the active frames. This makes it easier for opponents' aerial attacks to trade with Charizard.}}
**{{nerf|Due to Charizard once again possessing hurtboxes on its wings, the move is riskier to use as an anti-air option, as these hurtboxes now extend upward especially during the active frames, leaving Charizard more vulnerable to trades with aerial attacks.}}
**{{change|The body hitbox uses a [[normal]] effect with punch SFX, instead of [[slash]] ones.}}
*[[Down tilt]]:
*[[Down tilt]]:
**{{change|Down tilt no longer has a windbox drawing opponents in.}}
**{{buff|The changes to [[jostle]] mechanics allow down tilt to connect more consistently against opponents right next to Charizard.}}
**{{buff|The changes to [[jostle]] mechanics allow down tilt to connect better against nearby opponents despite the removal of the windbox.}}
**{{nerf|The hitbox does not extend as far (Z offset: 7u-16u 7u-13.5u), considerably reducing its range.}}
**{{nerf|The hitbox does not extend as far (Z offset: 7-16 7-13.5), considerably reducing its range.}}
**{{change|It no longer has a point-blank windbox to push opponents into the hitboxes; however, this is made negligible by the jostle changes.}}
**{{change|It features a tighter animation.}}
**{{change|The headbutt has a more pronounced animation.}}
*[[Dash attack]]:
*[[Dash attack]]:
**{{buff|Dash attack deals more damage (11%/8% → 13%/10%) with knockback not fully compensated (100 (base)/45 (scaling) → 96/44), improving its KO potential.}}
**{{buff|Dash attack deals more damage (11% → 13% (clean), 8% → 10% (late)) and launches at lower angles (50°/60° → 45°/55° (clean), 60°/75° → 55°/70° (late)), with knockback not fully compensated (100 base/45 scaling → 96/44 (clean), 100/30 → 98/27 (late)), improving its KO potential.}}
**{{buff|Dash attack deals more shieldstun (1x → 1.5x) which, combined with the increased damage, makes it safer against shielding opponents.}}
**{{buff|It has gained a [[shieldstun]] multiplier of 1., increasing its safety on shield in combination with its higher damage.}}
*[[Forward smash]]:
*[[Forward smash]]:
**{{change|Charizard no longer breathes fire during forward smash's animation.}}
**{{change|Charizard no longer breathes fire during forward smash's animation.}}
**{{buff|Forward smash deals more damage (17% → 19% (clean, late body), 14% → 16.4% (late head)) with knockback scaling not fully compensated (94 → 91 (clean, late body), 86 (late head)). This considerably improves its KO potential.}}
**{{buff|Forward smash deals more damage (17% → 19% (clean, late body), 14% → 16.4% (late head)) with knockback scaling not fully compensated (94 → 91 (clean, late body), 86 (late head)), improving its KO potential.}}
**{{buff|Forward smash grants more [[intangibility]] (frames 22-25 → 20-24).}}
**{{buff|It grants more [[intangibility]] (frames 22-25 → 20-24).}}
*[[Up smash]]:
*[[Up smash]]:
**{{buff|Up smash's second hit comes out more quickly (frame 17 → 14), allowing it to connect better from the first hit and giving the move faster interruptibility (FAF 49 → 47).}}
**{{buff|Up smash's second hit is faster (frame 16 → 14), allowing it to connect better from the first hit. The move's total duration has been reduced as well (FAF 49 → 47).}}
**{{buff|The outermost hitbox on the first hit now uses the 368° [[autolink angle]] instead of weakly [[meteor smash]]ing them in place, allowing it to consistently link into the second hit.}}
**{{buff|The first hit's innermost hitboxes after frame 6 use the 368° [[autolink angle]], while the outermost hitbox uses different angles (280° → 280° (frame 7), 320° (frame 8), 340° (frame 9)) with more set knockback (10 → 32, 42, 60), allowing it to link more consistently into the second hit.}}
**{{nerf|Due to Charizard gaining hurtboxes on its wings, the move is riskier to use as an anti-air option, although to a much lesser extent compared to up tilt.}}
**{{nerf|Due to Charizard once again possessing hurtboxes on its wings, the move is riskier to use as an anti-air option, although to a much lesser extent compared to up tilt.}}
**{{nerf|The first hit's late hit has smaller hitboxes (4.2u/5.5u/5u → 4.2u/5u/4.2u), with the outermost hitbox also being moved inward (X offset: 9u → 7u), reducing its range.}}
**{{change|The first hit's animation has been sped up. This allows it to hit faster behind Charizard, but reduces its duration (frame 6-11 → 6-9).}}
*[[Down smash]]:
*[[Down smash]]:
**{{buff|The knockback scaling and angles on down smash's hitboxes close to Charizard have been homogenized with the tipper hitboxes (KBG: 85 → 79; angle: 46° → 33°). Despite the move's lower knockback scaling, the more horizontal angle improves its KO ability.}}
**{{buff|The knockback scaling and angles on the hitboxes close to Charizard have been homogenized with the outer hitboxes (KBS: 85 → 79; angle: 46° → 33°), increasing its consistency and overall improving its KO ability.}}
**{{change|It no longer has a [[trip]] chance. However, due to the move having been unable to trip opponents regardless, this change is negligible.}}
**{{change|Charizard faces towards the screen instead of downward, and sports an angrier expression.}}


===Aerial attacks===
===Aerial attacks===
*{{buff|All aerials have less landing lag (20 frames → 10 (neutral), 22 → 19 (forward), 24 → 20 (back), 20 → 13 (up), 33 → 21 (down)).}}
*{{buff|All aerials have less landing lag (20 frames → 10 (neutral), 22 → 19 (forward), 24 → 20 (back), 20 → 13 (up), 33 → 21 (down)).}}
*[[Neutral aerial]]:
*[[Neutral aerial]]:
**{{buff|Neutral aerial has faster startup (frame 9 → 8) and significantly less ending lag (FAF 60 → 40), making it safer to use off-stage.}}
**{{buff|Neutral aerial has faster startup (frame 9 → 8) and significantly less ending lag (FAF 60 → 40), making it safer to use offstage.}}
**{{change|Its animation has been sped up. This shortens the duration of its hitboxes (frames 9-25 → 8-20) but allows it to hit faster around Charizard.}}
**{{change|Its animation has been sped up. This shortens the duration of its hitboxes (frames 9-25 → 8-20), but allows it to hit faster around Charizard.}}
***{{nerf|The [[auto-cancel]] window is unchanged, increasing the move's ending lag before it can auto-cancel.}}
***{{nerf|The [[auto-cancel]] window is unchanged, increasing the move's ending lag before it can auto-cancel.}}
*[[Forward aerial]]:
*[[Forward aerial]]:
**{{buff|Forward aerial has less ending lag (FAF 47 → 46).}}
**{{buff|Forward aerial has one frame less ending lag (FAF 47 → 46).}}
**{{nerf|It no longer auto-cancels in a [[short hop]], as Charizard's faster falling speed causes its auto-cancel window to fall short by one frame.}}
**{{nerf|It no longer auto-cancels in a [[short hop]], as Charizard's faster falling speed causes its auto-cancel window to fall short by one frame. In combination with it now having the most landing lag of any forward aerial alongside {{SSBU|Snake}}'s, this considerably hinders its safety and utility for approaching.}}
**{{nerf|The sweetspot has been moved inwards (X offset: 7.5 6), reducing its range.}}
**{{nerf|The sweetspot has been moved inwards (X offset: 7.5u 6u), reducing its range. The middle hitbox is also slightly smaller (4u → 3.8u).}}
*[[Back aerial]]:
*[[Back aerial]]:
**{{buff|Back aerial's animation has been rotated slightly to prevent issues with the z-axis. The last active frame is now directly behind Charizard, increasing the move's vertical range and enabling it to punish opponents from below.}}
**{{buff|Back aerial's animation has been rotated slightly to prevent issues with the z-axis.}}
**{{buff|Due to the [[Sakurai angle]] being lower, DI is less effective when back aerial hits an airborne opponent. This improves its KO potential.}}
**{{nerf|The first active frame has shorter range, and does not contain the 16% sweetspot.}}
**{{nerf|The first active frame does not contain the 16% sweetspot.}}
**{{change|The last active frame is aimed more behind Charizard instead of above it, reducing its vertical range, but allowing it to hit more consistently.}}
*[[Up aerial]]:
**{{buff|Up aerial [[auto-cancel|auto-cancels]] earlier (frame 41 → 38).}}
**{{nerf|The move's initial auto-cancel window has been shortened (frames 1-4 → 1-3)}}
*[[Down aerial]]:
*[[Down aerial]]:
**{{buff|Down aerial's lower landing lag alongside the removal of [[tech]]ing for grounded meteor smashes enable it to function as a potent combo starter onstage. The sweetspot also has a longer duration (frames 18-20 → 18-21).}}
**{{buff|Down aerial's lower landing lag alongside the removal of [[tech]]ing for grounded [[meteor smash]]es enable it to function as a potent combo starter onstage.}}
**{{nerf|The clean hit has received a sourspot on Charizard's body that does not meteor smash, making it slightly harder to use for edgeguarding. The late hit also has a shorter duration (frames 21-26 → 22-25).}}
**{{nerf|It has smaller hitboxes (6u/5u → 5u/5.5u (clean), 4.5u/5.5u (late)) that no longer extend horizontally from Charizard's leg, and the clean hit's inner hitbox is now a sourspot that does not meteor smash (270° → 361°). This reduces the move's range and makes it slightly harder to use for edgeguarding.}}
**{{nerf|It auto-cancels later (frame 41 → 42).}}
**{{nerf|The late hit has a shorter duration (frames 21-26 → 22-25).}}
**{{buff|Its initial auto-cancel window has been lengthened (frames 1-4 → 1-5).}}
**{{change|The move's animation has been lengthened by one frame during startup, leading to several small frame changes:}}
**{{change|Down aerial's animation has been altered.}}
***{{buff|Its initial auto-cancel window has been lengthened (frames 1-4 → 1-5).}}
**{{bugfix|Down aerial's landing animation no longer causes Charizard's tongue to clip through its head.}}
***{{buff|The clean hit has a longer duration (frames 18-20 → 18-21).}}
***{{nerf|Its ending auto-cancel window is active later (frame 41 → 42).}}
**{{change|The stomp has a more pronounced animation.}}
**{{bugfix|The landing animation no longer causes Charizard's tongue to clip through its head.}}


===Throws and other attacks===
===Throws and other attacks===
*[[Grab]]s:
*[[Grab]]s:
**{{buff|Standing grab has been moved forward (Z offset: 5-13.6 → 7.5-16), improving its range.}}
**{{buff|All grabs are active for one more frame (frames 8-9 → 8-10 (standing), 10-11 → 11-13 (dash), 11-12 → 12-14 (pivot)).}}
**{{buff|Dash grab extends further (Z offset: 5-12.3 5-16.5), improving its range.}}
**{{buff|Standing grab has been moved forward (Z offset: 5u-13.6u → 7.5u-16u), while dash grab extends further (Z offset: 5u-12.3u 5u-16.5u), increasing their range.}}
**{{nerf|All grabs have more ending lag (FAF 34 → 40 (standing), 42 → 46 (dash), 40 → 43 (pivot)).}}
**{{nerf|All grabs have more ending lag (FAF 34 → 40 (standing), 42 → 46 (dash), 40 → 43 (pivot)).}}
**{{nerf|Dash and pivot grab have more startup (frame 10 → 11 (dash), 11 → 12 (pivot)).}}
**{{nerf|Dash and pivot grab have more startup (frame 10 → 11 (dash), 11 → 12 (pivot)).}}
**{{nerf|Pivot grab doesn't extend as far (Z offset: 4-17.6 4-17.2), worsening its range.}}
**{{nerf|Pivot grab doesn't extend as far (Z offset: 4u-17.6u 4u-17.2u), reducing its range.}}
**{{change|Standing and dash grab's animations have been altered, with Charizard lunging farther forward, matching their increased range.}}
**{{change|Standing and dash grab's animations have been altered, with Charizard lunging farther forward, matching their increased range.}}
*[[Pummel]]:
*[[Pummel]]:
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**{{nerf|It has much less ending lag (FAF 17 → 8), but deals considerably more hitlag (4 frames → 15), increasing its effective duration.}}
**{{nerf|It has much less ending lag (FAF 17 → 8), but deals considerably more hitlag (4 frames → 15), increasing its effective duration.}}
***{{change|Relative to the rest of the cast, Charizard's pummel is among the slowest but most damaging, rather than average on both accounts.}}
***{{change|Relative to the rest of the cast, Charizard's pummel is among the slowest but most damaging, rather than average on both accounts.}}
*{{change|The speed of Charizard's forward and back throws is no longer weight-dependent.}}
*[[Forward throw]]:
*[[Forward throw]]:
**{{buff|Forward throw deals more knockback (60 base/65 scaling → 63/70).}}
**{{buff|Forward throw deals more knockback (60 base/65 scaling → 63/70), allowing it to KO around 20% earlier.}}
**{{change|Charizard spreads its arms out during the ending animation of forward throw.}}
**{{change|Charizard spreads its arms out more near the end of the animation.}}
*[[Back throw]]:
*[[Back throw]]:
**{{change|Back throw releases opponents faster (frame 29 → 26), though with its interruptibility frames unchanged. This makes it harder to [[DI]], but gives it more ending lag.}}
**{{change|Back throw releases the opponent earlier (frame 29 → 26), though with its total duration unchanged. This makes it harder to DI, but gives it more ending lag.}}
***{{buff|Despite this change, it has increased combo ability due to Charizard's much faster initial dash speed and jumpsquat.}}
***{{buff|Despite this change, it has increased combo ability due to Charizard's much faster initial dash speed and jumpsquat.}}
**{{buff|Due to the [[Sakurai angle]] being lower against aerial opponents in ''Ultimate'' (45° → 38°), it has improved edgeguarding and KO potential.}}
*[[Down throw]]:
*[[Down throw]]:
**{{buff|Down throw deals less [[hitlag]], allowing it to execute faster.}}
**{{buff|Down throw's looping hits no longer inflict hitlag, allowing it to execute much faster, despite releasing the opponent later (frame 52 → 55).}}
**{{change|Down throw's looping hits now deal knockback to bystanders (0 (base)/0 (scaling) → 0/100).}}
**{{buff|The looping hits deal knockback to bystanders (0 base/0 scaling → 0/100), making the move safer in battles with multiple opponents.}}
**{{nerf|It has slightly more ending lag (19 22 frames), hindering its combo potential.}}
**{{nerf|It has more ending lag (FAF 71 77), and no longer inflicts 4 frames of hitlag on the opponent upon releasing them. This hinders its combo potential, with Charizard's faster jumpsquat failing to compensate.}}
***{{nerf|The decreased hitstun in tumble knockback exacerbates this nerf.}}
**{{change|It has an altered animation where Charizard hovers slightly while breathing fire onto the opponent, and lifts itself higher into the air with a more exaggerated breathing animation upon releasing them.}}
**{{change|It has an altered animation where Charizard hovers slightly while breathing fire onto the opponent.}}
*[[Edge attack]]:
*[[Edge attack]]:
**{{buff|Edge attack deals more damage (8% → 10%).}}
**{{buff|Edge attack deals more damage (8% → 10%).}}
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===Special moves===
===Special moves===
*[[Flamethrower]]:
*[[Flamethrower]]:
**{{change|Flamethrower's color is more vibrant compared to in ''Smash 4''.}}
**{{buff|Flamethrower's clean hit lasts longer (3 frames → 4), and it has gained a mid hit, which lasts 3 frames before the late hit and deals more damage (1% → 1.3%). This improves the move's damage racking ability overall.}}
**{{change|The flames have a more vibrant coloration.}}
*[[Flare Blitz]]:
*[[Flare Blitz]]:
**{{buff|Flare Blitz deals drastically more damage (4% → 6% (hit 1), 15% → 18% (hit 2); 19% → 24% (total)).}}
**{{buff|Flare Blitz deals drastically more damage (4% → 6% (hit 1), 15% → 18% (hit 2); 19% total → 24%)), with knockback scaling only minimally compensated (84 → 77), KOing middleweights under 80% from the center of {{SSBU|Final Destination}}.}}
**{{buff|Flare Blitz deals more knockback, KOing middleweights under 80% from the center of {{SSBU|Final Destination}}.}}
**{{buff|Charizard cannot be [[lock]]ed if it gets knocked down by the move's collision; attacks will instead cause it to get up as if hit beyond the lock limit. This leaves it less vulnerable to deadly punishes.}}
**{{buff|The tumble animation following Flare Blitz's collision cannot be jab locked.}}
**{{buff|The first hit uses an [[autolink angle]] (60° → 366°) and set knockback (60 base/80 scaling → 60 base/46 set/78 scaling), allowing it to connect more reliably into the second hit.}}
**{{buff|Grounded Flare Blitz has more range below it, being capable of hitting every character lying on the ground and a few hanging on the ledge.}}
**{{buff|In addition to the hitbox following Charizard's rotation, the first hit has a hitbox that consistently stays on its lower side. This gives the move more range below Charizard, allowing it to hit every character lying on the ground and a few hanging on the ledge.}}
**{{nerf|Flare Blitz is now only able to grab the ledge starting frame 45 (about two-thirds of the way).}}
**{{buff|The first hit has a lower hitlag multiplier (1× → 0.1×), allowing it to transition faster into the second hit.}}
**{{change|Flare Blitz causes Charizard to emit orange flames on startup instead of glowing blue. Its flame effects are much more intense.}}
**{{nerf|The move is only able to grab the ledge starting on frame 45 (about two-thirds of the way).}}
**{{change|Charizard's voice is now louder when using the move, allowing players to hear it without adjusting the [[Sound]] settings.}}
**{{change|It causes Charizard to emit orange flames on startup instead of glowing blue. Its flame effects are also much more intense.}}
**{{change|Charizard's voice is louder when using the move, allowing players to hear it without adjusting the [[Sound]] settings.}}
**{{change|The recoil damage from the second hit of the move is no longer applied all in one go, but is instead applied over the course of a few frames, with it being applied over the next 5 consecutive frames when hitting an opponent, or in intervals of 10 frames when hitting a wall.<ref>In early versions of the game, the 10 frame delay would always be applied, even when hitting an opponent. At an unknown point in the game's update history, this stopped being the case. The mention of the 10 frame delay in the game's parameters, along with no mention of a different delay for when hitting opponent, would imply that this is a glitch</ref>}}
*[[Fly]]:
*[[Fly]]:
**{{bugfix|Fly no longer suffers [[RCO lag]].}}
**{{bugfix|Fly no longer suffers [[RCO lag]].}}
**{{buff|Due to [[rage]] being changed to not affect hitboxes with [[set knockback]], Fly no longer launches opponents away from the rest of the hits when Charizard has rage, allowing it to connect more reliably.}}
**{{buff|The first hit has different angles (70°/95°/80° → 100°/70°/65°) and less set knockback (130/140/140 → 120/80/115), while the looping hits use an autolink angle (72°/90° → 367°). In combination with [[rage]] no longer affecting moves with set knockback, this allows it to connect much more reliably.}}
*[[Pokémon Change]]:
**{{buff|The looping hits's hitboxes are spread around Charizard instead of placed in front of it, while the last hit has one hitbox less, but one of its hitboxes has been moved much farther back. This allows the move to hit behind Charizard and further helps in its linking ability.}}
 
***{{nerf|However, this reduces the looping hits' frontal range.}}
**{{change|Since Charizard has returned to Pokémon Trainer's team, [[Rock Smash]] has been replaced with [[Pokémon Change]].
*[[Down special]]:
***{{buff|}}It can now change places with {{SSBU|Squirtle}} and {{SSBU|Ivysaur}} to adapt to certain situations.}}
**{{change|Since Charizard has returned to Pokémon Trainer's team, [[Rock Smash]] has been replaced with [[Pokémon Change]].}}
***{{nerf|The removal of Rock Smash reduces Charizard's own defensive capabilities, hinders it's landing options and eliminates one of its finishers.}}
***{{buff|This allows it to change places with {{SSBU|Squirtle}} and {{SSBU|Ivysaur}} to adapt to difficult situations and matchups.}}
**{{buff|Pokémon Change is much faster, as it does not need to load the next Pokémon during every switch. The quicker switch time allows it to potentially combo into another Pokémon's moves, work akin to an [[air dodge]], or supplement the Pokémon's recovery.}}
***{{nerf|The removal of Rock Smash reduces Charizard's own defensive capabilities, hinders its landing options and eliminates one of its finishers.}}
**{{buff|Pokémon Change can now be used in the air. Like in ''Brawl'', it also offers brief intangibility upon switching out.}}
**{{buff|Pokémon Change executes much faster, and no longer requires the game to load the next Pokémon with every switch. This significantly increases its safety, and allows it to potentially string into another Pokémon's moves.}}
**{{nerf|Pokémon Change now has a cooldown of 140 frames (2.33 seconds), which can be skipped via a special move or a taunt.}}
**{{buff|It can now be used in the air. This allows the player to mix up their recovery between different Pokémon, and to utilize its intangibility frames as an alternative air dodge, with the notable advantage of coming out on frame 1. As a result, it poses much less of a risk than in ''Brawl'' as a defensive option.}}
**{{nerf|It has a cooldown of around two seconds after the Pokémon switch is executed. However, it can be skipped by using another special move.}}
**{{nerf|It no longer resets [[stale-move negation]], effectively weakening Squirtle when Charizard switches.}}
**{{nerf|It can no longer [[Pokémon Change#Zero Switching|skip the ending lag of the switch]] if performed near the edge of a moving platform.}}
*[[Final Smash]]:
*[[Final Smash]]:
**{{change|[[Triple Finish]] replaces [[Mega Charizard X]] with the return of {{SSBU|Pokémon Trainer}}.}}
**{{change|[[Triple Finish]] replaces [[Mega Charizard X]] with the return of {{SSBU|Pokémon Trainer}}.}}
**{{change|Triple Finish has an updated animation, and its textbox closely resembles the textboxes in the {{s|bulbapedia|Generation VII}} ''Pokémon'' games.}}
**{{nerf|Charizard fires five Fire Blasts in a row instead of six, and the move deals less total damage (58% → 44.3%).}}
**{{nerf|Charizard now fires five Fire Blasts in a row instead of six.}}
**{{change|It has a different text box, more closely resembling its appearance in the {{s|bulbapedia|Generation VII}} games.}}
**{{bugfix|The [[undead glitch]] on the [[Stamina Mode]], and results screen glitch on [[Time|timed]] [[team battle]]s have been removed.}}
**{{bugfix|The [[undead glitch]] on the [[Stamina Mode]], and results screen glitch on [[time]]d [[team battle]]s have been removed.}}

Latest revision as of 15:19, January 5, 2024

Aesthetics

  • Change Charizard's model features a more subdued color scheme, more closely resembling its appearance in recent mainline Pokémon games. Its legs and arms are more defined, and the flame on its tail is more vibrant.
  • Change During normal matches, Charizard uses the Pokémon Trainer's stock icon, name call, and Boxing Ring title instead of having its own. However, it still has its own stock icon used in numerous situations, such as the Spirits mode, as a Classic Mode opponent, and during Mr. Game & Watch's down throw.
  • Change Charizard moves in a wave-like motion during its dash animation, similar to Lugia on the title screen for Pokémon SoulSilver. [1]
  • Change Charizard now hangs onto the ledge with one hand instead of two.
  • Change Charizard has two new taunts: one where it stands upright for its up taunt (similar to Ridley's down taunt), and another where it does a quick aerial flip and roars during its side taunt. Its former up taunt is now its down taunt.
  • Change While maintaining its Flare Blitz victory pose from Smash 4, Charizard regains its victory pose from Brawl where the Pokémon Trainer pets its neck, replacing the roaring victory pose from Smash 4.

Attributes

  • Change Charizard is once again part of Pokémon Trainer, allowing it to switch to Squirtle and Ivysaur.
  • Buff Like all characters, Charizard's jumpsquat animation lasts 3 frames (down from 7).
  • Nerf Charizard walks slightly slower (1.2 → 1.187).
  • Buff Charizard runs faster (2 → 2.2).
    • Buff Its initial dash speed is significantly faster (1 → 2.28), going from the slowest in the game to the 5th fastest.
  • Buff Charizard's air speed is much higher (0.92 → 1.103).
  • Buff Charizard has significantly higher traction (0.04 → 0.11), no longer being tied with Mewtwo for having the second lowest traction in the game. This allows it to punish opponents out of shield much more easily.
  • Buff Charizard moves its head closer to itself during forward aerial, standing grab, and when hanging on the ledge, leaving it less vulnerable to attacks.
  • Change Charizard's midair jumps' animations have been changed to be more distinguishable from each other.
  • Change Charizard's falling speed and fast falling speed are much faster (1.4 → 1.52) and (2.24 → 2.432) respectively. This makes it more prone to combos, but improves its tomahawk and overall neutral game.
  • Nerf Charizard once again possesses hurtboxes on its wings like in Brawl, making it easier to hit from above.
  • Nerf Charizard takes small amounts of damage while swimming. It shares this attribute with Sonic, Inkling, and Incineroar.
  • Nerf Forward roll grants less intangibility (frames 4-18 → 4-16).
  • Nerf Back roll has more startup with less intangibility (frames 4-18 → 5-17), and more ending lag (FAF 33 → 38).
  • Nerf Spot dodge has more ending lag (FAF 28 → 29).
  • Buff Air dodge grants more intangibility (frames 3-28 → 3-30).
  • Nerf Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 34 → 50).
  • Change Air dodge's animation has been altered.

Ground attacks

  • Neutral attack:
    • Buff The first hit transitions into the second hit faster (frame 10 → 7), which transitions into the third hit faster (frame 10 → 8), allowing the whole combo to connect more smoothly.
    • Nerf All hits have smaller hitboxes, with the third hit having one of them removed (4.5u/4u/3u → 2.4u/2.4u/2.6u (hit 1), 2.8u/2.8u/3.2u (hit 2), 6.5u/5.5u/5u/4u → 5u/4u/4u (hit 3)), reducing the attack range.
    • Nerf All hits have a higher hitlag multiplier (1× → 1.4× (hit 1), 1.2× (hit 2), 1.6× (hit 3)), giving opponents more time to SDI each hit and DI the last hit.
    • Nerf The first and second hits deal less damage (3% → 2.5% (hit 1), 4% → 2.5% (hit 2)).
    • Nerf The first hit no longer deals set knockback (26/22 set/100 scaling → 20/20/24/20 base/30/28/25/25 scaling), causing it to connect less reliably into the next hits at very high percents.
    • Nerf The third hit has a shorter hitbox duration (frames 7-9 → 7-8).
    • Change The first and second hits have altered angles to keep opponents close to Charizard (120°/361° → 361°/180° (hit 1), 80°/55°/30° → 361° (hit 2)) like other neutral attacks, and have gained a hitstun modifier of 2, with the second hit also dealing less knockback (25/40 base/50 scaling → 20 base/30/28/25 scaling). This allows them to connect and jab lock more consistently, but removes their jab cancel setups against grounded opponents.
    • Change The third hit launches at a consistent angle (70°/60°/50°/45° → 60°).
    • Change Charizard rears back in a more pronounced fashion during the ending lag of the third hit.
  • Forward tilt:
    • Buff Forward tilt has a new sweetspot hitbox on frame 12 that is centered in front of Charizard's tail, with the original sweetspot remaining intact. This makes the sweetspot larger and prohibits issues with the z-axis.
    • Buff It has less ending lag (FAF 43 → 38).
    • Buff The sweetspot deals more knockback (40 base/100 scaling → 45/104).
    • Nerf It has more startup with a shorter hitbox duration (frames 11-13 → 12-13).
  • Up tilt:
    • Change Up tilt has an altered animation, with Charizard jumping higher and its wings spreading out more to its sides.
    • Buff In addition to the hitbox above Charizard, it possesses new hitboxes covering its wings as they spread out. This increases the move's lateral range above Charizard, although due to the high placements of these hitboxes, it still cannot effectively hit grounded opponents at its sides.
    • Nerf It has a shorter hitbox duration (frames 9-13 → 9-12).
    • Nerf It launches opponents slightly away from Charizard instead of towards it (96° → 78°/84°), and deals much less knockback (40 base/130 scaling → 50 base/80/85 scaling). This collectively worsens both the move's combo and KO potential, stringing into itself less reliably at low percents, and still having too much ending lag to combo into other moves, despite Charizard's faster jumpsquat, while it is now unable to KO grounded opponents below 200% (compared to KOing below 140% under the same circumstances in Smash 4).
    • Nerf Due to Charizard once again possessing hurtboxes on its wings, the move is riskier to use as an anti-air option, as these hurtboxes now extend upward especially during the active frames, leaving Charizard more vulnerable to trades with aerial attacks.
    • Change The body hitbox uses a normal effect with punch SFX, instead of slash ones.
  • Down tilt:
    • Buff The changes to jostle mechanics allow down tilt to connect more consistently against opponents right next to Charizard.
    • Nerf The hitbox does not extend as far (Z offset: 7u-16u → 7u-13.5u), considerably reducing its range.
    • Change It no longer has a point-blank windbox to push opponents into the hitboxes; however, this is made negligible by the jostle changes.
    • Change The headbutt has a more pronounced animation.
  • Dash attack:
    • Buff Dash attack deals more damage (11% → 13% (clean), 8% → 10% (late)) and launches at lower angles (50°/60° → 45°/55° (clean), 60°/75° → 55°/70° (late)), with knockback not fully compensated (100 base/45 scaling → 96/44 (clean), 100/30 → 98/27 (late)), improving its KO potential.
    • Buff It has gained a shieldstun multiplier of 1.5×, increasing its safety on shield in combination with its higher damage.
  • Forward smash:
    • Change Charizard no longer breathes fire during forward smash's animation.
    • Buff Forward smash deals more damage (17% → 19% (clean, late body), 14% → 16.4% (late head)) with knockback scaling not fully compensated (94 → 91 (clean, late body), 86 (late head)), improving its KO potential.
    • Buff It grants more intangibility (frames 22-25 → 20-24).
  • Up smash:
    • Buff Up smash's second hit is faster (frame 16 → 14), allowing it to connect better from the first hit. The move's total duration has been reduced as well (FAF 49 → 47).
    • Buff The first hit's innermost hitboxes after frame 6 use the 368° autolink angle, while the outermost hitbox uses different angles (280° → 280° (frame 7), 320° (frame 8), 340° (frame 9)) with more set knockback (10 → 32, 42, 60), allowing it to link more consistently into the second hit.
    • Nerf Due to Charizard once again possessing hurtboxes on its wings, the move is riskier to use as an anti-air option, although to a much lesser extent compared to up tilt.
    • Nerf The first hit's late hit has smaller hitboxes (4.2u/5.5u/5u → 4.2u/5u/4.2u), with the outermost hitbox also being moved inward (X offset: 9u → 7u), reducing its range.
    • Change The first hit's animation has been sped up. This allows it to hit faster behind Charizard, but reduces its duration (frame 6-11 → 6-9).
  • Down smash:
    • Buff The knockback scaling and angles on the hitboxes close to Charizard have been homogenized with the outer hitboxes (KBS: 85 → 79; angle: 46° → 33°), increasing its consistency and overall improving its KO ability.
    • Change It no longer has a trip chance. However, due to the move having been unable to trip opponents regardless, this change is negligible.
    • Change Charizard faces towards the screen instead of downward, and sports an angrier expression.

Aerial attacks

  • Buff All aerials have less landing lag (20 frames → 10 (neutral), 22 → 19 (forward), 24 → 20 (back), 20 → 13 (up), 33 → 21 (down)).
  • Neutral aerial:
    • Buff Neutral aerial has faster startup (frame 9 → 8) and significantly less ending lag (FAF 60 → 40), making it safer to use offstage.
    • Change Its animation has been sped up. This shortens the duration of its hitboxes (frames 9-25 → 8-20), but allows it to hit faster around Charizard.
      • Nerf The auto-cancel window is unchanged, increasing the move's ending lag before it can auto-cancel.
  • Forward aerial:
    • Buff Forward aerial has one frame less ending lag (FAF 47 → 46).
    • Nerf It no longer auto-cancels in a short hop, as Charizard's faster falling speed causes its auto-cancel window to fall short by one frame. In combination with it now having the most landing lag of any forward aerial alongside Snake's, this considerably hinders its safety and utility for approaching.
    • Nerf The sweetspot has been moved inwards (X offset: 7.5u → 6u), reducing its range. The middle hitbox is also slightly smaller (4u → 3.8u).
  • Back aerial:
    • Buff Back aerial's animation has been rotated slightly to prevent issues with the z-axis.
    • Nerf The first active frame has shorter range, and does not contain the 16% sweetspot.
    • Change The last active frame is aimed more behind Charizard instead of above it, reducing its vertical range, but allowing it to hit more consistently.
  • Down aerial:
    • Buff Down aerial's lower landing lag alongside the removal of teching for grounded meteor smashes enable it to function as a potent combo starter onstage.
    • Nerf It has smaller hitboxes (6u/5u → 5u/5.5u (clean), 4.5u/5.5u (late)) that no longer extend horizontally from Charizard's leg, and the clean hit's inner hitbox is now a sourspot that does not meteor smash (270° → 361°). This reduces the move's range and makes it slightly harder to use for edgeguarding.
    • Nerf The late hit has a shorter duration (frames 21-26 → 22-25).
    • Change The move's animation has been lengthened by one frame during startup, leading to several small frame changes:
      • Buff Its initial auto-cancel window has been lengthened (frames 1-4 → 1-5).
      • Buff The clean hit has a longer duration (frames 18-20 → 18-21).
      • Nerf Its ending auto-cancel window is active later (frame 41 → 42).
    • Change The stomp has a more pronounced animation.
    • Bug fix The landing animation no longer causes Charizard's tongue to clip through its head.

Throws and other attacks

  • Grabs:
    • Buff All grabs are active for one more frame (frames 8-9 → 8-10 (standing), 10-11 → 11-13 (dash), 11-12 → 12-14 (pivot)).
    • Buff Standing grab has been moved forward (Z offset: 5u-13.6u → 7.5u-16u), while dash grab extends further (Z offset: 5u-12.3u → 5u-16.5u), increasing their range.
    • Nerf All grabs have more ending lag (FAF 34 → 40 (standing), 42 → 46 (dash), 40 → 43 (pivot)).
    • Nerf Dash and pivot grab have more startup (frame 10 → 11 (dash), 11 → 12 (pivot)).
    • Nerf Pivot grab doesn't extend as far (Z offset: 4u-17.6u → 4u-17.2u), reducing its range.
    • Change Standing and dash grab's animations have been altered, with Charizard lunging farther forward, matching their increased range.
  • Pummel:
    • Nerf Pummel deals less damage (2% → 1.6%).
    • Nerf It has much less ending lag (FAF 17 → 8), but deals considerably more hitlag (4 frames → 15), increasing its effective duration.
      • Change Relative to the rest of the cast, Charizard's pummel is among the slowest but most damaging, rather than average on both accounts.
  • Change The speed of Charizard's forward and back throws is no longer weight-dependent.
  • Forward throw:
    • Buff Forward throw deals more knockback (60 base/65 scaling → 63/70), allowing it to KO around 20% earlier.
    • Change Charizard spreads its arms out more near the end of the animation.
  • Back throw:
    • Change Back throw releases the opponent earlier (frame 29 → 26), though with its total duration unchanged. This makes it harder to DI, but gives it more ending lag.
      • Buff Despite this change, it has increased combo ability due to Charizard's much faster initial dash speed and jumpsquat.
    • Buff Due to the Sakurai angle being lower against aerial opponents in Ultimate (45° → 38°), it has improved edgeguarding and KO potential.
  • Down throw:
    • Buff Down throw's looping hits no longer inflict hitlag, allowing it to execute much faster, despite releasing the opponent later (frame 52 → 55).
    • Buff The looping hits deal knockback to bystanders (0 base/0 scaling → 0/100), making the move safer in battles with multiple opponents.
    • Nerf It has more ending lag (FAF 71 → 77), and no longer inflicts 4 frames of hitlag on the opponent upon releasing them. This hinders its combo potential, with Charizard's faster jumpsquat failing to compensate.
    • Change It has an altered animation where Charizard hovers slightly while breathing fire onto the opponent, and lifts itself higher into the air with a more exaggerated breathing animation upon releasing them.
  • Edge attack:
    • Buff Edge attack deals more damage (8% → 10%).

Special moves

  • Flamethrower:
    • Buff Flamethrower's clean hit lasts longer (3 frames → 4), and it has gained a mid hit, which lasts 3 frames before the late hit and deals more damage (1% → 1.3%). This improves the move's damage racking ability overall.
    • Change The flames have a more vibrant coloration.
  • Flare Blitz:
    • Buff Flare Blitz deals drastically more damage (4% → 6% (hit 1), 15% → 18% (hit 2); 19% total → 24%)), with knockback scaling only minimally compensated (84 → 77), KOing middleweights under 80% from the center of Final Destination.
    • Buff Charizard cannot be locked if it gets knocked down by the move's collision; attacks will instead cause it to get up as if hit beyond the lock limit. This leaves it less vulnerable to deadly punishes.
    • Buff The first hit uses an autolink angle (60° → 366°) and set knockback (60 base/80 scaling → 60 base/46 set/78 scaling), allowing it to connect more reliably into the second hit.
    • Buff In addition to the hitbox following Charizard's rotation, the first hit has a hitbox that consistently stays on its lower side. This gives the move more range below Charizard, allowing it to hit every character lying on the ground and a few hanging on the ledge.
    • Buff The first hit has a lower hitlag multiplier (1× → 0.1×), allowing it to transition faster into the second hit.
    • Nerf The move is only able to grab the ledge starting on frame 45 (about two-thirds of the way).
    • Change It causes Charizard to emit orange flames on startup instead of glowing blue. Its flame effects are also much more intense.
    • Change Charizard's voice is louder when using the move, allowing players to hear it without adjusting the Sound settings.
    • Change The recoil damage from the second hit of the move is no longer applied all in one go, but is instead applied over the course of a few frames, with it being applied over the next 5 consecutive frames when hitting an opponent, or in intervals of 10 frames when hitting a wall.[1]
  • Fly:
    • Bug fix Fly no longer suffers RCO lag.
    • Buff The first hit has different angles (70°/95°/80° → 100°/70°/65°) and less set knockback (130/140/140 → 120/80/115), while the looping hits use an autolink angle (72°/90° → 367°). In combination with rage no longer affecting moves with set knockback, this allows it to connect much more reliably.
    • Buff The looping hits's hitboxes are spread around Charizard instead of placed in front of it, while the last hit has one hitbox less, but one of its hitboxes has been moved much farther back. This allows the move to hit behind Charizard and further helps in its linking ability.
      • Nerf However, this reduces the looping hits' frontal range.
  • Down special:
    • Change Since Charizard has returned to Pokémon Trainer's team, Rock Smash has been replaced with Pokémon Change.
      • Buff This allows it to change places with Squirtle and Ivysaur to adapt to difficult situations and matchups.
      • Nerf The removal of Rock Smash reduces Charizard's own defensive capabilities, hinders its landing options and eliminates one of its finishers.
    • Buff Pokémon Change executes much faster, and no longer requires the game to load the next Pokémon with every switch. This significantly increases its safety, and allows it to potentially string into another Pokémon's moves.
    • Buff It can now be used in the air. This allows the player to mix up their recovery between different Pokémon, and to utilize its intangibility frames as an alternative air dodge, with the notable advantage of coming out on frame 1. As a result, it poses much less of a risk than in Brawl as a defensive option.
    • Nerf It has a cooldown of around two seconds after the Pokémon switch is executed. However, it can be skipped by using another special move.
    • Nerf It no longer resets stale-move negation, effectively weakening Squirtle when Charizard switches.
    • Nerf It can no longer skip the ending lag of the switch if performed near the edge of a moving platform.
  • Final Smash:
  1. ^ In early versions of the game, the 10 frame delay would always be applied, even when hitting an opponent. At an unknown point in the game's update history, this stopped being the case. The mention of the 10 frame delay in the game's parameters, along with no mention of a different delay for when hitting opponent, would imply that this is a glitch