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(→‎List of characters with stance mirroring: It's late, too lazy to make the table, but at least the info is here)
(Cleanup, re-wording, smashing all fighters together in one comprehensive table. Why have an entire separate section for fighters without mirroring? Someone will probably want to look over all the changes I've made here as I'm not well educated on this subject (and I don't own 3DS / Wii U haha))
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[[File:SSB4 - Mirror Pose 01.jpg|thumb|275px|{{SSB4|Mario}} and {{SSB4|Greninja}}'s mirrored stances in {{forwiiu}}.]]
[[File:SSB4 - Mirror Pose 01.jpg|thumb|275px|{{SSB4|Mario}} and {{SSB4|Greninja}}'s mirrored stances in {{forwiiu}}.]]
'''Stance mirroring''' is a mechanic in which most or all of a character's animations (including [[attack]]s) are mirrored if they turn around, mimicking the sprite mirroring of classic fighting games. The purpose of the mechanic is so characters face the screen more often. When mirrored, all hitboxes are also mirrored - for example, when Mario throws a punch when mirrored, the hitbox will appear on the opposite arm than it is normally defined as being attached to.
'''Stance mirroring''' is a mechanic in which most or all of a character's animations and moves are mirrored if they turn around, mimicking the sprite mirroring of older fighting games. This mechanic results in the characters' front side being visible more often. When mirrored, all hitboxes are also mirrored - for example, a punch that is animated with a character's right arm, when mirrored, will instead use the character's right arm.


In general, a character must have a symmetrical body and not wield a weapon in order to be eligible for stance mirroring, though the weapon restriction was relaxed for many characters in ''Ultimate'' if they don't wield it at all times (e.g. Villager's various tools). Minor differences such as Pikachu's tail and K. Rool's eye tic can be acceptable, depending on their exact animations and hurtboxes. In general, characters in ''Ultimate'' are animated more with stance mirroring in mind compared to ''SSB4''.
In general, a character must have a symmetrical body shape and not wield a weapon in order to be eligible for stance mirroring, though in ''[[Ultimate]]'' characters who put away weapons when not in use (e.g. [[Villager]]'s various tools) are generally not affected by this rule. Minor minor asymmetry such as [[Pikachu]]'s tail and [[King K. Rool]]'s eye tic can be acceptable, depending on their exact animations and hurtboxes. Compared to ''[[Smash 4]]'', characters with stance mirroring in ''Ultimate'' are generally animated in a way that better accommodates the feature.


Stance mirroring also affects which hand characters use to hold, swing, and throw [[item]]s. Turning around will cause a held item to simply teleport to the other hand (there is no animation for it). Similarly, if a character is [[reverse]]d by Mario's [[Cape]] or such, they will complete their rotation before they snap into their mirrored pose.
Stance mirroring also affects which hand characters use to hold, swing, and throw [[item]]s. Turning around will cause a held item to simply teleport to the other hand (there is no animation for it). A fighter with stance mirroring that is [[reverse]]d (for example, by Mario's [[Cape]]) can be seen in a non-mirrored position until they move around or perform an [[attack]].


As some characters mirror while others do not, it is possible for interactions to differ based on whether the characters are facing each other left-to-right versus right-to-left. For example, a mirroring character's thin attack may hit a Marth's extended sword arm from one direction, but not the other.
As some characters mirror while others do not, it is possible for interactions to differ based on whether the characters are facing each other left-to-right versus right-to-left. For example, a mirroring character's thin attack may hit [[Marth]]'s extended sword arm from one direction, but not the other, as the different directions may change how far his arm extends into the [[Z-axis]].


Stance mirroring is not present in games before ''SSB4'', though certain [[special move]]s and [[taunt]]s in ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'' would choose between two different animations based on facing direction to mimic the effect.
Stance mirroring is not present in games before ''Smash 4'', though certain [[special move]]s and [[taunt]]s in ''[[Melee]]'' and ''[[Brawl]]'' have two different animations for each direction to accomplish a similar effect.


With the exceptions of Marth, Roy, Young Link, Toon Link, Pit, Lucina, Robin, Dark Pit, Chrom, Simon, Richter, and Sephiroth, as well as Link before ''Ultimate'', all characters listed have their bodies face the screen when facing right.
With the exceptions of Marth, [[Roy]], [[Young Link]], [[Toon Link]], [[Pit]], [[Lucina]], [[Robin]], [[Dark Pit]], [[Chrom]], [[Simon]], [[Richter]], and [[Sephiroth]], as well as [[Link]] before ''Ultimate'', all characters without stance mirroring face the screen when facing right.


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{{incomplete|needs description of how the mirrored Kirby interacts with copied moves from non-mirrored characters}}


==List of characters with stance mirroring==
==Support for stance mirroring==
{|class="wikitable sortable"
{|class="wikitable sortable"
!Character!!{{GameIcon|SSB4|20px}}!!{{GameIcon|SSBU|20px}}
!Character!!{{GameIcon|SSB4|20px}}!!{{GameIcon|SSBU|20px}}
|-
|-
|Banjo & Kazooie||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Banjo]] & [[Kazooie]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Bowser||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Bayonetta]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Bowser Jr.||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Bowser]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Charizard||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Bowser Jr.]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Daisy||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Byleth]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Diddy Kong||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Captain Falcon]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Donkey Kong||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Charizard]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Dr. Mario||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Chrom]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Duck Hunt||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Cloud]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Greninja||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Corrin]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Ice Climbers||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Daisy]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Incineroar||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Dark Pit]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Isabelle||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Dark Samus]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Ivysaur||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Diddy Kong]]||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Jigglypuff||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Donkey Kong]]||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|King K. Rool||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Dr. Mario]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Ken||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Duck Hunt]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Kirby||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Falco]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Lucas||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Fox]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Luigi||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Ganondorf]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Mario||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Greninja]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Mega Man||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Ice Climbers]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Mewtwo||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Ike]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Mii Brawler||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Incineroar]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Ness||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Inkling]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Pac-Man||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Isabelle]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Peach||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Ivysaur]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Pichu||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Jigglypuff]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Pikachu||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Joker]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Piranha Plant||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Kazuya]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|R.O.B.||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Ken]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Ridley||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[King Dedede]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Ryu||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[King K. Rool]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Sonic||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Kirby]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Squirtle||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Link]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Steve||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Little Mac]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Terry||—||{{y|20px}}
|[[Lucario]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Villager||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Lucas]]||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Wario||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Lucina]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|-
|Yoshi||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Luigi]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|-
|Zelda||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|[[Mario]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Mega Man]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Meta Knight]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Mewtwo]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Mii Brawler]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Mii Gunner]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Mii Swordfighter]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Min Min]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Mr. Game & Watch]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Mythra]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Ness]]||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Olimar]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Pac-Man]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Palutena]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Peach]]||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Pichu]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Pikachu]]||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Piranha Plant]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Pit]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Pyra]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[R.O.B.]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Richter]]||—||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Ridley]]||—||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Robin]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Rosalina]] & [[Luma]]<ref>Luma has stance mirroring.</ref>||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Roy]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Ryu]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Samus]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Sephiroth]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Sheik]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Shulk]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Simon]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Snake]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Sonic]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Squirtle]]||&mdash;||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Steve]]||&mdash;||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Terry]]||&mdash;||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Toon Link]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Villager]]||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Wario]]||{{y|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Wii Fit Trainer]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Wolf]]||&mdash;||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Yoshi]]||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Young Link]]||&mdash;||{{n|20px}}
|-
|[[Zelda]]||{{n|20px}}||{{y|20px}}
|-
|[[Zero Suit Samus]]||{{n|20px}}||{{n|20px}}
|}
|}
 
===Notes===
==List of characters without stance mirroring==
<references/>
 
*[[Peach]] (''SSB4'' only)
*[[Rosalina]] & [[Luma]] (''SSB4'' only for Luma)
*[[Donkey Kong]] (''SSB4'' only)
*[[Diddy Kong]] (''SSB4'' only)
*[[Link]]
*[[Zelda]] (''SSB4'' only)
*[[Sheik]]
*[[Young Link]]
*[[Ganondorf]]
*[[Toon Link]]
*[[Samus]]
*[[Zero Suit Samus]]
*[[Dark Samus]]
*[[Yoshi]] (''SSB4'' only)
*[[Meta Knight]]
*[[King Dedede]]
*[[Fox]]
*[[Falco]]
*[[Wolf]]
*[[Pikachu]] (''SSB4'' only)
*[[Lucario]]
*[[Ness]] (''SSB4'' only)
*[[Lucas]] (''SSB4'' only)
*[[Captain Falcon]]
*[[Marth]]
*[[Roy]]
*[[Ike]]
*[[Lucina]]
*[[Robin]]
*[[Corrin]]
*[[Chrom]]
*[[Byleth]]
*[[Mr. Game & Watch]]
*[[Pit]]
*[[Palutena]]
*[[Dark Pit]]
*[[Cloud]]
*[[Sephiroth]]
*[[Snake]]
*[[Olimar]]
*[[Villager]] (''SSB4'' only)
*[[Wii Fit Trainer]]
*[[Little Mac]]
*[[Mii Swordfighter]]
*[[Mii Gunner]]
*[[Shulk]]
*[[Pyra]]
*[[Mythra]]
*[[Bayonetta]]
*[[Inkling]]
*[[Simon]]
*[[Richter]]
*[[Joker]]
*[[Hero]]
*[[Min Min]]
*[[Kazuya]]


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Mario and Greninja's mirrored stances in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U.

Stance mirroring is a mechanic in which most or all of a character's animations and moves are mirrored if they turn around, mimicking the sprite mirroring of older fighting games. This mechanic results in the characters' front side being visible more often. When mirrored, all hitboxes are also mirrored - for example, a punch that is animated with a character's right arm, when mirrored, will instead use the character's right arm.

In general, a character must have a symmetrical body shape and not wield a weapon in order to be eligible for stance mirroring, though in Ultimate characters who put away weapons when not in use (e.g. Villager's various tools) are generally not affected by this rule. Minor minor asymmetry such as Pikachu's tail and King K. Rool's eye tic can be acceptable, depending on their exact animations and hurtboxes. Compared to Smash 4, characters with stance mirroring in Ultimate are generally animated in a way that better accommodates the feature.

Stance mirroring also affects which hand characters use to hold, swing, and throw items. Turning around will cause a held item to simply teleport to the other hand (there is no animation for it). A fighter with stance mirroring that is reversed (for example, by Mario's Cape) can be seen in a non-mirrored position until they move around or perform an attack.

As some characters mirror while others do not, it is possible for interactions to differ based on whether the characters are facing each other left-to-right versus right-to-left. For example, a mirroring character's thin attack may hit Marth's extended sword arm from one direction, but not the other, as the different directions may change how far his arm extends into the Z-axis.

Stance mirroring is not present in games before Smash 4, though certain special moves and taunts in Melee and Brawl have two different animations for each direction to accomplish a similar effect.

With the exceptions of Marth, Roy, Young Link, Toon Link, Pit, Lucina, Robin, Dark Pit, Chrom, Simon, Richter, and Sephiroth, as well as Link before Ultimate, all characters without stance mirroring face the screen when facing right.


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Support for stance mirroring

Character Super Smash Bros. 4 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Banjo & Kazooie Yes
Bayonetta No
Bowser Yes Yes
Bowser Jr. Yes Yes
Byleth No
Captain Falcon No No
Charizard Yes Yes
Chrom No
Cloud No No
Corrin No No
Daisy Yes
Dark Pit No
Dark Samus No
Diddy Kong No Yes
Donkey Kong No Yes
Dr. Mario Yes Yes
Duck Hunt Yes Yes
Falco No No
Fox No No
Ganondorf No No
Greninja Yes Yes
Ice Climbers Yes
Ike No No
Incineroar Yes
Inkling Yes
Isabelle Yes
Ivysaur Yes
Jigglypuff Yes Yes
Joker No
Kazuya No
Ken Yes
King Dedede No No
King K. Rool Yes
Kirby Yes Yes
Link No No
Little Mac No No
Lucario No No
Lucas No Yes
Lucina No No
Luigi Yes Yes
Mario Yes Yes
Mega Man Yes Yes
Meta Knight No No
Mewtwo Yes Yes
Mii Brawler Yes Yes
Mii Gunner No No
Mii Swordfighter No No
Min Min No
Mr. Game & Watch Yes Yes
Mythra No
Ness No Yes
Olimar No No
Pac-Man Yes Yes
Palutena No No
Peach No Yes
Pichu Yes
Pikachu No Yes
Piranha Plant Yes
Pit No No
Pyra No
R.O.B. Yes Yes
Richter No
Ridley Yes
Robin No No
Rosalina & Luma[1] No No
Roy No No
Ryu Yes Yes
Samus No No
Sephiroth No No
Sheik No No
Shulk No No
Simon No No
Snake No No
Sonic Yes Yes
Squirtle Yes
Steve Yes
Terry Yes
Toon Link No No
Villager No Yes
Wario Yes Yes
Wii Fit Trainer No No
Wolf No
Yoshi No Yes
Young Link No
Zelda No Yes
Zero Suit Samus No No

Notes

  1. ^ Luma has stance mirroring.