User:TheNuttyOne/Smash 5 Prediction!
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Well, we know the entire roster for Smash 4, so predictions for that are pointless- and it's never too early, right? :P
You can make edits to your prediction until the first Smash 5 character is confirmed (which may be a very long time, obviously). This should help pass the time though!
You can mostly use anything- a table, an image, or even just a dotted list. If you choose to use an image, make it a clear image so that it's easy to tell which character is which, and also include the names of each character somewhere on the roster.
Make a header with your username when you add your prediction, and... well, have fun! :P
Rules
- There can be no more than 80 characters on your roster.
- If you wish to bring back transformations, they only count as one character.
- Characters must be featured mainly in video games. This does not mean video games based off of TV or movies, rather TV or movies based off of video games. (So Ash Ketchum would be acceptable, but Mickey Mouse would not.)
- No more than 10 veterans may be cut.
- Mewtwo, Ice Climbers, Lucas, Wolf, Roy, etc. do not count against this.
- Be creative and have fun!
Scoring System
- Correct Newcomer Prediction - 10 points. A correct newcomer prediction is when a newcomer on your prediction roster is confirmed to be in the game. Pretty straightforward.
- Correct Veteran Prediction - 5 points. Like the above, but with veterans. Since it's pretty easy to predict this (I'm pretty sure Mario will return), it doesn't have as high a score as a correct newcomer prediction.
- Semi-Correct Prediction - 3 points. This is when you predict a transformation character or a team character, but only one of them appear. (i.e. you predict Zelda/Sheik, but only Sheik is confirmed). You get the three points for each character (meaning if you predict Pokemon Trainer with Greninja, Chespin, and Braixen and they all appear separately, you get 9 points.) However, there is no penalty if only part of the character is confirmed (only Greninja appears, not Chespin and Braixen), you just only get 3 points. This same rule applies to if you predict two characters separately but they are confirmed as transformations or a team, even if you only guessed one of the characters. If you predict a team character and only one of them appears with the other as a costume (like Popo with Nana as a costume instead of Popo & Nana as the Ice Climbers), you do not get 6 points, only 3. If you guess a character as a costume but they are confirmed as a separate character (i.e. Daisy as a Peach costume), you do not get any bonus points and are charged with a missing prediction.
- Incorrect Prediction - Minus 5 points. This is when a character on your roster is confirmed to not be in the game. Like how Chrom was highly speculated in Smash 4 but was confirmed to not be playable in the Lucina/Robin reveal trailer. Or how Ashley was confirmed to be an Assist Trophy. Those characters would have gotten you 5 points removed.
- Missing Prediction - Minus 3 points. This is when a character is confirmed that wasn't on your roster (like how no one could've guessed Wii Fit Trainer (yet oddly everyone predicted Duck Hunt)). Since Sakurai often picks characters no one expected (Ice Climbers, R.O.B., WFT), it's reasonable for this to be slightly less of a deduction than the incorrect prediction.
When SSB5 is released and all of the characters are confirmed, everyone's score will be added up and the winner will win... um, something. I'll decide that later. And if I win... well, I can't really give myself a prize, so that just means everyone loses I guess. Sigh.
Note that this competition is only for characters. Predictions on stages, alternate costumes, items, etc. are not considered part of the official competition, and therefore do not apply to your score.
moved to User talk:Nutta Butta/Smash 5 Prediction!
Roster Predictions
Nutta's Prediction
Welp, here we go! Now for some explanations because I'm bored.
I did not add any Mario characters because, despite being the biggest and the mascot Nintendo series, they are way over-represented, with seven characters.EDIT: Added Paper Mario as a new Mario representative.The DK, Yoshi, and Wario universes did not get any extra representatives because they are only barely separate from the Mario universe.EDIT: Added Dixie Kong as a newcomer, kinda serves as a newcomer for all four. EDIT: Also added Kamek as a villain representative for Yoshi. Besides Baby Mario & Baby Luigi (who I've considered as a tag-team), Kamek is the most important non-Yoshi in the series.
- I brought back the Ice Climbers because Sakurai cut them just because of them breaking the 3DS version. Since he likes his random characters, he'd probably bring them back once he's able to.
- I added Inkling because I think Splatoon! will be a pretty popular game, and its characters are really cool. I actually have an ink system worked out for him, but I won't go into to much detail.
Yuga joins the Zelda series, mostly to even it out with the Mario and Pokemon games a little. EDIT: Replaced Yuga with Midna, a much more popular and highly requested character.EDIT: Replaced Midna with Skull Kid, another popular and highly-requested character who is also a villain, which would be nice to have. ...I really hate Ghirahim, btw.EDIT: Added Tingle. Mario got two non-clone newcomers in Smash 4, so it's not unreasonable. Plus, while Mario/Pokemon/Zelda have always been around equal in representation, Zelda is falling behind now... two newcomers brings them back to equal.EDIT: Removed Tingle, since Ravio fills the extra Zelda slot (I forgot about him earlier). EDIT: Added Impa in addition to Skull Kid.- Krystal is added due to the fact that, alongside random characters, Sakurai also likes adding requested characters. Like King Dedede in Brawl and Mega Man in Smash 4. Also, she's a nice unique face for the Star Fox series, and would use her staff.
I added Ridley too, because of the same reason as Krystal (and because I really wanted the roster to be even). I've seen images of him in Brawl at the same size as Bowser and Charizard, and it wasn't entirely ridiculous. Although I still doubt he'll get in, he would make an okay addition.EDIT: Removed Ridley. EDIT: Added Dark Samus as a replacement Metroid villain.- Balloon Fighter joins as a new retro and random representative (heh heh, alliteration)
- Dillon because he was highly-requested and for an eShop representative.
- Waddle Dee because I think Sakurai will favor the Kirby series a little, since he favored the Kid Icarus in Smash 4.
EDIT: Also added Prince Fluff, since besides Kirby, all of the current representatives are villains.EDIT: Removed Prince Fluff. - Chorus Kids for a second random character (we had both WFT and Duck Hunt, right?)
EDIT: Cut Chorus Kids. Actually, I think most attempts at a random character will probably end it failure. I think getting the 3 point deduction would be better xDEDIT: Brought them back. - Mewtwo returns for Pokemon
- however, he's likely going to be replaced by a Gen VII newcomer once I have an idea of who they are. Maybe even Gen VIII.EDIT: Due to Mewtwo being confirmed for DLC in SSB4, I think he's likely to return in SSB5 as non-DLC.As such, Greninja will now be replaced by a Gen VII/VIII Pokemon.EDIT: Added an extra spot specifically for a Pokemon newcomer, and all other characters will stick around. Mallo is another eShop representative. And possibly a random character. In my opinion, he deserves it, but I'm sure someone disagrees.EDIT: Due to lack of a moveset, cut Mallo.- Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina return.
Try as I might I couldn't come up with a fourth clone (which is why I added Ridley). I considered Jolteon, Blood Falcon, and Dark Link, but none of them seemed like they would make the cut. But, I think Sakurai will keep clones in.Personally, I like them. EDIT: Eventually decided on Ravio as a Link clone. He would fight using a wooden sword, which isn't as strong as Link's, but some of his moves have different effects- for example, his up special could use the Fire, Ice, and Sand Rods (switching through in that order), with the Fire having a fiery effect and having slightly more range, the Ice freezing opponents at high damages, and the Sand doing the most damage with no side effects. EDIT: Alongside updating Ravio's image, I removed Dark Pit because he wasn't accepted very well, while Dr. Mario and Lucina were (except for the people who just all-out hate clones). EDIT: Due to Sakurai's obsession with Kid Icarus, I brought back Dark Pit. EDIT: Added Blood Falcon as a fifth clone, because I needed another slot.EDIT: Removed Blood Falcon.EDIT: Brought back Blood Falcon and removed Ravio. Bomberman joins as a new third-party representative. He seemed like he fit the best, although he only beat out Maxwell and Professor Layton because he was the only one with 3D artwork (and I'm a stickler about things matching).EDIT: Due to Rayman's feature as a trophy, I think it's likely that he'll be a third party, not Bomberman. Still want Layton and Maxwell though :(- EDIT: Added Viridi as a Kid Icarus newcomer, since she and Hades seem to be the most requested, and also because Sakurai is obsessed with KI and will probably add someone new.
EDIT: Added the Pikmin Captains as a Pikmin newcomer. It's kinda a tag-team with Alph and Brittany/Alph and Charlie/Brittany and Charlie (with costumes switching them out). Semi-clone of Olimar, with the second captain acting like a Luma, to an extent.EDIT: Removed Pikmin Captains.- EDIT: Added a Fire Emblem spot for a character from the next game. We've always gotten a character from a recent game. So I'm sure the pattern will keep up.
- EDIT: Added Isaac from Golden Sun. ...Mostly because there aren't any non-retro universes without representatives except Golden Sun, Starfy, and Rhythm Heaven.
- EDIT: Added Takamaru, since he's no longer Japan-exclusive.
EDIT: Added Chibi-Robo. Now I have three new non-retro universes without previous representation!- EDIT: Added Tempo as another eShop representative. He's better than Mallo, but only barely.
- EDIT: Added the currently unnamed protagonist of Xenoblade X as a secondary Xenoblade representative. I think he/she'll be somewhat like Lucas, and would probably get cut in Smash 6 (if there are going to be more than five games :P), but would have several similarities to Shulk... except I don't think the Monado is returning... I dunno. Either way, I think this character will appear, whoever they are. Maybe even as a Shulk replacement...
- EDIT: A list of cut veterans: Duck Hunt
and R.O.B.. I cut Duck Hunt because I needed an extra spot for Dixie Kong, and Duck Hunt was probably the dumbest character in the game (although I'm pretty good at him).I didn't actually mean to cut ROB, but he's a very random character and I have quite a few on the roster already, so cutting two of the random veterans wasn't an entirely bad thing.EDIT: Added back ROB, since he's been in two games and last time that happened it made lots of people upset, including people who thought they were ridiculous randoms.As mentioned above, Greninja will also likely be cut to be replaced by a Generation VII or Generation VIII newcomer.EDIT: Cut Wii Fit Trainer. She and Duck Hunt seemed to be the most likely to be cut.
So there you go. Feel free to add your own now. :)
Rtzxy's Prediction
Characters from Returning Series
| Blue text detonates a newcomer. | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| File:MarioSymbol.png | Mario | Luigi | Peach/Daisy | Bowser | Rosalina & Luma | Waluigi | |
| File:WarioSymbol.png | Wario | File:YoshiSymbol.png | Yoshi | File:IceClimbersSymbol.png | Ice Climbers | ||
| File:DKSymbol.png | Donkey Kong | Diddy Kong | Dixie Kong | File:PunchOutSymbol.png | Little Mac | ||
| File:ZeldaSymbol.png | Link | Zelda | Sheik | Ganondorf | Toon Link | Midna | Ghirahim |
| File:KirbySymbol.png | Kirby | King Dedede | Meta Knight | Magalor (maybe) | File:AnimalCrossingSymbol.png | Villager | |
| File:PokemonSymbol.png | Pikachu | Jigglypuff | Lucario | Charizard | Greninja | Mewtwo | |
| File:KidIcarusSymbol.png | Pit/Dark Pit | Palutena | File:StarFoxSymbol.png | Fox | Falco | ||
| File:EarthboundSymbol.png | Ness | File:MetroidSymbol.png | Samus | Zero Suit Samus | File:PikminSymbol.png | Olimar/Alph | |
| File:FireEmblemSymbol.png | Ike | Marth/Lucina | Robin | File:FZeroSymbol.png | Captain Falcon | ||
| File:Game&WatchSymbol.png | Mr. Game & Watch | File:SonicSymbol.png | Sonic | Tails (maybe) | File:MegaManSymbol.png | Mega Man | |
| File:PacManSymbol.png | Pac-Man | File:XenobladeSymbol.png | Shulk | File:SmashBrosSymbol.png | Mii Fighters | ||
Notes
- Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt, Wii Fit Trainer, and Dr. Mario are cut.
- Mewtwo and Ice Climbers return.
- Lucina and Dark Pit will be demoted to costumes of Marth and Pit, respectively.
- Alph returns as a palette swap of Olimar, and Daisy becomes a palette swap of Peach.
- Waluigi, Dixie Kong, either Midna or Ghirahim, and maybe Magalor and Tails are newcomers.
Characters from New Series
- Inkling (Splatoon)
- A Splatoon Inkling has a pretty good chance in being in Smash 5 or 6, as I believe Splatoon is going to be a (relatively) well-selling game, and a representative would be nice.
- Rayman (Rayman series)
- If he can appear as a trophy in Smash 4, why not as a playable character in Smash 5 or 6?
- Tempo (HarmoKnight)
- Because why not? He seems like a good fighter choice, plus I played and enjoyed the game he's from, so, he's gonna be in Smash 5 or 6.
- Balloon Fight (Balloon Fight)
- A rumor stating that he was supposed to be in Smash 64 circulated, plus, we got Bowser Jr., so…
PikaSamus' prediction
Incomplete
- A row with a pink background means that the character is no longer on my list.
- A row with a light blue background means that I doubt the character's chances.
Veterans
I may be missing some.
Newcomers
| Character | Series | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Gen. VII or VIII rep. | Pokémon | Depends on which is newer at the time. |
| Ridley | Metroid | The argument "Ridley is too big" is the dumbest thing. |
| Slippy | Star Fox | I feel that Slippy is more important than Krystal or Peppy. |
| Agnès | Bravely | Bravely Default is pretty much a Nintendo game outside of Japan, with Nintendo publishing it. She has also been confirmed to be in Bravely Second, but I don't know what role she has, as I don't know Japanese. |
Squirtle's little prediction section
Nobody gets my title. Except maybe rtzxy and poweron
No chart. I don't do charts. If you can make a chart, and the fact that I don't have a chart is bugging you, go ahead and make this a chart, as long as you don't change my predictions.
Veterans
- Mario.
- Luigi.
- Peach.
- Bowser.
- Link.
- Toon link.
- Ganondorf.
- Donkey Kong.
- Diddy Kong.
- Mega Man.
- Pit.
- Dr. Mario.
- Sonic.
- Palutena.
- Mewtwo.
- Lucario.
- Wario.
- Ness.
- Lucas.
- Pikachu.
- Jigglypuff.
- Yoshi.
- Captain falcon.
- Robin.
- Ike.
- Marth.
- Ice climbers
- Kirby
- Meta Knight
- King Dedede
- Samus
- Olimar
- Fox
- Falco
- Shulk (he's really feeling it!)
- Master Hand (Via glitch)
Newcomers.
- Adelaine (the painter lady from kirby 64)
- Inkling
- Layton
- shadow
- that's all for now.
Littlesquirtle, an average user who doesn't like his signature. (talk) 15:34, 2 November 2014 (EST)
SmashBros's Predictions
No charts for me. I don't do charts, okay? Too much work. :P So here it goes.
Veterans
Mario Series
- Mario
- Luigi
- Dr. Mario
- Peach
- Bowser
- Rosalina & Luma
- Bowser Jr.
Donkey Kong Series
- Donkey Kong
- Diddy Kong
Legend of Zelda Series
- Link
- Zelda
- Sheik
- Ganondorf
- Toon Link
Metroid Series
- Samus
- Zero Suit Samus
Kirby Series
- Kirby
- Meta Knight
- King Dedede
Star Fox Series
- Fox
- Falco
- Wolf
Pokémon Series
- Pikachu
- Charizard
- Lucario
- Greninja
- Mewtwo
- Jigglypuff
Mother Series
- Ness
- Lucas
Fire Emblem Series
- Marth
- Ike
- Robin
Kid Icarus Series
- Pit
- Palutena
- Dark Pit
Single Representative's Series
- Yoshi
- Wario
- Captain Falcon
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Olimar
- Villager
- Shulk
- Little Mac
- R.O.B.
- Sonic
- Mega Man
- Pac-Man
- Mii Fighter
- Ice Climbers
Newcomers
This ain't gonna be organized, so be prepared.
- Dixie Kong
- Skull Kid
- Waddle Dee
- Midna
- Ridley
- Kamek
[Yoshi series, not Mario] - Isaac
- Chrom
- Viridi
- Yveltal
- Waluigi
[Wario series, not Mario] - Chibi-Robo
- Layton
- Lyn
I'm leaving this incomplete just for a little bit, okay? SmashBros (talk) 10:55, 4 November 2014 (EST)
Aidanzapunk's Predictions
Alright, here goes nothing.
Cut Characters
- Dark Pit: Let's face it, no one really likes him.
- Bowser Jr.: Eh...I dunno, there's just...something about him that I...just don't like...
- Wii Fit Trainer: This one was an out-of-left-field pick.
- Villager: Same as above.
Newcomers
- Professor Layton: This guy needs to be in. You could do so much with him. And he's had a lot of history with Nintendo.
- Shadow the Hedgehog: For the record, he would NOT be a Sonic clone.
- Krystal: She wouldn't be a Fox clone. ...Maybe a Palutena one. I dunno.
- Inkling: Because why the hell not.
Previously Cut Veterans
- Lucas: I do miss the poor guy...
- Ice Climbers: If there's anyone I miss more than Lucas, it's them.
- Snake: I swear, if he doesn't come back as DLC, then he should come back in Smash 5.
- Wolf: Honestly, he's less of a clone of Fox than Luigi is of Mario. Sure, he can go fuck himself, but still.
Dunno about stages.
-Aidan the Gamer 11:16, 18 November 2014 (EST)
TheMasterHand's Probable Prediction
Cut Characters
Wii Fit Trainer Robin Zero Suit Samus
Newcomers
- Fawful
- Chesnaught
- Sceptile
- Waluigi (NOTE: Would be in the WarioWare Series)
- Daisy
- Ashley
- Kat and Anna
- Jimmy T
- Baby Mario (NOTE: Alternate costumes would be based on other Star Children:Baby Luigi, Baby Bowser, etc.)
- Kamek
- Giga Bowser (NOTE: Would be a bit smaller)
- Knuckles
- Shadow
Clone Newcomers
- Masked Dedede (Clone of King Dedede)
- Dark Meta Knight (Clone of Meta Knight)
- Dark Samus (Clone of Samus)
- Mr. L (Semi-Clone of Luigi)
- Metal Mario (Semi-Clone of Mario)
- Dixie Kong (Clone of Diddy Kong)
- Ms. Pac-Man (Semi-Clone of Pac-Man)
- Tails (Semi-Clone of Sonic)
Stages
- Battlefield
- Final Destination
- New Super Mario Bros Wii Stage
- Luigi's Dreams
- Ashley's Mansion
- Kirby Triple Deluxe Stage
- DK Country 3-D Stage
- Tip Of The IceBerg
- Pong
- Starfox 64 3-D Stage
- Pokemon Stadium X
- G&W: Ball
- Super Mario Bros 2
- Hyrule Castle 2
- Kalos Pokemon League
- Neo Bowser's Castle
- Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze Stage
Familiar Stages
- Kongo Jungle (SSB64)
- New Super Mario Bros U (SSBU)
- Peach's Castle (SSBM)
- F-Zero (SSBM)
- Luigi's Mansion (SSBB)
- Super Mario 3-D Land (SSB3DS)
- Metal Battlefield (SSB64)
- Pokemon Stadium (SSBM)
- Pokemon Stadium 2 (SSBB)
- Donkey Kong (SSBB)
- Hyrule Castle (SSBM
- Sector Z (SSB64)
- Dream Land (SSB64)
- Green Greens (SSBM)
Awesomelink234's predictons
Cut characters
Lucina Duck Hunt Meta Knight R.O.B Zero Suit Samus Olimar Dr. Mario
Veterans
Mario Luigi Peach Bowser Rosalina Bowser Jr. Yoshi Wario Mr. Game and Watch Donkey Kong Diddy Kong Link Zelda Sheik Ganondorf Toon Link Samus Pit Palutena Marth Ike Robin Kirby King Dedede Little Mac Fox Falco Pikachu Charizard Jigglypuff Greninja Ness Captain Falcon Villager Wii Fit Trainer Dark Pit Shulk Pac-Man Mega Man Sonic
Previously brought back cut characters
Ice Climbers Lucas Ivysaur Squirtle Mewtwo Roy Pichu
Newcomers
Prince Fluff (Kirby's Epic Yarn, 2010, Wii) Magolor (Kirby's Return to Dream Land, 2011, Wii) Birdo (Super Mario Bros. 2, 1988, NES) Fawful (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, 2003, GBA)
MarioIsTheBest predictions
cut characters
Dr. Mario
Lucina
Dark Pit
everyone else returns as they were in Smash 4 (everyone else I think has a 50% chance or greater of returning, including Mewtwo)
Newcomers and Returning cut characters
Mewtwo
Ice Climbers
Wolf
Dixie Kong
King K Rool
Ridley
Captain Toad
(New Gen Pokemon)
Impa
Tom Nook
(new series)
(new series)
(new series)
(new series)
1blitzer1' s predictions
All sm4sh characters,
lucas, Roy, ridley, sora, midbus/ ice midbus, dark bowser(browsers inside story version) dark samus, dewott, grovyle, clemont (from XY) pokemon trainer, ocarina zelda/ zelda & shiek combo with new arrows and a bow, ice climbers, spear waddle dee/ bandana dee, zoroark, (roll, zero, or bass) protoman, skyward sword wolf transformation link, mii psychic, Dixie kong, crystal from starfox, Dr. Luigi, daisy, captain toad, hungry Luna(those fat, always hungry star bit guzzlers from galaxy) cat mario(or whatever new suit they make...chicken?) and mabye some street fighter characters if calcium wants to be in 5mash.
