Peach Turnip change
15DollarsWentSouth Please show me what you base Peach's turnip knockback growth increase on. Do not show the part where Peach's turnip killed during Sudden Death. During Sudden Death blastzones come (visibly) closer, even Sheik's needles kill during Sudden Death, so this does not have to be a turnip knockback buff.
If you do not have any proof, I suggest the change be removed. -Unsigned
- For starters, do not use a character talk page as a means to call someone out, especially if you are leaving your post unsigned. With that said, Peach's standard turnips (the ones that aren't the "dot-eyes" and "Stitchface") deal extremely marginal knockback, even at extreme percents, like those in Sudden Death in all Smash titles prior to Ultimate. The zoom-in from Ultimate's sudden death has no bearing on the case I'm trying to make. The fact a standard Turnip actually was able to KO with a noticeable amount of knockback that we've seen from the footage available is a good indicator already. 15DollarsWentSouth 16:25, 19 November 2018 (EST)
Ah, sorry, I forgot to sign my post.
I don't know where you get the idea from that I'm "calling you out". It makes sense to address you because this is a change that you have added to the wiki. I'm simply asking you for your reasoning. This is not a personal attack.
Anyway, the zoom-in does actually have bearing on your case. The zoom-in is not purely cosmetical, it affects gameplay. Moves that would not kill at 300% in a usual match now will, because the boundaries come closer. In other words, if a move kills during Sudden Death, this does not have to mean the move would KO at 300% in a normal match. As such, a turnip killing during Sudden Death does not suggest a decrease in turnip KO knockback growth (nor any other move in the game). A similar case: at the Dutch Invitational in October, Sheik killed Cloud with a needle during Sudden Death, yet there are no reports of Sheik's needles have higher knockback growth. Sudden Death is not a reliable source for knockback tweaks. Meruuu (talk) 12:34, 20 November 2018 (EST)