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Merge?

Hi Aidan, me and Son Daniel have decided to merge these two pages according to this discussion? Thanks. S3AHAWK (talk) 15:00, May 14, 2020 (EDT)

You don't need my permission to do that, it's a userpage, you can do whatever you want. Just let me know which one the two of you want deleted, and I can do that. Aidan, the Rurouni 15:01, May 14, 2020 (EDT)

Mario, Peach, Wario, and Waluigi cameos in this video ------> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DsOVUYxXw

Hi Aiden, I am curious as Nintendo Just released this video and at 2 minutes and 34 seconds, Mario, Peach, Wario, and Waluigi appear as a cameo in this game. Can we wait until June 5 til the game is released to count these as cameos because the Nintendo Direct mini from March doesn't show these characters. Thanks. S3AHAWK (talk) 16:11, May 18, 2020 (EDT)

Since the game's not out yet, then yes, we should wait. Aidan, the Rurouni 16:13, May 18, 2020 (EDT)

Makes sense, but since I'm not buying the game (because i got xenoblade for my june game) I found more cameos in video reviews.S3AHAWK said ketchup won 15:02, June 3, 2020 (EDT)

This vergeben leaks page ----->[1]

Hi Aidan, sorry for bugging you for the third time in a row, but I see this vegeben leaks page and there is an official vergeben leaks page. Can we tag this for deletion right now or wait until they are unblocked? S3AHAWK (talk) 16:31, May 21, 2020 (EDT)

Names

Um, someone is putting in names for the attacks of Mario’s Melee moveset. Is it bad? SonDaniel (talk page) 01:16, May 27, 2020 (EDT)

It is, we don't take fanmade move names or moves from Prima guides. Aidan, the Rurouni 01:18, May 27, 2020 (EDT)

Then where do we get the name of attacks, excluding special moves? SonDaniel (talk page) 01:19, May 27, 2020 (EDT)

From official sources (i.e., if they're named by Sakurai in a Direct or, as of Ultimate, in-game). Aidan, the Rurouni 01:20, May 27, 2020 (EDT)

NinTylo's block

While I undestand he is disreguarding the rules, there are a few alarming things that concernes me reguarding his block. His infinite block right when he got back after 6 months, especially without warning is imo overboard and, for the lack of a better term, abusive for an admin. He may be disregarding the rules continuously, but he's still trying to do good faith, and I've seen repeat vandals blocked less than hin. As the blocking guidelines state:

"Indefinite blocks (more commonly known as infinite blocks or permabans) are used in cases where a user has been deemed "a lost cause", with no chance of being a useful contributor in the future. This generally results from repeated blatant disregard for policy"

Reguardless he is not intentionally breaking the rules but still trying to be a good faith user and has made useful contributions, just doing things the wrong way. I also was concerned about his initial 6 month block but was somewhat afraid to bring it up to an admin back then, though now I feel I should bring up something that makes me believe that you may have blocked him out of anger. This is in no way asking for a reduce in his block but something rather concerning I needed to bring up. OmegαToαd64 • the Best Kαrter 21:43, May 29, 2020 (EDT)

See, here's the thing.

Maybe I'm just a little fed up today. That is a thing that can happen. A lot of things have been happening that I will not delve into right now. However, I did let out a lot of that aggression earlier today, so I'm not one to immediately believe it was a trigger finger easily going off.

The fact of the matter is, there's a lot of stuff that needs to be taken into consideration here. We tried giving him warnings before, and to immediately go against the warnings and go right back to what he was doing showed nothing more than a simple refusal to learn. Separate from the wiki are also several emails I received from NinTylo, asking for an unblock out of sheer boredom, which further cemented an entire missing of the point of being blocked.

I don't use permabans often. But if a six month block did nothing, then anything less than infinite wouldn't have done anything either. I'd also like to point out that this exists, which has been used on at least two separate occasions in the past (even prior to its creation). Aidan, the Rurouni 21:55, May 29, 2020 (EDT)

I will say I didn't know about the emails (and to be fair I forgot you can send emails since I never set one here for privacy reasons), but yeah it shows he obviously doesn't know the purpose of a block. Anyway I was just concerned because it seemed so sudden because he just got unblocked, but now I see it was justified knowing more about it. Thanks for the clarification OmegαToαd64 • the Best Kαrter 22:33, May 29, 2020 (EDT)

how to remove spam and who can remove spam on talk pages

Hi Aidan, I am curious on removing spam on talk pages in the future. 1)how do you do it and 2)who can do it? I just want some advice. Thanks S3AHAWK said ketchup won 02:03, June 10, 2020 (EDT)

I am pretty sure everyone can remove spam since I have seen OmegaToad using something like <spam removed> for IP spam (I don't think it is necessary to say that tho) on talk pages. But I do believe directly removing them with undo/rollback is fine. Naughty🐽GRAND DAD 自閉肥宅 02:22, June 10, 2020 (EDT)

Glitch? on Template:UpdateList (SSBU)/7.0.0

For some reason, my post on that template cannot be displayed correctly. My post is *{{bug|Created a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF3nwJFQ4VE visual glitch] where Bayonetta's clothes do not disappear during her smash attacks after being hit by another smash attack.}}, but only the {{bug}} part is shown on Bayonetta (SSBU). What happened here?--Raffina H.-207 (talk) 18:30, June 12, 2020 (EDT)

Oh, yea, those templates hate YouTube links. Do it like this:

*{{bug|Created a visual glitch where Bayonetta's clothes do not disappear during her smash attacks after being hit by another smash attack.}}<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF3nwJFQ4VE</ref>

That should fix the issue. Aidan, the Rurouni 18:33, June 12, 2020 (EDT)

Edit: As I wrote this, Porplemontage appears to have fixed the issue in a better way. Aidan, the Rurouni 18:37, June 12, 2020 (EDT)

I am far late on this, but the reason this happens is because the URL for the youtube video has an "=" sign in it, which wikimedia is taking as a setting of a parameter. To get around this, you simply use the numbered parameter format ({{template:1=content}}). This works for all templates. I am hoping that this explanation can help someone in the future. Serpent  King 17:31, June 28, 2020 (EDT)

Has it been fixed? When looking at the template it just looks like a ref number Raul Retana (talk) 15:12, July 8, 2020 (EDT)

I don't think this is a thing that can be fixed, given how it's a Mediawiki thing rather than a code thing. Aidan, the Rurouni 15:37, July 8, 2020 (EDT)

About SSBU hitbox sub-pages

(This was MEMEBOI08S first question) I want to contribute by using Microsoft Paint to make drawings I will work hard on despite it being bad to show what the hitboxes would look like if the ___ (for example Mario’s fireball) was not missing but the page is protected from vandalism and I just joined pls help MEMEBOI08 (talk) 02:07, June 19, 2020 (EDT)

...the hitbox subpages are created using much more technical stuff than Microsoft Paint. I'm not the guy to talk to about this, seeing as how I don't have those tools readily available to me, but I will tell you that doing that isn't going to be what we're after. Aidan, the Rurouni 02:15, June 19, 2020 (EDT)

All of the hitbox pages are semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users may edit them. You must first have over 10 edits and have joined for 7 days before becoming autoconfirmed.

As for the drawings, a drawing of a hitbox would still require a visual of the actual hitbox for it to be illustrated accurately, at which point you could simply upload the visual that you're basing the drawing off of. Doing so with no reference to how the hitbox functions, or even looks like, would fall under speculation, which we do not allow.

Also, if you have any general questions about the wiki that wouldn't need the involvement of an administrator, I recommend you post it in the help desk instead. Nokii — 02:36, June 19, 2020 (EDT)

Edit Deleted

Hi it’s MEMEBOI08 again I said something true btw I’m a honest boi but somebody else deleted it what should I do to prevent this from happening in the future and so I can re-add it —Preceding unsigned comment added by MEMEBOI08 (talk • contribs) 00:27, June 28th, 2020 (EDT)

What edit in question are you referring to? Aidan, the Rurouni 16:15, June 28, 2020 (EDT)

Posting a help wanted for a page on Giga Bowser’s hitboxes in SSBU —Preceding unsigned comment added by MEMEBOI08 (talk • contribs) 16:20, June 28, 2020‎ (EDT)

Well, first off, sign your comments with ~~~~. It helps keep track of things on talk pages.

Secondly, that's not how you do that. If you want people to add something, mark it with something like {{image}}, or put it in the talk page. Don't directly put it on the page itself.

Hope this helps. Aidan, the Rurouni 16:23, June 28, 2020 (EDT)

Question

Hi... so I'm back now (and still a bit nervous about coming back) but I do have a question. On here there are a lot of red links so I was wondering, despite being an archive would it be fine for me to edit just to remove the red links so that they don't show up in wanted pages? Omegα Toαd 02:02, July 4, 2020 (EDT)

That should be fine? I think that's an exception to the "don't edit archives" rule. I may be wrong. Aidan, the Rurouni 02:04, July 4, 2020 (EDT)

Cinnpie's placement at Smash N Splash 5

Hello, I noticed Cinnpie's placement at Smash N Splash 5 wasn't filled, so I searched, and through a lot of scrolling, found her at 1953rd ^^ you can verify it on the Smash.gg for SNS5 by doing a ctrl+F search on page 63 of the standings ^^ The page is protected, so I can't edit it myself, hope an admin can do it for me, that's why I'm messaging here ^^ Thanks by advance [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eizzah (talk • contribs) 13:21, July 8, 2020 (EDT)

I don't think that placement is accurate. SNS 5 only had around 1,600 entrants. Taking a quick look at her profile, it doesn't seem like she actually participated since she only "fought" 1 match which doesn't even exist. CookiesCreme 15:08, July 8, 2020 (EDT)

Account deletion/deactivation

Hey, I don't use my SmashWIki account anymore. Can it be deleted or otherwise made inaccessible? I'm fine with my edits remaining on the wiki; I'm just clearing out accounts that I don't use anymore and I don't want someone getting into this one. Thanks. High5 (talk) 10:24, August 13, 2020 (EDT)

You can't delete a SmashWiki account so the best you can do is just stop using it. NPM Morr!? 11:02, August 13, 2020 (EDT)

Forum:Page creation rights

@Aidanzapunk: This passed, but I guess no one got around to implementing it? I'd like to create Hax's Harem. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 00:19, August 15, 2020 (EDT)

As far as I know, Hax's Harem isn't even an actual crew like a team crew. They only made an appearance as a crewbattle at Shine 2019 and is moreso a crewbattle crew than a team crew, which we don't create pages for.

Also, you need to be autoconfirmed (7 days, 10 edits) in order to create pages. CookiesCreme 05:31, August 15, 2020 (EDT)

To answer the initial question, that proposal is over four years old, and things have not stayed the same since. Page creation is restricted to autoconfirmed to prevent spam and nonsense pages from being created. Aidan, the Rurouni 12:52, August 15, 2020 (EDT)

Could you update the forum page to reflect as much? Just seems confusing otherwise. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 00:04, August 16, 2020 (EDT)

@Cookies and Creme: If there is a distinction, then I think an update to Crew is an order to explain it. I just saw Slox tweeted about it and added it to the articles. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also, I knew that about Autoconfirmed on a technical level because I already checked Special:ListGroupRights before I inquired about it here. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 00:04, August 16, 2020 (EDT)

Given the fact that:

1. The forum is four years old and next to no one would go searching for it,
2. We have a policy in place that prevents me (and others) from editing archived discussions and forums, and
3. We have a page directly explaining that you cannot create a new article without being autoconfirmed,

I see no reason to update the forum page. Aidan, the Rurouni 00:12, August 16, 2020 (EDT)

Hey

First off (late) congrats on becoming a bureaucrat! I didn't notice at first thanks to technical problems (and also decided to take a little break to focus on WikiBound). Next would this happen to be you on WikiBound? If so I wasn't expecting to see you there and it's pretty neat. Omegα Toαd 20:42, September 5, 2020 (EDT)

Lol. I literally made my account there a few days ago just to do that. Though it's not all too surprising to see wiki editors on other wikis—I keep an eye on the Dragon Quest Wiki and their Smash pages, for instance. Aidan, the Rurouni 20:45, September 5, 2020 (EDT)

File:Mario Cheer JP Melee.ogg

Hi, you recently deleted the file "File:Mario Cheer JP Melee.ogg" for being duplicate, but this file was in use on Mario (SSBM), which now has a broken file link. I can't see what file it was a duplicate of, so could you please link to the correct file on said article? Alex the Weeb 05:11, October 1, 2020 (EDT)

Upon further inspection, it appears that the file isn't duplicate, but simply appears to sound the same as the english version. However all our fighter articles list both versions, which is handled by a template, and thus both versions are needed. Alex the Weeb 05:25, October 1, 2020 (EDT)

Username change request

Could you please change my name to SleepyPuff? My current name is really outdated.

Thanks.

User:Melee Weegie

First off, in the future, please properly sign your talk page comments with ~~~~. Secondly, as per SW:NAMECHANGE, get back to me in a few days to reconfirm that you wanna go through with this. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 13:56, October 9, 2020 (EDT)

Which SSB4/Ultimate Rob default is prioritized on this wiki

On the Ultimate character table, all of the infoboxes, and some tables on pages such as Fighter and Dash prioritize the NES colors, while the SSB4 character table, all of the alternate costume pages, and other pages such as Walk prioritize the Famicom colors. Which one is it? Right now, both are being prioritized on different parts. Is it NES because this is and English wiki and therefore most people would know that as the default in SSB4 and Ultimate, or is it the Famicom colors because the Japanese version is the original? 99.203.10.81 22:29, October 14, 2020 (EDT)

...That is perplexing. It's been my understanding that, as this is a Japanese game first, the Famicom color takes priority, though I am not 100% sure on that statement. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 22:31, October 14, 2020 (EDT)

Generally we use the "true" first colour, which for R.O.B. is the Famicom one. Although for the numerical data tables like the dash/walk speed pages I think the actual correct usage is "no head icons". Toomai Glittershine The Rainbow 23:16, October 14, 2020 (EDT)

Interwiki links

So I've noticed that you tend to use "iw" for interwiki links rather than "s" (To give an example for those who don't know what I'm talking about: {{iw|nonexistentwiki|Non-Existent Page}} instead of {{s|nonexistentwiki|Non-Existent Page}}).

Is there something I'm missing? Because using "s" seems to work just as fine (not to mention it reduces any unneeded bytes). SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 18:51, October 15, 2020 (EDT)

{{s|wikiname|wikipage}} gives a specific page; {{iw|wikiname|wikipage|specification}} links to specific pages like this one to save on space and skipping over the general page. I only ever use iw for a page with parentheses; I use s otherwise. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 18:56, October 15, 2020 (EDT)

Let's test that out, shall we:

Here's a link to the arcade Punch-Out!! game with the "s": Punch-Out!!

Now here's the same link, but with the "iw": Punch-Out!!

Now let's test it again, but this time without specifying which page we want to link it to:

With the "s": Punch-Out!!

With the "iw": Punch-Out!!

So far with both tests, they seem to be functioning the exact same and I'm not seeing any differences between the two (aside from the extra byte from "iw"). Perhaps you were using a poor example or you didn't explain well enough. SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 19:05, October 15, 2020 (EDT)

...since when does s have a third parameter? Hmm. Guess I missed something. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 19:06, October 15, 2020 (EDT)

Sorry to butt in, but it looks like it was added a couple years ago. Nokii brought up the change on the talk page but it didn't go anywhere. I was actually going to bump it soon but I guess it has some attention this way. --CanvasK (talk) 19:11, October 15, 2020 (EDT)

{{s}} was never supposed to have a specifying parameter, because this defeats its purpose of being a simple link to pages in other namespaces. People using {{s}} when they should be using {{iw}} is what's caused its continuing "abuse" as somewhat of a duplicate template of {{iw}}. In addition, conflating the two like this means that if in future we want (or need) to do something different between namespace links and interwiki links (e.g. a hidden HTML property), it'll be a huge mess of manual fixing. Even if they happen to have the same syntax, they should be used appropriately, not as each other. Toomai Glittershine The Golden 19:20, October 15, 2020 (EDT)

Username Change Request

Hey, I'd like to change my username to "SeveralCircles" as the one I have now is very outdated and I hate using it. Thanks! CMWAidanx (talk) 11:12, October 18, 2020 (EDT)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE, get back to me in a few days to confirm that you wanna go through with it. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 11:15, October 18, 2020 (EDT)

Figured I'd make this official

Can you please change my name to DrakRoar? Thanks :) DracoRex, Creator of the Land 14:49, October 29, 2020 (EDT)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE, get back to me in a few days to confirm that you wanna go through with this. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 15:03, October 29, 2020 (EDT)

Confirming. DrakRoar the game design dragon 12:16, October 31, 2020 (EDT)

Just reminded me, name change request

I'd like to change my name as well, to StrawberryChan. Thank you. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 15:11, October 31, 2020 (EDT)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE, get back to me in a couple days to reconfirm you want to go through with this. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 15:13, October 31, 2020 (EDT)

Confirming the change. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 15:36, November 3, 2020 (EST)

What constitutes a minor glitch?

I have been directed to you as the person that requested the deletion of the Min Min T-Pose glitch. The reason you gave for the deletion of my article is that we don't need one for every minor glitch. The issue is that I don't believe that is a minor glitch. It is a consistently repeatable glitch that has the capability to soft lock the game if the players are not careful. I think the issue is that there is no clear difference between major and minor glitch explained anywhere on this site. The closest thing I can find is that minor glitches have small amounts of information and have been patched out. If that is the case, then there are other patched out glitches that have little information, such as the buster wolf freeze glitch, that still have articles up without issue. What this site needs is a dedicated section that clearly explains the criteria to be a major or minor glitch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Other Jared (talk • contribs) 17:26, November 8, 2020 (EST)‎

1. I was the person who deleted the page, though I was not the person who requested the deletion to begin with; that would be this guy. I only acted on the deletion as pages marked under speedy delete are to be deleted quicker than other pages.
2. Though I am not the person who requested its deletion, I can still answer the question of "why delete it when others are still up?", and the answer is simple: this site has a collection of pages that should be deleted (I don't know why the Buster Wolf glitch is still up, for instance), because minor glitches that have small amounts of information and have since been patched out should not have pages. The problem is that no one ever gets around to deleting them. That's not to say the administrative staff is lazy, we just have other stuff around the whole of the wiki to worry about.

Aidan, the Thankful Rurouni 17:36, November 8, 2020 (EST)

Dracula phase 2 image

I've been going through the images for spirits and making the filenames follow a pattern, however in the process I renamed the file for Dracula's phase 2 because it was being used for both the boss and spirit art. I wanted to split them, but because I already moved the file I can't simply upload the boss image to the old name (I get a message saying it already exists). Is there a way to fix this? --CanvasK (talk) 12:39, December 2, 2020 (EST)

I think the issue is because of the file redirect still existing; there are a few pages that still link to the redirect, however, so those will need to be taken care of first (unless those pages are the very ones you want to use for this new file itself). Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 12:44, December 2, 2020 (EST)

Most of those pages refer to the boss, so they would keep the old file name (Dracula Phase 2 SSBU). Most pages have already been edited for the new file name (SSBU spirit Dracula (2nd Form)), though my script may have changed some proper uses of the boss file name. --CanvasK (talk) 12:49, December 2, 2020 (EST)

In that case, I went ahead and deleted the redirect. You should be good now. It may give you another error message saying "this file, under this exact name, previously existed", but I usually just ignore that. Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 12:59, December 2, 2020 (EST)

Thanks! I'll double check the pages to make sure the proper ones are used and get rid of the broken image tag. --CanvasK (talk) 13:06, December 2, 2020 (EST)

Would I be able to get the same thing done for "Dark emperor.png"? I already have the images ready to upload. --CanvasK (talk) 20:15, December 6, 2020 (EST)

Ask and thou shalt receive. Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 20:16, December 6, 2020 (EST)

Thanks again! That should be the last hiccup in this project. The next step is to delete the now-unused redirects, and I wanted to ask if I could just give a list of them or do they all need to be tagged first? --CanvasK (talk) 20:20, December 6, 2020 (EST)

Apologies for getting back so late: either or, doesn't matter to me. If they're tagged, then someone will at least get to it. Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 14:42, December 11, 2020 (EST)

(reset indent)If I can send a txt file and have it loaded into a delete-o-matic that'd be cool. I'd rather avoid another 1450 edits clogging Recent Changes (and then another 1450 for deletions), but if that would make it easier/faster on your all's end then I don't mind. Or perhaps a txt file can be given to XL to tag and not spam Recent Changes? --CanvasK (talk) 14:58, December 11, 2020 (EST)

Unfortunately, there is no real "delete-o-matic" (at least, to my knowledge), but maybe XL can be the one to put them into speedy delete. How many, exactly, are there? Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 15:02, December 11, 2020 (EST)

About one for every spirit. Excluding the ones already deleted 1,409. --CanvasK (talk) 15:04, December 11, 2020 (EST)

I am wondering if it's truly necessary to delete most of those redirects. Redirects are generally harmless; they only true reason to delete them (in my opinion) is for being actively wrong or confusing. True, we might not particularly want them to be picked up again, but since a template is handling things now, I would expect the odds of that to be low.

But for now, send that list through e-mail or slap it into a pastebin. I generally don't allow bots to have deletion powers because I know at least one non-admin here has a bot, but for a one-time blast it might be doable. Toomai Glittershine The Yellow 07:26, December 12, 2020 (EST)

If it is decided that they not be deleted that is fine by me. One argument for deletion is if someone wants to use that file name, let's say "Andy Bogard.png". They'll have to go with a different name (such as add "1" like I've seen with the spirit files) or ask for the redirect to be deleted. An argument against it is it may be linked to by another wiki or else where; I've seen cases where we link to a Mario Wiki image and it has been moved with no redirect.

Here's the pastebin (I gave it a limit of 6 months for whatever reason). I could see only the files that don't mention spirits being deleted since those are more likely to conflict. Thank you, both, for your time. --CanvasK (talk) 08:26, December 12, 2020 (EST)

At least for me personally, if a wiki page links to a file on another wiki, but the page no longer exists, I'd change the link on the first wiki to be updated as well. I definitely wouldn't catch it immediately, but still. Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 12:27, December 12, 2020 (EST)

"what English voice?"

I believe what whoever added that was talking about is Mark Hildreth, who voiced Terry in the anime adaptations of Fatal Fury.

That being said, those're the only pieces of media (as far as I'm aware) in which Terry had an English dub voice actor, as all of his voice performances in the games were done by Japanese voice actors, so I don't think it needs to be pointed out, anyway.

Still, just thought I'd let you know this. SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 22:14, December 15, 2020 (EST)

Oh, I knew there was at least an English voice in the anime(s), lol. I even looked on the SNK wiki to make sure I wasn't crazy and even found references to live action actors, but my intent was to specifically refer to in-game stuff. Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 22:16, December 15, 2020 (EST)

Regarding your revert of my last edit

I've decided to check the Sound Test in Ultimate to see if you were right, and as it turns out, the "Series" was added to the "FINAL FANTASY VII" section, which I am 100% certain was not there before the update came out (I do know that at least during the Music section of the August 2018 Direct, it flat out shows it as "FINAL FANTASY VII" without the "Series" in the Sound Test). SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 16:51, December 20, 2020 (EST)

This screenshot from a couple months ago proves this is true. Señor Mexicano (talk) 17:33, December 20, 2020 (EST)

Question

If I want to delete my discord account and create a new one is that possible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omega Toad (talk • contribs) 18:09, December 22, 2020 (EST)

Im not aidan but Here is a article to delete a discord account on desktop S3AHAWK The Festive One 19:50, December 22, 2020 (EST)

Alright so apparently I need to wait 14 days to create a new account since its not fully deleted till then and I need to set an email address when using the online version, which mine apparently is still considered registered until the full deletion unless there's a faster way to fully delete it. Omegα Toαd, the Toαd Wαrrior. (BUP) 02:10, December 23, 2020 (EST)

Trophy image donation

Hey there, I'm just writing here because I don't see a place to directly message somebody, and I picked you from the list of admins because you support Professor Layton for Smash.

I'm a trainee staff member at Zelda Wiki and recently started to capture images of SSB4-3DS Trophies in higher resolution. After doing most of the Zelda-related ones, I decided to go for the main Fighter Trophies and offer them to SmashWiki. I didn't want to upload them myself since I'm not planning to stick around here, plus I don't know your policies on keeping various types of images. For example, at Zelda Wiki, we would classify those 128x128 Trophy thumbnails as either sprites due to their in-game usage, or as renders since they're officially-produced images of a game's 3D models, while the images I've collected are models captured from their in-game appearance. In other words, I just wanted to pawn off these files and let you guys do with them as you wish.

Anyway, I've been posting them in batches of .zip files in your Discord's #general channel, because that appeared to be the closest thing to a wiki-related channel, but I'm afraid they may have gone unnoticed. If you can't find them on there, then please let me know how else I could send them. The batches contain some contact info and basic technical details. I hope you find them useful. HelpTheWretched (talk) 20:36, January 11, 2021 (EST)

You can always DM one of the admins through Discord, though to get the attention of them on-wiki would be through a talk page.

The images probably went unnoticed because of the fact that we do, in fact, have a wiki-specific channel on Discord; it's just restricted to those who are actually confirmed to be users on the wiki and aren't just there for shits and giggles. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the images we currently have are actually sprite rips; these images could be useful, since they're essentially full-on model rips.

Layton would be perfect for Smash. Things aren't looking too bright for Level-5, though, if you ask me. But I'd be fine with even just a spirit, at this rate. Aidan, the Rurouni 20:45, January 11, 2021 (EST)

I'm quite sure your current 3DS Trophy images are sprite rips, since they're all the same resolution. All the ones we had on Zelda Wiki were sourced from SmashWiki, which is why I thought to share my new ones. If you'd like more from the Zelda series, most of them are available here, though we're fixing up that page and our templates may throw some broken links. HelpTheWretched (talk) 14:38, January 12, 2021 (EST)

I realize that this is a daunting task to ask of one individual (assuming you're the only one ripping these models from the game), but I brought this up with the other administrators, who agree that, if we're replacing files, this should be an all or nothing situation; do you think getting all of the trophies like this would be at all possible? Aidan, the Rurouni 14:40, January 12, 2021 (EST)

Unfortunately that won't happen, which is why I stuck to just Fighter Trophies initially. Many of them are easy and quick, but the ones with partial transparency require an exhaustive process of taking screenshots in layers and reconstructing them; some would be even harder due to rendering errors in the game. I understand the all-or-nothing approach and I'd really like to be able to do more, so I'll consider any specific requests outside of the Fighter category. HelpTheWretched (talk) 16:51, January 12, 2021 (EST)

I've uploaded batch 4 to Discord #general. The text file mentions the fate of the final few Fighter Trophies; in short, "I'll try" for two of them, and "Not likely" for the third. Hopefully yourself and the other administrators find a way to use these images, but if not, I had a good time making them. HelpTheWretched (talk) 20:54, January 16, 2021 (EST)

Hi! You may remember me from such discussions as this one right here. I've been doing more of those trophy images in my spare time, mostly just for fun, so I hope this isn't coming across as being pushy. I've noticed that the List of trophies (disambiguation) separates them all by series. If I were to capture any series' complete trophy sets (and I've already done several), would that be something you guys would consider using for the wiki? HelpTheWretched (talk) 21:12, February 26, 2021 (EST)

I think we'd still rather take an all-or-nothing approach, unfortunately. Aidan, the Lovely Rurouni 21:14, February 26, 2021 (EST)

Not a problem. :) Another possible use I just thought of, would be to edit out the trophy base and use them as in-game model images for any items etc. that may be missing one. Most items probably already have decent renders but there might be some that don't. HelpTheWretched (talk) 17:41, March 1, 2021 (EST)

Request for merging of two pages' histories

Could you merge the history of Freeze frame into Hitlag? It was improperly moved. PikaSamus (talk) 16:10, January 13, 2021 (EST)

Smash is what type of Wiki?

I was curious what type of Wiki is the SSBWiki? Is it a Gamepedia type of Wiki or something else? Wolff (talk) 04:48, January 22, 2021 (EST)

We are an independently hosted wiki. Aidan, the Rurouni 18:10, January 22, 2021 (EST)

How would one go about making one? Wolff (talk) 18:23, January 22, 2021 (EST)

You basically need to acquire a domain, web hosting, and install MediaWiki. --Porplemontage (talk) 18:58, January 22, 2021 (EST)

Thank you! Wolff (talk) 19:53, January 22, 2021 (EST)

A userbox question

When someone else adds your own userbox to their userbox collection, do you need permission from that person to remove your own userbox from their collection? SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 18:24, February 3, 2021 (EST)

I would see it more as "hey, can you please remove my userbox" rather than "can I remove it for you", personally. What seems to be the issue, if I may ask? Aidan, the Lovely Rurouni 18:27, February 3, 2021 (EST)

It's regarding the Omega Toad fiasco last year. While I was aware it, I'm only now learning about what exactly he said that caused said drama (as I could not find the whole thread at the time). It's been a year since it happened and it's possible he has grown since then, so I'll leave it up to him if he wants to keep my userbox. I'm only asking about this should there be another case in which a user gets themselves in a situation like this. Do I make myself clear? SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 19:32, February 3, 2021 (EST)

About this

I'd like to point out that the conversation has not gone anywhere in over two weeks after receiving at least one new comment (and often several) every day since it started. The people who support moving do so on the basis of 'jab' being the more popular term, that SmashWiki is not official, and that Ultimate has officially used the term on one occasion. Those who oppose do so on the basis of 'Neutral attack' being part of a set of attack names, being that there are other official terms we use in favour of far more popular fan terms, and that overall, renaming the page would break consistency with many other pages, including tilt attack and smash attack.

Weighing up the arguments together, it's clear that both sides have equal, stalemating power. SW:CONSENSUS even states: "If it appears that neither side of a debate can agree or compromise with the other, and their arguments are evaluated at about the same strength, the debate is declared "no quorum" and the subject of the debate fails to pass." In hindsight, I realise I should have called this to administrator attention first, but the discussion is pretty much dead as far as I can tell, and pretty much every argument from one side is being countered by the other. I would like you to go back and discuss this with the rest of the admin team, please. Black Vulpine of the 🦊Furry Nation🐺. Furries make the internets go! :3 22:34, February 13, 2021 (EST)

I never said your call was wrong. I'm just saying you can't be a backseat admin. Aidan, the Lovely Rurouni 22:44, February 13, 2021 (EST)

Fair enough, and again, I acknowledged that in my previous post. So is this now being discussed? Black Vulpine of the 🦊Furry Nation🐺. Furries make the internets go! :3 01:05, February 14, 2021 (EST)

There is agreement on the discussion not going anywhere. I'll handle it. Aidan, the Lovely Rurouni 01:07, February 14, 2021 (EST)

RE: Character edits

Hey! Thanks so much, and sure thing, no worries! I'll put it on hold for a bit but try to complete a few pages for AFD - feel free to add your own edits too if you like, or encourage others to do the same. I just created Sora's page and sporked most of the content from his SSF2 incarnation on the McLeodGaming wiki so will happily finish things up once things clear up! --Darthrai (talk) 11:45, March 4, 2021 (EST)