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Ganondorf (SSBB)/Side special

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This article is about the hitbox visualization in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. For the move itself, see Flame Choke.
Hitbox visualization showing Ganondorf's grounded side special, Flame Choke.
Hitbox visualization showing Ganondorf's aerial side special, Flame Choke.
Hitbox visualization showing Ganondorf's successful grounded Flame Choke.

Overview[edit]

Ganondorf using Flame Choke against Link in Brawl.

Ganondorf's side special in Brawl is Flame Choke. Ganondorf boosts forward with one dark magic-infused hand outstretched and grabs an opponent by the face before dropping them to the ground. As it is a command grab, Flame Choke cannot be shielded. The grab comes out slowly and it has deceptively poor range, which can make it hard to land. If Ganondorf does grab the opponent, however, it is fairly rewarding. The opponent is put into a wakeup situation that cannot be avoided with a tech, and when used on the ground, Ganondorf has the frame advantage against his opponent. Ganondorf has a +9 to +12 frame advantage against most characters, giving him guaranteed followups, including dash attack or forward tilt for a KO confirm against over half the cast (and characters vulnerable to forward tilt must be wary of Ganondorf mixing up their DI). If Ganondorf cannot follow up or if he wants to go for a more powerful followup, he can tech chase the opponent where he can either land one of his stronger moves (such as down aerial or a smash attack) or he can Flame Choke again to reset the situation.

If used in the air, Ganondorf will forcefully slam the opponent down to the ground. This is not as useful on stage as it has considerably more ending lag than the grounded version, giving Ganondorf no guaranteed followups. If used offstage, unless there is a moving platform that prevents them from reaching the blast zone, he and the opponent will plummet downwards and will result in both players being KOed. This tactic is called the Ganoncide. However, unlike in Smash 4, where this tactic will always result in victory for Ganondorf, in Brawl, using Ganoncide is unpredictable and can result in a win, a loss, or even Sudden Death.

Hitboxes[edit]

Grabboxes (Grounded)[edit]

ID Radius Bone Offset G A
0 5.0 0 0.0 8.0 4.5 HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialFalse).png
1 1.0 0 0.0 8.0 4.2 HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png
ID Damage Angle BK KS FKV Bone SDIx FFx T% Type Effect Sound
1 4% AngleIcon0.png Forwards 100 10 0 0 1.0x None 0% Throwing (type) Normal (effect) S Kick

Grabboxes (Aerial)[edit]

ID Radius Bone Offset G A
0 5.0 0 0.0 6.0 6.5 HitboxTableIcon(GroundedFalse).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png
1 5.0 0 0.0 11.0 6.5 HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png
ID Damage Angle BK KS FKV Bone SDIx FFx T% Type Effect Sound
1 4% AngleIcon0.png Forwards 100 10 0 0 1.0x None 0% Throwing (type) Normal (effect) S Kick

Subspace Emissary enemy only hitboxes[edit]

ID Part Rehit rate Damage SD Angle BK KS FKV Radius Bone Offset SDIx H× T% Clang Rebound Type Effect G A Sound Direct Blockable Reflectable Absorbable Flinchless Heedless Piercing Undodgeable Strechy No GFX Unscaled ?5 Hit Bits
2 0 0 12% 0 AngleIcon25.png Forwards 60 100 0 6.0 0 0.0 10.0 7.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png Hand (type) Darkness (effect) HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Punch SpecialsDirect.png HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png 11110000000010
3 0 0 12% 0 AngleIcon25.png Forwards 60 100 0 4.8 31 6.0 0.0 0.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png Hand (type) Darkness (effect) HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Punch SpecialsDirect.png HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png 11110000000010
The Subspace Emissary hitboxes are present in both the grounded and aerial versions of the move and have the same lifetime as the grabboxes.

Throw Data[edit]

Grounded[edit]

ID Damage Angle BK KS FKV Bone SDIx FFx T% Type Effect Sound
0 9% Sakurai angle Standard 60 90 0 0 1.0x None 0% Typeless (type) Darkness (effect) L Explosion
1 4% AngleIcon0.png Forwards 100 10 0 0 1.0x None 0% Throwing (type) Normal (effect) S Kick

Aerial[edit]

ID Damage Angle BK KS FKV Bone SDIx FFx T% Type Effect Sound
0 12% Sakurai angle Standard 40 82 0 0 1.0x None 0% Typeless (type) Darkness (effect) L Explosion
1 4% AngleIcon0.png Forwards 100 10 0 0 1.0x None 0% Throwing (type) Normal (effect) S Kick

Timing[edit]

Grounded[edit]

Grab 16-30
Animation length 59
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Grounded Throw[edit]

Super Armor 17-40
Throw Release 31
Animation length 60
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