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A rising headbutt, followed by K. Rool falling on his belly. Up smash is incredibly strong knockback-wise while being reasonably well-protected, with [[intangibility]] and [[Belly Super Armor]] backing it up. Being frame 6, it can be used as a rather decent out of [[shield]] option to deny aerials on shield. It is also an amazing tool for ending stocks from [[mash]]ing punishes out of [[King K. Rool (SSBU)/Down throw|down throw]], hitting opponents during the 12 frames of popout lag through its impressive active frames. As a result, the move has a solid place in King K. Rool's kit.  
A rising headbutt, followed by K. Rool falling on his belly. Up smash is incredibly strong knockback-wise while being reasonably well-protected, with [[intangibility]] and [[Belly Super Armor]] backing it up. Being frame 6, it can be used as a rather decent out of [[shield]] option to deny aerials on shield. It is also an amazing tool for ending stocks from [[mash]]ing punishes out of [[King K. Rool (SSBU)/Down throw|down throw]], hitting opponents during the 12 frames of popout lag through its impressive active frames. As a result, the move has a solid place in King K. Rool's kit.  


However, the move has many issues. For starters, while the armor is useful, the move's damage can be used against it through [[counter]]s. [[Vision]] with [[Monado Arts|Buster]], [[Tetrakarn]] and [[Gut Check]] can instantly break the armor should they counter the initial hit<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QiWT63mHFBLbKn9594ahe1ee22Gf_aowCjrK6Heushk/edit#gid=776887055</ref>, and others will severely damage it while tending to avoid the rest of the hits. The move is also monumentally slow afterwards, with a FAF of 72. The hits after the first hit are generally quite useless outside of shield poking, with the 2nd hit's mid hit having the weakest meteor smash in the game and the 3rd hit never landing KOs. While it is effective for shield poking, there isn't much reward after either. As an out of shield option, up smash also tends to become more niche when players realize that the first hit - the one they're after - only targets aerial opponents. Overall, if not used for mash punishes out of down throw, up smash tends to falter.
However, the move has many issues. For starters, while the armor is useful, the move's damage can be used against it through [[counter]]s. [[Vision]] with [[Monado Arts|Buster]], [[Tetrakarn]] and [[Gut Check]] can instantly break the armor should they counter the initial hit<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QiWT63mHFBLbKn9594ahe1ee22Gf_aowCjrK6Heushk/edit#gid=776887055</ref>, and others will severely damage it while tending to avoid the rest of the hits. The move is also monumentally slow afterwards, with a FAF of 72. The hits after the first hit are generally quite useless outside of shield poking, with the 2nd hit's mid hit having the weakest meteor smash in the game and the 3rd hit never landing KOs. While it is effective for shield poking, there isn't much reward after either. As an out of shield option, up smash also tends to become more niche when players realize that the first hit - the one they're after - only really works on aerial opponents due to the [[jostling]] mechanics. Overall, if not used for mash punishes out of down throw, up smash tends to falter.


==Hitboxes==
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Revision as of 19:56, December 9, 2019

Hitbox visualization showing King K. Rool's up smash.

Overview

A rising headbutt, followed by K. Rool falling on his belly. Up smash is incredibly strong knockback-wise while being reasonably well-protected, with intangibility and Belly Super Armor backing it up. Being frame 6, it can be used as a rather decent out of shield option to deny aerials on shield. It is also an amazing tool for ending stocks from mashing punishes out of down throw, hitting opponents during the 12 frames of popout lag through its impressive active frames. As a result, the move has a solid place in King K. Rool's kit.

However, the move has many issues. For starters, while the armor is useful, the move's damage can be used against it through counters. Vision with Buster, Tetrakarn and Gut Check can instantly break the armor should they counter the initial hit[1], and others will severely damage it while tending to avoid the rest of the hits. The move is also monumentally slow afterwards, with a FAF of 72. The hits after the first hit are generally quite useless outside of shield poking, with the 2nd hit's mid hit having the weakest meteor smash in the game and the 3rd hit never landing KOs. While it is effective for shield poking, there isn't much reward after either. As an out of shield option, up smash also tends to become more niche when players realize that the first hit - the one they're after - only really works on aerial opponents due to the jostling mechanics. Overall, if not used for mash punishes out of down throw, up smash tends to falter.

Hitboxes

ID Part Rehit rate Damage SD Angle Angle type BK KS FKV Set weight Radius Bone Offset SDI× T% Clang Rebound Effect Type G A Sound Direct Hit bits Hit part Blockable Reflectable Absorbable Flinchless No GFX Heedless
Hit 1 Early
1 1 0 15% 0 AngleIcon83.png Standard 32 95 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 8.0 bust 7.5 1.0 0.0 1.2× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Head).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
Hit 1 Late
1 1 0 8.0% 0 AngleIcon83.png Standard 32 84 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 6.5 bust 7.5 1.0 0.0 1.2× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Head).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
Hit 2 Early
0 1 0 8.0% 0 Sakurai angle Standard 60 45 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 4.0 bust 7.0 1.0 0.0 0.5× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Head).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
Hit 2 Meteor Smash
0 0 0 3.0 0 AngleIcon290.png Standard 80 5 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 4.0 bust 7.0 1.0 0.0 0.0× 0.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Head).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png S Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
Hit 2 Late
0 1 0 3.0 0 Sakurai angle Standard 30 20 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 4.0 bust 7.0 1.0 0.0 0.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Head).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png S Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
ID Part Rehit rate Damage SD Angle BK KS FKV Radius Bone Offset SDIx T% Clang Rebound Type Effect G A Sound Direct Hit bits Blockable Reflectable Absorbable Piercing Heedless No GFX Flinchless Stretch
Hit 3
0 0 0 10.0 0 Sakurai angle Standard 70 50 0 5.0 top 0.0 5.0 0.0 1.0x 1.2x 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png TypeIcon(Body).png EffectIcon(Normal).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialFalse).png M Kick SpecialsDirect.png 63 HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png 0.0 5.0 14.0
1 0 0 10.0 0 Sakurai angle Standard 70 50 0 2.0 top 0.0 8.0 6.0 1.0x 1.2x 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png TypeIcon(Body).png EffectIcon(Normal).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png S Kick SpecialsDirect.png 63 HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png 0.0 8.0 15.0

Timing

Charges between 3-4
Belly Super Armor Frames 6-21
Head Intangibility 6-11
Hit 1 Early 6-9
Hit 1 Late 10-11
Hit 2 Early 19
Hit 2 Meteor Smash 20
Hit 2 Late 21
Hit 3 Early 22-23
Interruptible 72
Animation length 85
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Belly Super Armor  FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png
Intangibility  FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Intangible).png FrameIcon(Intangible).png FrameIcon(Intangible).png FrameIcon(Intangible).png FrameIcon(Intangible).png FrameIcon(Intangible).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png
Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
FrameIcon(Lag).png
Lag time
FrameIcon(LagChargeS).pngFrameIcon(LagChargeE).png
Charge interval
FrameIcon(Hitbox).png
Hitbox
FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png
Vulnerable
FrameIcon(Intangible).png
Intangible
FrameIcon(Armour).png
Armour
FrameIcon(Interruptible).png
Interruptible

Trivia

  • Interestingly, Hit 1's hits has an ID of 1 rather than 0, implying that there were meant to be sweetspots on the move at some point in development.