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New FA

--PSIWolf (TCE) 08:32, 11 August 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, just what I was going to say. -- 07:30, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

We should have this updated every week, with the smash arena. Hey, Toomai!Pokémonultimate PokemonTrainerHeadSSBB.png 23:39, 16 November 2011 (EST)

Um, no. We've already had many FA's and I'm pretty sure we're not going to have repeats. Besides, there is not enough articles to make featured every week. BlindColoursBoing.png 23:44, 16 November 2011 (EST)
I'm not opposed to having repeat features, featured articles can be improved significantly since they were featured. Ganondorf (SSBB) for example, got featured even though it is quite the mess. As such, if the article was cleaned up, with its readability significantly improved, I would support featuring it again at some point. I agree however, we don't have enough articles to have a new feature every week, without us either refeaturing articles that haven't been improved since being featured, and/or we'll be featuring articles that are too low of quality to be considered featured articles . Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 01:34, 17 November 2011 (EST)
If every week is too short, then how about every month?, we'd only go through 12 per year, it would provide plenty of time for previously featured articles to be redone, and it would be less unprofessional than having the same one for three months. Pokémonultimate PokemonTrainerHeadSSBB.png 23:53, 1 December 2011 (EST)
As of now, I still think a month would be too frequent, as I don't think we have enough high quality articles to feature at such a rate without refeaturing/featuring non deserving articles. I would rather have an article that deserved to be featured up for two to three months, rather than featuring an article that is merely good (or worse). Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 01:09, 2 December 2011 (EST)

Fan made stuff on Smashwiki

Hey just wondering. If we have fan made stuff like Project M, on the Smashwiki, why don't we put Super Smash Flash on? Harro (talk) 19:10, 21 December 2013 (EST)

Because Project M is highly notable Brawl Hack and was decided by the community. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 19:55, 21 December 2013 (EST)


Can the featured article can be changed. ..... Ya really WolfHeadSSBB.png wanna look 22:14, 14 September 2011 (EDT) Hi did you know that Golddeen the Pokémon doesn't do damage that sucks LOL. TanookiTex


on the did you know template, the grab hitbox fact was changed to "in melee and possibly in ssb64." that can't be included. did you know must be confirmed facts, right? 25T16File:HitboxEffect(Flame).png|20pxIt’s a me! 21:58, 19 September 2011 (EDT)

Never mind. 25T16File:HitboxEffect(Flame).png|20pxIt’s a me! 18:53, 24 September 2011 (EDT)


Are there any images of the Control Stick tilted in specific directions, or of specific directions on the Control Pad highlighted? RickTommy (talk) 21:23, 27 September 2011 (EDT)

I don't think so... why asking? Blindcolours TONDA GOSSA. 22:04, 27 September 2011 (EDT)
Brawl and Melee's instruction manuals often show a picture of a button or control stick in a direction instead of saying the button or direction's name when mentioning certain moves. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 22:09, 27 September 2011 (EDT)


A thought occurred to me. For those who are unaware, The Runaway Guys is a group of three well-known LPers on YouTube (Chuggaaconroy, ProtonJon, & NintendoCapriSun). Chuggaaconroy has previously affiliated with Bulbapedia and Super Mario Wiki, both NIWA founders. The Runaway Guys' newest LP is the SSE. Should we consider trying to affiliate with them, if they're up for it? Miles (talk) 13:52, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

Chuggaa rocks, and I guess the others do too. I say "let's try", though I don't really care if nothing happens, I guess.--FalcoHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 13:57, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
Why not? I've watched all both TRG and Chugga for a while, I know they'll go for it. 25T16File:HitboxEffect(Flame).png|20pxIt’s a me! 22:33, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
Basically, if we get enough consensus, I'll send them a message about it using the SmashWiki YT channel. I wouldn't presume to use that channel for anything like this without the community's clear support, though, hence the asking. Miles (talk) 22:55, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

I have no problem with this. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:57, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

Barring any opposition, I'll send them a message tomorrow. Miles (talk) 17:32, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

Great. Hopefully this might help the search rankings. BlindColours FALCON... 18:06, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

So...what happened? BlindColours ...PUNCH!!! 09:46, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
I sent the message to the Runaway Guys' channel, and have received no response. My guess is it was lost in a large pile of messages.
If I don't get any response in the next few days, I'll send a message to Chuggaaconroy's "business" contact method. Miles (talk) 14:08, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
Did you already do that now?--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 08:06, 21 October 2011 (EDT)


Now that I'm underway with the List of SSBB Music articles, should Music be added to the Navigation section on the homepage? Either now, or at least once the project is finished. After all, the trophy articles are part of the navigation, so music should be as well. ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 08:57, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

I'll get around to making a category soon, as that'll probably be necessary. ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 08:59, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
I've made the category now, [[Category:Music (SSBB)]] . So it should be fine to add this to the navigation now, right? ToastUltimatum Transparent Swadloon.pngComplaints Box 06:33, 18 October 2011 (EDT)
Good idea.--FoxHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 06:33, 18 October 2011 (EDT)

Great work to all of you

Oh look...

This wiki now ranks first place in google search results. We can now all breath a sigh of relief, knowing that Smashwikia will never catch up to us. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 18:26, 22 October 2011 (EDT)

I noticed that too. I have a good feeling that the YouTube channel was a major factor in this. BlindColours Thank you for reading my sig. 18:28, 22 October 2011 (EDT)
It doesn't come up first for me...--FoxHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 03:51, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
It's different for all users, depending on past search history/page history/etc. There were a few tests on IRC that concluded that unbiased "fresh" browsers saw us first. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Jiggy 09:51, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

SSB Games

I believe the Main page needs links to the three games in the Smash series. Clicking on "Games" redirects to the list of pages in the "Games" category wich is a bit confusing. I think it'd be best to simply use the games icons used in the ArticleIcons template to put in the middle of the page, but a bit bigger, just like every other NIWA wiki has.--Kombatgod (talk) 14:57, 18 January 2012 (EST)

I don't really know what you're referring to with "like every other NIWA wiki has". In addition, we already have links to the three SSB games in the sidebar, so I don't see what the point of having links on the main page would be. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Researcher 16:40, 18 January 2012 (EST)
Oh, I didn't noticed the sidebar. Yeah, that works fine, but you know I'm new to the wiki, so I'm trying to give you a "visitor" point of view. What I was talking about are the little Link faces in Zelda Wiki or those diamonds in Metroid Wiki. You know something visual. Well actually I made a mistake, those are like the only two wikis to have that, but still I find it very useful, specially for a short series like SSB. (having all Mario titles in the main page would take the whole space!)--Kombatgod (talk) 17:01, 18 January 2012 (EST)
They're in the sidebar since, being that there are only three games at the moment, they are easily accessible from anywhere on the wiki. Miles (talk) 17:09, 18 January 2012 (EST)
Ah yes, the icon-based game bars. Yeah, Smash Bros. doesn't really have enough games at the moment to justify having one of those. I'd say the sweetspot for having an icon-based game bar would be in the 7-20 range. Toomai Glittershine ??? Da Bomb 18:43, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Toomai has a point. There are already icons on pages (upper-left hand corner) for the three games, so it is not necessary. LightningBlue: Electric!LuigiHeadSSBB.png 18:51, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Ok, then.--Kombatgod (talk) 19:54, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Tier list?

How do I make a tier list on my home page? Please tell. Meta Ike (talk) 09:58, 17 February 2012 (EST)

For one thing it is called a "User Page". I suggest searching tier on this site and finding the formatting for the table. LightningBlue: Electric! 10:47, 17 February 2012 (EST)

Thanks! Meta Ike (talk) 12:35, 17 February 2012 (EST)

BTW, if ever you need help again, Forum:Help desk is the place to go. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 13:39, 17 February 2012 (EST)

Making Vector the default skin

How do you guys feel about making Vector the default skin? I think it's a little more modern (it is the new MediaWiki default over Monobook) and matches the logo nicely too. Both skins would be kept—this is really about what guests would see. --Porplemontage (talk) 13:48, 24 February 2012 (EST)

Vector takes up more space at the top of the page, and fractionally more at the side, meaning that more of the page is taken up by navigation, rather than content. Also, this seems fairly pointless, as the added area is mainly whitespace. It's not as bad as, for example, Wikia's Oasis for this, but it's still not ideal to be removing about an inch of content space. Vector also puts the search bar in a weird place: the top of a page should be navigation to do with that page, and the left side should be navigation to do with the wiki, so placing the search bar to the right of the edit button is bizarre, especially seeing as Vector otherwise sticks to those rules. The new background does indeed work better with the logo, and it looks shinier and arguably prettier, but I find it less functional. I can see that it would attract new users, but other than that I don't see the point in changing from Monobook. PenguinofDeath 14:11, 24 February 2012 (EST)
I agree with everything PoD said in addition to the following: all the functionality tabs other than "edit" and "history" are hidden in a somewhat inconspicuous dropdown menu. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Irrepressible 14:37, 24 February 2012 (EST)
Yeah, I prefer Monobook over vector. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 21:40, 24 February 2012 (EST)
Why switch to Vector just to change the background skin when we can just change the background skin? Stick with Monobook. BTW, does anyone find a change in background skin viable? Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 07:26, 25 February 2012 (EST)
No, I don't. So yeah, I prefer MonoBook over Vector, too. And on a side note, why aren't we able to use other MediaWiki skins such as Classic, Nostalgia, Cologne Blue, etc? RickTommy (talk) 07:32, 25 February 2012 (EST)
I think Vector only looks good if it is customised. If SmashWiki was to be given a unique look, then Vector would be good. Otherwise, stick with Monobook. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 10:42, 25 February 2012 (EST)

Top-page notice

It's been more than "a few days" since that notice about signature images was put up. So should it be changed now? RickTommy (talk) 21:13, 2 March 2012 (EST)

There are still many users failing to abide this rule, so we have to keep it. One thing we can change, though, is the Featured Article (bump) Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 08:22, 3 March 2012 (EST)
Might I suggest Solid Snake as a featured article? It seems to have lots of information. Accoolx (talk) 08:40, 3 March 2012 (EST)
Nominations go here. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 12:50, 3 March 2012 (EST)
Oh... sorry about that. Accoolx (talk) 14:43, 3 March 2012 (EST)


Why is the flower from Bulbipiedia in the background of th Main Page? The Cheese The Cheese.png 19:29, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

Wikipedia has this same background on its Monobook layout too, so we aren't really stealing anything. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 19:34, 25 June 2012 (EDT)
The Cheese says: Oh, I thought it was a flower for Bulbasaur. Thanks! The Cheese The Cheese.png 19:36, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

Dominant Hand

Can we he have something that verifies what the character's dominant hand is? Like on the infobox. It may seem like a stupid completely unworthy thing to do on an article, but then you look at the F-Zero Wiki, and notice they verify Captain Falcon's blood type. So if even the blood type is shown on the F-Zero Wiki, why not put it on the character's dominant hand on too. I'm ambidextrous, and I show a big wonder for dominant hands so that's why I ask.

You got PWN'd by Link the ambidextrous Link'sTriforce.JPG 21:42, 4 July 2012 (EDT)

Captain Falcon's blood-type is relevent detail on F-Zero Wiki, as Blood Falcon was created using said blood. A character's dominant hand often varies (e.g. Link), so I don't think we can use this. Also, use Forum:General proposals for matters like this, not the talk page of the Main Page. Content on this talk page should only relate to the Main Page itself. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 21:55, 4 July 2012 (EDT)

O.K I see now, I'm not a F-Zero fan so I had no idea why. Sorry I'll use the Forums instead next time. Also, you spelled "relevent" wrong it should be spelled relevant.

You got PWN'd by Link the ambidextrous Link'sTriforce.JPG 2:05, 4 July 2012 (EDT)


Why are all the icons based on the Super Smash Bros. logo? I know it's a Smash Bros. Wiki but not ALL the icons have to look the same. I mean just look at the the category page for the Wiki Icons: [1]. My suggestion is to make them more plain or anything but the Smash Bros. Icon repeated like 30 times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conanshinichi (talkcontribs) 12:56, 4 August 2012

It's the boss's opnion.--ShupaRoehTypicalGuy.png 13:14, 4 August 2012 (EDT)

Your opinion is noted, but unless you have a concrete alternative we'll be sticking with these consistent icons. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Sharp 13:25, 4 August 2012 (EDT)

One suggestion could be a Subspace Bomb for deletion. Perhaps a recolour for speedy deletion?ScoreCounter (talk) 08:07, 19 August 2012 (EDT)

I Like that idea, but an activated Subspace Bomb for speedy. --TommyNook (talk) 18:25, 25 August 2012 (EDT)

Just wondering, but...

Does the "number of articles" counter include Smasher pages? Air Conditioner AC.png IS RIGHT BEHIND YOU 09:28, 23 December 2012 (EST)

I can't check for sure because $wgAllowSlowParserFunctions is false by default, but I believe it does, since I recall it changing when deleting smasher articles. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Eggster 09:50, 23 December 2012 (EST)
Okay, thanks. Air Conditioner AC.png is on an insane rampage 09:50, 23 December 2012 (EST)

Calling all legend of zelda fans.

whoever likes legend of zelda say you do right here. we can help each other on the game if we both have the game. we can tell what games we have. --Toonlink567 (talk) 13:28, 15 March 2013 (EDT)

Don't use the Wiki talk pages for casual conversation. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:37, 15 March 2013 (EDT)

Hey I'm not a "big" Legend of Zelda fan, but there's this weird named hack called EVZELDA which stands for event Zelda, plus Toon Link, Ganondorf, and Young Link are my favorite Zelda Smash Bros characters. June 3, 2013 TanookiTex.

Read the above comment by Omega Tyrant. This is not the purpose of talk pages, much less the talk page of the main page. Furthermore, this conversation is months old. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 21:43, 3 June 2013 (EDT)


Complicated, all information can be found elsewhere. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 12:07, 1 April 2013 (EDT)

I vote to block Anon forever and delete everything he's ever done to the wiki.--PSIWolf a.k.a. Luna! 12:09, 1 April 2013 (EDT)

Major Upcoming Releases

The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds is probably important enough for inclusion. However, five games would look quite plentiful, so should we push Tropical Freeze away for now, merge A Link Between Worlds with Super Mario 3D World (they come out on the same day, double Princess reveal?), just have five games, or not have A Link Between Worlds at all? Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 10:16, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

Merging A Link Between Worlds with Mario 3D World seems ok for me. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 10:20, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

Making Project M bigger on the site.

The mod we know and love Project M is getting bigger and bigger each and every day. So should we support it more, such as putting it as a link in the Navigation side bar? Or even making it so that each character has a Project M page like how each character has a page for each of the games? I want Project M to become very huge and maybe even make it to EVO, however it is a long shot. Recently Project M as shown that the mod can do things other mods couldn't such adding completely new characters without replacing them , like Roy. What do you think? GamerGuy09 (talk) 17:03, 24 September 2013 (EDT)

To be honest, even having the P:M article kind of defies SW:NOT in that we're not supposed to cover fan-created stuff. If you want to have the wiki represent it even more, you'll have to challenge that policy, and/or propose an amendment for it. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Free 17:28, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
Fair enough, just Project M is by far the biggest mod for Smash ever. I just thought that promoting it would be the best for the community. GamerGuy09 (talk) 22:20, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
Project: M is getting very big, insanely so. More and more people are playing it in Tournaments, its starting to become the next Melee. Its rising way quicker than expected, now with MewTwo and Roy. We need to atleast put Project: M in the Navigation menu to the left for even more publicity. GamerGuy09 (talk) 22:19, 14 October 2013 (EDT)

More Major Upcoming Releases

Sonic Lost World (October 18), Wii Party U (October 25), Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games (November 8), Wii Fit U (October 31), and Mario Party: Island Tour (November 22) are all major upcoming releases from Nintendo. However, some of these are less significant than others and having 8 games in the section would probably look cluttered. ChuckNorris24.png 16:30, 9 October 2013 (EDT)

We'd only add those for which we have a NIWA wiki to link to, so the Sonic and Wii-X ones wouldn't be added anyway. I'll try to remember and add the Mario ones once Pokémon is out. Toomai Glittershine ??? Da Bess 16:39, 9 October 2013 (EDT)
Fair enough. ChuckNorris24.png 16:42, 9 October 2013 (EDT)

Featured Article

Can we please change the featured article from the Master Hand Glitch to something else. I mean, come on it's been the same thing for well over a year. It's hardly a "featured article" if it never changes. 00:55, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

What the hell are you talking about, it was made the featured article only two months ago. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 03:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
Additionally, if you think the featured article should be something else, you should make a suggestion for which article should be featured, rather than just saying "change the featured article". Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 03:37, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
What about rotating back to {{FA/1}}?--MegadarderySig.pngegadardery (edits) 16:16, 26 October 2013 (EDT)

I agree, we should change the (un)featured article to something else. It's been Master Hand for ages. I don't care what we change it to, just as loong as it's different. Multus Valde (talk) 04:14, 3 December 2013 (EST)

"Additionally, if you think the featured article should be something else, you should make a suggestion for which article should be featured, rather than just saying "change the featured article"." Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 08:13, 3 December 2013 (EST)


I know it's really insignificant, but it bugs me. The Hocotate Ship appeared in Pikmin 3 as well so it should be labelled Pikmin series instead of Pikmin 2. -- 22:48, 4 November 2013 (EST)

Upcoming Releases

"Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games" already came out. Just an FYI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FireMario1534 (talkcontribs) 23:36, 17 November 2013 (EST)

Not in Japan, which is what Sakurai will care about if he cares at all. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 00:03, 18 November 2013 (EST)
I see. But if we are only caring about Japan releases, then why don't we put the Japan release so people don't get confused? FireMario1534 (talk) 00:09, 18 November 2013 (EST)