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Stuff like the Banzai Bill on Yoshi's Island, the Sonic characters running on Green Hill and the Pokémon on Pokémon Stadium 2 definitely do, but several of the ones listed here have actual gameplay roles, either directly interacting with the players (Support Ghost, Bulborb, King Bulblin) or by triggering effects (Kotake and Koume, Kraid, Dialga and Palkia, Whispy Woods in Dream Land). Would it be more sensible to split them off in a "Stage hazards" template, or call this "Background characters and stage hazards"? (Plus it's missing some characters). --[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 06:06, 11 June 2015 (EDT) | Stuff like the Banzai Bill on Yoshi's Island, the Sonic characters running on Green Hill and the Pokémon on Pokémon Stadium 2 definitely do, but several of the ones listed here have actual gameplay roles, either directly interacting with the players (Support Ghost, Bulborb, King Bulblin) or by triggering effects (Kotake and Koume, Kraid, Dialga and Palkia, Whispy Woods in Dream Land). Would it be more sensible to split them off in a "Stage hazards" template, or call this "Background characters and stage hazards"? (Plus it's missing some characters). --[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 06:06, 11 June 2015 (EDT) | ||
: I'd say for the purposes of this template any character not controlled by the character or part of an item is a backround character.--[[User:Dinodomain|Dinodomain]] ([[User talk:Dinodomain|talk]]) 12:57, 20 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
::The current policy I'd been working from was that named hazard characters ([[5-Volt]], [[Flying Man]], etc.) got pages, whereas background visual-only cameos don't ([[Magnezone]], [[Celeste]], etc.). This template's kind of in an awkward position as a result, although I wasn't really thinking about it when I set that as the guideline. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:58, 20 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Hiding characters without articles == | |||
This is a pretty large template, and as it currently stands, the majority of characters listed do not have their own pages. Most of the links just redirect to disambig pages. I wonder if this hurts the template's value as a navbox. On one hand, it's useful to see all the characters listed in one place, but on the other hand it becomes unwieldy as this list grows larger and larger. | |||
Below, I have the navbox in its current state (as of 16:53, January 4, 2020). All characters are still included in the code, but anyone who doesn't have their own article (i.e. have a role outside a background cameo) is hidden by the <nowiki><!-- --></nowiki> code. As you can see, this considerably shrinks the navbox's size and ensures that every link goes to a page, not a redirect or disambig. | |||
{{Navbox | |||
| name = Background characters | |||
| title = [[Background character]]s | |||
| group1 = ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' | |||
| list1 = [[Bronto Burt]]{{·}} <!--[[Butterfree]]{{·}} [[Buzzy Beetle]]{{·}} [[Fearow]]{{·}} -->[[Fly Guy]]{{·}} <!--[[Goonie]]{{·}} -->[[Koopa Troopa|Green Koopa Troopa]]{{·}} [[King Dedede]]{{·}} [[Lakitu]]{{·}} [[Moltres]]{{·}} <!--[[Necky]]{{·}} [[Pidgey]]{{·}} -->[[Ridley]]{{·}} [[Wolfen]] | |||
| group2 = ''[[Melee]]'' | |||
| list2 = [[Banzai Bill]]{{·}} [[Bronto Burt]]{{·}} <!--[[Chozo Statue]]{{·}} [[Cranky Kong]]{{·}} -->[[Fly Guy]]{{·}} <!--[[Four Giants]]{{·}} -->[[Goomba]]{{·}} <!--[[Goonie]]{{·}} -->[[Koopa Troopa|Green Koopa Troopa]]{{·}} [[King Dedede]]{{·}} [[Lakitu]]{{·}} <!--[[Necky]]{{·}} [[Pak E. Derm]]{{·}} -->[[Porky Minch]]{{·}} [[Toad]] | |||
| group3 = ''[[Brawl]]'' | |||
| list3 = <!--[[Smashville#Background Characters|Animal Crossing villagers]]{{·}} -->[[Arwing]]{{·}} <!--[[Azelf]]{{·}} -->[[Banzai Bill]]{{·}} [[Boo]]{{·}} [[Chain Chomp]]{{·}} <!--[[Chozo Statue]]{{·}} {{s|pikipedia|Cloaking Burrow-nit}}{{·}} [[Cranky Kong]]{{·}} [[Cubone]]{{·}} [[Drifloon]]{{·}} [[Dugtrio]]{{·}} [[Electivire]]{{·}} [[Gekko]]{{·}} [[Goonie]]{{·}} -->[[Great Fox]]{{·}} <!--[[Hoppip]]{{·}} [[Jimmy T.]]{{·}} -->[[Kapp'n]]{{·}} [[K.K. Slider]]{{·}} [[Knuckles the Echidna]]{{·}} [[Lakitu]]{{·}} <!--[[Magnezone]]{{·}} [[Mesprit]]{{·}} [[Metal Gear RAY]]{{·}} [[Metal Gear REX]]{{·}} -->[[Miles "Tails" Prower]]{{·}} <!--[[Necky]]{{·}} [[Parasite Queen]]{{·}} -->[[Polar Bear]]{{·}} [[Porky Statue]]{{·}} [[Red Bulborb]]{{·}} <!--[[Silver the Hedgehog]]{{·}} [[Skarmory]]{{·}} [[Snorunt]]{{·}} [[Snover]]{{·}} -->[[Timmy & Tommy]]{{·}} [[Tom Nook]]{{·}} <!--[[Uxie]]{{·}} -->[[Villager]]{{·}} [[Wolfen]] | |||
| group4 = ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS|for 3DS]]'' | |||
| list4 = <!--[[Alfonzo]]{{·}} [[Bronto Burt]]{{·}} -->[[Chain Chomp]]{{·}} <!--[[Chozo Statue]]{{·}} {{s|pikipedia|Cloaking Burrow-nit}}{{·}} [[Cranky Kong]]{{·}} [[Emolga]]{{·}} [[Goonie]]{{·}} [[Grams]]{{·}} [[Helioptile]]{{·}} [[Jimmy T.]]{{·}} -->[[King Dedede]]{{·}} [[Knuckles]]{{·}} <!--[[Leila]]{{·}} [[Leilani]]{{·}} [[Mechonis]]{{·}} -->[[Mii]]{{·}} <!--[[Milotic]]{{·}} [[Necky]]{{·}} -->[[Nintendog]]{{·}} [[Red Bulborb]]{{·}} <!--[[Shaymin]]{{·}} [[Silver the Hedgehog|Silver]]{{·}} -->[[Tails]]{{·}} [[Toon Link]]{{·}} <!--[[Tortimer]]{{·}} -->[[Viridi]]{{·}} <!--[[Whimsicott]]{{·}} [[Yveltal]]{{·}} -->[[Zapdos]] | |||
|group5 = ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Wii U|for Wii U]]'' | |||
|list5 = <!--[[Town and City#Background Characters|Animal Crossing villagers]]{{·}} -->[[Arwing]]{{·}} <!--[[Axew]]{{·}} -->[[Banzai Bill]]{{·}} <!--[[Big Urchin]]{{·}} -->[[Blastoise]]{{·}} <!--[[Blaziken]]{{·}} -->[[Boo]]{{·}} [[Bronto Burt]]{{·}} <!--[[Clawitzer]]{{·}} [[Cubone]]{{·}} [[Dragonite]]{{·}} [[Drifloon]]{{·}} [[Dugtrio]]{{·}} [[Electivire]]{{·}} [[Fauna of Windy Hill Zone]]{{·}} [[Garchomp]]{{·}} [[Hoppip]]{{·}} [[Honedge]]{{·}} [[Hydreigon]]{{·}} [[Infernape]]{{·}} -->[[Kapp'n]]{{·}} [[King Dedede]]{{·}} [[K.K. Slider]]{{·}} <!--[[Klinklang]]{{·}} -->[[Lakitu]]{{·}} [[Lloid]]{{·}} <!--[[Loftwing]]s{{·}} [[Lubba]]{{·}} -->[[Luma]]s{{·}} <!--[[Magnezone]]{{·}} [[Mechonis]]{{·}} -->[[Mii]]{{·}} <!--[[Mother Fairy]]{{·}} -->[[Mr. Resetti]]{{·}} <!--[[Necky]]{{·}} -->[[Pikmin (species)|Pikmin]]{{·}} [[Piplup]]{{·}} <!--[[Pyroar]]{{·}} -->[[Red Bulborb]]{{·}} [[Scizor]]{{·}} <!--[[Skarmory]]{{·}} [[Snorunt]]{{·}} [[Snover]]{{·}} [[Steelix]]{{·}} [[Tepig]]{{·}} -->[[Timmy & Tommy]]{{·}} [[Tom Nook]]{{·}} [[Villager]]{{·}} <!--[[Wailord]]{{·}} -->[[Wii Balance Board]]{{·}} [[Wolfen]] | |||
|group6 = ''[[Ultimate]]'' | |||
|list6 = <!--[[Alfonzo]]{{·}} [[Andy Bogard]]{{·}} [[Town and City#Background Characters|Animal Crossing villagers]]{{·}} [[Ann Takamaki]]{{·}} -->[[Arwing]]{{·}} <!--[[Athena Asamiya]]{{·}} [[Axew]]{{·}} [[Azelf]]{{·}} -->[[Banzai Bill]]{{·}} <!--[[Big Urchin]]{{·}} [[Billy Kane]]{{·}} -->[[Blastoise]]{{·}} <!--[[Blaziken]]{{·}} [[Blue Mary]]{{·}} -->[[Boo]]{{·}} <!--[[Bottles]]{{·}} -->[[Bronto Burt]]{{·}} <!--[[Butterfree]]{{·}} [[Captain Toad]]{{·}} [[Carmilla]]{{·}} [[Cetacea]]{{·}} -->[[Chain Chomp]]{{·}} <!--[[Chang Koehan]]{{·}} [[Choi Bounge]]{{·}} [[Chozo Statue]]{{·}} [[Clark Still]]{{·}} [[Clawitzer]]{{·}} {{s|pikipedia|Cloaking Burrow-nit}}{{·}} [[Cranky Kong]]{{·}} [[The Creature & Flea Man]]{{·}} [[Cubone]]{{·}} [[Death]]{{·}} -->[[Dracula]]{{·}} <!--[[Dragonite]]{{·}} [[Drifloon]]{{·}} [[Dugtrio]]{{·}} [[Electivire]]{{·}} [[Emolga]]{{·}} [[Fauna of Windy Hill Zone]]{{·}} [[Fearow]]{{·}} -->[[Fly Guy]]s{{·}} <!--[[Garchomp]]{{·}} [[Geese Howard]]{{·}} [[Gekko]]{{·}} [[Goonie]]{{·}} [[Goro Daimon]]{{·}} [[Gruntilda]]{{·}} [[Haru Okumura]]{{·}} [[Helioptile]]{{·}} [[Honedge]]{{·}} [[Hoppip]]{{·}} [[Hydreigon]]{{·}} -->[[Iori Yagami]]{{·}} <!--[[Jimmy T.]]{{·}} -->[[Jinjo]]{{·}} <!--[[Joe Higashi]]{{·}} {{s|inkipedia|Judd}}{{·}} -->[[Kapp'n]]{{·}} <!--[[King (Art of Fighting)|King]]{{·}} -->[[King Dedede]]{{·}} <!--[[Kid Dracula]]{{·}} [[Kim Kaphwan]]{{·}} -->[[K.K. Slider]]{{·}} <!--[[Klinklang]]{{·}} -->[[Knuckles]]{{·}} <!--[[Kyo Kusanagi]]{{·}} {{s|inkipedia|Li'l Judd}}{{·}} {{s|dragonquestwiki|Liquid Metal Slime}}{{·}} -->[[Lloid]]{{·}} <!--[[Loftwing]]s{{·}} [[Lubba]]{{·}} -->[[Luma]]s{{·}} <!--[[Magnemite]]{{·}} [[Magnezone]]{{·}} [[Makoto Niijima]]{{·}} [[Mechonis]]{{·}} [[Medusa (Castlevania)|Medusa]]{{·}} [[Mesprit]]{{·}} [[Metal Gear RAY]]{{·}} [[Metal Gear REX]]{{·}} -->[[Mii]]{{·}} [[Moltres]]{{·}} <!--[[Mother Fairy]]{{·}} -->[[Mr. Resetti]]{{·}} <!--[[Mumbo Jumbo]]{{·}} [[Mummy]]{{·}} [[Necky]]{{·}} {{s|zeldawiki|Old Man}}{{·}} [[Pak E. Derm]]{{·}} [[Parasite Queen]]{{·}} -->[[Pauline]]{{·}} <!--[[Pidgey]]{{·}} -->[[Piplup]]{{·}} [[Porky Statue]]{{·}} <!--[[Pyroar]]{{·}} [[Ralf Jones]]{{·}} -->[[Red Bulborb]]{{·}} <!--[[Rock Howard]]{{·}} -->[[Ryo Sakazaki]]{{·}} <!--[[Ryuji Sakamoto]]{{·}} [[Ryuji Yamazaki]]{{·}} -->[[Scizor]]{{·}} <!--[[Shaymin]]{{·}} [[Silver the Hedgehog|Silver]]{{·}} [[Skarmory]]{{·}} -->[[Slime]]{{·}} <!--[[Snorunt]]{{·}} [[Snover]]{{·}} [[Steelix]]{{·}} {{iw|mariowiki|The Super Mario Players}}{{·}} -->[[Tails]]{{·}} [[Teddie]]{{·}} <!--[[Tepig]]{{·}} -->[[Timmy & Tommy]]{{·}} [[Tom Nook]]{{·}} <!--[[Tockle]]{{·}} -->[[Toon Link]]{{·}} <!--[[Tung Fu Rue]]{{·}} [[Uxie]]{{·}} -->[[Villager]]{{·}} [[Viridi]]{{·}} <!--[[Wailord]]{{·}} [[Werewolf]]{{·}} [[Whimsicott]]{{·}} -->[[Wii Balance Board]]{{·}} [[Wolfen]]{{·}} <!--[[Yuri Sakazaki]]{{·}} [[Yusuke Kitagawa]]{{·}} [[Yveltal]]{{·}} -->[[Zapdos]] | |||
}} | |||
Any thoughts? --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 16:53, January 4, 2020 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 11:27, January 25, 2020
Use this talk page to discuss changes, fixes, and improvements for this template.
What exactly counts as "background"?[edit]
Stuff like the Banzai Bill on Yoshi's Island, the Sonic characters running on Green Hill and the Pokémon on Pokémon Stadium 2 definitely do, but several of the ones listed here have actual gameplay roles, either directly interacting with the players (Support Ghost, Bulborb, King Bulblin) or by triggering effects (Kotake and Koume, Kraid, Dialga and Palkia, Whispy Woods in Dream Land). Would it be more sensible to split them off in a "Stage hazards" template, or call this "Background characters and stage hazards"? (Plus it's missing some characters). --Menshay (talk) 06:06, 11 June 2015 (EDT)
- I'd say for the purposes of this template any character not controlled by the character or part of an item is a backround character.--Dinodomain (talk) 12:57, 20 August 2015 (EDT)
- The current policy I'd been working from was that named hazard characters (5-Volt, Flying Man, etc.) got pages, whereas background visual-only cameos don't (Magnezone, Celeste, etc.). This template's kind of in an awkward position as a result, although I wasn't really thinking about it when I set that as the guideline. Miles (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2015 (EDT)
Hiding characters without articles[edit]
This is a pretty large template, and as it currently stands, the majority of characters listed do not have their own pages. Most of the links just redirect to disambig pages. I wonder if this hurts the template's value as a navbox. On one hand, it's useful to see all the characters listed in one place, but on the other hand it becomes unwieldy as this list grows larger and larger.
Below, I have the navbox in its current state (as of 16:53, January 4, 2020). All characters are still included in the code, but anyone who doesn't have their own article (i.e. have a role outside a background cameo) is hidden by the <!-- --> code. As you can see, this considerably shrinks the navbox's size and ensures that every link goes to a page, not a redirect or disambig.
Any thoughts? --PeabodySam (talk) 16:53, January 4, 2020 (EST)
