Ganondorf (SSB4)/Neutral aerial: Difference between revisions

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Hitbox visualization showing Ganondorf's neutral aerial.

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Overview

Ganondorf performs two kicks in succession. The first kick has low knockback so that it can easily link into the second, more powerful kick. The move is useful for spacing, and occasionally, as an edgeguarding move. It is capable of KO'ing Mario at the center of Final Destination at 133%.

Update history

When Smash 4 was released, this move was relatively unchanged: the first kick had no combo or KO potential and the second kick was still relatively weak. Over the course of the game's updates, Ganondorf's neutral aerial was massively buffed and became more similar to Captain Falcon's.

1.0.4

Landing lag on all aerials reduced.

1.0.6

Neutral attack deals 1% more damage: 6%/9% → 7%/10%.

1.1.1

Neutral aerial deals more damage: 7% (hit 1 late) /9% (hit 2 clean)/5% (hit 2 late) → 8%/10%/7%, its knockback has altered: 20 (base)/100 (growth) → 0/130/90 (hit 1), 100 → 120 (growth, hit 2), its second hit's hitbox sizes increased: 4.3u/5.7u/6.2u → 4.5u/5.7u/7.4u and its angles altered: 55°/60°/65° → 55°/70°/100°. This makes its hits connect together better at low percentages while retaining its KO power.
Neutral aerial's first hit's decreased base knockback makes it less safe on hit and on landing at low percentages.

1.1.3

Neutral aerial's first kick has drastically reduced knockback that allows it combo into the second hit more effectively similar to Captain Falcon's, has a new hitbox on his foot that deals high knockback for spacing properties, transitions three frames faster, has 3 frames less ending lag, and deals more damage on the both the clean and late hitboxes on the second kick.
The drastically reduced knockback on neutral aerial's first hit makes the move less safe on hit and on landing and less effective as a spacer unless hitting with the foot, while completely removing its KOing capabilities. It also deals less damage on the clean and late hitbox, and less total damage.
Neutral, forward, back and up aerials all have 1 frame less landing lag.

Technical changelist 1.1.3

Change	Old value	New value
Neutral aerial first kick knockback	0 (base)/130/90 (growth)	20 (base)/30 (growth)
Neutral aerial first kick new hitbox	N/A	30 (base)/110 (growth)
Neutral aerial first kick damage	12% (clean)/8% (late)	7%/5.25%
Neutral aerial second kick	frame 20	frame 17
Neutral aerial second kick damage	10% (clean)/7% (late)	12%/9%
Neutral aerial total damage	22% (clean)/15% (late)	19%/14.25%
Neutral aerial ending lag	45 frames	42 frames
Neutral aerial landing lag	18 frames	17 frames

Hitboxes

ID	Part	Damage	SD	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			SDIx	H×	T%	Sound
First possible hit (clean)
0	0	7%	0	20	30	0	7.4	3	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
1	0	7%	0	20	30	0	5.7	9	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
2	0	7%	0	50	110	0	4.5	9	6.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
3	0	7%	0	20	30	0	4.5	9	6.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
First possible hit (late)
0	0	5.25%	0	20	30	0	7.4	3	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
1	0	5.25%	0	20	30	0	5.7	9	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
2	0	5.25%	0	50	110	0	4.5	9	6.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
3	0	5.25%	0	20	30	0	4.5	9	6.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
Second possible hit (clean)
0	0	12%	0	25	106	0	6.0	5	6.5	0.0	-3.0	1.0x	1.2x	0%	Kick
1	0	12%	0	25	106	0	5.7	5	0.0	0.0	-1.0	1.0x	1.2x	0%	Kick
2	0	12%	0	25	106	0	4.5	3	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.2x	0%	Kick
Second possible hit (late)
0	0	9%	0	25	106	0	6.0	5	6.0	0.0	-3.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
1	0	9%	0	25	106	0	5.3	5	0.0	0.0	-1.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick
2	0	9%	0	25	106	0	4.5	3	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%	Kick

Timing

Attack

Hit 1 early hitboxes	7-8
Hit 1 late hitboxes	9-13
Hit 2 early hitboxes	17-18
Hit 2 late hitboxes	19-29
Autocancel	1-2, 38-42
Animation length	?
IASA	42

Landing lag

Animation length	17

Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
Lag time	Hitbox	Hitbox change	Autocancel	Interruptible

Ganondorf's moveset

Neutral attack · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Floor attack (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor attack (trip) · Edge attack
Neutral special (def · c1 · c2) · Side special (def · c1 · c2) · Up special (def · c1 · c2) · Down special (def · c1 · c2) · Final Smash

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 *{{buff|Neutral attack deals 1% more damage|6%/9%|7%/10%.}}
 '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.1]]'''
-*{{buff|Neutral aerial has been improved. It deals more damage: 7% (hit 1 late) /9% (hit 2 clean)/5% (hit 2 late) → 8%/10%/7%, its knockback has altered: 20 (base)/100 (growth) → 0/130/90 (hit 1), 100 → 120 (growth, hit 2), its second hit's hitbox sizes increased: 4.3u/5.7u/6.2u → 4.5u/5.7u/7.4u and its angles altered: 55°/60°/65° → 55°/70°/100°. This makes its hits connect together better at low percentages while retaining its KO power.}}
+*{{buff|Neutral aerial deals more damage: 7% (hit 1 late) /9% (hit 2 clean)/5% (hit 2 late) → 8%/10%/7%, its knockback has altered: 20 (base)/100 (growth) → 0/130/90 (hit 1), 100 → 120 (growth, hit 2), its second hit's hitbox sizes increased: 4.3u/5.7u/6.2u → 4.5u/5.7u/7.4u and its angles altered: 55°/60°/65° → 55°/70°/100°. This makes its hits connect together better at low percentages while retaining its KO power.}}
 *{{nerf|Neutral aerial's first hit's decreased base knockback makes it less safe on hit and on landing at low percentages.}}
 '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.3]]'''
-*{{buff|Neutral aerial is significantly improved. The first kick has drastically reduced knockback that allows it combo into the second hit more effectively similar to Captain Falcon's, has a new hitbox on his foot that deals high knockback for spacing properties, transitions three frames faster, has 3 frames less ending lag, and deals 2% more damage on the both the clean and late hitboxes on the second kick.}}
+*{{buff|Neutral aerial's first kick has drastically reduced knockback that allows it combo into the second hit more effectively similar to Captain Falcon's, has a new hitbox on his foot that deals high knockback for spacing properties, transitions three frames faster, has 3 frames less ending lag, and deals more damage on the both the clean and late hitboxes on the second kick.}}
-*{{nerf|The drastically reduced knockback on neutral aerial's first hit makes the move less safe on hit and on landing and less effective as a spacer unless hitting with the foot, while completely removing its KOing capabilities. It also deals less damage on the clean and late hitbox.}}
+*{{nerf|The drastically reduced knockback on neutral aerial's first hit makes the move less safe on hit and on landing and less effective as a spacer unless hitting with the foot, while completely removing its KOing capabilities. It also deals less damage on the clean and late hitbox, and less total damage.}}
 *{{buff|Neutral, forward, back and up aerials all have 1 frame less landing lag.}}
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 |Neutral aerial second kick damage||10% (clean)/7% (late)||12%/9%
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+|Neutral aerial total damage||22% (clean)/15% (late)||19%/14.25%
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 |Neutral aerial ending lag||45 frames||42 frames

Ganondorf (SSB4)/Neutral aerial: Difference between revisions

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