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[[File:RosalinaFAirSSBU.gif|thumb| | [[File:RosalinaFAirSSBU.gif|thumb|350px|Hitbox visualization showing Rosalina's forward aerial.]] | ||
[[File:LumaFAirSSBU.gif|thumb| | [[File:LumaFAirSSBU.gif|thumb|300px|Hitbox visualization showing Luma's forward aerial.]] | ||
{{competitive expertise}} | {{competitive expertise}} | ||
==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
==Update History== | |||
'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|2.0.0}}''' | |||
*{{buff|Rosalina can grab ledges faster after using forward aerial.}} | |||
'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|3.1.0}}''' | |||
*{{buff|Forward aerial's hits connect more reliably.}} | |||
*{{buff|Forward aerial has less ending lag (FAF 60 → 55).}} | |||
*{{buff|Rosalina can grab ledges faster after using forward aerial (84 frames → 79).}} | |||
'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|10.1.0}}''' | |||
*{{buff|[[Forward aerial]] has received various adjustments that allow the move to connect more reliably:}} | |||
**{{buff|The first hit has been split into ground-only and aerial-only hitboxes, with the aerial-only hitbox having less base knockback (90 → 50).}} | |||
**{{buff|Two of the looping hits' hitboxes (ID 2 and 3) have altered displacements (Y-offset: -3.8—-6.2 → -5.8—-6.2), extend further during the last two frames (X-offset: 1.7—8 → 1.7—10), and now send at an [[autolink angle]] throughout their entirety (115° (frames 11-18)/36 (frames 19-20) → 366° (frames 11-20)).}} | |||
**{{buff|Three of the looping hits' hitboxes (ID 2, 3 and 4) have less base knockback (36/36/72 → 20/20/60).}} | |||
**{{buff|One of the looping hits' hitboxes is smaller (ID 1: 4.0u → 3.5u). While this technically reduces the move's range close to Rosalina, it allows the hitboxes with the autolink angles to connect more consistently.}} | |||
**{{buff|The final hit is larger (8.0u → 9.0u).}} | |||
==Hitboxes== | ==Hitboxes== | ||
===Rosalina=== | ===Rosalina=== | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Multihits (early)|50}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
| Line 13: | Line 28: | ||
|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle=70 | |angle=70 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=90 | |bk=90 | ||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
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|sfx=Magic | |sfx=Magic | ||
|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
|a=f | |||
}} | }} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=1 | |id=1 | ||
|rehit=3 | |rehit=3 | ||
|damage=1.0% | |||
|angle=70 | |||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=50 | |||
|ks=10 | |||
|fkv=0 | |||
|r=5.5 | |||
|bn=footl | |||
|xpos=1.0 | |||
|ypos=-1.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
|ff=0.7 | |||
|sdi=0.5 | |||
|type=Foot | |||
|effect=Magic | |||
|sfx=Magic | |||
|slvl=M | |||
|g=f | |||
}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Multihits (mid)|50}} | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | |||
|id=1 | |||
|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle=36 | |angle=36 | ||
|rehit=3 | |||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=60 | |bk=60 | ||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r= | |r=3.5 | ||
|bn=footl | |bn=footl | ||
|xpos=-2.5 | |xpos=-2.5 | ||
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|rehit=3 | |rehit=3 | ||
|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle= | |angle=366 | ||
|bk= | |af=3 | ||
|bk=20 | |||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
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|bn=footl | |bn=footl | ||
|xpos=1.7 to 8.0 | |xpos=1.7 to 8.0 | ||
|ypos=- | |ypos=-5.8 to -6.2 | ||
|zpos=-2.0 | |zpos=-2.0 | ||
|ff=0.7 | |ff=0.7 | ||
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|rehit=3 | |rehit=3 | ||
|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle= | |angle=366 | ||
|bk= | |af=3 | ||
|bk=20 | |||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
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|bn=footl | |bn=footl | ||
|xpos=1.7 to 8.0 | |xpos=1.7 to 8.0 | ||
|ypos=- | |ypos=-5.8 to -6.2 | ||
|zpos=2.0 | |zpos=2.0 | ||
|ff=0.7 | |ff=0.7 | ||
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{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=4 | |id=4 | ||
|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle=100 | |angle=100 | ||
|bk= | |rehit=3 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=60 | |||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
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|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle=86 | |angle=86 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=90 | |bk=90 | ||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
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|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Multihits (late)| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Multihits (late)|50}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=1 | |id=1 | ||
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|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle=36 | |angle=36 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=60 | |bk=60 | ||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r= | |r=3.5 | ||
|bn=footl | |bn=footl | ||
|xpos=-2.5 | |xpos=-2.5 | ||
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|rehit=3 | |rehit=3 | ||
|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle= | |angle=366 | ||
|bk= | |af=3 | ||
|bk=20 | |||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=1.5 | |r=1.5 | ||
|bn=footl | |bn=footl | ||
|xpos=1.7 to | |xpos=1.7 to 10.0 | ||
|ypos=- | |ypos=-5.8 to -6.2 | ||
|zpos=-2.0 | |zpos=-2.0 | ||
|ff=0.7 | |ff=0.7 | ||
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|rehit=3 | |rehit=3 | ||
|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle= | |angle=366 | ||
|bk= | |af=3 | ||
|bk=20 | |||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r=1.5 | |r=1.5 | ||
|bn=footl | |bn=footl | ||
|xpos=1.7 to | |xpos=1.7 to 10.0 | ||
|ypos=- | |ypos=-5.8 to -6.2 | ||
|zpos=2.0 | |zpos=2.0 | ||
|ff=0.7 | |ff=0.7 | ||
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|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle=100 | |angle=100 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=72 | |bk=72 | ||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
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|damage=1.0% | |damage=1.0% | ||
|angle=86 | |angle=86 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=90 | |bk=90 | ||
|ks=10 | |ks=10 | ||
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|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Final hit| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Final hit|50}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=4.0% | |damage=4.0% | ||
|angle=361 | |angle=361 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|bk=50 | |bk=50 | ||
|ks=132 | |ks=132 | ||
|fkv=0 | |fkv=0 | ||
|r= | |r=9.0 | ||
|bn=footl | |bn=footl | ||
|xpos=6.0 | |xpos=6.0 | ||
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}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Luma=== | ===Luma=== | ||
If Luma has been separated via [[Luma Shot]], the hitboxes have their damage multiplied by 1.5×, which is ignored for [[knockback]] calculation. | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|50}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=68 | |angle=68 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|setweight=t | |||
|bk=85 | |bk=85 | ||
|ks=25 | |ks=25 | ||
| Line 280: | Line 334: | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=73 | |angle=73 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|setweight=t | |||
|bk=75 | |bk=75 | ||
|ks=20 | |ks=20 | ||
| Line 295: | Line 351: | ||
|g=f | |g=f | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit| | {{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit|50}} | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=70 | |angle=70 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|setweight=t | |||
|bk=85 | |bk=85 | ||
|ks=25 | |ks=25 | ||
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|damage=3.0% | |damage=3.0% | ||
|angle=75 | |angle=75 | ||
|af=3 | |||
|setweight=t | |||
|bk=75 | |bk=75 | ||
|ks=20 | |ks=20 | ||
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}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Timing== | ==Timing== | ||
===Rosalina=== | ===Rosalina=== | ||
The move enables ledge grabs from both sides starting on frame 79. | |||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
!Initial autocancel | !Initial autocancel | ||
|1-3 | |1-3 | ||
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!Multihits (early, mid, late) | |||
|10, 11-18, 19-20 (rehit rate: 3) | |||
!Multihits (early, late) | |||
|11-18, 19-20 | |||
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!Final hit | !Final hit | ||
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!Interruptible | !Interruptible | ||
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!Animation length | !Animation length | ||
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{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=9}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=8|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c= | {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=9}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=8|s=HitboxChangeE|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=31}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=29}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
{{FrameStrip|t=Autocancel|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=46}}{{FrameStrip|t=Autocancel|c=34}} | {{FrameStrip|t=Autocancel|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=46}}{{FrameStrip|t=Autocancel|c=34}} | ||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
===Luma=== | ===Luma=== | ||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
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!Interruptible | !Interruptible | ||
| | |55 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Animation length | !Animation length | ||
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{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=10}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c= | {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=10}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=41}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=17}} | ||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
===Landing lag=== | ===Landing lag=== | ||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
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!Animation length | !Animation length | ||
| | |25 | ||
|} | |} | ||
{{FrameStripStart}} | {{FrameStripStart}} | ||
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c= | {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=16}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=9}} | ||
{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|autocancel=y|interruptible=y}} | {{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|autocancel=y|interruptible=y}} | ||
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Overview[edit]
Update History[edit]
Rosalina can grab ledges faster after using forward aerial.
- Forward aerial's hits connect more reliably.
- Forward aerial has less ending lag (FAF 60 → 55).
- Rosalina can grab ledges faster after using forward aerial (84 frames → 79).
- Forward aerial has received various adjustments that allow the move to connect more reliably:
- The first hit has been split into ground-only and aerial-only hitboxes, with the aerial-only hitbox having less base knockback (90 → 50).
- Two of the looping hits' hitboxes (ID 2 and 3) have altered displacements (Y-offset: -3.8—-6.2 → -5.8—-6.2), extend further during the last two frames (X-offset: 1.7—8 → 1.7—10), and now send at an autolink angle throughout their entirety (115° (frames 11-18)/36 (frames 19-20) → 366° (frames 11-20)).
- Three of the looping hits' hitboxes (ID 2, 3 and 4) have less base knockback (36/36/72 → 20/20/60).
- One of the looping hits' hitboxes is smaller (ID 1: 4.0u → 3.5u). While this technically reduces the move's range close to Rosalina, it allows the hitboxes with the autolink angles to connect more consistently.
- The final hit is larger (8.0u → 9.0u).
Hitboxes[edit]
Rosalina[edit]
| ID | Part | Rehit rate | Damage | SD | Angle | Angle type | BK | KS | FKV | Set weight | Radius | Bone | Offset | H× | SDI× | T% | Clang | Rebound | Effect | Type | G | A | Sound | Direct | Hit bits | Hit part | Blockable | Reflectable | Absorbable | Flinchless | No GFX | Heedless | |||||||||||||||||
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| 0 | 0 | 3 | 1.0% | 0 |  |
Forward | 90 | 10 | 0 |  |
5.5 | footl | 1.0 | -1.0 | 0.0 | 0.7× | 0.5× | 0% |  |
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5.8 | footl | 6.0 | -1.0 | 0.0 | 0.7× | 0.5× | 0% | |
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4.5 | footl | 3.0 | 6.5 | 0.0 | 0.7× | 0.5× | 0% | |
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Forward | 60 | 10 | 0 | |
3.5 | footl | -2.5 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 0.7× | 0.5× | 0% | |
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1.5 | footl | 1.7 to 10.0 | -5.8 to -6.2 | -2.0 | 0.7× | 0.5× | 0% | |
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5.8 | footl | 6.0 | -1.0 | 0.0 | 0.7× | 0.5× | 0% | |
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4.5 | footl | 3.0 | 6.5 | 0.0 | 0.7× | 0.5× | 0% | |
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Forward | 50 | 132 | 0 | |
9.0 | footl | 6.0 | 1.0 | 0.0 | 1.5× | 1.0× | 0% | |
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Luma[edit]
If Luma has been separated via Luma Shot, the hitboxes have their damage multiplied by 1.5×, which is ignored for knockback calculation.
| ID | Part | Rehit rate | Damage | SD | Angle | Angle type | BK | KS | FKV | Set weight | Radius | Bone | Offset | H× | SDI× | T% | Clang | Rebound | Effect | Type | G | A | Sound | Direct | Hit bits | Hit part | Blockable | Reflectable | Absorbable | Flinchless | No GFX | Heedless | |||||||||||||||||
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| 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.0% | 0 |  |
Forward | 85 | 25 | 0 |  |
4.0 | hip | 5.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.5× | 1.0× | 0% | |
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Forward | 75 | 20 | 0 | |
4.0 | hip | 5.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.5× | 1.0× | 0% | |
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Forward | 85 | 25 | 0 | |
4.0 | hip | 5.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.5× | 1.0× | 0% | |
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Timing[edit]
Rosalina[edit]
The move enables ledge grabs from both sides starting on frame 79.
| Initial autocancel | 1-3 |
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| Multihits (early, mid, late) | 10, 11-18, 19-20 (rehit rate: 3) |
| Final hit | 22-23 |
| Ending autocancel | 50- |
| Interruptible | 55 |
| Animation length | 83 |
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| Early hit | 11-12 |
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| Late hit | 13 |
| Interruptible | 55 |
| Animation length | 71 |
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Landing lag[edit]
| Interruptible | 17 |
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| Animation length | 25 |
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Lag time |
Hitbox |
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