User talk:Zeckemyro

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--Penro 20:18, 5 December 2017 (EST)

Impressive work on the mass uploads, by the way! --Penro 20:18, 5 December 2017 (EST)

Requesting a certain gif[edit]

I'm trying to do the move page for Marth's default down special, Counter. I was referred to you to ask for the gif to put on the page, one like this ZombieZlayer (talk) 01:04, 14 January 2018 (EST)


This isn't really a problem right now, but I shall remind you that you should use the "show preview" button located next to the "save page" button to keep track of your edits. Thanks! St. Reggie, the Iron Leprachaun Warrior 00:47, 3 March 2018 (EST)

Hitbox gifs?[edit]

So Cookies and Creme has led me here. I want to help upload gifs of hitboxes, so how do you do it? SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 18:32, April 10, 2020 (EDT)

What files need to be uploaded that aren't already up on the wiki? Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 00:09, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
Not Daniel, but a lot of the ledge and floor attack hitboxes are missing for Ultimate. Disaster Flare Changing my signature finally. (talk) 00:12, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
Yes, I didn't do them alongside more useful moves. The main deal with getup attacks to me how generic they are. They're extremely simple and have universal interruptibility. I usually only did them on request. If someone wants me to do them all I'm more than happy to. Add me on Discord (Zeckemyro#9776) and we can go through every character in order. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 00:21, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
I'll likely be contacting you about it in the near future. The wiki needs them so my intention is to get them at some point in the near future. Focused on other things at the moment so it won't be a tonight thing, but still. Disaster Flare Changing my signature finally. (talk) 00:24, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
Thanks so much, Zeckemyro! I have requests on hitbox gifs below. Please take your time to upload them.

Mario (SSBU); neutral and down specials. All getup attacks. Ledge attack. Squirtle (SSBB); neutral attack. All tilts. All aerials. Grab. Pummel.

No rush, just wanna give you request! Thanks! SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 01:44, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
I can't do SSBB hitboxes unfortunately. I just don't have enough resources to do so. As for SSBU stuff, you can contact me via Discord whenever you want. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 01:47, April 11, 2020 (EDT)

Indent restarted. Sorry, but I don’t use discord. Luckily, we could use our talk pages. SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 13:55, April 11, 2020 (EDT)

I made and uploaded Mario's getup attacks. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 15:55, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
Great! Try Final Smashes too if it’s not too hard. Also, try uploading Mario’s neutral and down specials, then we can call his hitbox page complete! SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 16:46, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
Here's the issue. Mario's neutral special, down special and Final Smash are all projectiles. Final smash in particular is impossible to visualize accurately. I can actually make still visuals of Mario's Fireball and F.L.U.D.D. water next to him simply to compare size. Due to the complexity of their parameters, I can't actually animate them since projectiles have to be done manually, frame by frame. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 17:16, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
I understand. For now, do what you think is feasible for yourself. SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 17:55, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
There we are. This is the best I can do with the resources I have. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 18:33, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
Okay then. Do you know anybody who has resources to do projectile hitbox gifs? SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 20:01, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
I am the only one capable of doing so. The issue is that Fireballs and FLUDD's water don't have proper models. They use special effects. The thing is that those moves have complicated movement patterns that makes them pretty much impossible to visualize properly. Fireball alone needs to account for gravity, bouncing off the ground, losing height for every bounce and all of that. Doing 70 frames manually by hand would be WAY too tedious and honestly not that useful in the long run especially when you consider the fireball interacts differently with the ground depending at what height it makes contact with it. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 20:10, April 11, 2020 (EDT)

Good job![edit]

Thanks for all your hard work uploading hitbox gifs! I appreciate it! SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 13:37, April 15, 2020 (EDT)

Nice work! Your contributions reflect the kind of awesome work we SmashWikidians like to see!
Adding on to this to give you a shining star! Great job with all of this! Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer (talk) 13:39, April 15, 2020 (EDT)


Mr. Zeckemyro, I’m terribly, terribly, terribly sorry about the hitbox pages. I thought the gifs were enough! I’m so sorry!!! SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 01:42, April 28, 2020 (EDT)

Look, you were told before that it wasn't enough and it's not the first time pages you created had to be deleted. Just stop doing that and it's all fine. Also please don't start an apology with "Mr. [User]"; that sounds like you're not taking things seriously. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 01:49, April 28, 2020 (EDT)


Hi, I'm interested in trying Discord. Do you prefer talking to me in voice chat, or something like text messages? Also, where do you get the scripts for the games? Thanks in advance. SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 13:17, April 28, 2020 (EDT)

Join the wiki's discord. You can find it on the bar to the left. Then from there you can send me direct messages. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 20:39, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
Thanks. I’ll consider. SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 20:53, April 28, 2020 (EDT)

SSB64 hitboxes[edit]

Hey Zeck, quick question. If you couldn't find the scripts for SSB64 or Melee, then who put in the current hitboxes from those games? SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 14:58, May 4, 2020 (EDT)

I don't know, look at who uploaded those files. Me being unable to find the files doesn't mean nobody can. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 18:21, May 4, 2020 (EDT)
So I looked at who uploaded the hitbox files. Scr7 (talkcontribslogs) uploaded the 64 files, while Super64 (talkcontribslogs) uploaded files for Melee. Do you know any of those people? SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 23:05, May 4, 2020 (EDT)
I mean, do you think Scr7 or Super64 are currently active? I could ask them where they got the scripts. SonDanielAn icon for my signature.A signature head icon. (talk page) 23:08, May 4, 2020 (EDT)
Super64 is definitely active. They made pages for Melee and Brawl recently. Don't know about the other, though. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 23:13, May 4, 2020 (EDT)

Byleth's Down-B Hitbox.[edit]

Hi Zeckemyro, I watched this video called "Every Character's WORST move! part 3/3 - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate" by PJiggles. When Byleth comes onto the spotlight at around 28 minutes and 28 seconds, his worst move is Down-B and the text on the top left corner says hitbox may be innacurate. My question is is this the most accurate hitbox image or is the hitbox image correct? S3AHAWK said ketchup wonTo use for signature if Ketchup winsKetchup signature 15:15, June 2, 2020 (EDT)

When I made the visual, I had doubts about its accuracy because of badly gathered data from other sources. Most of them misreported the active frames. However, the visual I made is the real deal. The video was made before I had the information changed on UFD, where PJiggles took the hitboxes from. The Aymr visual is correct. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 16:10, June 2, 2020 (EDT)
Awesome, thanks for your help.S3AHAWK said ketchup wonTo use for signature if Ketchup winsKetchup signature 16:23, June 2, 2020 (EDT)


I think you got Greninja's floor attacks animations mixed up. Raul Retana (talk) 11:04, July 22, 2020 (EDT)

You're right, I didn't notice at all. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 11:58, July 22, 2020 (EDT)
Also, I think you might need to redo Ness' down smash's visual. Turns out there's one more hitbox (it's the 90º one). I haven't touched the timing but I assume it's also wrong Raul Retana (talk) 17:53, July 22, 2020 (EDT)
Actually that hitbox never happens. The 90° hitbox is deleted on the frame it's supposed to happen. The attack_module_clear_all command runs AFTER the hitbox, which deletes it immediately. Trust me I double checked on that. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 20:52, July 22, 2020 (EDT)
Ok, thanks for clarifying. I wonder what it would've done if it didn't get deleted. Raul Retana (talk) 06:12, July 23, 2020 (EDT)
Likely just an extra hit. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 15:27, July 23, 2020 (EDT)

Plasma Breath[edit]

I checked the ridley weak point thing, and yh I was wrong, but it is used by kraid and crocomire, plus a recurring theme in other games. If I reword it so as not to state ridley himself has that same weakness in super metroid, would it be ok to add? Pallukun (talk) 14:50, August 17, 2020 (EDT)

The reference is clearly taken from the Prime series. I don't think one major non-Ridley boss and a mini-boss having that as a weak point in Super Metroid is enough to warrant a listing on Plasma Breath.