User talk:KoRoBeNiKi

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Hi there![edit]


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I'm really happy to have you here, and look forward to working with you!

Richard 20:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

This feels so different now than before. Ive been here for a long time when it used to not even have most attacks per character. Hmm probably me for over a year or 2. Thanks to everyone who has helped. Kudos to Woz and TSA, my favorite crew and my crew PPS. long live Smash Wiki, combined or not. KoRoBeNiKi

Grandfather Turnips[edit]

Don't remake pages that have been deleted. FyreNWater - (TalkContributions ) 05:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


That might be because he is taking a break from it. He is still the best Marth player, M2K in second, but it is very close. Most people still know Ken is the World Champion, thats a title that cant be taken away easily. JtM =^] (talk) 03:20, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I understand my Sonic is legendary, but I didn't participate in any big tournament recently, but were you the one that i was going against with SJ? If not, we hould brawl sometime. ~Teh Blue Blur~~You're too slow!~ 10:57, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

A little heads-up[edit]

Edits like this one could be seen as vandalism or a personal attack on the smasher in question - I presume it was just teasing, but please try to be more encyclopedic when editing. Thanks, RAN1 01:13, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Message[edit]

Hi KoRoBeNiKi. What did you mean by chat on the last article I made?GEmini-Hero Duelist 07:55, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


Hey. Due to large amounts of ridiculousness, I have decided to remove your rollback rights. I personally refused to continue arguing due to the aforementioned ridiculousness, and since other users who also supported you chose not to post for a variety of stupid reasons I no longer felt giving you rollback was warranted. I am truly sorry; I still feel that rollback would not be wasted on you, and I hope you will try again in the future once people with bad reasoning will support you and those with good reasoning aren't too busy being terrible to defend you.

Best of luck,

Shadowcrest 20:01, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Um, we might undo the undoing. I'm going to work on this. RAN is being an idiot, you're probably the best contributor on this whole damn website, and it's a shame to see someone who gums up the works with inanities that stink like Osama Bin Laden's buttcrack pull down someone who actually tries to improve this site. I might be part troll...scratch that, I might be mostly troll, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to let some twerp trample on someone who tries. I'm going to get on this. Semicolon (talk) 23:18, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

take two[edit]

I've restored your rollback, as the wiki seems to have stopped being stupid about it. Of course, be sure to familiarize yourself with the rollback policy.


Shadowcrest 01:04, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

You heard of this guy?[edit]


Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 19:48, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Character matchups (SSB)[edit]

Actually, the matchup chart we already had is completely identical to the one you posted (in terms of the actual matchups). It just doesn't look it because the the different character order. The only differences are:

  1. The one we already had is in the order of the tier list, like one would expect.
  2. The one we already had is bigger and easier to read.
  3. The one we already had is consistent with the SSBM and SSBB matchup tables.

So, unless you can give me a huge advantage of your version that I'm not seeing, I'll soon be putting the one we already had back. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 22:17, 31 October 2010 (EDT)

Ness (SSB)[edit]

While Mr. Anon also responded on his talk page (as he should have), you said you want an explanation on your talk page. Well, here it is:

  • Explaining Ness' tier position in as much detail as you put in (especially the bits about different regions) is not necessary. One or two sentences will suffice. As things stand now, we don't go into the minutiae of tiers.
  • The idea of an "important notes before reading below" section is, to be frank, dumb. Splitting an article up in such a way is never necessary.
  • It was agreed a while ago that having an attributes section is better than having a pros/cons section.

Now, I'm not going to say I agree with your edit being simply undone. But you could have added the info you wanted to add without changing the structure of the article. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 18:59, 24 November 2010 (EST)

Welcome back![edit]

Nice to see that you're back. While you were gone I've been the sole contributer to SSB64 info. Nice that I now have someone to help. Mr. Anon (talk)`

Would it be legal for me to get Smash 64 for an emulator since I already own the game through VC? And if so, what would be a good emulator and ROM to get? And how do you play online on an emulator? Mr. Anon (talk) 16:37, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
Thank you! This was very helpful and I will probably download Smash 64 as soon as I can! I also plan on joining the Smash 64 community! Mr. Anon (talk) 22:31, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

When someone leaves you a message on your talk page[edit]

Respond to them here rather than the other person's talk page, so that the conversation is kept in one place. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 09:46, 2 May 2011 (EDT)

Wanna play Smash 64[edit]

Do you want to play me online now? Mr. Anon (talk) 13:19, 7 May 2011 (EDT)

What the f-[edit]

what's manliness tier? if it's the worst, then why do you put luigi in both manliness and s rank?Lucas-IV- Paper TosserLucas kirby.jpg 10:43, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

Well, Luigi is my best character (along with Marth and Falco which is why they are in S)...but look at Luigi otherwise. Look at his other games, it's either him or Link for least. --LoS PPS KoRos (talk) 19:46, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

Heed the message I left earlier, users are expected to respond to comments on their talk page on the same page, and not on the other person's talk page. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 20:25, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

Hey KoRo[edit]

Instead of putting "This stage is banned in Japan." on every stage article other than Dream Land, can you say why each stage is banned? It seems odd that only Dream Land isn't banned, and I think people would be interested to know why. PenguinofDeath 11:53, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Welcome back[edit]

Hey Koro. Nice to see you back to editing. Now that PoD is also back, I guess we can start improving the SSB64 articles a lot in general, to make them look more like their counterparts in the other games. Want to meet with me on IRC to discuss some ideas? Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 20:44, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Multiple edits[edit]

Just a note, you should try and use the preview button when making large amounts of contributions to a page, and try to limit the total number of edits. This way, recent changes isn't filled up with as many changes. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 11:52, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

Pay attention to how the edits were made. They weren't from lack of preview button, but from editing section by section. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:04, 9 September 2012 (EDT)
Sorry, haven't used this forum in a while. I did change eventually and edited the entirety. I was originally not going to add in the Japanese/UTSC smash comparison but then I found it to be a useful edit. Whoops forgot my sig --LoS PPS KoRos (talk) 12:05, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

Not sure if you know or not[edit]

But there is a talk page for the M2K page. We've been using it for a while. Should check on that. Here's a link. Yah. MegaTron1XDDecepticon.png 00:15, 24 June 2014 (EDT)

I realize that there is a section for it but the majority of the stuff I see there is flaming to be honest. It can be mentioned that type of stuff happened but honestly, in the last year, or maybe 2 years, he has changed dramatically.
I don't mind my stuff being redacted, just it should be edited so it is not nearly as hateful. Either this or it should note on top that his issues have in many ways been null as of early 2013.
Sorry forgot to sign

--- LoS PPS KoRos (talk) 00:20, 24 June 2014 (EDT)

We've been working on making the Japan section sound less hateful for...a day or two by now. Give it a bit more time to undergo a better rework. MegaTron1XDDecepticon.png 00:22, 24 June 2014 (EDT)
Sounds like a plan. But honestly, it should be pretty small. LoS PPS KoRos (talk) 00:26, 24 June 2014 (EDT)
As a future note, keep talk page conversations on the same page. I don't know how other Wikis do it, but here at Smash Wiki, we prefer having the convos on the same page so that we can just read the entire thing in one sitting, rather than jump back and forth. MegaTron1XDDecepticon.png 00:29, 24 June 2014 (EDT)

I know how this site works, I am a rollback person after all. I just forgot from the previous timess. -- LoS PPS KoRos (talk) 13:44, 24 June 2014 (EDT)

Japanese tier list[edit]

I was actually wondering what the Japanese SSB64 tier list looks like? Dots (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The User 18:07, 6 March 2015 (EST)

It's this: or SSB64_Japanese_matchup_chart.png for their version. They use the matchup list as their tier list (basically) --LoS PPS KoRos (talk) 02:11, 7 March 2015 (EST)
Lol, Pikachu is much better than everyone else in this version. So basically matchups determine the tier list? Dots (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The Lamp 08:26, 7 March 2015 (EST)
Sorry haven't been on in a bit. In this case, yeah. It's more also that they never really decided to do one, so they use this as their tier list. I kind of prefer this also. Also, their top player is a Samus main so there is some interesting things here. Basically people use almost all characters (a whole lot of Falcon, Kirby, Pikachu, Yoshi, Fox, Mario a bit less of Link, Ness, Jiggs, and basically no one uses Luigi and less than no one uses DK. --LoS PPS KoRos (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2015 (EDT)

Ness' SSB64 hitboxes[edit]

What version of the game are you basing your recent edits on? My SSB64 hitbox spreadsheet (based on NTSC-U) says that Ness' dash attack deals either 12 or 9 damage, his f-tilt does 11/10/9 based on angling, and both are the Sakurai angle (therefore not a semi-spike), all of which conflict with what you've added lately. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Emissary 13:21, 25 March 2015 (EDT)

....Oh dang it, I had an old version of the Hitbox chat, I just checked. I expected myself to have the most recent version but nope, this is one from 2010 it seems and I never updated it. Sorry. --PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 13:23, 25 March 2015 (EDT)

Rate this tier list[edit]

I made a Smash 64 tier list and I was wondering if it is accurate or not. This list is just in my opinion. Dots (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The Unexpected 13:55, 28 March 2015 (EDT)

I like the top 5/6/7 a lot. There have been many arguments recently putting Yoshi that much higher. Arguments regarding Falcon are a bit harder though due to LD/TR3G-Fox putting in so much work (showing that Fox is quite good on DL) and Boom switching off Falcon then also. Otherwise, I personally have some small bias with the bottom/lower tier, mostly Link being a bit too high for Dreamland.

Also, Pikachu isn't that much better than Kirby to warrant a completely different tier. Pika is no where near Meta/Diddy in terms of matchups. I also think B-tier is too heavy. Maybe if it was still this order (sorry for the bad wiki formatting)


  1. Pikachu
  2. Kirby


  1. Captain Falcon
  2. Fox
  3. Yoshi
  4. Mario


  1. Jigglypuff
  2. Donkey Kong
  3. Link


  1. Ness
  2. Luigi
  3. Samus

--PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 09:17, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

Lowercase title[edit]

It looks like you're working on a number of pages for Japanese smashers whose tags start with a lower-case letter in English. In situations like that, you can use {{lowercase}} rather than making an extra note, as is done on pages like amiibo or Smasher:nealdt. Miles (talk) 12:32, 1 June 2015 (EDT)

I'm currently making ones for a lot of other smashers from Japan who are lowercase, do I put it down as {{lowercase}} on the top of the page or where? --PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 12:36, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
Yeah, anywhere works. Easiest to put it at the top for clarity, though. Miles (talk) 12:40, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
Got it, thanks (Oh these names and all of their lowercase, outside of Kysk who is soon to be added and a few others--PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 12:41, 1 June 2015 (EDT)

Your smasher page[edit]

I'm okay with the changes you made for the most part, but there's a couple things I'd like to adress:

  • Why refer to SmashWiki as ssbwiki (all lowercase)?
    • Building on that, the slash kind of makes the page look more like notes.
  • You might want to put the Project M online controller sentence in a trivia section, maybe with the Smash 4 point. They just kind of feel a bit minor compared to the rest of the page.

Other than that, the page looks great! Nyargleblargle (Talk) 11:08, 3 June 2015 (EDT)

I would like to put it under trivia, but this site has something against trivia. I forgot about changing it to the proper wiki. I think it is also since when I see SmashWiki, I think of the inactive SuperSmashBrosWiki. --PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 11:11, 3 June 2015 (EDT)
It shouldn't be too much of a problem. Other smasher pages are allowed to have them, so why not yours? Thanks for the prompt response. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 11:14, 3 June 2015 (EDT)
Hi, as Nyargle mentioned back in the first part, I think ssbwiki could be changed to SmashWiki, as that is the official name. If both of you are okay with that, go ahead and do it! Amiibae signature image.pngLuke Talk::: 11:31, 3 June 2015 (EDT)

Question about Smasherx74[edit]

Since you're the resident longtime Smash 64 expert, I would like to ask you about this guy. How much contribution has he actually done to Project 64K, and is it overall notable to the Smash 64 scene? Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 11:35, 13 November 2015 (EST) Wasn't expecting this to be here when I came back. The article itself is actually very accurate. He's made a lot of contributions to Project 64K, more specifically helping to run the server and being an admin. He was/is a member for a very long time. It sounds like a vanity article but in all honesty it's a 64 article.

He's one of the earliest smash 64 Kailera players. I'd uhh keep the article loll. Whoops, haven't been here in a while. --PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 16:43, 18 November 2015 (EST)

Smash 64[edit]

Since you are the only one of the few pro Smash 64 players around here and i only watched it a couple of times (because of Boom), what is your opinion on who the best Smash 64 player is? PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the Pumpkin Pie 09:46, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

From uhh closest to furthest away, in terms of a general short order, wario/Jousuke, Boom, Fukuruou (though he has never come the US, the fact that he has stayed even/almost won vs. wario is shocking and scary,) KeroKeroppi, Isai, wangera. I guess. The Genesis 3 results really shows who was playing well though some matchups were much better for certain people (like LD or someone always struggling vs. certain people.

USA: KeroKeroppi (Pikachu, Falcon,) Tacos (Yoshi, Kirby,) LD (Fox,) Wizzrobe (Yoshi,) Fireblaster (Yoshi, Mario,) and Isai (IDK, lol) somewhere in there. KeroKeroppi is the definite best in the USA, at least if Isai keeps on being rusty though Kero might just plain be better than Isai as well otherwise. Tacos is the most likely 3rd. If LD didn't john/practiced enough, I would put him above Wizzy.

Canada: SuperBoomFan (Falcon/Pika/random) The Z (Pikachu, Fox, Falcon,) Revan (Kirby,) YBOMBB (Jiggles,) (that order, period, shoutouts to The Z for going from ridiculously technical to just plain amazing)

Mexico: Mariguas (Pikachu, Falcon) Dexter (Pikachu)/Jaime-HR (Falcon, Pika, Kirby, Samus) (unsure of order, I'd say probably this one as per the most recent results)

Japan: wario (Pikachu)/Jousuke (Samus, everyone,), Fukurou (Kirby,) Moyashi (Kirby,) wangera (Jigglypuff. The rest outside of this are somewhat unknown and somewhat variant due to their single elim events though I usually see some combination of MEGU (Pika,) Bonobono (Yoshi,) MAHA (Pikachu,) and an occasional Ruoka Dancho (Falcon/)Sekerei (Link.) Overall, Japan is slightly stronger than North America with by far the best Kirby mains in the world (sorry Revan,) though they probably overall have worse Pikachus outside of wario and worse Falcons.

Brazil: Banze (Pika,) Kort (Link, Falcon, everyone,) Rith (Pikachu, Falcon,) CabeLo (Fox) (in some order after the definitive Banze and Kort)

Peru: Alvin (Falcon, as per Dreamland switch there, Fox) Gerson (Pikachu,) (unsure of otherwise, haven't seen an event recently)

--PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 10:13, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

In your tier lis (not really) on your page[edit]

You forgot Samus PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 06:58, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Oh thanks, surprised I missed her. --PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 10:17, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Dont worry, also my focus is smash 64 now! PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the God-Slayer 17:50, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Page deletion[edit]

Unfortunately, you cannot have a page deleted simply because you do not like it. It can be requested that personal information (name, location etc) be removed, but not the article itself. Alex the Jigglypuff trainer 12:55, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

Please note that this was a request by him, not me. Removed personal information. Please request a deletion of his image also. --PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 13:00, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

Yeah, that is not appropriate. You cannot just simply delete the whole article. It is not the correct way for deleting. It won't work. Grand Dad.png GRAND DAD Fleenstones!? NiceGrand.jpeg 13:05, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

I know. I adjusted it. He also wants to have the image used there removed from commons.--PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 13:11, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

Well SmashWiki is not commons, so the image could be deleted, but removing an image simply because someone doesn't want it there is censorship, and the wiki is not censored. Alex the Jigglypuff trainer 14:25, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

Images are like real names; if the subject wants it deleted, we allow it. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Aurum 20:15, 1 August 2018 (EDT)


In the future, could you please add tournament results for the Smasher pages you create? Articles like the one you created looks like a no-effort page, and it took me a while to actually find results as well (changing the page to DannySsB accordingly). CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 21:23, September 17, 2019 (EDT)