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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

Rules

  • The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights.
  • Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
  • Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
  • Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week.
  • Post why you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight.
  • You can remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
  • Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants.
  • Place new suggestions at the bottom of the page. If you place them at the top, they may be lost.
  • Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
  • The comments section is to be used for relevant comments.
  • Check this list to view the fights that have been done; currently no repeat fights are permitted.
  • Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once.
  • In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. Reposting it after time has passed is generally a bad idea, since if it's already in the queue it's a waste of time, and if it was rejected the first time chances are it will remain that way. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
  • Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
  • Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
  • If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
  • And finally, do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.

Queue

The current queue is as such:

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Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.

When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.

The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

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Suggestions

Volt Tackle vs. Super Sonic

They are deadly, spedy, have awful handling, cause problem when ended under the main platform, have a connection to lightning (well, not really), and both are Final Smash too! Which one will gain victory? The lightning speed hedgehog, or the lightning covered Pokemon? Kirbythe Warpstr.jpg Amazing 09:51, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. I think that they are both similar. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 11:26, 24 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. My reason is Solar Dragon's, as well as below if more are added. Mastersword (talk) 00:40, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. ^ Per the two above me, maybe everyone else at the bottom the the Support section of this fight (if added). --24.11.24.139 18:44, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. I have made comparisons of these two final smashes before. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:50, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. Why the hell would anyone oppose this? Mr. Anon (talk) 21:09, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  6. Good idea! I don't see why not!--98.157.99.36 15:42, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  7. awesome idea68.197.115.28 16:28, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  8. Can't see why not. 110.174.90.69 02:53, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  9. This could work. In essence, the two final smashes are fairly similar. Fuddlebob (talk) 06:41, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
  10. Better then beforeLucas-IV- Paper TosserLucas kirby.jpg 09:21, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. You can easily slow down Super Sonic while experienced people can control Volt Tackle with ease. In addition, Super Sonic can easily ko while the other is meant for damage racking. MegaTron1XD:p 09:56, 24 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. I avoided Volt Tackle completely with Pokemon Change. Which means Volt Tackle isn't deadly. Mastergameandwatch (talk) 14:34, 24 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. They're both crap. There. HavocReaper 19:02, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Luigi vs. Captain Falcon

So, I was looking through the Fight Statistics, and I realised that these two characters had both won every one of the 5 rounds they had been in. Other than that, there's not much tying these two together, really. Feel free to reject this idea if you want. Fuddlebob (talk) 03:52, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. I like the idea of two who are undefeated in the Smash Arena being paired up for a matchup to decide the Smash Arena king. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:50, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. Same as above. -Ivy73002MS.png 18:53, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. I agree. HavocReaper 19:02, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. Look up for reason. Kirbythe Warpstr.jpg Amazing 20:22, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. Who is the arenas king?68.197.115.28 16:28, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  6. There is actually quite a lot tying these two characters together. Both are unlockable characters in SSB and SSBB. Both have (to say at the least) odd personalities. And both appear as the opponents in that one event match as "unwanted suiters", indicating similar bachelorhood. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:22, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  7. Well in my opinion, these guys are really liked a lot. ..... My life for hire! MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png 17:55, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. The pair have nothing in common, except above and the fact they're both unlockable characters. --24.11.24.139 16:44, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. In the Smash Universe, they have nothing in common. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:54, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. Wut. MegaTron1XD:p 18:47, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. Same reason as the others.--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png Playtime's over! 13:13, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. NO! It would discrimate one and give endless glory to the other. It would ultimately make people vote for the winner in future battles. NO! NO! This counts as my reason, as well as above and below. Mastersword (talk) 02:51, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Triforce Slash vs Great Aether

The final smashes of Link/Toon Link and Ike. Opponents must be in front must be caught in order for the final smashes to properly execute. If caught, Link/Toon Link and Ike will then hit the opponent multiple times and then hit them with a powerful finishing blow. There are more similarities, but these are the important ones. --199.185.67.18 13:10, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. Hmm... Yes.--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png Playtime's over! 13:14, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. I like it. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:22, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. Link's may be able to be used from a far distance but Ike's can trap others in.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 21:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. I like it. YES! Because they both have different advantages. This counts as my reason as well as above and below. Mastersword (talk) 02:53, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. good suggestion68.197.115.28 16:28, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  6. I have made comparisons between them before, and they have their contrasts. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:23, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  7. This is an amazing suggestion. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:23, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  8. A battle between Final Smashes would be awesome. 110.174.90.69 02:53, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  9. I always wondered which one was better. --Thenonexistent (talk) 22:37, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  10. Both are equally fun to use, and equally annoying if you get caught in them. Fuddlebob (talk) 06:41, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
  11. Of course!Lucas-IV- Paper TosserLucas kirby.jpg 09:21, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. links can be used from a far distance--kyle.b talk KirbyHeadSSBB.png 14:00, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. Link's goes to the side. Ike's goes from the top. --24.11.24.139 16:18, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Snake vs Mario

it's another flagship character brawl--kyle.b talk KirbyHeadSSBB.png 13:15, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. Nintendo vs. Konami!--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png Playtime's over! 13:34, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. I guess that it works. However, Snake and Mario haven't appeared in any other games together (to the best of my knowledge) unlike Mario and Sonic. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:18, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. The only remaining 3rd party match. MegaTron1XD:p 17:49, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. good,very interesting68.197.115.28 16:28, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. Mario and Sonic was done. It only seems fair to do this fight too. 110.174.90.69 02:53, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  6. Per the first comment. --24.11.24.139 19:53, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  7. Per the vote above me. Fuddlebob (talk) 06:41, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
  8. Per the vote above me tooLucas-IV- Paper TosserLucas kirby.jpg 09:21, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. eh? Mastergameandwatch (talk) 13:34, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. Nah. No siree. Never. They have NOTHING in common. Mastersword (talk) 02:54, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Comments

well weve had sega vs nintendo, sega vs konami, why not nintendo vs konami--kyle.b talk KirbyHeadSSBB.png 13:38, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

Mushroom: Kingdom vs Flat Zone

Two Melee stages that are based on old Nintendo games.--Ratiosu (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

Support

Oppose

  1. I don't see any similarities at all. Mushroom Kingdom is modernised, Flat zone is not. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:54, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. Mushroom Kingdom isn't as old as other stages in the game. MegaTron1XD:p 17:49, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. No. Mastersword (talk) 02:59, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. Not a big fan of stage fights. 110.174.90.69 02:53, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. Mushroom: Kingdom is more modernized than Flat Zone. --24.11.24.139 19:55, 29 April 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Hey, if anyone can get the time, can somebody remove my suggestion? Its not because everyone thinks its bad, just thought of a new suggestion.--Ratiosu (talk) 18:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

People are free to remove suggestions they have posted. However, you must still wait a week before posting another. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:04, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

Olimar vs. Marth

According to Snake's codecs, Marth, while defending his kingdom, added defeated enemy soldies to his ranks. Olimar harvestes the remains of fallen foes to build his army. Both fought alongside their soldiers for their cause, although Marth's sword is stronger than Olimar's punch. Pitting these two leaders against each other, who will be victorious? Jelloratbob (talk) 21:02, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. The 2-D RPG guy vs the 3d action game guy! Mr. Anon (talk) 22:41, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. Description is good. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:23, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. Two military leaders. Why not? Although, I will point out that Olimar brings his troops in to battle in Brawl, but Marth doesn't. I'm still supporting this though. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:28, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. Might as well. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 15:28, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. I like the idea of military leaders battling it out. Could also work with a few of the other characters. 110.174.90.69 02:53, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  6. I LOVE these dudesLuke5176 (talk) 10:00, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. Sorry, but no. Mastersword (talk) 03:01, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. The two have nothing (or almost nothing) in common. --24.11.24.139 16:37, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. What?--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png Playtime's over! 13:33, 29 April 2011 (EDT)

Comments

You'll have to actually check the original Fire Emblem for those facts about Marth, rather than use Snake's Codec (which has been wrong at times) as a source. Not necessarily saying the Codec is wrong (as I haven't played FE), but you should do research before making claims of comparison. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:38, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

In all Fire Emblem games, there are recruitable characters that are enemies during the battles you recruit them in. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:04, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
OK then. Thanks! Mr. Anon (talk) 22:41, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

Pig King Statue vs. Porky

Porky vs. Porky. Which form is better?68.197.115.28 16:28, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. This is actually a pretty good suggestion. For those of you who haven't played Earthbound or Mother 3, this fight represents a battle between the Porky from the former and the Porky from the latter. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:26, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. I'm just not liking it. MegaTron1XD:p 16:52, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. Again: what?--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png Playtime's over! 13:33, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. Per Shaun's Wiji Dodo's comment. --24.11.24.139 19:23, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. Pig King Statue doesn't make much of an appearance Mastersword (talk) 21:06, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Comments

@Anon, have you forgot who is who? The Pig King statue is the undefeatable statue that has 1,000,000hp and you need a new years eve bomb to destroy it. And Porky, seeing that his name is "Porky" and not "Pokey" would mean it would be the Porky from mother 3, there is no earthbound in this, there is just an undefeatable statue vs an obnoxious kid in a giant spider mech.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 21:57, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Throughout Mother 3, Porky attempts to hide the fact that he has aged impossibly by having all of his idols in New Pork City appear as younger Porky/ Pokey. The Porky Statue is one of these idols, and thus I consider him as (one of) the reference to Earthbound Porky in Mother 3. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:59, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
There isn't a difference to Porky really, apart from the blonde to grey hair and worn out clothes porky looks the same especially when its a statue of just grey colour.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 23:21, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
No. The fact that Porky attempts to make himself young through his public image is a significant part of Mother 3. He specifically mentions "I'm still that old kid inside", referencing his Earthbound appearance. The statue, along with all his other idols in New Pork City, appear similar to his Earthbound appearance. Mr. Anon (talk) 00:01, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
What other idols? The Pig King statue isn't a reference to earthbound, it is just a symbol of how he is still immature, hence the slingshot and book it carries which are not in earthbound.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 01:41, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

Ridley vs. Meta Ridley

Ridley battles himself! Who do YOU like?Luke5176 (talk) 16:41, 27 April 2011 (EDT) 16:38, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. Inb4ohthisisafightbetweenthesamecharacteritsucks! Seriously, this isn't at all like the Hammer vs. Golden Hammer matchup, as one version is not completely superior to the other. I would be very interested in seeing which form of Ridley is seen as superior by the SmashWiki community. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:23, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. Per reason above. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:20, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. Per the vote above me. --24.11.24.139 19:56, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. Mighty dragons of recreationsLucas-IV- Paper TosserLucas kirby.jpg 09:21, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mastersword (talk) 21:07, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. Suggested before, and failed before. MegaTron1XD:p 16:52, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. Didya read the Hammer vs. Golden Hammer fight? "Urm... This reminds me of the Ridley vs. Meta Ridley suggestion... ☆The Solar Dragon☆"-Ivy73002MS.png 18:44, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. Fighting another version of yourself is pointless, especially if it is a stronger version of yourself. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 01:24, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. Its imposable. ..... My life for hire! MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png 17:38, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. This battle seems kind of one-sided. 110.174.90.69 02:53, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  6. Ridley = Meta Ridley.--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png Playtime's over! 13:33, 29 April 2011 (EDT)

Comments

@Megatron1: A failed suggestion can be resuggested, so this suggestion can be made. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:50, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Heck, i once suggest a 'once failed' suggestion too, but at the end i got a lot of supportsLucas-IV- Paper TosserLucas kirby.jpg 09:21, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
Which suggestion was that? Mastersword (talk) 03:08, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

Munchlax vs. Gulpin

Think about it. They are both Pokemon, both eat stuff, and both appear in Brawl! Who wins: the Pokemon that eats items, or the Pokemon that eats characters? BTW this is my first suggestion, so this might get hit with opposes. 24.11.24.139 16:45, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. Munchlax can help at times, so I guess this would work. MegaTron1XD:p 16:52, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  2. nice68.197.115.28 17:25, 27 April 2011 (EDT)
  3. They both eat things, although I hate that Munchlax. Eat my assist trophy you evil little... Saving it for the SA :P ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 15:28, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
  4. Interesting idea. Would make for a cool fight. 110.174.90.69 02:53, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  5. They both eat stuff!--Wolf rulez! WolfHeadSSBB.png Playtime's over! 13:33, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
  6. Yeah, this could work. Fuddlebob (talk) 06:41, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
  7. Both can be annoying, like when you are heading to an Assist trophy, can be like Munhlax eat the Assist trophy, or Gulpin eats YOULucas-IV- Paper TosserLucas kirby.jpg 09:21, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
  8. They're both greedy pokemon who are both annoying. Mastersword (talk) 21:09, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

Comments