King Dedede (SSBU)/Forward smash: Difference between revisions

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Hitbox visualization showing King Dedede's forward smash.

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Overview[edit]

Update History[edit]

3.0.0

Forward smash no longer hits grounded opponents twice. This significantly hinders its shield breaking potential.

8.0.0

Forward smash has had its jostling properties adjusted.

Hitboxes[edit]

ID	Part	Rehit rate	Damage	SD	Angle type	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			H×	SDI×	T%	Sound	Hit bits	Hit part
Early hit
0	0	2	0.0%	0	Forward	0	0	0	3.5	hammer2	-6.0	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%	Punch	All	All
1	0	2	0.0%	0	Forward	0	0	0	3.5	hammer2	-12.5	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%	Punch	All	All
2	0	0	16.0%	4.0	Forward	85	55	0	4.5	hammer2	1.5	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%	Dedede Hit	All	All
The ID 0 and 1 hitboxes lead into the clean hit's sourspot, using a position vector with offsets [16, 2] for 2 frames.
Clean hit
1	0	0	18.5%	4.0	Forward	50	85	0	3.5	hammer1	6.0 to 3.0	-3.0 to -5.0	0.0	0.8×	1.0×	0%	Dedede Hit	All	All
2	0	0	25.0%	4.0	Forward	70	74	0	6.0	hammer2	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%	Dedede Hit	All	All
Late hit
2	0	0	11.0%	0	Forward	100	30	0	8.0	top	0.0	5.0	5.0 to 27.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%	Dedede Hit	All	All

Timing[edit]

Charges between	33-34
Early hit	40-41
Clean hit	42-43
Late hit	44
Interruptible	78
Animation length	95

Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
Lag time	Charge interval	Hitbox	Hitbox change	Interruptible

Trivia[edit]

The clean hit's sweetspot (ID 1) is coded as an extended hitbox despite not being actually extended, which prevents it from interpolating.

King Dedede's moveset

Neutral attack (1 · 2 · inf) · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Forward roll · Back roll · Spot dodge · Air dodge · Techs
Floor attack (front) · Floor getups (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor getups (back) · Floor attack (trip) · Floor getups (trip)
Edge attack · Edge getups
Neutral special · Side special · Up special · Down special · Final Smash

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 [[Category:King Dedede (SSBU)]]
 [[Category:Forward smashes (SSBU)]]

King Dedede (SSBU)/Forward smash: Difference between revisions

Latest revision as of 08:45, December 22, 2022

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