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There are many non playable characters in Smash, such as Assist Trophies, stage hazards, Mii Costumes, characters assisting in a Final Smash, for these we use the [[:Template:Infobox Character General]]. For a few, like bosses, enemies and Poké Ball Pokémon, we use different templates, like [[:Template:Boss]], [[:Template:Infobox Enemy]] and [[:Template:Pokémon]]. Although these characters are no less important than the others, their infoboxes contain less information for whatever reason (I assume as a carryover from when most of them were Smash originals).  
There are many non playable characters in Smash, such as Assist Trophies, stage hazards, Mii Costumes, characters assisting in a Final Smash, for these we use the [[:Template:Infobox Character General]]. For a few, like bosses, enemies and Poké Ball Pokémon, we use different templates, like [[:Template:Boss]], [[:Template:Infobox Enemy]] and [[:Template:Pokémon]]. Although these characters are no less important than the others, their infoboxes contain less information for whatever reason (I assume as a carryover from when most of them were Smash originals).  


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# '''Support''' Enemies, bosses, and Pokémon are still "characters" to some degree, so there's really no reason to not give them stuff such as debut game or console of debut. [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 20:58, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
# '''Support''' Enemies, bosses, and Pokémon are still "characters" to some degree, so there's really no reason to not give them stuff such as debut game or console of debut. [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 20:58, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
# '''Support''' [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 21:14, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
# '''Support''' [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 21:14, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
# '''Fine by me''' <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:10, March 29, 2021 (EDT)
#'''Support''' No reason to decline this by me. [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Omega Toad|<font color="deepskyblue">Omegα Toαd,</font>]] [[User talk:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">the Toαd Wαrrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Omega Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(I'm the best!)</font>]]''' 18:56, March 29, 2021 (EDT)
#'''Support''' Same as above, no reason not to. <font color="red">Preceding comment that was ptotally signed by [[user:CaptainDabsalot|CaptainDabsalot]] ([[user talk:CaptainDabsalot|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/CaptainDabsalot|Contribs]])</font> 12:51, March 30, 2021 (EDT)
#'''Support''' --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 09:47, February 23, 2022 (EST)
#'''Support''' [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 06:58, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
#'''Support''' per above. There's no reason the aforementioned characters should lack those parameters on their pages. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool 🦊Furry🦊 Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 09:12, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
#'''Support''' as well. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 05:15, June 17, 2022 (EDT)


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Overall I support the concept, but would it perhaps be better, at least for the bosses which lean more towards being specific characters rather than generic enemy species, to simply switch them to the standard Infobox Character General and ditch the boss infobox altogether? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:44, April 9, 2021 (EDT)
:The boss infobox has two relevant parameters (Points worth and location) that warrant it being kept around. It is true that many pages already don't use it because the boss already has another role, but at least in Ridley's case I have seen both infoboxes being used, with the boss infobox being in the body of the article instead of at the start. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 17:12, April 9, 2021 (EDT)

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Forums: Index → Proposals → Expanding certain character infobox templates
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There are many non playable characters in Smash, such as Assist Trophies, stage hazards, Mii Costumes, characters assisting in a Final Smash, for these we use the Template:Infobox Character General. For a few, like bosses, enemies and Poké Ball Pokémon, we use different templates, like Template:Boss, Template:Infobox Enemy and Template:Pokémon. Although these characters are no less important than the others, their infoboxes contain less information for whatever reason (I assume as a carryover from when most of them were Smash originals).

I propose to add the following parameters to all the aforementioned infoboxes:

  • Debut game
  • Most recent appearance
  • Platform of origin
  • Place of origin
  • Created by and Designed by

These are all pretty much self explanatory. The following should be added to only one specific infobox.

  • Species: only to the Boss infobox. As enemies and Pokémon are mobs instead of individuals, their species is pretty much already implicitly stated.
  • Gender: as above, bosses are individuals, while enemies and Pokémon are mobs and therefore their gender varies.
  • Smash Bros. appearances: to the enemy infobox because it is inexplicably missing it.

Thank you for reading. --Rdrfc (talk) 15:15, March 26, 2021 (EDT)

EDIT: forgot to add it initiallty, but Template:Infobox Item might warrant implementing the first three points about origins, the rest however is arguably unnecessary or not applicable. --Rdrfc (talk) 15:25, March 26, 2021 (EDT)

Support[edit]

  1. Per proposa. --Rdrfc (talk) 15:15, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
  2. Support I don't see why they shouldn't have that information in their infobox and I assume it was just an oversight to begin with rather than an intentional ommission. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:14, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
  3. Support Enemies, bosses, and Pokémon are still "characters" to some degree, so there's really no reason to not give them stuff such as debut game or console of debut. SmashTurtlesSig1.pngSuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle TribeSmashTurtlesSig2.png 20:58, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
  4. Support ThegameandwatchIcon2.png Thegameandwatch Thegameandwatch signature icon.png The Nerd 21:14, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
  5. Fine by me Serpent SKSig.png King 17:10, March 29, 2021 (EDT)
  6. Support No reason to decline this by me. For my signature. Omegα Toαd, the Toαd Wαrrior. (I'm the best!) 18:56, March 29, 2021 (EDT)
  7. Support Same as above, no reason not to. Preceding comment that was ptotally signed by CaptainDabsalot (talk•Contribs) 12:51, March 30, 2021 (EDT)
  8. Support --Meester Tweester (talk) 09:47, February 23, 2022 (EST)
  9. Support 174.55.24.64 06:58, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
  10. Support per above. There's no reason the aforementioned characters should lack those parameters on their pages. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool 🦊Furry🦊 Gamer (talk) 09:12, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
  11. Support as well. Grand Dad.png NPM Morr!? A legit emoji in the Smash Asia server. 05:15, June 17, 2022 (EDT)

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Comments[edit]

Overall I support the concept, but would it perhaps be better, at least for the bosses which lean more towards being specific characters rather than generic enemy species, to simply switch them to the standard Infobox Character General and ditch the boss infobox altogether? Miles (talk) 16:44, April 9, 2021 (EDT)

The boss infobox has two relevant parameters (Points worth and location) that warrant it being kept around. It is true that many pages already don't use it because the boss already has another role, but at least in Ridley's case I have seen both infoboxes being used, with the boss infobox being in the body of the article instead of at the start. --Rdrfc (talk) 17:12, April 9, 2021 (EDT)
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