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(I'm only putting Marth 3rd on my Melee tier list simply because of PPMD. Really he should be 5th imo.)
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My personal tier lists if so.
My personal tier lists if so.


==How I rank my tier lists==
As a general rule of thumb, I use letters showing how viable one tier is. These letter tiers do not necessarily mean things like "top tier" or "bottom tier" and the like.
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!Rank!!Game
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|S||The best characters to use in competitive play, and there are no real qualms in using them.
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|A||All-around viable characters. They're not as good as the ones at S tier but they usually have little to no flaws.
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|B||These characters are not as viable since their flaws shows. Their still fairly good to use though.
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|C||Characters that are a bit on the flawed side to use. They have situation uses, but don't expect to see these guys at tournaments that often.
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|D||Barely viable characters, as they have at least a few niches that save them. Generally mediocre characters overall.
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|E||These characters are just not that viable at all. If you want to use them, expect to have a hard time.
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|F||Characters that are never viable. Commonly known as the joke characters.
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==''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' tier list==
==''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' tier list==


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{{TierImageBlock|c=5|t=2|chr=Kirby|g=SSB}}
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{{TierImageBlock|c=5|t=2|chr=Fox|g=SSB}}
{{TierImageBlock|c=4|t=2|chr=Fox|g=SSB}}
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{{TierImageBlock|c=5|t=4|chr=Link|g=SSB}}
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What the tier letters stands for: S tier is top tier, A tier is high, B tier is high or middle tier, C tier is middle or low tier, and D is low tier.


In this tier list I personally think Falcon should be higher than Fox due to being better overall in the more common Dream Land and having an better aerial game. Yoshi and Jigglypuff jumps over Mario and Donkey Kong respectively. Even though Link is the worst character on Dream Land, he is an underrated character in my opinion. If used in the rights hands, Link can be really good at keeping his opponents at bay with his projectiles and strong aerials. Samus also rose high from her last place and Luigi now resides at the bottom.
In this tier list I personally think Falcon should be higher than Fox due to being better overall in the more common Dream Land and having an better aerial game. Yoshi and Jigglypuff jumps over Mario and Donkey Kong respectively. Even though Link is the worst character on Dream Land, he is an underrated character in my opinion. If used in the rights hands, Link can be really good at keeping his opponents at bay with his projectiles and strong aerials. Samus also rose high from her last place and Luigi now resides at the bottom.
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What the tier letters stands for: S tier is top tier, A tier is high tier, B tier is middle tier, C tier is low tier, and F tier is bottom tier.


Thanks to {{Sm|aMSa}}, I have {{SSBM|Yoshi}} jump another three spots. While it was a tough call to whether have {{SSBM|Samus}}, {{SSBM|Pikachu}}, or {{SSBM|Dr. Mario}} take the top of the middle tier (also generally the top of the usually not too viable characters), {{Sm|Axe}}'s great performance at [[MLG Anaheim 2014]] and [[EVO 2014]] has prompt me to put Pikachu there. {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}, in my opinion, should also be top tier, making it now five top tier characters. I also think {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} is the weakest of the viable characters so I dropped him below Ice Climbers (not next to Peach). {{SSBM|Pichu}} rose two because I think he is an underrated character while {{SSBM|Zelda}} fell a lot. Debatable whether {{SSBM|Fox}} or {{SSBM|Falco}} should take the top since both of their top players, {{Sm|Mango}} and {{Sm|PPMD}} respectively, have both won [[MLG Anaheim 2014|some]] [[EVO 2014|really]] [[Apex 2014|big]] [[Apex 2015|tournaments]] recently. I still think Fox should have the top spot due to his ability to win bigger national tournaments.
Thanks to {{Sm|aMSa}}, I have {{SSBM|Yoshi}} jump another three spots. While it was a tough call to whether have {{SSBM|Samus}}, {{SSBM|Pikachu}}, or {{SSBM|Dr. Mario}} take the top of the middle tier (also generally the top of the usually not too viable characters), {{Sm|Axe}}'s great performance at [[MLG Anaheim 2014]] and [[EVO 2014]] has prompt me to put Pikachu there. {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}, in my opinion, should also be top tier, making it now five top tier characters. I also think {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} is the weakest of the viable characters so I dropped him below Ice Climbers (not next to Peach). {{SSBM|Pichu}} rose two because I think he is an underrated character while {{SSBM|Zelda}} fell a lot. Debatable whether {{SSBM|Fox}} or {{SSBM|Falco}} should take the top since both of their top players, {{Sm|Mango}} and {{Sm|PPMD}} respectively, have both won [[MLG Anaheim 2014|some]] [[EVO 2014|really]] [[Apex 2014|big]] [[Apex 2015|tournaments]] recently. I still think Fox should have the top spot due to his ability to win bigger national tournaments.
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What the tier letters stands for: SS tier stands for Stupidly Super tier (likely known as god tier or the Meta Knight tier), S tier stands for Super tier (or Ice Climbers tier), A tier stands for top tier, B tier stands for high or upper high tier, C tier stands for high-mid or lower high tier, D tier stands for middle tier, E tier stands for lower-mid tier, F tier stands for low tier, and G stands for bottom tier.


I don't really have much to say for the ''Brawl'' tier list, since the eighth backroom tier list looks good enough. There are some minor changes but none of them are that really significant noting to the metagame.
I don't really have much to say for the ''Brawl'' tier list, since the eighth backroom tier list looks good enough. There are some minor changes but none of them are that really significant noting to the metagame.

Revision as of 12:54, June 12, 2015

My personal tier lists if so.

How I rank my tier lists

As a general rule of thumb, I use letters showing how viable one tier is. These letter tiers do not necessarily mean things like "top tier" or "bottom tier" and the like.

Rank Game
S The best characters to use in competitive play, and there are no real qualms in using them.
A All-around viable characters. They're not as good as the ones at S tier but they usually have little to no flaws.
B These characters are not as viable since their flaws shows. Their still fairly good to use though.
C Characters that are a bit on the flawed side to use. They have situation uses, but don't expect to see these guys at tournaments that often.
D Barely viable characters, as they have at least a few niches that save them. Generally mediocre characters overall.
E These characters are just not that viable at all. If you want to use them, expect to have a hard time.
F Characters that are never viable. Commonly known as the joke characters.

Super Smash Bros. tier list

Super Smash Bros. Tier List
S A B C
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
PikachuIcon(SSB).png KirbyIcon(SSB).png CaptainFalconIcon(SSB).png FoxIcon(SSB).png YoshiIcon(SSB).png JigglypuffIcon(SSB).png MarioIcon(SSB).png SamusIcon(SSB).png LinkIcon(SSB).png DonkeyKongIcon(SSB).png NessIcon(SSB).png LuigiIcon(SSB).png

In this tier list I personally think Falcon should be higher than Fox due to being better overall in the more common Dream Land and having an better aerial game. Yoshi and Jigglypuff jumps over Mario and Donkey Kong respectively. Even though Link is the worst character on Dream Land, he is an underrated character in my opinion. If used in the rights hands, Link can be really good at keeping his opponents at bay with his projectiles and strong aerials. Samus also rose high from her last place and Luigi now resides at the bottom.

Super Smash Bros. Melee tier list

Super Smash Bros. Melee Tier List
S A B
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
FoxIcon(SSBM).png FalcoIcon(SSBM).png MarthIcon(SSBM).png JigglypuffIcon(SSBM).png SheikIcon(SSBM).png PeachIcon(SSBM).png IceClimbersIcon(SSBM).png CaptainFalconIcon(SSBM).png PikachuIcon(SSBM).png DrMarioIcon(SSBM).png SamusIcon(SSBM).png LuigiIcon(SSBM).png GanondorfIcon(SSBM).png YoshiIcon(SSBM).png MarioIcon(SSBM).png
C F
16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
YoungLinkIcon(SSBM).png LinkIcon(SSBM).png DonkeyKongIcon(SSBM).png MewtwoIcon(SSBM).png RoyIcon(SSBM).png MrGame&WatchIcon(SSBM).png NessIcon(SSBM).png PichuIcon(SSBM).png ZeldaIcon(SSBM).png BowserIcon(SSBM).png KirbyIcon(SSBM).png

Thanks to aMSa, I have Yoshi jump another three spots. While it was a tough call to whether have Samus, Pikachu, or Dr. Mario take the top of the middle tier (also generally the top of the usually not too viable characters), Axe's great performance at MLG Anaheim 2014 and EVO 2014 has prompt me to put Pikachu there. Jigglypuff, in my opinion, should also be top tier, making it now five top tier characters. I also think Captain Falcon is the weakest of the viable characters so I dropped him below Ice Climbers (not next to Peach). Pichu rose two because I think he is an underrated character while Zelda fell a lot. Debatable whether Fox or Falco should take the top since both of their top players, Mango and PPMD respectively, have both won some really big tournaments recently. I still think Fox should have the top spot due to his ability to win bigger national tournaments.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl tier list

Super Smash Bros. Brawl Tier List
SS S A
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
MetaKnightIcon(SSBB).png IceClimbersIcon(SSBB).png DiddyKongIcon(SSBB).png MarthIcon(SSBB).png OlimarIcon(SSBB).png SnakeIcon(SSBB).png PikachuIcon(SSBB).png FalcoIcon(SSBB).png
B+ B-
9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
ZeroSuitSamusIcon(SSBB).png WarioIcon(SSBB).png WolfIcon(SSBB).png KingDededeIcon(SSBB).png ToonLinkIcon(SSBB).png LucarioIcon(SSBB).png FoxIcon(SSBB).png MrGame&WatchIcon(SSBB).png PeachIcon(SSBB).png PitIcon(SSBB).png
C D
19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28
ROBIcon(SSBB).png KirbyIcon(SSBB).png SonicIcon(SSBB).png IkeIcon(SSBB).png DonkeyKongIcon(SSBB).png ZeldaSheikIcon(SSBB).png SheikIcon(SSBB).png YoshiIcon(SSBB).png LuigiIcon(SSBB).png NessIcon(SSBB).png
E F
29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38
LucasIcon(SSBB).png MarioIcon(SSBB).png PokémonTrainerIcon(SSBB).png SamusIcon(SSBB).png CaptainFalconIcon(SSBB).png LinkIcon(SSBB).png BowserIcon(SSBB).png JigglypuffIcon(SSBB).png ZeldaIcon(SSBB).png GanondorfIcon(SSBB).png

I don't really have much to say for the Brawl tier list, since the eighth backroom tier list looks good enough. There are some minor changes but none of them are that really significant noting to the metagame.

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