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Character infobox cleanup[edit]

Exactly how does the infoboxes need a cleanup? It's just showcasing every fighter in the game with no typos or anything actually needing a cleanup. Supa Toad 64 001Toad.jpg 00:57, July 16, 2019 (EDT)

The cleanup is likely referring to the section itself, rather than the template; that said, even I'm not sure why it's there. Aidan, the Rurouni 00:59, July 16, 2019 (EDT)

Pokemon Trainer counted twice?[edit]

I noticed that it was listed that there are "65 veterans (67 with PKMN Trainer), 11 newcomers in base, and 6 DLC". Yet, when you look at the image of the roster, there are only 63 spots when taking out the DLC characters and Random space. The total number given after (74/76 in base and 80/82 with DLC) is correct, however if it's 65/67 veterans with 11 newcomers, it would be 76/78 total in base and 72/74 with DLC. This is all, of course, counting the 3 Miis as separate. I think someone changed the number based on the table which says there are 65 veterans, which would be counting the PKMN Trainer as 3 and not 1. I figured I'd bring it up in here because I didn't want to risk getting in trouble for changing something without bringing it up first. Silva (talk) 10:07, July 28, 2019 (EDT)

I see you are right about this mistake, so I'm changing it right now. For future references don't be afraid to edit something you know is a mistake, we are all in this together to make this wiki a reliable plase for smash information. After all why would anyone get in trouble for fixing incorrect information? Supa Toad 64 001Toad.jpg 04:18, July 29, 2019 (EDT)
Um, aren't Lucina and Dark Pit counted towards that 65 total, though? I think the problem is that you're both looking at it through the fighter numbers in Ultimate rather than counting how many veterans there actually are, since neither has there own number but instead share one with their base fighters but with an epsilon. SuperSmashTurtles (talk) 04:38, July 29, 2019 (EDT)
No, see this is all based on math I did using the image of the roster we have on the page. There are 5 rows of 13 and 9 in the bottom row that aren't DLC or the Random space. With that, we get (13*5)+9, which adds up to the 74 non-DLC character slots. Simply taking out the 11 newcomers brings the number down to 63. Wasn't using fighter numbers, so there's really no issue in that. Silva (talk) 06:28, July 29, 2019 (EDT)
Ah, shoot! I was using Bayonetta's number (63) as the starting point for counting the total number of veterans, then added Lucina and Dark Pit, but I must have counted the Pokémon Trainer as a single fighter when I was doing so, so that probably made me think it was 67 when I separated their Pokémon. I wrote my discussion piece at, like, 1 AM, so that's probably why I screwed up. I am so sorry for all this. SuperSmashTurtles (talk) 19:49, July 29, 2019 (EDT)

Switch is not a handheld[edit]

Nintendo has stated multiple times that, first and foremost, the Switch is a home console (even if they haven't, there are certain games that don't run under handheld mode or aren't very compatible with it, making it pretty obvious that the Switch had a console idea in mind). While the upcoming Switch Lite is a handheld, the Switch Lite is similar to the 2DS: it isn't the main console of the generation, but a reworked version of it, and we generally only focus on the main handheld. The trivia talking about the Switch as a handheld, therefore, is invalid. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 21:23, August 23, 2019 (EDT)

To be fair, the Switch is more designed as a hybrid of a handheld and home console and so that is why the trivia point was originally there by the anonymous user. Ultimate is also compatible in handheld mode so in a way Ultimate is also a portable Smash game, so it was more of a good-faith misunderstanding.
That said, the Switch's primary focus is to be a home console, not a handheld, and the handheld mode is more of an extra feature so you're right the trivia point is not needed. Supα Toαd 64, The Best 001Toad.jpg 20:34, August 26, 2019 (EDT)

SSBU Character Table-Newcomer Character Count[edit]

I'm sorry, but I really don't like how the (>17) looks when counting off the newcomers, knowing what we know in regards to the DLC being released for Ultimate. I really feel like it should state there are 16 newcomers, as of September 27, 2019, as that's all we know in terms of who is new to the game. 15DollarsWentSouth 20:02, September 27, 2019 (EDT)