Votes for Torchic
- Even though there's the type disadvantage and all, purely talking about their SSBB abilities I prefer Torchic since it actually attacks pretty much instantly after being released from the Poke Ball, unlike Piplup. 110.174.90.69 00:06, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- I don't play with Pokeballs on, but to me a fire attack makes more sense that a water one. Naked Snake 00:31, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- The Cheese says: Fire RUELS! The Cheese 00:34, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- So tough to decide! I'm probably going to go with Torchic, though. I always mimic its voice when released. Too cute. Krazy4Krash (talk) 00:40, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- Blaziken was awesome back when the Fire/Fighting starter WASN'T completely overused. 24.168.107.113 10:46, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- I like fire better--Bandit 11:51, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- While I would normally support the water type, I do like the look of Torchic more. Plus I've never played past generation III. JamesHeartless 13:14, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- Does more damage and knockback.--71.160.242.60 19:36, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- I have a history with Torchics. I first got one as my starter in Emerald and nicknamed it Fireballs. After beating the game with it, I wanted to play through Emerald again with all three starters, so I got Fireballs to produce two children, one called FireballJr, the other without a name. One was then used on Emerald, while the other was used on a friend's playthrough of FireRed. At a later date, both Fireballs and FireballJr were migrated to Black, where FireballJr then had a son of its own after falling in love with a nice Leafeon, called FireballIV, also making Fireballs a Grandfather, and Ditto a Grandmother. Unnamed Torchic is yet to find itself a partner, but maybe one day, the family will expand even further. Toast ltimatum 20:02, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- This is the starter that I used for my favorite Pokemon game, Emerald. Stranger 1260 09:55, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
- Torchic actually does damage,Piplup doesn't.--DarkVexon (talk) 20:22, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
- Piplup is easy to avoid, and Torchic is better to knock into. I have had both Pokemon in their games, but, not suprisingly, I've Torchic longer and Blaziken is great. Floor2000x (talk) 18:22, 30 July 2012 (EDT)
- Torchic's cuter, and has a much better evolution. The White Blur , the Whitest Thing Alive.
- Torchic does way more damage and has a good chance of KOing opponents. It also stays in one spot, and you can push opponents to it, unlike Piplup, where you can just jump over it easily.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 23:13, 2 August 2012 (EDT)
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Votes for Piplup
- Can PWN Torchic easily. ShupaRoeh 23:59, 27 July 2012 (EDT)
- Well despite the type advantage, I prefer Piplup because every time it gets called out it just shoves me off the stage. While with Torchic I can escape and continue fighting against my enemy's. Headmaster Hand (talk) 00:17, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- I just like the idea of Piplup killing itself;) FishPlay (talk) 02:05, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- Another tough one. Piplup's evolution line is better. Don't get me wrong Blaziken is one of my favorite fighting types, but Empoleon is [literally] much cooler. His typing is unique and he has an imperial look, which earns it points. Therefore, Piplup has my vote. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 04:29, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- Piplup can easily knock out characters once they get trapped!!! The Awesome 10:39, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- Piplup can drag you to your doom! 204.191.139.10 10:41, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- Many reasons: Its actually pretty easy to avoid Torchic's attack, Piplup can actually do a suicide KO even if the opponents damage % is low. And even though Blaziken would be better than Empoleon, Penguins are my favorite animal. And lastly, Water does super effect Fire. Dots The PSI Asian 11:48, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- It doesn't work half of the time, but when it does... --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 15:04, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- Just look at my signature and tell me what my favorite starter is. :| Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 17:00, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- I like his water attack. R.O.BitySonic (talk) 18:28, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
- Looks like a penguin. That is all.94.15.11.116 07:06, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
- I would say two points. One, it is generally more useful. True, it's inaccurate due to a slow start up, but if it hits is does a little damage and uncommonly KOs on regular stages and almost always does so on walk-off-blast-line stages. Two, it's a penguin, and a cute penguin at that. True, in the Pokémon series Blaziken is more useful than Empoleon, but Piplup trumps Torchic in both Pokémon AND Brawl. Davsto (talk) 13:15, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
- I love watching Piplup surf back and forth in a walled-in area. Toadat9021doh (talk) 14:03, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
- Puplup is more useful than Torchic, 'cause it drags the opponents to their doom. Smash Master 14:18, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
- Type advantage. Type advantage. LightningBlue 15:53, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
- Per LightningBlue and his new sig. DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 16:01, 29 July 2012 (EDT)
- I LOVE PENGUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are cute and fluffy and Piplup is no exception. Oh, and Piplup can talk too. ChuckNorris 12:09, 31 July 2012 (EDT)
- I would say exactly the same thing as AirConditioner if I had an Empoleon sig.--Shanicpower Make it rain! 12:43, 31 July 2012 (EDT)Piplup's my favorite too...
- Water > Fire. 67.173.145.76 20:16, 1 August 2012 (EDT)
- My first pokemon game was Diamond. My mom started it, chose Piplup and gave it a stupid nickname. DragonMistress (talk) 14:31, 2 August 2012 (EDT)DragonMistress 20:30, 2 August 1012
- 64.130.180.158 15:55, 2 August 2012 (EDT)
- Water beats fire. Cherrim98Talk 23:07, 3 August 2012 (EDT) Thats right im back!
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