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Hitbox visualization showing Sonic's up smash.

Overview[edit]

A jumping Spin Dash. It hits multiple times, with its last hit having extremely high knockback growth, but its last hit also has average base knockback, which makes it better suited for KO attempts later instead of earlier. However, it's also good at shield stabbing and will usually be able to shield stab any shield that isn't completely full. On top of this, Sonic is intangible during the first few frames of his spin dash animation, making the move harder to punish.

Update history[edit]

7.0.0

Its meteor smashing hitboxes have received a -100% trip chance, preventing them from tripping opponents on platforms and causing the last hit to miss due to the trip's intangibility.

9.0.0

It has less startup (frame 18 → 14), with its total duration reduced as well (FAF 66 → 62).
It grants longer intangibility (frames 18-20 → 14-18).
It modifies Sonic's jostle area on frame 13, making it less likely for opponents to get pushed out of the move's range.
The first hit's lower hitbox launches more inward (95° → 110°) with higher set knockback (70 → 120), allowing it to lead into the looping hits more effectively.

Hitboxes[edit]

ID	Part	Rehit rate	Damage	SD	Angle type	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			H×	SDI×	T%	Sound	Hit bits	Hit part
Hit 1
0	0	0	5.0%	0	Standard	0	60	70	6.0	waist	5.0	0.0	0.0	1.0×	0.2×	0%	Punch	All	All
1	0	0	5.0%	0	Standard	0	80	120	6.0	waist	4.0	-1.5	0.0	1.0×	0.2×	0%	Punch	All	All
Hits 2-7
0	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	0	100	70	4.2	top	0.0	15.0	5.5	1.0×	0.5×	0%	Kick	All	All
1	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	0	100	70	4.2	top	0.0	15.0	-5.5	1.0×	0.5×	0%	Kick	All	All
2	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	0	100	60	4.0	top	0.0	24.0	5.5	1.0×	0.5×	-100%	Kick	All	All
3	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	0	100	60	4.0	top	0.0	24.0	-5.5	1.0×	0.5×	-100%	Kick	All	All
Hit 8
0	0	0	3.0%	0	Standard	80	170	0	10.0	top	4.0	25.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%	Kick	All	All

Timing[edit]

Charges between	9-10
Intangibility	14-18
Hit 1	14
Hits 2-7	17, 19, 21, 23, 25, 27
Hit 8	29-30
Interruptible	62
Animation length	78

Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
Lag time	Charge interval	Hitbox	Vulnerable	Intangible	Interruptible

Sonic's moveset

Neutral attack (1 · 2 · 3) · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Forward roll · Back roll · Spot dodge · Air dodge · Techs
Floor attack (front) · Floor getups (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor getups (back) · Floor attack (trip) · Floor getups (trip)
Edge attack · Edge getups
Neutral special · Side special · Up special · Down special · Final Smash

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 [[File:SonicUSmashSSBU.gif|thumb|400px|Hitbox visualization showing Sonic's up smash.]]
 ==Overview==
-A jumping Spin Dash. It hits multiple times, with its last hit having extremely high knockback growth, but its last hit also has average base knockback, which makes it better suited for KO attempts later instead of earlier.
+A jumping Spin Dash. It hits multiple times, with its last hit having extremely high knockback growth, but its last hit also has average base knockback, which makes it better suited for KO attempts later instead of earlier. However, it's also good at [[Shield stab|shield stabbing]] and will usually be able to shield stab any shield that isn't completely full. On top of this, Sonic is intangible during the first few frames of his spin dash animation, making the move harder to punish.
 ==Update history==
 '''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|7.0.0}}'''
-*{{buff|Up smash's meteor smashing hitboxes have received a -100% trip chance, preventing them from tripping opponents on platforms and causing the last hit to miss due to the trip's intangibility.}}
+*{{buff|Its meteor smashing hitboxes have received a -100% trip chance, preventing them from tripping opponents on platforms and causing the last hit to miss due to the trip's intangibility.}}
+'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|9.0.0}}'''
+*{{buff|It has less startup (frame 18 → 14), with its total duration reduced as well (FAF 66 → 62).}}
+*{{buff|It grants longer [[intangibility]] (frames 18-20 → 14-18).}}
+*{{buff|It modifies Sonic's [[jostle]] area on frame 13, making it less likely for opponents to get pushed out of the move's range.}}
+*{{buff|The first hit's lower hitbox launches more inward (95° → 110°) with higher [[set knockback]] (70 → 120), allowing it to lead into the looping hits more effectively.}}
 ==Hitboxes==
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+{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 1|42}}
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@@ Line 19: / Line 25: @@
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@@ Line 34: / Line 37: @@
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-{{HitboxTableTitle|Hits 2-7|24}}
+{{HitboxTableTitle|Hits 2-7|42}}
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+|setweight=t
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-|xpos=0.0
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-|effect=Normal
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+|effect=Rapid
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+|clang=f
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-|ff=1.0
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+|effect=Rapid
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-|ff=1.0
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-|effect=Normal
+|effect=Rapid
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+|rebound=f
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-{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 8|24}}
+{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 8|42}}
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-{{HitboxTableRowNote|Hits 1-7 use weight-independent knockback.|24}}
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+|9-10
+|-
+!Intangibility
+|14-18
 |-
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-|18
+|14
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+|17, 19, 21, 23, 25, 27
 |-
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+|29-30
 |-
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 |-
 !Animation length
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+{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=9|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=4|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=31}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=13}}
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+{{FrameStrip|t=Vulnerable|c=13}}{{FrameStrip|t=Intangible|c=5}}{{FrameStrip|t=Vulnerable|c=56}}
 {{FrameStripEnd}}
 {{FrameStripStart}}
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-{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|interruptible=y|vulnerable=y|intangible=y}}
+{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|charge=y|hitbox=y|interruptible=y|vulnerable=y|intangible=y}}
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 [[Category:Sonic (SSBU)]]
 [[Category:Up smashes (SSBU)]]

Sonic (SSBU)/Up smash: Difference between revisions

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