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I know it's very early, but I decided to make a tier list with the characters they currently announced in SSB4. This is purely for fun and it is not very accurate. I will update it when 2 more characters are announced. I want to see your opinions and if there are any mistakes, just tell me. Do not fix it yourselves.

Super Smash Bros. 4 Tier List (V. 1.2)

S (God):

1. Mega Man

A (Great):

2. Olimar

3. Villager

4. Toon Link

B (Good):

5. Fox

6. Link

7. Samus

8. Marth

C (Bad):

9. Wii Fit Trainer

10. Pit

11. Pikachu

D (Horrible):

12. Kirby

13. Mario

14. Bowser

Like I said before, I will update this when 2 more characters are announced. And if there are any mistakes or if I'm missing anyone, feel free to tell me. Terrible is Terrible 19:31, 10 August 2013 (EDT)

Wii Fit Trainer looks like she's going to be pretty good, lots of fast attacks which don't look shabby in power. It's hard to tell with Bowser and Villager. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 19:57, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
Alright, I thought about it and I guess WFT in last was kind of a joke thing so I updated it. Wii Fit Trainer has gone up to 11, Mario goes down 2 spots, and Bowser is now last. Terrible is Terrible 13:29, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
I'm curious, how are you making this? We haven't even seen actual gameplay footage of some characters. Scr7Wolfsig.png =D 13:32, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
For the veterans, I'm just basing it off on how they were in Brawl and their screenshots in SSB4. For the newcomers, I'm mostly just doing a guess. Like I said, I'm just doing this for fun and it's not really serious. Terrible is Terrible 13:36, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

OK, I should've done this a long time ago, but here's the Smash 4 tier list V 2.0! With the addition of 4 returning veterans and 1 newcomer, here it is!

Super Smash Bros. 4 Tier List (V. 2.0)

S (God):

1. Mega Man

A (Great):

2. Olimar

3. Rosalina

4. Villager

5. Sonic

6. Marth

B (Good):

7. Fox

8. Toon Link

9. Peach

10. Pit

11. Pikachu

C (Bad):

12. Wii Fit Trainer

13. DK

14. Kirby

15. Luigi

D (Horrible):

16. Samus

17. Mario

18. Bowser

19. Link

What do you think? This one's much more reasonable since I actually looked at the Brawl tier list as a template for the veterans so there are a lot of changes. Major changes include Link going all the down to last and Samus from 7th to 16th. Oh, and of course Mega Man is still God tier, his moves are completely badass! I'll update this when 3 more characters are announced... maybe. 22:05, 18 December 2013 (EST)

Hahahaha, man, is this just a bad tier list. In fact, this is just terrible. This is an obvious troll. "Brawl tier list as a template"? Really? Where have you been, under a bridge? Requiem of Ice (talk) 15:14, 19 December 2013 (EST)
Well, my name was Terrible so you're kind of right on this list being terribly terrible, because it's made by Terrible. And also, 19:58, 19 December 2013 (EST)
Here's something you should know before making a tier list; DON'T BASE IT FROM ANOTHER GAME'S TIER LIST. Making a tier list based from one game with a lot of differences than another makes completely no sense and would be terribly inaccurate. Requiem of Ice (talk) 20:41, 19 December 2013 (EST)
"This is purely for fun and it is not very accurate."
Don't take this seriously. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 20:46, 19 December 2013 (EST)
Thank you Omega, I was going to say the same thing. 20:51, 19 December 2013 (EST)
I know I'm not taking it seriously. I just like laughing at jokes. Requiem of Ice (talk) 23:02, 20 December 2013 (EST)
If you weren't taking it seriously, you wouldn't have gone to the trouble of those posts. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 04:41, 21 December 2013 (EST)

Bowser is now faster and more powerful, so I presume he is going to be higher up on the tier list.NutsBazooka (talk) 03:49, 21 December 2013 (EST)

Smash 4 (joke) tier list 3.0 is here! 3 more veterans added to the list, and a lot of changes. Next version coming out whenever I feel like a good amount of characters got confirmed.

Super Smash Bros. 4 Tier List (V. 3.1)

S (God):

1. Mega Man

A (Great):

2. Villager

3. Olimar

4. Rosalina

5. Lucario

B (Good):

6. Sonic

7. Marth

8. Fox

9. King Dedede

10. Toon Link

C (Average):

11. Peach

12. Pikachu

13. Little Mac

14. Wii Fit Trainer

15. Pit

D (Bad):

16. Donkey Kong

17. Link

18. Bowser

19. Kirby

F (Horrible)

20. Luigi

21. Samus

22. Mario

23. Zelda

Thanks to NutsBazooka stating Bowser will be faster and more powerful, Bowser's placement got a little bit higher to 17, and Link got up to 16 because his buffed dair. I think Lucario will get into a high place because the aura concept will be better and that could be a real game changer. Villager got moved up to 2 because a lot of his moves seem really good, and his grab may do well (he may be the next Mr. Game & Watch). Also, Mega Man is still 1 because he's badass like that and Zelda is last because, well, she's Zelda. 17:47, 1 February 2014 (EST)

Smash 4 tier list 3.1 because Little Mac. Nothing big, just added Mac and Lucario gained up to 5 because he seems to be buffed a lot for this game. Mac is Average because although his moves are very strong (Heck his neutral special is an OHKO!), but his aerial attacks and recovery looks awful. Terrible is a Valentine 19:42, 13 February 2014 (EST)

I don't think that Rosalina should be as high on the tier list as she is. Screenshots say she is very tall and floaty, and some gameplay shows that lots of her moves(especially her bair) are slow. But don't make her too low, as she does have that Luma to help her out. VICIOUS VIRIDIAN!!!!!! (talk) 22:37, 3 March 2014 (EST)

Actually, from what I see, her edge-guarding seems unsurpassed, as she seems to possess a few great gimping moves and a fast meteor smash. Requiem of Ice (talk) 01:45, 4 March 2014 (EST)

Here's my joke tier list 'w':

S+ (Broken Tier)

1. Rosalina (With that Luma and fast meteor, she's gonna be edgeguarding queen.)

2. Little Mac (One hit KO anyone?)

3. Link (Regain of his Melee stats and an additional Meteor...dat meteor.)

4. Marth (Already fabulous enough)


5. Lucario

A (Astroid Tier)

6. Toon Link

7. Diddy Kong

8. Fox

9. Pikachu

10. Peach

B (Weegee Tier)

11. Luigi

12. King Dedede

13. Mario

14. Olimar

15. Bowser

16. Pit

C (Bad Tier)

17. Kirby

18. Samus

19. Mega Man

D ("Probably Gonna Fail The Real One" Tier)

20. Villager

21. Donkey Kong

22. Wii Fit Trainer

23. Zelda

Derp! Here it is, in all it's joking glory XD Requiem of Ice (talk) 01:45, 4 March 2014 (EST)

SageOfMuzzyness' Smash 4 silly but probable tier list[edit]

Here it is.

S (Broken Gods)

1. Little Mac

2. Mega Man

A (Lesser Greater Gods)

3. Rosalina

4. Olimar

5. Diddy Kong

6. Marth

7. Villager

B (Powerful)

8. Wii Fit Trainer

9. Pikachu

10. Lucario

C (Good)

11. King Dedede

12. Toon Link

13. Pit

14. Fox

D (Mediocre)

15. Donkey Kong

16. Sonic

17. Kirby

18. Peach

19. Zelda

E (Bad)

20. Luigi

21. Bowser


22. Samus

23. Link

24. Mario --—Preceding unsigned comment added by SageOfMuzzyness (talkcontribs) {{{2}}}

Why has Mario been on the bottom of nearly every list? Sure, there hasn't been anything new or interesting revealed about Mario yet, but I wouldn't count him down for the count. It seems he's going to get some major buffs, and judging by the patterns at which these lists are ordered (buffed characters in Brawl have seen drops, and characters that have always been bad or mediocre are still on the bottom while newcomers and personal favorites/top tiers from Brawl populate the top), most of you have ignored the fact that Sakurai intends to take SSB4 in a new direction rather than "fixing" the previous game (basically, he's not going to just buff bad characters and nerf good ones). blue ninjakoopa 16:13, 8 April 2014 (EDT)

The fish has been confirmed to return. All of these supposed "tier lists" are fraudulent when they do not have the fish alone in the Omega God tier. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:54, 22 April 2014 (EDT)

No word on the Cucco's status (we don't know if it's a regular item or an assist trophy), so on the off chance that it's actually playable, I think the Cucco would surpass The Fish in the Ultra SSS Tier. The Cucco will undoubtedly have a superior aerial game and stronger attacks, and its greatest attribute will be its gimmick similar to Lucario's; the more damage it takes, the more CPU-controlled Cucco's appear (all Level 10), which means you'll be able to do loads of damage with just one attack. blue ninjakoopa 15:45, 22 April 2014 (EDT)
At least make Mega Man at first. :P Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Portal 18:22, 22 April 2014 (EDT)

First three months tier list[edit]

Being this early within the metagame, I can't give an exact fix on what the Smash 4 tier list will actually look like but this is how it goes so far in my opinion.


1. Diddy Kong

2. Rosalina & Luma

3. Sheik


4. Yoshi

5. Zero Suit Samus

6. Lucario

7. Sonic

8. Greninja

9. Captain Falcon


10. Ness

11. Pikachu

12. Duck Hunt

13. Fox

14. Marth

15. Robin

16. Toon Link

17. Lucina


18. R.O.B.

19. Mario

20. Peach

21. Link

22. Dark Pit

23. Pit

24. Shulk

25. Little Mac

26. Jigglypuff


27. Samus

28. Mega Man

29. Ike

30. Kirby

31. Mr. Game & Watch

32. Dr. Mario

33. Villager

34. King Dedede

35. Pac-Man


36. Falco

37. Bowser Jr.

38. Wario

39. Bowser

40. Luigi

41. Donkey Kong

42. Palutena

43. Meta Knight

44. Ganondorf

45. Zelda

46. Charizard

47. Olimar

48. Wii Fit Trainer

So what do you guys think? Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Pollyanna 09:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)

If you want my honset opinion, Duck Hunt isn't that low, Sheik's not that high, Lucario should be a bit higher, Marth belongs at the bottom, and Robin is definitely top. But that's probably just me. I'd make my own, but I have yet to fully analyze every character. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 11:01, 12 December 2014 (EST)
Duck Hunt seems to be high in my opinion while because of Sheik's great performance in tournaments, I personally think she should be top tier. Even though the Japanese tier list ranks Marth like 40 places below Fox, I still think he's still good. :P Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Doomguy 11:10, 12 December 2014 (EST)
Sheik is in the top 3 no doubt; only real problem is her extreme lack of KO'ing power compared to the other top tiers. She probably has the best neutral game by some margin, and her combos and edgeguards are very versatile to the point of her having a lot of options in pretty much any situation. I have a hard time determining who is better between Sheik and Rosalina, though they're definitely in the top 3 below Diddy. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 11:22, 12 December 2014 (EST)
What exactly makes Wii Fit Trainer absolute bottom? Bad hitbox placement? She's definitely in the lower parts of the tier list, but I'd put Ganondorf, Zelda, or Palutena in the bottom spot instead of her.
Also, between the top tier and the bottom tier, is there is more or less "balance" compared to the previous games in the series?
--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 01:46, 15 December 2014 (EST)
I would probably say that Smash 4 is on par for most balance with Melee. About who should probably be at the very bottom, the ones you said are possible canadates although I personally don't think Ganondorf should be bottom again. Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Gamer 10:13, 15 December 2014 (EST)

Question, do you guys also think Link, Fox, Shulk, Falco, and Meta Knight should be higher on this list? Just wondering. Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Asian 10:09, 15 December 2014 (EST)

  1. Smash 4 is more balanced than Melee. While, yes, there are certain bad characters and certain good characters, the differences between the two sections are like Meta Knight vs the rest of the Brawl cast. That said, that's why my tier list has no specific order; rather, it just categorizes them by tiers.
  2. All of them should be higher. Link should not make as big a jump as the others, but all 5 are definitely higher up. AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 10:25, 15 December 2014 (EST)

BlueStreak's Tier List[edit]

This is in no particular order. However, it is still sorted into sections. Let me know what you guys think.

Top Tier[edit]

  • Rosalina
  • Robin
  • Duck Hunt
  • Lucario
  • Zero Suit Samus
  • Yoshi
  • Shulk

High Tier[edit]

  • Sonic
  • Greninja
  • Captain Falcon
  • Bowser Jr.
  • Diddy Kong
  • Toon Link
  • Meta Knight
  • Falco
  • Pikachu
  • Dark Pit
  • King Dedede

Middle Tier[edit]

  • Ganondorf
  • Charizard
  • Fox
  • Sheik
  • Bowser
  • Zelda
  • Samus
  • Pit
  • Palutena
  • Ike
  • Kirby
  • Little Mac
  • Lucina
  • Peach

Low Tier[edit]

  • Mario
  • Luigi
  • Wario
  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Donkey Kong
  • Link
  • Jigglypuff
  • R.O.B.
  • Ness
  • Dr. Mario
  • Pac-Man
  • Mega Man

Bottom Tier[edit]

  • Marth
  • Olimar
  • Villager
  • Wii Fit Trainer

AidanzapunkSig.jpgBlueStreak Speeds By 11:26, 12 December 2014 (EST)