SmashWiki:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive 2

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Report vandals in the following section labeled for such reports at the top using {{IP|Username}}, where Username is the name of the user or the IP vandal's IP address.

Vandal reports

Please place new vandal reports at the top of this section.

Tas man (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · man WHOIS) Anon 04:42, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just a user massively obsessed with making Link number one. He probaly didn't know standards either. Gave him a warning, so if he does it again, sure block. As of now, unsure as this user probaly belived that Link is awesome in everyway.--MegaTron1XD 05:06, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Inserting information that he knows is false is indeed considered vandalism. Mr. Anon teh awsome 00:09, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to believe that the user in question made their edits out of bad faith considering how the edits were made and the fact that they added the false information after they were reverted. The fact the user changed the information about Link's tier position and did it again when they were reverted the first time, counts as reinserting false information, something that is a blockable offense. While we could assume this is a new user not knowing that you're not allowed to post any opinion you want in an article, the fact that they repeatedly added false information about Link's position on the BBR's tier list is enough to block them for adding false information. Omega Tyrant 00:33, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Andrew Hawkins (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · Hawkins WHOIS) Mr. Anon teh awsome 04:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

72.93.215.229 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 21:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

98.154.161.8 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS)Sir Anon the great 03:01, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

85.31.137.11 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) He made spams on Looney Tunes A few days ago.~~76.116.186.130 18:02 September 11, 2010

If the vandal stopped days ago, don't bother reporting him. It's too late for the situation to require an admin. Shadowcrest 18:35, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

71.253.233.20 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) BNK ^[E|T|C] 23:30, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

189.132.188.202 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 16:27, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Zelly12 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Mr. Anon teh awsome 03:34, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

That is not a vandal. It is a misguided user.--MegaTron1XD 05:15, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Just because someone makes a page that isn't needed doesn't mean they are a vandal. Actually take a look at the content first. The content on the Kumatora page was obviously done out of good faith. Omega Tyrant 07:08, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

The content of the page was "lol Kumatora has a crush on Lucas" and then there was an image of a hack. Definetly not good faith. Mr. Anon teh awsome 15:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it was. The link was there. The user decided it was needed. And the lol was made by an unregistered user. The user wrote about her. Factual information boy.--MegaTron1XD 15:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

The content of the article was "Kumatora's Name in Japanese is bear.Most people do not know that.Kumatora has a crush on lucas!" with a picture of a texture hack. The article certainly does appear to me to have been created out of good faith. Omega Tyrant 15:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I'm still unsure about whether you can call that good faith or not, but I guess he's not really a vandal. Sorry about that confusion. Anon 16:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Good faith means that the user fealt it was necessary. There was a red link, and the user decided to fill it, not knowing that it doesn't deserve a page. --MegaTron1XD 16:50, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

184.32.66.185 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS)Mr. Anon teh awsome 03:29, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

69.171.164.246 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 01:37, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

208.96.123.219 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 19:41, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

96.54.130.162 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 13:27, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

24.0.61.200 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Anon 20:37, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

96.3.18.141 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS)Mr. Anon teh awsome 01:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

This IP has already been blocked. Omega Tyrant 01:33, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

76.89.115.119 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS)Sir Anon the great 22:04, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

206.162.143.251 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) This one I'm confused about, since he's created and contributed to several Smasher pages, yet vandalized at least one. Mr. Anon teh awsome 14:18, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

You know, you got the wrong IP. Omega Tyrant 14:28, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure that the IP is used by more than one person.--MegaTron1XD 14:40, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, Mr.Anon didn't include the full IP number before I made my post. He has now and the IP has been blocked. Omega Tyrant 14:47, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

68.150.169.181 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 01:51, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

24.186.144.240 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 04:02, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Alexander Acre (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · Acre WHOIS) Anon 23:44, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

71.86.201.239 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Sir Anon the great 04:50, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

WolfLink33 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 16:14, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

That's not vandalism. Please read SW:AGF and stop reporting people that aren't vandals. Shadowcrest 18:06, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

95.149.45.121 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 14:36, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

217.155.195.118 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 12:18, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

174.31.151.96 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 05:14, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

67.183.198.191 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 02:06, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

68.150.169.181 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 20:49, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

174.31.151.96 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 06:25, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

173.76.228.205 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) DP99 (CTE) 05:04, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

209.150.49.37 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) DP99 (CTE) 05:04, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

68.184.40.187 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) DP99 (CTE) 03:16, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm gonna let this one pass for now. We'll see if he causes any more trouble. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 03:35, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

71.7.209.56 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Sir Anon the great 05:02, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

92.8.100.131 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) DP99 (CTE) 16:57, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

71.75.81.43 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Dr. Pain 99 (talk) 23:32, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

75.41.228.138 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Dr. Pain 99 (talk) 23:32, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

71.225.233.74 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) DP99 02:02, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

How is this guy a vandal? Omega Tyrant 02:05, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I fucked up. I thought since someone used rollback against the guys edits he was a vandal; I didn't bother to check, because of i was afraid of freezing. Won't happen again. DP99 02:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's my fault. I used rollback against him as his edits seemed unncecesary at the time, an it's not like you can leave an explanation for rollback. Mr. Anon teh awsome 04:39, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

76.111.66.108 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Dr. Pain 99 Talk 19:32, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

24.203.65.24 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Dr. Pain 99 Talk 19:05, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

AJB15 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Dr. Pain 99 Talk 18:03, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

174.31.156.52 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Mr. Anon teh awsome 06:02, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

190.209.182.214 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Dr. Pain 99 Talk 23:43, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hemley1 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log · WHOIS) Dr. Pain 99 Talk 15:33, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Koopas

I think that merging all Koopa-related pages together would be a good idea (which isn't too surprising, it being my idea). Describe everything in terms of Green Koopas, then explain the differences between the Green and Red versions for each form. Have one section on each of the forms of Koopa-kind: Shell; Koopa Troopa; Koopa Paratroopa. Describe how jumping on / attacking a Koopa Paratroopa turns it into a Koopa Troopa, how jumping on / attacking a Koopa Troopa turns it into a Shell for a period of time, and how these shells cannot take damage, but can be thrown to do damage, and can be destroyed by throwing them off the screen. Have two pictures of each of the forms, one of each colour, and a picture of each of the relevant trophies. Currently there are at least eight pages on Koopa-kind - there need only be one or two.
I'm not sure if the Green Shell (Item) and Red Shell (Item) pages could be incorporated into the one page, as there is quite a lot to say about them (e.g. damage lists) but even if they couldn't be part of the main Koopa page, they could be made into one Shell (Item) page, removing all references to the shells found in the Subspace Emissary in Brawl. The following are the Koopa pages that would be affected by the move:

• Green Koopa Troopa
• Red Koopa Troopa
• Green Shell
• Red Shell
• Koopa Paratroopa
• Red Koopa Paratroopa
• Green shell glitch (which doesn't even have an appropriate name)
• Red Shell Glitch (which is the same glitch as the above)

PenguinofDeath 11:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Aside from keeping the items Green Shell and Red Shell separate, I concur. Miles (talk) 20:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Would you put everything Koopa-related all on the one page? Wouldn't that make it horribly long? Also, if the above Koopa plan is viable, I think a similar thing should be done about the members of the R.O.B. Squad, just because having a page for each member leaves the pages very short, but with a lot of repetition between them. In other news, is my signature okay? I seem to be the only person to have used the <big> coding...

PenguinofDeath 21:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

A long article isn't bad by default; rather, a complete one is desirable. On second thought, though, Koopa Troopas (both colors) should be one page and Koopa Paratroopas should be another.

And for sig rules, read on. Miles (talk) 21:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Damn... I knew there was a reason why that code was never used. About the Koopa Paratroopas, is there really enough to say about them to justify their own page? And is there so little to say about Shells as items that their own page is not justified? I'd have thought that the Koopa Paratroopas were the least important of all Koopa-kind (I'm determined to make that a real phrase). I don't mind. So long as some sort of cleanup occurs, I'll be happy. Just point me (or whoever you want to do it) in the right direction, and I'll write the relevant pages. PenguinofDeath 22:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

R.O.B. Squad

After the above discussion with Miles, I reworked all R.O.B. enemy pages into one R.O.B. Squad page. What do you think?
I haven't moved the original pages, and it's all one edit, so just undo it if you don't think it's appropriate. PenguinofDeath 11:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd use that article to describe the R.O.B. Squad as a whole, and do a quick summary of each kind of R.O.B. enemy. However, I'd keep the other three articles separate from this one. Miles (talk) 12:59, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Image removal

It seems that multiple users, including Sonic64 and various IPs, cannot save the Palette swap (SSBB) page without all the images getting deleted. What the heck is going on? Toomai Glittershine The Table Designer cntrbs 22:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Correction: it seems that some users cannot edit any pages without the images being removed somehow. The problem seems to be unique to new users. Toomai Glittershine The Stats Guy cntrbs 22:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I tried editing a page with a new account and without being logged it, but I couldn't reproduce it. --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 23:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

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The answer is the new rich text editor (RTE) which I'm sure most older users disabled. It causes problems like:

• Removing page content (images in particular).
• Breaking tables.
• Breaks formatting by eliminating linebreaks near <br> tags.

(for a more complete list see here)

Do we want to disable this RTE for all editors? --Shadowcrest 17:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Auto Disable it, and if people want it enough, they can turn it on for themselves. New users won't be able to understand most likely.Smoreking^(T) _(c) 17:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

It might be a good idea to make an announcement. Something like "It has been discovered that Wikia's new Rich Text Editor causes problems such as image removal. Please disable it in your preferences." Toomai Glittershine eXemplary Logic cntrbs 18:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

We can auto-disable it for all users on the wiki, who can re-enable it in their preferences if they wish. Imo that's a much easier solution that putting it in sitenotice, which most people ignore anyway. Shadowcrest 18:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Shadowcrest. Miles (talk) 18:56, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

IP users (the ones who seem the worst affected) couldn't change it in their preferences, as they don't have an account, and even if they could, it would be unfair to rely on them to change their preferences themselves, so putting out a notice wouldn't work. Auto-disabling the Rich Text Editor is the only option. PenguinofDeath 19:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

What Penguin said. --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 20:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

→ copied from User talk:Clarinet Hawk:

Wikia response:
We cant do that. Its either on at the wiki, or its off. The setting to use it is on a per user setting in their global settings, we cant make it "default off" at a wiki. So if the extension is enabled at a wiki, all the people who opt to use it can, and it is turned on in the settings of all new users (something we cant adjust per wiki, since accounts are global, they dont actually get created at any 1 wiki).

So basically, we can't auto-disable it. I don't know what else we could do, aside from preventing IPs from editing and making new users disable the RTE themselves, but that seems rather extreme. :/ PenguinofDeath 17:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I think the best we can do is to somehow alert users of the problem, and just damage control the IP edits until the RTE is fixed. I know that announcements are ignored by some, but I don't see what else can be done. Toomai Glittershine The Stats Guy cntrbs 19:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

(end of copied posts)

According to [w:c:guildwars:User:M.mendel], the RTE will probably never be bug-free. He thinks that unless wikia scraps the current one and designs an entirely new one, there will always be problems with it, such as image removal or messed up tables. (See here for a written declaration; he also told me on IRC "I think it will never be completely bug-free when it deals with wikicode".) Seeing that auto-disable is not an option, should we consider disabling the RTE on the wiki? (Also keep in mind that we can add it later if they do get around to fixing it.) I don't know about you all, but running damage control for forever seems like a waste of time to me. --Shadowcrest 02:38, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Endless damage control is boring, so either disable it, or block IPs from editing (if possible). The latter would save us a lot of trouble in other areas, but would greatly reduce the number of good faith edits as well. I'm not sure - one of the two. PenguinofDeath 04:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm with Shadowcrest on getting rid of it for the whole wiki, at least til it's less glitchy. Miles (talk) 19:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm also in favor of disabling the RTE. The limited benefits of having the RTE enabled are far outweighed by the hassle it creates. – Defiant Elements +talk 18:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Requesting article deletion

I'd like to request that the article written about me in the smashers section be removed. I do not want my personal information open to the internet. This is the page: [[Smasher:Levi]. I am removing all personal information regarding myself until the entire article is deleted. Also I am removing my brother's name from his page to maintain his anonymity. The article on him: [Smasher:Neat]]. Mariownage (talk) 08:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

If you think an article should be deleted, please tag it using {{delete|reason why it should be deleted}}. PenguinofDeath 08:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)