User talk:DekZek/SSBD

Sad

Awww I don't want to cut the clones :( ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 14:07, 8 December 2015 (EST)

I don't want to cut Dr. Mario or Dark Pit. Let's work this out first... :P Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 15:06, 8 December 2015 (EST)

Also my waifu Lucina, why don't we just completely declone them if we're worried about being clones? I think we can work together to declone them. Disaster Flare (talk) 15:07, 8 December 2015 (EST)

I don't mind clones. Hell, if I had put Natsu and/or Gajeel in alongside Wendy, all three of them would at least be semi-clones (because Dragon Slayer Magic tends to be mostly the same from Dragon Slayer to Dragon Slayer). Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 16:10, 8 December 2015 (EST)

Do we really even need to Luigify them? Tbh I have a few ideas for more clones and it would seem weird if the old ones were all non-cloned just for new ones to come in. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:18, 19 December 2015 (EST)

I was going to make Lucina's article, but if you want it, go ahead. But do we really need to declone the semi-clones? Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 15:29, 19 December 2015 (EST)

I mainly put that as a possibility in case somebody wanted to, but it's not required. Disaster Flare (talk) 15:29, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Oh ok. I asked because I'm not sure if Luigi, Lucas or even Roy could be considered semi-clones. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 15:33, 19 December 2015 (EST)

The Toom Raider says otherwise unfortunately. Disaster Flare (talk) 15:33, 19 December 2015 (EST)

(edit conflict) I mean if you have an idea for Lucina go ahead and implement it, but I don't think the clones need to be Luigified if people don't have actual ideas for them. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:34, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Dammit Toomai and your flawless logic... Anyway, expect a Lucina article within a few days. I hope. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 15:36, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Suggestion

Maybe we could do the list of newcomers in a similar vein to this? That way everyone can see the pictures we've been using for them, as well as series symbols as we get them done. I could even do it if you're okay with this idea. Disaster Flare (talk) 16:12, 8 December 2015 (EST)

I was thinking something along the lines of that. Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 16:13, 8 December 2015 (EST)

Wanted characters?

Idk some of them seem too likely to be added to Smash 4. Like K. Rool, Inklings, and Isaac. Wasn't the point of this characters who have no shot whatsoever? (Like, y'know, Twilight Sparkle and Deadpool.) :P ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 12:06, 9 December 2015 (EST)

Frankly, in my opinion, K. Rool fits right into that category...but that's a personal opinion. Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 12:19, 9 December 2015 (EST)

He's the most wanted character from the ballot worldwide by a pretty large margin. It seems dumb for Sakurai to not add him. (That's also the only reason I consider Isaac likely; he's in second by a large margin..) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 12:51, 9 December 2015 (EST)

As of now I have no interest in doing any of the ones laid out, but I do have an idea for a Pokémon rep, which I might do after finishing Yang's page. Disaster Flare (talk) 18:52, 10 December 2015 (EST)

Just so we're clear

I'd love to do Layton. I really would. He has a lot of potential for a moveset, and his huge history with Nintendo gives him a worthy spot in Smash itself, whether it be this or in an actual game.

But here's the thing. I have absolutely no clue about special moves. Like, I can make up some fancy fencing shit for his normal attacks, and I have a pretty good idea of what his Final Smash would be, but other than that, I have no idea on what his specials would be (let alone customs).

So yea, Layton's a no go. Out of all the people on this wiki, I'd definitely be the first person to do this. But, as it stands now, I have next to no idea how his moveset would work. Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 12:46, 11 December 2015 (EST)

Whoa

I'd just like to say I'm impressed with how far you have gone with this project. I'd help out but idk how to upload on mobile. Ganonmew, The Festive Evil Clone 22:57, 11 December 2015 (EST)

I take credit for Yang and Deadpool! XD Disaster Flare (talk) 23:04, 11 December 2015 (EST)

I have to say...

This is impressive so far. So, I'd like to help you guys with all of that. I was thinking about starting with Knuckles and Lucina. Is that okay? Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 07:22, 12 December 2015 (EST)

Sure. Right now, I am focusing on the Trainer and their Pokémon, which I probably won't be finished with until after this week. The main reason I decided to do six instead of five is because one of my friends is working on a moveset for Eevee. I still need to decide if I will use Hawlucha to replace Luxray, though, as there is no trophy. DekZek, The Festive Fighter 10:16, 12 December 2015 (EST)

Hawlucha probably has a better potential moveset than Luxray. I don't see why you can't go all out and just do both though. Also, can I reserve Sableye for this project? He's one of my favorites and I already have a general moveset planned out for him. Laikue (talk | contribs) 23:52, 12 December 2015 (EST)

1/2 done

It's finally over... I don't have much time to update the templates, so I'll leave that to you. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 09:16, 13 December 2015 (EST)

Hope this is okay

I went and made a Young Link profile. Though rather than going with the smashified young link that was suggested on the main page, i went with his Hyrule Warriors incarnation. I figure having him ditch the sword and shield move set, and have him no longer be a clone, would be the ideal way to go. Hope thats okay.
Ixbran (talk) 14:40, 14 December 2015 (EST)

I need help deciding xD

I have a bunch of ideas for the next character I want to do, but I can't decide which one I want to do most. So, I want opinions- who would you want to see?

• Nabbit
• Daisy
• Geno
• 8-Bit Mario
• Tetrimino
• Isabelle
• Pikmin Captains
• Aipom
• Gligar
• Plusle & Minun
• Mallo
• eShop Bag

---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:46, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Bumping this since it was buried in vandalism. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:11, 19 December 2015 (EST)

I'd honestly like to see either 8-Bit Mario, Tetrimino, or Geno. In the meantime, I have a joke character planned, my boy. Disaster Flare (talk) 17:12, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Hmmm okay.

I have a hunch xD ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:13, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Let's hear it, I'm curious as to what you think, I won't tell you what it is though if you're right or wrong. XD Disaster Flare (talk) 17:14, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Elementary, mah boi. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:17, 19 December 2015 (EST)

So close xD ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 07:08, 20 December 2015 (EST)

Gee, it sure is boring around here! XD Disaster Flare (talk) 12:16, 20 December 2015 (EST)

Mallo pls Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 12:20, 20 December 2015 (EST)

I'm too creative, so I came up with more ideas:

• Bug Catcher
• Youngster Joey
• Malon & Epona
• Dr. Luigi
• Mickey Mouse
• Perry the Platypus

I'm doomed... ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 13:08, 20 December 2015 (EST)

Look.

I respect that you guys are having fun with this, but the sheer number of images, pages, and edits involved is getting kind of heavy. Could you maybe dial it back a bit? I'm not saying stop completely or anything, and I don't want to be too heavy-handed with this, but it's getting to the point where it's a lot to filter through in the recent changes. Miles (talk) 16:24, 23 December 2015 (EST)

I have to agree with Miles here. People are starting to focus too much on this, which was my big concern here. I plan on taking a break from SSBD, and I hope you guys can dial it back as well. Disaster Flare (talk) 16:41, 23 December 2015 (EST)

I'd like to point out that, while I would love to (and have been meaning to) contribute to the mainspace more, there hasn't been a lot for me to do, especially considering how a lot of people already are contributing a lot (and, frankly, beating me to it). Granted, I'm more focused on adding content and shit as opposed to images and the like, but my point still stands. Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 18:13, 23 December 2015 (EST)

I personally don't see it as a huge problem. There's not much left to cover from the Cloud update, and we won't be hearing anything new Smash-wise until late January/early February. And I don't know of any users that have done nothing but this, they have been helping around the wiki too. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 18:28, 23 December 2015 (EST)

Would either of you consider helping with the competitive articles? That's something that can be done, and while time consuming, is not particularly difficult. John PK SMAAAASH!! 18:41, 23 December 2015 (EST)

It is a little intense, to be honest. I'm trying to update my pages a few times a week at most, and I would encourage others to do the same. We do have 2,500+ things left to do, after all. Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 18:35, 23 December 2015 (EST)

One of the reasons why Toomai wasn't able to update Smash Arena for 8 months. We still have lots to do before we can have fun, since this kind of stuff is privileged, not a right. Dots (talk) The End 18:43, 23 December 2015 (EST)

I am very sorry, but I feel like I have to bring this up again. Skimming the RC, I see that at least one in every three edits is for SSBD. I am asking as kindly as I possibly can: please guys, let's tone it back, this is out of control. I really, REALLY, do not want to take action, as I do realize this is a project meant for fun, not meant to disturb. Thank you all for your understanding. Serpent King 22:00, 8 January 2016 (EST)

やれやれ...I've been meaning to tone down, to be honest... Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 22:02, 8 January 2016 (EST)

To be fair, most of that is me adding Elsa to all of the pages she has to be added to. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:05, 8 January 2016 (EST)

That's just it. Each new character adds so many new pages that it sort of floods over the rest of the wiki, to the point where I am finding it difficult to keep up with everything. I am asking that we dial it back to, maybe, 10 edits tops per person, per day. Preferably less if you aren't adding a character. Serpent King 22:08, 8 January 2016 (EST)

I understand but I just got started with this. Dots (talk) The Ball 22:09, 8 January 2016 (EST)

I was going to add a character right now, but it'll be my last one; after that and a stage for him I'll likely take a break from the project. Is it fine? DracoRex the Dino King (RAWR!) 22:13, 8 January 2016 (EST)

The way it stands, each character requires between two and four images (artwork and head icon always, plus the possibility of costumes and a series symbol). They must be listed on the table and template, have a boxing ring name and Palutena's Guidance, plus if there's a new series symbol it has to be added to the list of series symbols. Then there's also to-do lists or userspace navigation templates (I know I have both, I think DF does too). So that means between six and eleven edits necessary for one character page, not counting any typos or anything that we might miss while previewing (i.e. "her sister Elsa") Although I don't think it really hides anything at a time like this when nothing's going on (besides vandal attacks, which I doubt we'll be missing anytime soon), that is an unnecessarily large amount of edits.

What might make it easier would be to merge the Palutena's Guidance, Series Symbol, and Stage/Character lists with the main page. That merges three edits and brings it down to between five and ten. We could also merge the Boxing Ring list, but since we have a page for Boxing Ring idk. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:15, 8 January 2016 (EST)

Palutena's Guidance and Series Symbol are their own pages on the wiki. Character/Stage lists are separate templates to save space on the page as a whole. And that's specifically why I made the list for Boxing Ring separate. So really, there's not a lot we can work with. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 22:19, 8 January 2016 (EST)

Actually, Nutta, this just occurred to me.

Given the big ass list of characters you have yet to make, why not do the PG and BR shit in dumps? You know, make a few characters, update those lists, rinse and repeat. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 22:25, 8 January 2016 (EST)

I could. But there's usually a week or so gap between me making characters (this week was an exception because I suddenly got inspiration for Elsa), and between Black Cat and Inkling was almost three weeks. Plus knowing me I'd probably forget >.> ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:28, 8 January 2016 (EST)

やれやれ...ah well. We'll see what we can do, SK.

Also, Nutta, check your fuckin email. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 22:38, 8 January 2016 (EST)

Thanks guys. Serpent King 22:40, 8 January 2016 (EST)

I do want to point out that you can do a lot without uploading images directly. For example, I resized and hosted images for that page on imgur so I could use them without clutter here. Miles (talk) 22:40, 8 January 2016 (EST)

Modes

Is it good if anyone makes pages for modes as well as characters? Because why not? ScoreCounter 15:05, 26 December 2015 (EST)

I don't know if pages would be good. I mean, unless if it's a sequel to the SSE...

...actually, now that I think about it... Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 15:49, 26 December 2015 (EST)

By the way, has anyone thought of how catastrophically long All-Star would be with all the newcomers? Lol. DracoRex the Dino King (RAWR!) 20:56, 28 December 2015 (EST)

.... -looks at the roster- -takes my sunglasses off- Mother of God... Disaster Flare (talk) 21:01, 28 December 2015 (EST)

*starts playing Eye of the Tiger* Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 21:02, 28 December 2015 (EST)

I already have a plot idea for a new Subspace Emissary-type mode, so I can handle that later. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:58, 1 January 2016 (EST)

Of course, I'll need to know at least a majority of the roster so that the smallest amount of characters possible gets left out. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:00, 1 January 2016 (EST)

I'll be in charge of making Deadpool sound like Deadpool in the mode then. XD Disaster Flare (talk) 17:01, 1 January 2016 (EST)

New character

Ad in SpongeBob someone:b:Patty Flip side b:Sponge Punch up b:Sponge Fly down b:Jellyfish Net Final Smash:Invincibubble symbol:Krabby Patty Assist Trophy:Patrick Patrick's Effect:Puts mayo isle on the floor,which acts like a banana peel:Victory Theme:Da SpongeBob Theme Mii Costume:Squid ward with clarinet sword Boxing Ring Title:Sea Warrior (I have no sig,OK

New requests

Hello there. Might i request some new things that i think would be pretty cool to be added to the mix?

• Characters

• Chrom - Fire Emblem
• Shovel Knight - Shovel Knight
• Simon Belmont - Castlevania
• Chrono - Chrono Trigger

• Music

• Zinnia Theme - Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
• Don't Speak Her Name - Fire Emblem Awakening
• Fire Field - F-Zero GX
• One Winged Angel - Final Fantasy VII

Hope i wasn't bother. Good day! ZeldasmashTalk 18:54, 12 January 2016 (EST)

You could add them yourself :P ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 18:56, 12 January 2016 (EST)

He was once probated, and I don't think he wants to take the risk. 98.157.202.185 20:03, 12 January 2016 (EST)

That's pretty fair.

Still, I already have a pretty long list of the characters I want to do, and most users also have a list. If you want these characters made, you should either do it yourself or be reeeeeeeally patient. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 20:06, 12 January 2016 (EST)

Choosing veterans (and adding a newcomer)

Is it possible for me to have dibs on Palu, G&W, ZSS and Roy? Also, I want to add Prince Fluff to the newcomers. -- The 70's called. They said BeepYou was here :v 11:47, 15 January 2016 (EST)

I...guess? Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 11:47, 15 January 2016 (EST)

Was expecting DekZek to respond since he's the project's owner. Ah well. -- The 70's called. They said BeepYou was here :v 11:53, 15 January 2016 (EST)

You asked for it, so that counts. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 12:34, 15 January 2016 (EST)

This

umm Nintendofan1653 (talk) the true north strong and free 17:33, 19 January 2016 (EST)

XL got the idea from DNK on IRC last night. I'm rather curious.... XD Disaster Flare (talk) 17:36, 19 January 2016 (EST)

Hehe, I can't wait xD ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:36, 19 January 2016 (EST)

*Jeopardy think music* Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 17:37, 19 January 2016 (EST)

(edit conflict)Wait until the Bot quits being obnoxiously secretive.DekZek 17:37, 19 January 2016 (EST)

not into ssbd though i have made hitmonchan Nintendofan1653 (talk) the true north strong and free 17:40, 19 January 2016 (EST)

So that I know

Since I'm planning on doing a story mode for this game using all of the characters as many characters possible, I want to know: how many fighters does everyone currently plan to add soon?

Just note that if you don't make the character before I start on the story mode (which, depending on the amount of characters I'm told about, should be in a couple of weeks) they won't be in the story, but will be like Toon Link, Wolf, and Jigglypuff. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:44, 20 January 2016 (EST)

I'm good on characters, but I can give statistics.

As it stands now, you're working with 101 characters. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 15:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)

However, I do know that Disaster Flare has two more characters coming, but I think that's about it in terms of what I know. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 15:47, 20 January 2016 (EST)

Nice, I already have an idea of what my characters could do in a story mode. (And, as I stated previously, I won't be doing any more of them.) DracoRex the Dino King (RAWR!) 15:49, 20 January 2016 (EST)

105+? Sounds like fun. (Draco, if you have an email, shoot me one with the info - datnuttykid@gmail - if not just message me on chat or something :P) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:50, 20 January 2016 (EST)

I know he has a Skype; and actually, Nutta, if you have one too, you can join the daily conversations me and DRex have. :D Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 15:52, 20 January 2016 (EST)

I have one but, once again, it's my personal account xD I might open one up, probably not though because laziness. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:52, 20 January 2016 (EST)

I have one character who is mostly complete. I plan on revealing him soon. I have another character who is still in the concepts phase. When do you plan on writing the story? This is funny, I had my own plans for a "Dream Super Smash Bros. Subspace Emissary-like story" before SSBD was invented, but I do not plan on posting it. No one would care about it (understandably) since it would include very obscure characters, OCs, and inside jokes. John PK SMAAAASH!! 15:54, 20 January 2016 (EST)

Well, I still have two characters I personally want to do (the first of which will be released tomorrow) so at least 15 days from now. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:55, 20 January 2016 (EST)

New page for Link on SSBD

I made a new page for Link on SSBD. May I add it to Disaster Flare's Newcomers Table template? Is there anything I need to do to the page for Link? -- Ethan (Discussion) 15:42, 21 January 2016 (EST)

You don't need DekZek's permission to do it. As long as you don't interfere with other edits, it is fine. -- The 70's called. They said BeepYou was here :v (talk) 16:11, 21 January 2016 (EST)

Thanks! I didn't think I need a response only from DekZek. I'll replace the Smash 4 link with my SSBD link for Link. -- Ethan (Discussion) 16:15, 21 January 2016 (EST)

Separated Pokemon

Since Squirtle and Ivysaur are now separated from Pokemon Trainer much like Charizard was in SSB4, shouldn't we make SSBD pages for them? I'll be willing to do so if nobody else wants to. Apihedron talk 22:17, 21 January 2016 (EST)