Talk:AKANEIA

Does anyone have pictures of this we can put on here=???

The stage is glitched and can't be opened without crashing the game. Ergo, no pictures. WaluigiIsAwesome 22:20, November 10, 2007 (EST)

Weren't there claims that pieces of the stage were uncovered through hacking though? --RoyboyX (talk) 20:38, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

I'm not aware of any progress made in hacking this stage. Omega Tyrant 20:58, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

There have been claims, but no proof. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 12:35, 11 September 2011 (EDT)

Do you think this stage was never even programmed in at all? --RoyboyX (talk) 13:14, 11 September 2011 (EDT)

Don't know, but that itself would be speculation, and will not be put in the article unless definitive proof is presented. Omega Tyrant 19:03, 11 September 2011 (EDT)

My guess is that it is lacking something important that causes the game to crash. Mr. Anon (talk) 19:08, 11 September 2011 (EDT)

True

Actually the rumor is true because someone fully access AKANEIA without any crashing. Do I know this person, no, did they show what can fully access AKANEIA, no. (Smashworker101 (talk) 12:24, 27 November 2014 (EST))

"The following error is left in the Log:"

What is this all about, then? Where does Melee keep a log of events?

--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 18:12, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

It's a visible output that you can see when emulating. Pretty much all games do this. Serpent King 19:43, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

Reference this. Serpent King 19:49, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

Hm... Interesting, but is it notable to the page? We don't have similar information on other pages about what Dolphin's Log says in the midst of gameplay.

--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 20:55, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

This is also the only crash case in the game that hides possible game content though Serpent King 21:01, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

What about accessing DUMMY, ICETOP, or 10-2 without a crash prevent code?

--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 21:09, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

That's just it, there exist methods of accessing those stages. There is no known method of accessing AKANEIA. Serpent King 21:48, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

I was asking if accessing these stages without a crash prevention code causes a message to pop up in the Log. ب_ب

--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 21:53, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

Uh not sure, let me try it. Serpent King 22:02, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

Yes, it does [1]. What is more, what makes DUMMY crash is a lack of a background music pointer, which I assume is what the AR crash prevent code provides. Perhaps that should go here. Serpent King 22:05, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

Fair enough. Can you at all try testing ICETOP and 10-2 to see what sort of errors they throw up?

--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 02:22, 3 June 2016 (EDT)

(reset indent) Already did, not sure what these ones mean: ICETOP, 10-2, Trophy Collector on trophy load, Mushroom Kingdom on Yoshi load (sorry about the texture glitches, forgot to configure graphics...) Serpent King 02:31, 3 June 2016 (EDT)

I will say that it looks like the game tried and failed to scale something in the Mushroom Kingdom one. "scale!=0.0F" is a conditional testing for a variable called "scale" to be not equal to 0.0F (which I am pretty sure is hexadecimal for 0.15, not positive how non-whole numbers work in hex though). Serpent King 02:37, 3 June 2016 (EDT)

No it's not hex, it's "0.0 the float (as opposed to int)". So it's a check to ensure that something doesn't have a size of zero. Toomai Glittershine The Irrepressible 10:00, 3 June 2016 (EDT)

"Akaneia" redirect

Is there any reason that this stage is the one outlier of the Melee debug stages in that it doesn't have a redirect with lowercase characters? There was one at some point, which was deleted on the base that it was unnecessary. Shouldn't this be the case with all of the others' redirects, then? — Nokii (T·C·L) 10:36, 9 October 2018 (EDT)

Dummy and Test probably should be. There is no "Icetop" and 10-2 has no alphabetic characters. Serpent  King 10:40, 9 October 2018 (EDT)

There's no Icetop, but there IS IceTop, though, which I assume falls under "unnecessary redirect" as well.

I'll go ahead and mark them for speedy deletion, if you aren't already planning in deleting them.

— Nokii (T·C·L) 10:51, 9 October 2018 (EDT)

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Honestly, someone needs to edit the AKANEIA page in this wiki and say someone has found evidence of AKANEIA ACTUALLY BEING there. What the heck, I don't even know at this point. I've tried, like, fifteen different fandoms, NO ONE HAS ANY EVIDENCE—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.131.123.253 (talk • contribs) 21:58, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

"Unsubstantiated rumors claim that pieces of it can be isolated or viewed within the game's data, but no evidence proves that anyone has successfully accessed AKANEIA or discovered any unique elements for it." For all I know, there is nothing other than the name in the debug menu and an interview with Sakurai. You can probably stop looking on other fandom sites because they'll probably tell you the same thing. --CanvasK (talk) 22:25, August 26, 2021 (EDT)

Well... I guess my next mission is to find the guy who actually DID hack AKANEIA. And I think the reason AKANEIA is unable to load is because it takes up so much data that the game cant process it. By the way, you wouldn't happen to know the person who hacked AKANEIA would yall? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.95.183.62 (talk • contribs) 09:16, August 27, 2021 (EDT)

Again, if you read what Canvas had above, there is no evidence that anyone actually loaded AKANEIA. It’s most likely what you heard is just a rumor or someone lying about their experience, because if someone were to load AKANEIA, it would be big news right now. CookiesCreme 09:34, August 27, 2021 (EDT)

Alright then what's all that talk about the person who did hack it? If I remember correctly, they said, "Actually the rumors are true. I heard someone who hacked AKANEIA without any crashing." Tbh, SOMEONE needs to get some evidence. I've only been working on this 3 days and I alr have a headache. ... Wait, could someone try to hack it without using the codes? Like, as in, force the files to load? Is that possible? It says in the wiki page that there are no codes known that can hack it, so why not hack it directly instead of using codes? If anyone has the game and the game system and can hack it, please tell me what you find.

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I sound like a noob to yall dont I?

To be honest, if you're spending 3 days on this, you're looking into this way too much. If it does exist, then it will pop up on social media within the next few weeks or so. Nevertheless, we do not have the information here, nor do anyone of us believe it actually exists. CookiesCreme 12:02, August 27, 2021 (EDT)