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==Overview==
==Overview==
[[File:Meta Knight Down Smash Hitbox Brawl.png|thumb|The two hitboxes of Meta Knight's d-smash]]
[[File:Meta Knight Down Smash Hitbox Brawl.png|thumb|The two [[hitbox]]es of Meta Knight's d-smash]]
Meta Knight slashes in front of him and then quickly slashes behind him, with the back slash being stronger than the front. This is considered Meta Knight's best KO move, having a combination of extremely fast start-up lag, great [[transcendent]] [[reach]], and the back slash being his second strongest move from neutral. It is also considered the best [[down smash]] in ''[[Brawl]]'', as not only is it one of the stronger down smashes, but it is also among the fastest [[start-up lag]] wise, tied with {{mvsub|Wolf|SSBB|down smash|alt=Wolf's}} for fastest in overall duration, and has among the best reach. The move is also difficult to [[punish]] if used and [[space]]d correctly, due to rather low [[ending lag]] and outreaching the majority of attacks in ''Brawl''.  
Meta Knight slashes in front of him and then quickly slashes behind him, with the back [[slash]] being stronger than the front. This is considered Meta Knight's best [[KO]] move, having a combination of extremely fast [[start-up lag|startup lag]], great [[transcendent]] [[reach]], and the back [[slash]] being his second strongest move from neutral. It is also considered the best [[down smash]] in ''[[Brawl]]'' on par with {{mvsub|Wolf|SSBB|Down smash|alt=Wolf's}}, as not only has solid KO power, but it is also among the fastest down smashes. It comes out on frame 5, giving it the 4th shortest startup lag out of any down smash along with {{mvsub|Mario|SSBB|Down smash|alt=Mario's}}, {{mvsub|Luigi|SSBB|Down smash|alt=Luigi's}} and {{mvsub|Pit|SSBB|Down smash|alt=Pit's}}. It also has an FAF of 35, making it tied with {{SSBB|Wolf}}'s and {{mvsub|R.O.B.|SSBB|Down smash|alt=R.O.B.'s}} for having the second shortest total duration out of any down smash (although it does have relatively higher ending lag than both). Additionally when the move is buffered out of another animation, the move is one frame faster, making it tied for having the lowest startup lag and total duration out of every down smash. It also has among the best reach, making it difficult to [[punish]] if used and [[space]]d correctly, especially due to its relatively low ending lag.


Both slashes have high base knockback, and can KO especially well near [[blast line]]s. Their knockback scaling isn't as high, though the back slash has enough to still KO heavier characters reliably even with [[DI]] and [[momentum cancel]]ling factored. The front slash however can have difficulty KOing under 150% under the aforementioned conditions (though due to its start-up, it can often catch opponents offguard and keep them from DIing properly). Due to the back slash still coming out reasonably fast, Meta Knights will often turn around before using down smash to land the stronger back slash (the back slash is also less punishable, due to greater [[shield stun]] and the move being nearer to the end of its duration). While usually conserved by competent Meta Knights to keep the move [[fresh]], its effective capability as a "get off me" move see it used as a stronger alternative to [[Shuttle Loop]] and [[Mach Tornado]] when the Meta Knight is being [[pressure]]d.
Both slashes have high base [[knockback]], and can [[KO]] especially well near [[blast line]]s. Their [[knockback]] scaling isn't as high, though the back [[slash]] has enough to still [[KO]] heavier characters reliably even with [[DI]] and [[momentum cancel]]ling factored. The front [[slash]] however can have difficulty KOing under 150% under the aforementioned conditions (though due to its start-up, it can often catch opponents offguard and keep them from [[DI]]'ing properly). Due to the back slash still coming out reasonably fast, {{SSBB|Meta Knight}} players will often turn around before using [[down smash]] to land the stronger back [[slash]] (the back [[slash]] is also less [[punish]]able, due to greater [[shield stun]] and the move being nearer to the end of its duration). While usually conserved by competent Meta Knights to keep the move [[fresh]], its effective capability as a "get off me" move sees it used as a stronger alternative to [[Shuttle Loop]] and [[Mach Tornado]] when the Meta Knight is being [[pressure]]d.


Overall it's an excellent and not difficult to use move that is heavily used in all levels of play, and that is commonly seen as straddling the [[broken]] threshold.
Overall, Meta Knight's down smash is an excellent and not difficult to use move that is heavily used in all levels of play, and that is commonly seen as straddling the [[broken]] threshold.
 
===Post hit data===
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|-
|Front slash||2485||28.863||113.12%||128.71%||150.37%
|-
|Back slash||2575||32.267||98.40%||112.34%||131.71%
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==Hitboxes==
==Hitboxes==
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{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 1|24}}
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|char=Meta Knight
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|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|11}}
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{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
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{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
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|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|11}}
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{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
|char=Meta Knight
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|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|11}}
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{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 2|24}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 2|24}}
{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
|char=Meta Knight
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|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|13}}
|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|13}}
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{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
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|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|13}}
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{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
|char=Meta Knight
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|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|13}}
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{{BrawlHitboxTableRow
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|char=Meta Knight
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|damage={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|13}}
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|}
==Timing==
==Timing==
{|class="wikitable"
{|class="wikitable"
|-
|-
!Charges between
!Charges between
|1-2
|0-1
|-
|-
!Hitboxes
!Hitboxes
|5-6, 10-11
|4-5, 9-10
|-
|-
!Animation length
!Animation length
|34
|33
|}
|}


{{FrameStripStart}}
{{FrameStripStart}}
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1|e=LagChargeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=23}}
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3|s=LagChargeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=23}}
|-
{{FrameStripEnd}}
{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=34}}
|}


{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|charge=y}}
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|charge=y}}
==Trivia==
*Meta Knight is supposed to vocalize down smash during the animation before the move starts charging like his {{mvsub|Meta Knight|SSBB|forward smash}} and {{mvsub|Meta Knight|SSBB|up smash}}, however the animation is 0 frames and as a result, the voice clip does not play. This would be fixed in ''Smash 4'', where Meta Knight vocalizes his smash attacks when the hitboxes come out.


{{MvSubNavMetaKnight|g=SSBB}}
{{MvSubNavMetaKnight|g=SSBB}}

Latest revision as of 08:39, April 17, 2021

Overview[edit]

The two hitboxes of Meta Knight's d-smash in Brawl.
The two hitboxes of Meta Knight's d-smash

Meta Knight slashes in front of him and then quickly slashes behind him, with the back slash being stronger than the front. This is considered Meta Knight's best KO move, having a combination of extremely fast startup lag, great transcendent reach, and the back slash being his second strongest move from neutral. It is also considered the best down smash in Brawl on par with Wolf's, as not only has solid KO power, but it is also among the fastest down smashes. It comes out on frame 5, giving it the 4th shortest startup lag out of any down smash along with Mario's, Luigi's and Pit's. It also has an FAF of 35, making it tied with Wolf's and R.O.B.'s for having the second shortest total duration out of any down smash (although it does have relatively higher ending lag than both). Additionally when the move is buffered out of another animation, the move is one frame faster, making it tied for having the lowest startup lag and total duration out of every down smash. It also has among the best reach, making it difficult to punish if used and spaced correctly, especially due to its relatively low ending lag.

Both slashes have high base knockback, and can KO especially well near blast lines. Their knockback scaling isn't as high, though the back slash has enough to still KO heavier characters reliably even with DI and momentum cancelling factored. The front slash however can have difficulty KOing under 150% under the aforementioned conditions (though due to its start-up, it can often catch opponents offguard and keep them from DI'ing properly). Due to the back slash still coming out reasonably fast, Meta Knight players will often turn around before using down smash to land the stronger back slash (the back slash is also less punishable, due to greater shield stun and the move being nearer to the end of its duration). While usually conserved by competent Meta Knights to keep the move fresh, its effective capability as a "get off me" move sees it used as a stronger alternative to Shuttle Loop and Mach Tornado when the Meta Knight is being pressured.

Overall, Meta Knight's down smash is an excellent and not difficult to use move that is heavily used in all levels of play, and that is commonly seen as straddling the broken threshold.

Hitboxes[edit]

ID Part Damage SD Angle BK KS FKV Radius Bone Offset SDIx T% Clang Rebound Type Effect G A Sound Direct
Hit 1
0 0 11% 0 Sakurai angle 50 93 0 5.5 Root 0.0 3.0 6.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Slash).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Slash SpecialsDirect.png
1 0 11% 0 Sakurai angle 50 93 0 5.2 Root 0.0 3.0 11.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Slash).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Slash SpecialsDirect.png
2 0 11% 0 Sakurai angle 50 93 0 4.9 Root 0.0 3.0 15.5 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Slash).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Slash SpecialsDirect.png
3 0 11% 0 Sakurai angle 50 93 0 4.6 Root 0.0 3.0 20.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Slash).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Slash SpecialsDirect.png
Hit 2
0 0 13% 0 Sakurai angle 50 90 0 5.5 Root 0.0 3.0 -6.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Slash).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Slash SpecialsDirect.png
1 0 13% 0 Sakurai angle 50 90 0 5.2 Root 0.0 3.0 -11.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Slash).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Slash SpecialsDirect.png
2 0 13% 0 Sakurai angle 50 90 0 4.9 Root 0.0 3.0 -15.5 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Slash).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Slash SpecialsDirect.png
3 0 13% 0 Sakurai angle 50 90 0 4.6 Root 0.0 3.0 -20.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Sword).png EffectIcon(Slash).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Slash SpecialsDirect.png

Timing[edit]

Charges between 0-1
Hitboxes 4-5, 9-10
Animation length 33
FrameIcon(LagChargeE).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Hitbox).png FrameIcon(Hitbox).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Hitbox).png FrameIcon(Hitbox).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png
Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
FrameIcon(Lag).png
Lag time
FrameIcon(LagChargeS).pngFrameIcon(LagChargeE).png
Charge interval
FrameIcon(Hitbox).png
Hitbox

Trivia[edit]

  • Meta Knight is supposed to vocalize down smash during the animation before the move starts charging like his forward smash and up smash, however the animation is 0 frames and as a result, the voice clip does not play. This would be fixed in Smash 4, where Meta Knight vocalizes his smash attacks when the hitboxes come out.