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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what will battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reasons why you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash.

If you would like to see what people have suggested in the past, please refer to this page's archives.

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• Only signed-on users only can suggest a battle.
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• Place new suggestions at THE BOTTOM of page. If you place them at the top, they will be lost when we archive the page. You have been warned.
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• The comments section is to be used for relevant comments.
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• ONLY fights that are related to Super Smash Bros. It can be between two characters from the series only. No characters from Mario, Legend of Zelda, or other games that haven't been in the games. Non-playable characters, like the assist trophies and Pokéball Pokémon are allowed, as long as they appear in the SSB series.
• It doesn't really matter if they are in total different SSB games. As long as they are in the SSB series, they can fight each other in the Arena.
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Suggestions

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Zelda vs Mewtwo

The two most powerful wielders of supernatural arts in smash have met. Which is stronger? Zelda's magic, or Mewtwo's psychic abilities? Gutripper^Speak

Support

1. The description may not work, but I like it. Its clever. Toon Ganondorf (t c)
2. Tipping t' balance. What's wrong with this idea? Pikabro^PIKACHU! 08:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
3. I have to support it. They're two highly unique characters. Baltro [ talk ] 23:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
4. They both have great psychic or magical powers, I'm with it. Hyper Shadow (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
5. The Horror'^{Speak if you dare} 16:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
6. They both use magic/psychic powers. Who wouldn't want to see them battle?File:Charizard.pngFile:Yoshi.jpgUser:LordzillaFile:Modea15 080317awk06.jpgFile:Pokemon trainer.jpg 18:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
7. This would be an interesting fight, considering that they both have magical powers. 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
8. Yeah, a battle of the magic wielders is a unique idea. 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
9. Nice! Mewtwo uses his dark power and Zelda calls upon the Triforce in this battle! Looks good! HavocReaper48 >:D!!! 19:58, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
10. Good Idea. They are both moderatly powerful charcters Tylersb7 (talk) 03:57, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
11. They were both unique characters and bottom tier in Melee, so this would be an interesting matchup.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reject

1. This idea sucks. Blue Ninjakoopa^Talk 07:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
2. I agree with BNK. Unknown the Hedgehog 15:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Indeed.Smoreking^(T) _(c) 14:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
4. I agree with BNK, which considering my crew, is very rare ;-) Ike's Best Buddy^{Here, my Friends}
5. Not that good of an idea. 66.186.173.61 22:19, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
6. I don't really like this idea at all. That may just be because I hate Zelda though. Solar Dragon (Talk) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
7. I agree with BNK. 98.117.158.220 05:38, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Comment

• For the reject voters, how is this worse than Captain Falcon and Sonic? Baltro [ talk ] 23:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

• Because they actually have something in common. Mewtwo and Zelda is like Mario versus Toon Link; the idea is stupid and bland, possibly a sad attempt to grab attention. Blue Ninjakoopa 00:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

PK Powerz any1?

What a cheap and nasty comment to make, and highly irrelevant. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 09:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

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So, what is going on with this then? Will it be used in some time or not? ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 14:07, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Wario vs Wolf

One is a rival to Mario and his friends, the other is a rival to the Star Fox team. Both have been bosses in games, and both have had to team up with the hero to stop someone else. Who would win the rival battle?

Support

1. My suggestion. ClonedPickle 19:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
2. @Mudkipz: FAIL. Wario is as much a rival to Mario as I love fried chicken. Blue Ninjakoopa^Talk 01:43, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
3. If Wario isn't a rival then I don't know who is. Gutripper^{Speak if you are worthy}
4. Wario is. Toon Ganondorf (t c)
5. at least he used to be a rival. Solar flute (talk) 07:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
6. Even if Wario isn't as big of a rival, it would still be a good fight. Hyper Shadow (talk) 19:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
7. Battle of the anti-heroes. I like it! 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
8. Cool, i don't think there's been a rival battle yet. 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
9. I love the idea. 66.186.173.61 22:19, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
10. I like bot characters so it will be close and good. Solar Dragon (Talk) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
11. It's also the battle of the only playable characters in the game beginning with W (i think). 220.253.239.109 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
12. Both love money. 98.117.158.220 05:40, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
13. RIVAL FIGHT!--SonicTron (talk) 22:34, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reject

1. This one just isn't good. Wario isn't much of a Rival these days...--User:Mudkipz (talk) 00:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
2. Yeah, Wario's pretty branched off in his own games from Mario now. -Masq (t/c/e) 03:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
3. Indeed.Smoreking^(T) _(c) 14:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
4. errr.... Ike's Best Buddy^{Here, my Friends}
5. this is a good idea even though wario isn't a rival anymore! Tylersb7 (talk) 04:00, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Metal Mario vs Giga Bowser

Two alternatives of regular smashers, invented by the Smash universe. The solid metal plumber vs the ultimate King of Koopas. Which is hardier in Smashing? Toon Ganondorf (t c)

Support

1. Good idea. Technically, Metal Mario first appeared in Super Mario 64 by the use of the Metal Box. Unknown the Hedgehog 00:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Two of the biggest characters invented by Smash. Metal Mario has been a boss for two games, and Giga Bowser was two games as well. Gutripper^Speak 22:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
3. In my opinion, a great idea, although since I'm a Mario series fan, it's no wonder why I'd say that. Also, Unknown is correct. Anyways, I'm picturing this battle in my mind as an even bigger final battle between Mario and Bowser in Super Mario 64. MarioGalaxy^{May Guthix be with you...} 00:16, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
4. I agree with all of the aboveFile:Charizard.pngFile:Yoshi.jpgUser:LordzillaFile:Meta ridley.jpgFile:Pokemon trainer.jpg 00:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
5. Sure, it's similar to Mario vs Bowser but considering the different strengths and weaknesses of their stronger forms the outcome could be significantly different. 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
6. They're the bosses of the Classic and Adventure modes in Melee respectively. I wonder who would have the upper hand? 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
7. Sounds like a fun match to me. 66.186.173.61 22:19, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
8. Why does anyone disagree? It's a better version of a classic battle. 98.117.158.220 05:42, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Do you remember Mario vs. Bowser? Solar flute (talk)
2. Agreed with Solar Flute.Smoreking^(T) _(c) 14:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Fail. Blue Ninjakoopa 22:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
4. It seems a bit one sided towards Giga Bowser to me.Solar Dragon (Talk) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
5. The guy above me is right. The battle would pretty much be one-sided towards Giga Bowser. SuperSmasher94 (talk) 02:12, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
6. agreed with the guy above. Giga Bowser is actually invincibal Tylersb7 (talk) 04:02, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
7. Giga Bowser is the ultimate form of Bowser while Metal Mario is just a powered up form of Mario. Metal Mario was also just a mid-boss while Giga Bowser was the final boss of Melee's Adventure and Event mode. Final Boss > Mid-Boss.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

1. Meh. I just don't know. Wierd, yet it's the ultimate form of two smashers. What to think...L33t Silvie ^{F33R T3|-| L337!!} 22:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Metal Mario was made in Super Mario 64. Facts. Get them.Smoreking^(T) _(c) 22:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Mario with a metal box was made in SM 64. The character/boss Metal Mario was invented by Smash. Facts. Get them. Gutripper^Speak

Nothing was "invented". Metal Mario CAME FROM Super Mario 64. Facts. Get them. Blue Ninjakoopa 23:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Don't you start...so you're telling me that you fought Metal Mario in Super Mario 64? Cos unless you did, you're wrong. Toon Ganondorf (t c)

Metal Mario IS Mario, which is why he isn't a major boss in Brawl. Remember, Sakurai got rid of all clones. Blue Ninjakoopa 11:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

All clones? Not exactly... Anyways, Metal Mario was not invented by Smash, even if he functioned as a boss in SSB64. Miles (talk) 12:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Miles, wrong? I never thought that could happen... hey! If you can get me non-h4x footage of Toon Link doing a kick, I'll believe you :D Blue Ninjakoopa 19:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

"Not exactly" --> includes semi-clones. Oh, and I'm never wrong. ;D Miles (talk) 22:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Then you should know damn well that Toon Link =/= Link. ::) Blue Ninjakoopa 23:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

1. Which came first, SSB 64 or Mario Golf 64? Solar flute (talk) 00:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Regarding Toon Ganondorf's last comment: You didn't fight Metal Mario in Super Mario 64, you played as Metal Mario.--Meta-Kirb (talk) 13:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh be quiet. My suggestion was the boss, not Mario with a metal box. Metal Mario the boss was introduced in the first Smash game. Regardless of whether Mario can get a Metal box, the minor boss fought in 64 is who we're dealing with. End of story. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, you never stated the boss form of Metal Mario in the description. Smoreking^(T) _(c) 23:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh it's the boss version <_<. Let me ask you this, when there was the Mario vs. Bowser fight, which Mario was it? The Mario from Super Mario 64 or the Mario from Super Mario Galaxy. You might be saying to yourself,"They're the same character." That's my point. Whether or not it's MM from SM64 or MM from SSB, it's still Metal Mario. Unknown the Hedgehog 00:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Marth vs. Meta Knight

The two "mach speed" swordsmen were interupted by the Ancient Minister. Now, the best swordsmen (according to the tiers) will unsheathe their swords and do battle. SapphireKirby777 ~Behold! -.-

Support

1. Of all the generic swordsmen battles, this one is the best IMO -- the SSE and tier reasons make it work. Miles (talk) 21:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Good idea. Unknown the Hedgehog 22:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Ye. Blue Ninjakoopa 22:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Epic. Nothing else to say. Metalink187 (talk) 12:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Gotta have my favorites dueling, I love seeing Galaxia clashing with Marth's sword. Thanks, TimeMaster Talk Main Contribs 01:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
6. I've been wanting to see them finish that sword battle from the Subspace Emissary. Hyper Shadow (talk) 19:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
7. Sure, why not? It could go either way. 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
8. Both great swordsmen. Solar Dragon (Talk) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
9. Awesome! I would love to see this. Tylersb7 (talk) 04:05, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
10. Well, they are the two fastest swordsmen, but who is truly the fastest?Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. sigh... another swordsmen fight. Solar flute (talk) 01:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Swordsman fail.Smoreking^(T) _(c) 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
3. You could pretty much pair any characters from the Subspace Emissary for a battle. This fight just doesn't seem interesting to me. 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
4. Relatively boring idea. 220.253.239.109 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Mario vs. Kirby

In the original Super Smash Bros., these two duked it out. In SSBB, a match was also done. Will a Smash Arena battle settle the rivalry? SapphireKirby777---I'm a leprechaun! -.-

Support

• Predictable, but I kinda like it anyways. Miles (talk) 20:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
• You could call it the "Match of the highest rated usage characters in the SSBM strategy guide." ClonedPickle 22:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
• Per everone above. Unknown the Hedgehog 22:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

1. These two were battling eachother in the opening of the original game. It'd be interesting to see who'd win. 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Lack of imagination. I don't like it, sorry. Gutripper^Speak 07:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Me neither, the normal once again (besides Mario v Link). Thanks, TimeMaster Talk Main Contribs 15:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
3. I lol'd at Gutripper calling something unimaginative, but yeah, unimaginative.Smoreking^(T) _(c) 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Meh. With those reasons, you could have pretty much anyone in the original 12 fight.L33t Silvie ^{F33R T3|-| L337!!} 16:24, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
5. SuperTeddy ^{call me Matthew} 17:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
6. This battle already happened in the story mode. 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
7. Already happened so NO. Solar Dragon (Talk) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
8. Already happened TWICE! no.... Tylersb7 (talk) 04:07, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
9. Same as everyone above.98.117.158.220 05:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
10. Same reasons as everyone above, it's just too plain.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

You don't have to be sorry Gutripper. SapphireKirby777---I'm a leprechaun! -.- 12:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

1. What is that supposed to mean, Smore? Gutripper^Speak 21:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Falco vs. Diddy Kong

They are both partners of very known characters, animals, and they both have a gun. SuperTeddy 10:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. This fight has already been suggested, but this is a decent comparison. Gutripper^Speak 10:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Sounds cool. Win. Thanks, TimeMaster Talk Main Contribs 15:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
3. IBB likey... Ike's Best Buddy^{Here, my Friends}
4. Peanuts vs Laser Fire. Lol. 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
5. It's a good idea. 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
6. Cool idea. Only, will the peanuts really defeat a lazer? Oh well, like it. Solar Dragon (Talk) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
7. Who cares if it's already been suggested. This fight could easily work. 220.253.239.109 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

• Suggested before, and denied. This is against the rules, and thus should fail.Smoreking^(T) _(c) 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

1. I'll have to oppose, the Falco vs. Captain Falcon idea is a much better matchup.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comment

1. Not really against the rules. Please explain. Gutripper^Speak 21:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
2. I think any failed idea should be given "second chances." Note that more people are coming to this wikia (lately). So the outcome of an idea is...well...based on luck. SapphireKirby777---I'm a leprechaun! -.- 19:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Note to Smoreking, this is not against the rules. The rules state that suggesting fights that have progressed through the Arena are against the rules. This is not against the rules, as at the time of suggestion, it failed to garner enough support to reach the SA Preparation. Gutripper^Speak 21:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Link vs. Yoshi

The green team's teamed up in the SSE, but now they fight in the Smash Arena! PurpleDarkness (talk) 01:41, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. This is pretty clever. A dinosaur v. a swordsman means primal v. sophisticated. Tongue v. Sword means Yoshi's got the guts to fight with a tongue in the first place. Friedbeef1Screech 22:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

1. In this case, this is epic fail. Yep : they're both green, yep they were fighting on the same stages but those reasons aren't enough for the BIG gap between them (dinosaur vs knight, tongue vs sword) Metalink187 (talk) 20:38, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Yeah, no. Blue Ninjakoopa 05:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
3. Phailure.L33t Silvie ^{Your epidermis is showing.} 20:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
4. Per everybody above. Unknown the Hedgehog 21:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
5. Um, i dont really think so. Gutripper^Speak 09:31, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
6. The Horror'^{Speak if you dare} 16:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
7. Don't get me started. No, really, don't. Ike's Best Buddy^{Here, my Friends}
8. The only thing they have in common is that they're green. 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
9. Sorry, but no. 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
10. Do not like is. Enough said. Solar Dragon (Talk) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
11. Uh...no. 220.253.239.109 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
12. They're green, were partners in the SSE, and that's about it.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Fried beef : It's better to make fighting characters than have a few things in common. The "sophisticated vs. primal" thing is an argument for differences, same for "tongue vs. sword" (like I said). So it may just not work. Metalink187 (talk) 08:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Charziard vs. Ridley

Two dragon like creatures. One a powerful pokemon and one a space pirate who kills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Giga Rob (talk • contribs)

Support

1. Battle of the dragons, one fighting for good and the other for evil. I like it. 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
2. Very creative idea! 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
3. Like it. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(talk)☆ 21:52, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Hum... Don't know why but don't like it. Metalink187 (talk) 17:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
2. I don't see enough things in common. Yeah their both dragonlike, but Ridley isn't really a dragon in the same sense as charizard. He can't breath fire and is metalic. 98.117.158.220 05:46, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
3. Ridley and Charizard aren't much alike, Rayquaza would be a much more suitable pokemon for this matchup and Rayquaza is a true dragon, unlike Charizard.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ridley vs. Meta Ridley

The most famous creature from the Metroid serie is fighting its resurrection form. Who will win ? Metalink187 (talk) 16:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. The Horror'^{Speak if you dare} 16:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
2. I wonder if the original Ridley or his resurrected form would win? 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

1. It's just the same character fighting against itself. 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
2. Neither of them appeared for more than about five minutes in the whole of the SSE - does anyone have enough of an opinion on either of them to actually vote? They're far too similar. The only difference I can discern is that Meta Ridley has to be defeated in 2 minutes, and is somehow even more predictable than Ridley as it only ever attacks from the left. Other than that, they're exactly the same thing. I think this would be a rather stale battle in which only about two people would vote. PenguinofDeath 08:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
3. Reason #1 Friedbeef1Screech 19:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
4. Well, a Ridley facing a stronger version of itself...Solar Dragon (Talk) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
5. Too easy to predict the outcome. 220.253.239.109 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
6. It is just too obvious.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Don't know if it has already been suggested but... here it is ! :D Metalink187 (talk) 20:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

The hell is going on ? It's been more than a week we suggested and there is no vote ? Metalink187 (talk) 21:18, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Can I just say, what happened to my epicly simple Idea? Is it going to be saved for an anniversary? --~The Blue Blur~^{New main in training!} 11:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I like the idea, but it's an obvious fight. Meta Ridley is the stronger form of Ridley, right? I'm neutral.L33t Silvie ^{I see wat u did thar...} 12:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

That's one of the reasons that made me undecided at first but, if teh people don't like, they just need to type something in "Opposes", well nothing very horrific ^^ Metalink187 (talk) 14:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Blastoise vs. Squirtle

The two evolutionary relatives now duke it out in the arena! Will the Poke Ball character come out on top, or will he suffer to the Tiny Turtle Pokemon?File:Meta Knight.jpgLordzilla 00:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Cool. I wonder which Pokemon's Hydro Pump would be more damaging in the end. 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Blastoise comes as a trophy only (unless I'm mistaken), so a hugely 1-sided fight. Ike's Best Buddy^{Here, my Friends}
2. I don't know mah Pokeymans very well, but isn't Blastoise an evolved form of Squirtle? If so,then there's no real contest.
3. Fairly unoriginal. Would work if you used other pokemon maybe. 220.253.198.197 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
4. Well, Blastoise is only a trophie while Squirtle is a member of Pokémon Trainer's team. It is an uneven match up. Solar Dragon (Talk) 13:38, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
5. You could do this for any Pokemon which evolves into another. 220.253.239.109 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
6. The games aren't based off the anime, a pokemon in its first stage is going to be destroyed by its final stage. It is just no contest.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dialga vs. Palkia

One can distort time, the other space. They both make trouble on Spear Pillar. Which one of the titans shall survive ? Metalink is watchin' ya... 19:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. They're also both some of the most annoying characters in Brawl. Time and Space are pretty evenly matched forces so this fight would be a hard one to pick the winner. 220.253.197.146 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
2. Well, I think that it is mainly the effects, not the actual Pokémon to vote for. I think that a battle between Dialga's Roar of Time and Palkia's Spacial Rend would be good. Solar Dragon (Talk) 13:47, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Too obvious... SapphireKirby777 16:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
2. Don't do fights that were in another game make them new. SmashShadic
3. No, it's too unoriginal. 220.253.239.109 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
4. I agree with the guy above. This actually happens when each new generation of Pokemon and the ones that get the cover of the new game.HavocReaper48 (talk) 23:47, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
5. Same reasons as everyone above.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

This obvious fight has started with Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Let's make it going on ! Metalink is watchin' ya... 19:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Master Hand vs. Tabuu

The battle of the bosses. Will the dominating hand or the magical figure win? Alxeedo Blah blah blah... (Contribs|Editcount)

Support

1. Orange Yoda 14:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
2. Master Hand was already weakened in the SSE so this would be a fairer fight in the Smash Arena. 220.253.234.33 03:05, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
3. It would be epic for sure. 220.253.239.109 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
4. Yes! Master hand's revenge! It's not just epic, it's um... very epic? 98.117.158.220 18:34, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Tabuu owned the Master Hand in Brawl. We have seen this fight before. Solar Dragon (Talk) 11:27, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
2. master hand already fouht master hand and won. To obvios who would win
3. Tabuu is just vastly superior to Master Hand, much greater power, much more health, and harder to dodge attacks. However, Masterhand is less predictable.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
4. I agree. Tabuu has the abilities to control Master Hand.--SonicTron (talk) 01:51, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

• Who weakened him though? Tabuu of course so I still don't like it. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(talk)☆ 15:55, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

  Well, Master hand was so filled with rage that he didn't think- he just charged. Remember, he has the power to create entire universes. He's not a kid. He was only one in the original SSB. 98.117.158.220 05:32, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

• Well, Tabuu has the powers to defeat the smashers in 1 hit while Master Hand can't do that. Also, that charge should have been crazy strong but Tabuu blocked that like nothing.--SonicTron (talk) 03:59, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

• Will the second vote for oppose count even though it's unsigned?highway pumpy 23:49, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Falco vs. Captain Falcon

Falco, who is enraged by the intrusion of an outsider into the Space Animals' domain, challenges the now-defending, yet ever-arrogant Captain Falcon. These two egotistic pilots now duke it out in the Arena! Their differences set apart these fighters! One is a bird, the other flies a "bird"; the former prefers to slice and blast in the air, while the latter prefers to sprint quickly along the ground and barrage with lightning-fast speed. And they both have taunts that have become Internet memes! (Hands off my bread! and Show me your moves!, anyone?) So, which flyer do you like? RAN1domchupunch!!! 02:47, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Cool description. I like it. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(talk)☆ 06:22, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
2. Battle of the birds that can't even fly! >:D Seems kinda good. I'll show you my support!HavocReaper48 >:D!!! ¬_¬ 01:50, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
3. Yeah. Awesome idea! 220.253.196.132 06:00, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
4. For a long time, I got them confused. 98.117.158.220 05:12, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
5. I am rather surprised this matchup nevered happened, this is certainly one of the best matchups possible, even if it is somewhat obvious. This is also by far the best intro for any of the suggestions.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Link vs. Toon Link

The two Brawl incarnations of Link come to fight in the Smash Arena! Both have very similar movesets, a cloned Final Smash, and have had different roles in the Legend of Zelda series. Who will win, the Hero of Hyrule or the Hero of Winds? SuperSmasher94 (talk) 02:29, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Similar to the Toon Link vs Young Link one but still good. 220.253.196.132 06:00, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
2. Two characters based on each other so yes. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(talk)☆ 06:17, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
3. Interesting...Young Link's replacement versus Young Link's older self. O_o. HavocReaper48 >:D!!! 18:40, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
4. My main is Toon Link,so let me brawl and Link will lose!08:58,December 23,2009

Oppose

1. Predictable. 98.117.158.220 18:33, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
2. A battle of semi-clones? This is too obvious.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon Stadium 1 vs. Pokémon Stadium 2

The two Pokémon stadiums. Each has different effects. Which will win? The one from Melee or the one from Brawl? ☆The Solar Dragon ^(talk)☆ 15:49, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Sounds good, nice to see more of Melee vs. Brawl style battles here. >:) HavocReaper48 19:57, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
2. The Pokemon Stadiums are far from being "the same". They transform into different stages and even their basic stages has differences (one has misleading edges). Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Same thing. 98.117.158.220 00:33, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comments

• 98.117.158.220, did you maybe put that in the wrong section by saying 'same thing', isn't that agreeing with him. ☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Merry Christmas)}☆ 21:30, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant that the two choices were pretty much the exact same thing. In the future I'll try to be clearer. 98.117.158.220 05:37, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Rayquaza vs. Meta Ridley

Two flying metal bosses in the SSE but which is the best? The Pokémon or the Ridley? ☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Happy New Year)}☆ 21:43, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Interesting. Two Dragons, one a slitherer and another a flier. Both being SSE bosses- Perfect. 98.117.158.220 05:30, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
2. Rayquaza is epic, I'm surprised he hasn't been in an arena-battle. Looks pretty good to me. HavocReaper48 00:59, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
3. You always come up the greatest fights. Smash Shadic 21:44, March 6, 2010(UTC)

Oppose

1. Rayquaza isn't metal, so this matchup doesn't have much going for it. I would vote for it if it was Ridley instead of Meta Ridley, a vastly superior matchup.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

• You got the introduction wrong, Rayquaza isn't metal.Omega Tyrant (talk) 10:02, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
  • Well, he looks metal. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 21:02, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
    • His defense is pretty good.--SonicTron (talk) 22:30, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Link vs. Samus

A young skilled swordsman with a sword, shield, and a large amount of weapons against a young woman with a technological exoskeleton at her disposal--Power courage wisdom and time (talk) 21:17, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Well, the battle description needs a major rewrite, but I think this will turn out to be quite an interesting battle…the new vs. the old, among other things. RAN1 03:38, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
2. Their specials are very similar, they're one of the originals, let's give this a chance. HavocReaper48 00:30, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
3. The two biggest projectile users in the series plus they are more than cabaple of fighting up close (at least they could in Melee). Very good matchup.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Have nothing in common. 98.117.158.220 03:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
2. Doesn't appeal to me. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 07:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

• I would like to counter the first opposition,

1.They are both projectile smashers.

2. Both have appeared in all three SSB games.

3. Both have varations, Link and Toon Link, Samus and Zero Suit Samus

Also I'm also open to any new battle description--Power courage wisdom and time (talk) 04:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

You would have better time saying that Link and mario would be a better battle. "They are both projectile smashers", "Both have appeared in all three SSB games", and they both also have variations, Toon Link and Dr. Mario. Toon Link cannot be compared to Zamus. At all. The only three things I see in common are

1. The both have recoveries that involve spinning
2. They both have tethers as grabs

That's all. They're games are different, Metroid being an FPS while LoZ being an RPG. Different personalities, Samus being a bounty hunter while Link being... an explorer? Only suggest something if it's very similar or "parallel"- like Master Hand and Crazy hand. 98.117.158.220 05:28, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Link versus Samus is much more original than Link versus Mario and both their first games were non-linear, also the point is that they are near polar opposites, One is more medieval era and one is futuristic, not to mention they are of about the same age and of different genders. (That is not meant to be takin as a sexist comment.) They were both created to attract a wider fanbase, Link as an RPG and Samus as an First Person shooter. You yourself, have even mentioned two more similiarties. They also both have their own loyal fanbase. Anything else?--Power courage wisdom and time (talk) 01:08, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

For the sake of accuracy, the Metroid series is not an FPS. That's the Prime series. I doubt anyone would call Metroid Fusion an FPS. RAN1 01:21, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Pikmin is futuristic and has a loyal fanbase, but does that mean that Zelda and Pikmin are similar? of course not. Metroid was originaly a sidescroller, Legend of Zelda was not. And them being different genders means nothing. And they are not the same age. Link is a teenages/ young boy and Samus is an adult. Link refers to many people. Samus refers to one. LoZ is not Midevil; they have trains. And their attacks are not similar at the least. 98.117.158.220 02:14, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

For the sake of my sanity let us refer to Link as the one who appears in Twilight Princess, Since that is the Link the SSBB on is based off of. Pikmin is more cormmical, Zelda and Metroid series have more serious themes to them. Metroid was created from the non-linearity of The Legend of Zelda series and the side-scrolling of Mario. Link is of about the age of 18, no more. Samus is about the age of her younger twenties (???). Pretty close age group. In Twilight Princess, it is obviously medieval there are no trains. Once more with the attacks, projectile smashers, spinning recovery, they grab with an item allowing farther range, and they're arrow/charge shot can be powered up depending on how long you hold the button. Anymore comments? :P--Power courage wisdom and time (talk) 23:02, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Look. This has gone far enough. It is his personal opinion that they have nothing in common. Others may feel that but there will be some who agree with you. It is the same on lots of battles here. There is no need for an argument about it. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 07:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Pikachu vs Jigglypuff

Battle of the original Pokémon in the Super Smash Bros. series. Pikachu, the electric mouse vs. Jigglypuff, the pink ball. Both were in from the start, rivaling each other as the best Pokémon. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 14:17, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. They're smash veterans and they're of the original 150, why not? HavocReaper'48 19:25, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Just because they were the two playable pokemon in the original doesn't mean this will be a good matchup, especially since Jigglypuff shouldn't have been in Smash Bros. in the first place (Mewtwo should have been in both the first SSB and in Brawl instead of Jigglypuff). Also, Pikachu and Jigglypuff are far, far , FAR from being even close to being the best pokemon.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

• For the person who removed this, why? It has not been done before. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 18:05, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

SmashWiki vs. SmashArena

...You knew it was coming. Does SmashWiki finally get rid of the Battle Arena once and for all...? Unsigned comment made by Clarinet Hawk (talk)

Oppose

1. Oh, come on. Nothing to do with the Smash Universe. And, Smash Arena is a part of SmashWiki. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 06:26, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
2. I just joined a month ago, I'll like to vote for more Smash Arena battles then just Bowser vs. Yoshi. Omega Tyrant 12:46, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

• This is a joke, right? --HavocReaper'48 19:42, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes, is. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 20:09, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Shadow vs Grey Fox

Sonic and Snake have fought and Sonic won. This time, their rivals are gonna fight. Who will be the winner? The rival of Sonic, who has Chaos powers, or the rival of Snake, who is a master at hand to hand combat? --SonicTron (talk) 22:23, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. This is a good matchup, a battle between the third party assist trophies. Omega Tyrant 23:15, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
2. See above. --HavocReaper'48 01:48, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
3. Would be a good fight. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 11:51, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
4. rival fight--99.75.103.212 00:00, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Latios and Latias vs. Kat and Ana

Two teams of two. Latios and Latias - The Pokemon from Pokeballs vs. Kat and Ana - The ninjas from an Assist Trophy. Both have very similar effects but which is best? ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 11:54, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. I'll support this fight, even though the winner is rather obvious. They are similar so this a pretty good matchup. Omega Tyrant 14:15, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
2. Many times, I couldn't tell which one it was. 98.111.95.78 16:16, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
3. I like the idea. --HavocReaper'48 16:55, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
4. This could settle the pokemon vs assist trophies thing.--SonicTron (talk) 04:01, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
5. They do practically the same thing so its evnly matched. SmashShadic 15:38, April 26 2010 (UTC)

Falcon Punch vs. Warlock Punch

You all knew this was coming. Captain Falcon pulled a manly and quick win in Round 47, but now, whose epic punch will win? We've all seen them parodied, meme-fied, and given epic combos/moments throughout the Smash community and YouTube, but now it's ultimately up to the SA to decide which is better. --HavocReaper'48 02:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Surely these punches would have to square off sooner or later. Plus, there haven't been an attack matchup yet in the Smash Arena. A somewhat obvious, but great matchup. Omega Tyrant 03:05, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
2. Good matchup, but I don't know how it would appear in the arena. 98.111.95.78 03:42, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
3. Although I think it is too similar, I will borderline Support it. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 08:51, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. ....

Green Hill Zone vs 75m

Sonic and Mario have been good rivals since they debut and even fought before in the Smash Arena, with Mario being the winner. This time, the game stages they debuted in are going to fight. Which stage will win, Green Hill Zone, which started the Sonic Franchise and has the deadly signpost, or 75M, (which tecnically isn't the debut stage but is one of the levels from the game) which started the Mario Franchise and has Donkey Kong?--SonicTron (talk) 14:01, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. The battle of the two retro stages! Good idea. --HavocReaper'48 15:52, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
2. Will be good. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 16:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
3. mario and sonic stages--99.75.103.212 00:00, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Comment

Also, Megatron1:SW:SIGN, please take note of it, your sig is violating policy. --HavocReaper'48 15:52, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lugia (SSBM) vs. Kyogre (SSBB)

Lugia was arguably the best pokemon in Melee, being capable of OHKOing anything with its aeroblast. Even simply touching it could KO at shockingly low percentages. Kyogre is arguably the best pokemon in Brawl, being much more than just a bigger water gun. It relentlessly follows and hydro pumps the opponent away until they are dead. If Kyogre locks on to you, even if you're Meta Knight, you're basically dead unless you are playing in a ridiculously large stage. Both pokemon have the ability to KO anyone at 0% and they are even capable of KOing the same opponent twice. But who will go down in Smash Bros. history as the greatest pokeball pokemon of all time? Omega Tyrant 15:46, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Both are legendary mascots of their games, respectively, and both have aquatic abilities that include swimming and Hydro Pump. I like this idea. Oh, and Lugia (SSBB)*. BNK ^[E|T|C] 22:12, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
2. Pokémon Soulsilver and Sapphire are awesome, and so is this suggestion. --HavocReaper'48 22:55, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I don't see too many similarities apart from the fact they both own every one. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 20:36, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
2. Sorry, but Kyogre (the whale one, right?) never seemed to damage me much. It's pretty easy to dodge, at least for me. I've never played melee, but I'm guessing Lugia is much more powerful there. 98.111.95.78 00:02, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Comment

• It is specifically Lugia from Melee since Lugia was nerfed in every aspect in Brawl and this is supposed to be a battle between the best pokeball pokemon of their respective games. Omega Tyrant 22:51, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  • But that throws everything off balance. :( BNK ^[E|T|C] 22:55, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
    • And how is that? We could use more Melee vs. Brawl matchups. Omega Tyrant 23:22, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
      • Lugia is in Brawl! BNK ^[E|T|C] 23:49, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
        • I know that, but this is a Melee vs. Brawl matchup. In my opinion, Lugia was the best pokemon in Melee and Kyogre is the best pokemon in Brawl. Therefore, this is a matchup to see who was the best pokeball pokemon in the SSB series. Omega Tyrant 00:02, April 27, 2010 (UTC)