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Pardon me, but this is IronMaidMaryan, now on a backup account. I only just got back from a vacation and noticed some gruesome details on my main account-notably the whole argument over the Dr. Mario article and the fact someone hijacked it (seriously, the email was even changed, I can NOT recover it). So what I'm trying to say is, that wasn't me on the other end, especially with what sounded like a suicide note. Sorry for any inconveniences and I promise you, I'm not as stubborn as this individual made me look. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 07:22, 18 August 2015 (EDT)

That's unfortunate, but we hope you'll continue to contribute to this wiki. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 08:09, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
You should bring this up with Toomai at least (if you haven't already), since the hijacker could cause problems for the wiki if not dealt with. JamesJH-Heartless.pngHeart 16:52, 18 August 2015 (EDT)

Ok, I asked Miles to semi-protect this page. Hopefully it goes through. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 07:14, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Well, now you can tell him to lift the protection if he can. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 16:15, 14 November 2015 (EST)

Regional Grammar Differences[edit]

We have multiple users who use the British/Canadian English spelling of words, most notably this guy. Long story short, it doesn't matter if it's spelt "humor" or "humour". Aidanzapunksignature.pngAidan, Master of Speed and AuraAidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG 17:18, 31 August 2015 (EDT)

No problem, I actually forgot about the whole regional differentiation for a while until now. But did you really have to put this on my talk page? You could've just undone it in the page's edit section and specified it there instead. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 18:17, 31 August 2015 (EDT)

Your other account[edit]

I feel very bad for you how someone inexplicably hacked into your account while you were enjoying your vacation; I honestly did not expect that. Fortunately, that person was blocked. All I'm hoping is for you to continue behaving and making good contributions while you're around here (also, you do not need to be sorry, it's obviously the hacker who is to blame). - Drilly Dilly (talk) 18:55, 2 September 2015 (EDT)

Thanks, much appreciated. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 20:20, 2 September 2015 (EDT)

What you did to my discussion...[edit]

you do know that you're not allowed to delete talk page content (excluding obvious vandal jank) because we need that for archival purposes, right? Also I wasn't starting an argument, I said that argument we had was pointless. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 17:09, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

... Okay, so you came here to bring an argument that was long since dead and didn't even get that heated anyway, yet there was still no reason for you to bring that up on my talk page. But then, you come back and restate the same stuff you said before, only now it's for an argument of an argument. That's called beating on a dead horse-I suggest you don't do that. Not to mention, when it comes to spam on people's talk pages, there can exist enough incentive to legally withdraw information from a talk page (which is what you did then, and are doing now). I hope there comes a feature to block people from talk pages, because I've grown quite tiresome of you by this point. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 10:22, 15 October 2015 (EDT)
Apologies. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 18:46, 15 October 2015 (EDT)

Not gonna lie, I'm losing motivation to stay here.[edit]

I feel like no matter what I contribute (or at least try to in the first place) to this wiki, it either gets cleared out or blindsided by user accounts. I thought I could start over with a fresh slate after my old account got taken over, but it seems like that's not something I can achieve here. I'm considering taking a permanent leave if people hate my ideas that much. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 16:11, 29 October 2015 (EDT)

You really shouldn't leave just because of a few jerks. If Smash Bros. is something you like and you want to help people learn more, it shouldn't matter how other people treat you because of it. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 16:11, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
A lot of those "jerks" happen to be a handful of admins and higher-up positions. Heck, Aidanzapunk even flat-out told me the terms I use in my contributions are "hideous-sounding" and that nobody else uses them. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 16:17, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
With that said, I've been briefed on a few things, so I understand the circumstances more now. I guess this can be a little learning experience to benefit from. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 17:08, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
Despite that though, I still apologize in Aidan's place for his behavior. Him and I are friends, so I'll try to make sure this doesn't happen again. Disaster Flare (talk) 17:16, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
Seems like the hacker's been making more accounts and sending personal attacks to you. - Drilly the Hedgehog 02:19, 8 November 2015 (EST)
Yeah, which does raise a question I think we all should know. Do you have anybody that considers you an enemy? I need to know why they'd be targeting you this maliciously. Disaster Flare (talk) 02:21, 8 November 2015 (EST)
Around here? - Drilly the Hedgehog 02:24, 8 November 2015 (EST)
Either around here or irl, because someone clearly wouldn't go this far to attack someone unless they had some kind of beef with them. Disaster Flare (talk) 02:30, 8 November 2015 (EST)
As a matter of fact, no, I don't. This hacker only cursed at me after I reverted one of his edits. Mostly, he flamed at 15DollarsWentSouth, the user whose account was hacked by him. - Drilly the Hedgehog 02:34, 8 November 2015 (EST)

(reset indent) Believe he was talking to 15DWS. Serpent SKSig.png King 02:36, 8 November 2015 (EST)

What we have here is a particularly ambitious user-page vandal with a dynamic IP address (making it somewhat difficult to permanently block them). An IP range block may be issued if we can find some relation with their locations/IP addresses. There is no reason to leave the wiki over some asshole's attempts to take a stab at you, especially if it's an issue that can be fixed. That only allows them to win. Serpent SKSig.png King 02:36, 8 November 2015 (EST)

Whoa. Holy jeez. I didn't see this coming at all. Needless to say, thank you for picking up on this situation quickly, guys. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 06:03, 8 November 2015 (EST)
You're quite welcome. Serpent SKSig.png King 06:05, 8 November 2015 (EST)

I want you to know that I am watching this situation very carefully. If it happens again, I will do everything in my power to halt this. It's not fair that you alone are getting harassed. Serpent SKSig.png King 18:09, 8 November 2015 (EST)

I agree. Dunno why the hacker is going through this much trouble to harass 15DollarsWentSouth. - Drilly the Hedgehog 22:55, 8 November 2015 (EST)

I'm really sorry about the recent events.[edit]

  1. I apologize for my harrassment if you, the main intent was to give my apologies for your account being hacked.
  2. I'm very sorry about the recent edit wars you had.
  3. I feel pity for your pages being vandalized. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 07:18, 9 November 2015 (EST)
I appreciate the thought. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 08:24, 9 November 2015 (EST)
What harassment and edit wars? - Drilly the Hedgehog 02:16, 11 November 2015 (EST)
So 1) Earlier I posted to him an apology for the IronMaidMaryan hacker. I also added at the end that our argument about Sonic's up smash. He took offense to the last thing and called it spam (see the above section). Also the edit wars with Aidanzapunk. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 07:15, 11 November 2015 (EST)
Captain John "Soap" MacTavish. - Drilly the Hedgehog 13:25, 11 November 2015 (EST)
Drilly, I hate to do this, but SW:TALK. Thank you. Disaster Flare (talk) 13:26, 11 November 2015 (EST)

To answer a question I got before...[edit]

No, I don't know of anyone who would go to such lengths to attack me personally. But why it's happening now is beyond me. Regardless, thanks to all who are sticking up for me and giving me reason to stay. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 15:32, 11 November 2015 (EST)

Just to let you know, we are here for you. Let us know if you wanna talk to us. Don't let the fake IMM's bother you. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 15:52, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Nintendo Direct comes today![edit]

Who's hyped for the news (Smash Ballot results, anyone?) today? 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 08:29, 12 November 2015 (EST)

I would be if it weren't for the fact that it's at 10 PM GMT, and that I'm busy at that time. (And, I'll be honest, I'm more hyped for a Fates release date). ScoreCounter 08:34, 12 November 2015 (EST)
FINAL FANTASY CLOUD BOYZ. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 18:04, 12 November 2015 (EST)

... oh dear[edit]

Until Miles takes a chill pill and realizes he's being unnecessarily stingy and hypocritical regarding his own policies (most notably SW:TALK), I'm not coming back. Joining this wiki really was a mistake on my part in the grand of scheme of things. Good bye. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 15:38, 14 November 2015 (EST)

If Miles was snippy in any way (which when I look back, he wasn't), then it was to help you understand why he did what he did. As far as I know, NONE of us want you to leave. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 16:19, 14 November 2015 (EST)
You mean this? I see what you mean. But really, don't leave just because of that and the recent vandalism, unless of course you really can't deal with the pressure. It's your choice, anyway... Although Ganonmew's point is indeed true. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 16:28, 14 November 2015 (EST)
That is unfortunate to hear, but, to be frank, I see where you're coming from. I'm personally taking a hiatus for a bit as well, but, in a few weeks or so, you should come back. Hopefully things might have calmed down by then. ScoreCounter 17:07, 14 November 2015 (EST)

Alright, I've decided to not abandon my post so suddenly (especially after finding out how strongly OmegaTyrant opposes Miles). In truth, I don't want to leave this wiki, but I do fear the power can get to Miles' head, and he'll abuse it in many ways (one of them being giving my account the boot). 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 18:32, 14 November 2015 (EST)

Feedback time[edit]

So I think I've known you well enough to give you some sort of feedback. Positive: You are highly intelligent in terms of Smash facts, and you have shown a great deal of perseverance when you got hacked and still do now when you are personally attacked. Negative: You can be a little sensitive and occasionally take things too seriously. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 08:22, 25 November 2015 (EST)

I am not entirely sure about this. I want to say "only give feedback to users who want it (i.e. those who have a feedback page)" but meh... Idk. Serpent SKSig.png King 08:33, 25 November 2015 (EST)
That could've been said when I first did it. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 08:45, 25 November 2015 (EST)
I feel like only if I want to become a moderator or something (which I don't), that's when I'd be open to having feedback. Because as everything is in the given situation, any points made are largely moot. 15DollarsWentSouth 13:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)

So, the special Smash Bros. presentation is coming this month...[edit]

Who's hyped? I know I am. My hope is that we get some characters for the holidays. That'd be one fine Christmas present for me. 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 13:37, 5 December 2015 (EST)

Source? Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 13:43, 5 December 2015 (EST)
...never mind. I thought I read somewhere that December 11th was the confirmed date of the broadcast... 15DollarsWentSouth (talk) 13:47, 5 December 2015 (EST)

Oh wait, I just found something that might give us an idea when to expect it! Click here! 15DollarsWentSouth 13:35, 6 December 2015 (EST)

Your signature[edit]

Is supposed to contain your username, or at least something that can easily describe your username so users can tell it's your comment. Your signature does not fulfill, please change it. Serpent SKSig.png King 13:19, 6 December 2015 (EST)

...I thought "LostMoney" was obvious enough... 15DollarsWentSouth 13:26, 6 December 2015 (EST)
Now your signature is violating because it does not have a link to your userspace. Please change it. INoMedssig.png INoMed (Talk • Contribs) 13:27, 6 December 2015 (EST)
Fucking hell, I guess I just won't do a custom signature. Jeez.15DollarsWentSouth 13:39, 6 December 2015 (EST)
You don't need to act like this all because of a minor violation. Just look at me. I'm probated, and I'm don't even have a fuss about it! INoMedssig.png INoMed (Talk • Contribs) 13:41, 6 December 2015 (EST)
Well, I'd rather not have this stuff on my talk page in the first place, but since it somehow violates a touchy policy in the process, I have no room to stand, apparently...15DollarsWentSouth 13:44, 6 December 2015 (EST)
Look, don't blame me. I am just upholding a policy. I'm an admin, it's kind of my job. Serpent SKSig.png King 13:45, 6 December 2015 (EST)
Ugh... pardon me. I've been going through some difficult life endeavors at the moment. I know that doesn't excuse anything, but I just want to assure I don't actually feel to act so brazenly... 15DollarsWentSouth 13:49, 6 December 2015 (EST)
It's fine, thank you Serpent SKSig.png King 13:50, 6 December 2015 (EST)

I'm sorry.[edit]

I guess I just wasn't ready for responsibility like this. Maybe I'll come back when I feel I'm ready to contribute actually important, because as of now, it's pretty clear to me I'm not cut out for any user duties.

I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time... I'm sorry... 15DollarsWentSouth 15:29, 6 December 2015 (EST)

It's ok... INoMedssig.png INoMed (Talk • Contribs) 15:31, 6 December 2015 (EST)
I've posted something on my userpage that I think people need to look into for a moment. 15DollarsWentSouth 15:45, 6 December 2015 (EST)
Just checked... You apparently have bipolarity and OCD. I suffer from (Private info) ADHD, ASD, Shortsightedness, Colourblindness, and an Extremely rare genetic disorder. INoMedssig.png INoMed (Talk • Contribs) 15:52, 6 December 2015 (EST)

How to add captions to images.[edit]

Let's just say I wanted a Captain Falcon picture, with the caption being,"FALCON PUNCH!!!!!" This is the coding:

[[File:CaptainFalconIcon(SSB4-U).png|40px|FALCON PUNCH!!!!!]]

And the result:

FALCON PUNCH!!!!! 16:50, 3 January 2016 (EST)

... I never asked for this. 15DollarsWentSouth 17:29, 3 January 2016 (EST)
Read the last revision of your user page. Plus, no need to be blunt. 18:02, 3 January 2016 (EST)
I actually forgot about having posted that. Whoops. I guess I just lost interest in trying to figure that out initially, and it turns out the icons I set on my userpage can't have captions added to them. 15DollarsWentSouth 19:05, 3 January 2016 (EST)


You have Cloud, I'm jealous XD, I don't even have Lucas! (But I have everyone else currently out).

Anyways, just dropping a freindly hi. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 20:06, 3 January 2016 (EST)

Honestly, I feel guilty that I have Cloud-he's broken as pre-1.0.6 Diddy. 15DollarsWentSouth 00:47, 4 January 2016 (EST)


It's a little hard to see over the white background of Smashwiki. You may want to change it. 11:50, 16 January 2016 (EST)

How's this? Any better? 15DollarsWentSouth 14:11, 16 January 2016 (EST)
Much, thanks! 18:19, 16 January 2016 (EST)

Online Smash 4 Servers-Maintenance, Jan. 21, 2016[edit]

I wonder if this means anything? 15DollarsWentSouth 20:10, 21 January 2016 (EST)

All it did was change the official tournament types; now there's even LESS custom battle tournaments. ¦{ Unowninator (talk) 21:54, 21 January 2016 (EST)
Whaaaaat? Not even custom moves, no stats? 15DollarsWentSouth 00:19, 22 January 2016 (EST)

Well they're still in the roulette, but now there's only one 1v1 Custom Glory every 30 minutes, I think. I'd love to be proven wrong. Unowninator (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2016 (EST)

Melee tier list?[edit]

where did the newest one come from, you said it isnt from the melee back room. thanks DJLO (talk) 17:33, 29 January 2016 (EST)

It was fan voted (or top smashers voted,not sure which) I think, but Smashborards accepted it, so we accept it. See this page for the details. Penro, the PenroDarkPitHead.pngand PenroZSSHead.png main. 17:36, 29 January 2016 (EST)

I hate to do this but...[edit]

Policy.png Reminder: There is a policy in place that prohibits multiple reversions of the same edit. Please refrain from reverting an edit that has already been undone. Instead, bring the subject up on the article's associated talk page.

Reminder of the 1RV policy. Disaster Flare DisasterFlareValentineSig.png (talk) 23:08, 15 February 2016 (EST)

I only reverted once though. There wasn't more than one revert. What's going on here? 15DollarsWentSouth 23:09, 15 February 2016 (EST)
The rule is you can't revert a revert. Draco reverted your edit, then you reverted his. Disaster Flare DisasterFlareValentineSig.png (talk) 23:11, 15 February 2016 (EST)
So wait, even when you supply concrete evidence for it in a non-confronting manner (like some people have, and nothing came up on those fronts in regards to supposed policy breaks), that somehow violates the 1:RV policy? ...That seems kind of backwards. Especially since, like I mentioned, many people have done this and weren't reprimanded. 15DollarsWentSouth 23:14, 15 February 2016 (EST)
Yeah I don't understand it either, but that's just how it is. My guess is since it's not a full-scale edit war most of the time, action really isn't taken, which I honestly believe should change, considering that there are some who are worse at breaking rules than either of us yet don't get any punishment. Disaster Flare DisasterFlareValentineSig.png (talk) 23:17, 15 February 2016 (EST)

About CPU Bayonetta[edit]

I just played a handful of matches today against level 9 Bayonetta in my copy of Smash 3DS, and she always recovers with After Burner Kick, even when I run to the opposite side of the stage after launching her, so it's not just in an attempt to attack. The thing about her not using Witch Twist twice is true, though. However, when reverting the edit, you seem to have missed the point that such a specific example of flawed AI should go in this page, intended to keep track of AI flaws in detail, rather than a page talking about AI in general. Furthermore, you put it in a paragraph talking about the AI generally having improved in comparison to previous Smash games; Bayonetta not recovering properly doesn't really contrast that statement, as not only the specific List of AI flaws in SSB4 shows other CPUs who also recover poorly, but she still recovers better than, say, CPU Luigi in Melee, who never uses Super Jump Punch, or CPU Lucas in Brawl, who never uses his z-air.

With all this said, my purpose when undoing your edit was simply to move the information from the general AI flaws page to the SSB4-specific one, and correct the statement about Bayonetta not using ABK because, as I said previously, she always used the move when I launched her offstage. 034.png DracoRex the Dino King (RAWR!) 22:28, 16 February 2016 (EST)

...whoops. I forgot that the AI varies between offline and online matches. Online AI is far worse in comparison, since Bayonetta actually exhibits that behavior all the time (while characters like Luigi still make usage of the multiple recovery methods to an extent). I guess I never bothered to try that out, that's my fault. 15DollarsWentSouth 18:12, 17 February 2016 (EST)

Those random move images[edit]

What are they for? We already have images for specials and taunts so...yeah. Serpent SKSig.png King 20:59, 18 March 2016 (EDT)

Someone asked for depictions of the meteor smashes in action for the list of them in SSB4, much like those of the previous SSB games. Unless they've been included already, I'm merely fulfilling that task. 15DollarsWentSouth 21:01, 18 March 2016 (EDT)
Ah ok. Serpent SKSig.png King 21:06, 18 March 2016 (EDT)
Yeah, I should've named the files about meteor smashes from the very start, but at least the confusion is addressed. 15DollarsWentSouth 21:09, 18 March 2016 (EDT)

Where did this idea of characters sharing rows in tables start?[edit]

Was it discussed anywhere, or did someone just do it? I ask because it's objectively inferior and defeats the purpose of having a sortable table in the first place (e.g. sort by alphabetical will never work), and I'm going around to repair the damage right now. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Metroid 19:30, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

Thank you. Unowninator (talk) 19:34, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

As far as I know, someone just went ahead and did it-I don't remember the name (it might have been an anonymous IP address), but they just gave a small explanation which was simply "condensed for page space". I'm guessing that means to keep it at or below the recommended 30 KB size limit per page, but now that I think about it, I don't think any of those pages even come close to that amount. 15DollarsWentSouth 19:38, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

Perhaps they were annoyed at how tall the tables were on the page, which probably is a valid concern, but far less important than keeping proper sorting. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Xanthic 19:43, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

Multiple revisions[edit]

Yeah, my proofreading has been lacking a little as of late, hence the multiple revisions. I'm gonna get back on track with it in order to make sure the edit histories don't look so cluttered. 16:44, 4 May 2016 (EDT)

That's questionable but is there any problems like in other pages?[edit]

"Luigi540, look at the other entries for meteor smashes. The main thing is to explain what moves can meteor smash, and when and where they meteor smash. That's all what is needed. Details on usage are for the character pages."

If you haven't noticed from the list of meteor smash in SSB, SSBM, SSBB page, those are provided with brief usage details and I think that is simply beyond the explanation what moves can meteor smash and where they meteor smash. Some provided brief details about it. Luigi540 (talk) 05:02, 15 June 2016 (EDT)

Well then, those need to be condensed as far as I'm concerned. 15DollarsWentSouth 11:39, 15 June 2016 (EDT)
I think it's better to have brief details on meteor smash usage (something like how risky or practical it is to use on), while we can leave indeph usage details on character's page. Luigi540 (talk) 14:44, 15 June 2016 (EDT)

About this[edit]

SW:1RV says: “Do not revert another user’s revert because it is in violation of this policy. This will only escalate the problem.” Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 17:02, 19 November 2018 (EST)

He violated the policy, not me. 15DollarsWentSouth 21:54, 19 November 2018 (EST)
You did as well by reverting him again. That’s what I’m saying. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 21:55, 19 November 2018 (EST)
That was in response to the problem, and not to mention I had a supporting statement for my case. Anything objectively false/glanced over should be dealt with promptly, shouldn't it? 15DollarsWentSouth 22:05, 19 November 2018 (EST)
Yes, and for that, doing what you did is... PROBABLY okay. Just keep in mind that you shouldn’t revert just because 1RV is being broken. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 22:52, 19 November 2018 (EST)

Also, by not responding, the other person doesn't really learn anything. ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 23:23, 19 November 2018 (EST)


Just wanted to let you know your talk page is 37 KB large, and pages are typically archived when they reach 32 KB. So yeah, you may want to archive. See here for how to do it. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan Leave a message if needed 22:32, 19 November 2018 (EST)

...I just figured it out. I gotta stop overcomplicating things lol. 15DollarsWentSouth 23:12, 19 November 2018 (EST)

Might be calling it quits here.[edit]

I can't even archive stuff properly. Good lord. 15DollarsWentSouth 23:52, 19 November 2018 (EST)