Talk:Mine / Craft / Create Block

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Mining Material Order[edit]

I previously listed the material order, but saw that I haven't included a bunch of them. So instead, here is a link to a much more organized list, compiled by Meshima: Thecontributor22 (talk) 11:48, October 19, 2020 (EDT)

is this going to be included? This would be very helpful 20:29, October 26, 2020 (EDT)


Would it be appropriate to make a table of which material Mine considers each Terrain to be? --Jumbods64 (talk) 13:46, October 14, 2020 (EDT)

Do you mean specific parts of a stage, too (like for stages with multiple transitions, like Pokemon Stadium)? Thecontributor22 (talk) 16:01, October 14, 2020 (EDT)
Specific parts. For example, Mementos is mostly stone, including the platforms. The red and black barriers that appear to block the blast zones off temporarily mostly yield dirt. Another good question is whether or not this info is placed on this page or on each stage page. Blackbrass (talk) 01:44, October 17, 2020 (EDT)
I don't know if somebody already did the same, but I actually went to the different stages and tested it. I'm currently converting it into a table format so it will be easier to view. I will show it in the discussion tab when I am finished.Thecontributor22 (talk) 12:24, October 17, 2020 (EDT)
Here it is.
Smashville: Wood (entire stage)
Stage/Element Terrain Class Part of Stage Notes
By Stage
3D Land Dirt earth, yellow soft platforms, Donut Blocks, Flip Panels, red column, valley platforms, giant blocks, railed soft platforms
Stone Bricks, ? Blocks
Iron grated floors, Warp Pipes
75m Iron entire stage
All Battlefield/Ω version stages Neutral entire stage
Arena Ferox Wood wood platforms
Stone main platform, stone platforms
Balloon Fight Dirt all platforms
Stone breakable rocks * Sometimes the stage can load without the breakable rocks
Battlefield Neutral entire stage
Big Battlefield
Big Blue Iron entire stage
Boxing Ring Dirt ropes
Wood ring * Both the inside and the outside of the ring
Iron entrance platforms, light fixture
Bridge of Eldin Stone entire stage
Brinstar Dirt connecting blob, flesh poles, left and right soft platforms
Iron main platform, middle soft platform
Brinstar Depths Stone green lights
Iron main platform, floating platforms, protrusions
Castle Siege Dirt throne room
Stone castle roof, underground cavern
Coliseum Stone entire stage
Corneria Iron
Delfino Plaza Dirt beach, grass, beach umbrellas
Stone soft platforms, stone pillars, building roof, Shine Gate, courtyard, walkways
Iron transitioning platform
Distant Planet Dirt main platform, leaves, Red Bulborb
Wood downward slope
Dracula's Castle Dirt carpets
Stone soft platforms, stairs
Dream Land (SSB) Dirt main platform
Wood soft platforms
Dream Land GB Sand Green Greens, Float Islands, Mt. Dedede, Bubbly Clouds, Castle Lololo
Wood Float Islands
Stone Castle Lololo, Castle Lololo
Duck Hunt (stage) Dirt entire stage
Figure-8 Circuit Dirt offroad
Stone racetrack
Final Destination Neutral entire stage
Find Mii Stone main platforms
Iron cage
Flat Zone X Iron entire stage *In the Helmet layout, if Steve mines on the paint spill, he will use his shovel despite it having an Iron terrain class
Fountain of Dreams Dirt main platform
Stone soft platforms
Fourside Stone buildings, UFO
Iron crane-suspended platform
Frigate Orpheon Iron entire stage
Gamer Dirt soft platforms
Wood main platform, soft platforms, solid platforms
Garden of Hope Dirt main platforms
Wood stick, edge of stage
Stone bridge, china pot
Iron tin lifts
Garreg Mach Monastery Dirt Marketplace, magic platform
Wood Marketplace
Stone Marketplace, Reception Hall, Bridge, Cathedral
Iron Reception Hall
Gaur Plain Dirt solid platforms
Stone soft platforms, side of solid platforms
Gerudo Valley Dirt main platform, chasm walls
Wood bridge, soft platforms, chasm platforms
Stone main platform
Golden Plains Dirt main platform, brown soft platform, "treetop" platforms, mushroom platforms
Iron yellow soft platforms, scale platforms, Warp Pipe
Great Bay Dirt Tingle's balloon, turtle
Stone floating rock, turtle
Iron main platforms
Great Plateau Tower Stone entire stage
Green Greens Dirt entire stage
Green Hill Zone Dirt grass
Wood bridge
Stone checkered ground
Halberd Wood Halberd bridge
Iron hangar, floating platform, soft platform
Hanenbow Wood entire stage
Hyrule Castle Stone entire stage
Jungle Japes Wood entire stage
Kalos Pokemon League Dirt main platform
Stone main platform, soft platforms, ramps
Iron swords
King of Fighters Stadium Iron entire stage
Kongo Falls Wood main stage
Stone rock
Kongo Jungle (SSB) Wood entire stage
Living Room Wool high-heel, toy burger, toy cube, toy mouse
Wood floor, building blocks
Iron gold bar
Luigi's Mansion Wood ground floor, second floor, soft platforms
Stone ground floor, roof
Lylat Cruise Iron entire stage
Magicant Wool pink platforms, tomato, tree, Mobile Sprout
Stone Dungeon Man
Iron Sky Runner, octopus statue
Mario Bros. Iron entire stage
Mario Circuit (SSB4) Dirt grass
Wood racetrack, bridge
Stone circular tower, racetrack
Iron transitioning platform, island, "Mario Circuit" sign, "Mario Motors" sign, floating platform
Mario Galaxy Dirt main ground
Iron soft platforms
Mementos Dirt large wall
Stone main stage, soft platform, third platform
Midgar Iron entire stage
Minecraft World Dirt grass blocks, dirt blocks, snow blocks, hay bales, leaves
Wood wood blocks, wood planks, soft platforms
Stone stone blocks
Iron iron ore
Moray Towers Stone entire stage
Iron metal plates
Mushroom Kingdom (SSB) Stone brick platform
Iron main platforms, soft platforms, Warp Pipes
Mushroom Kingdom II Dirt grass, Birdo, Pidgit's carpet
Wood bridge, logs
Mushroom Kingdom U Dirt Acorn Plains, Meringue Clouds, Slide Lift Tower, Stretch Blocks, giant icicle, horizontally-moving platforms, water geysers, beanstalk leaves and branches
Stone Acorn Plains, Meringue Clouds, Rock-Candy Mines
Mushroomy Kingdom Stone ground, bricks, "?" Blocks, stairs
Iron Warp Pipes
Mute City SNES Iron entire stage
New Donk City Hall Stone ground level, building
Iron scaffolding, transitioning platform, floating platforms
New Pork City Wood breakable platform
Stone solid platforms, soft platforms, pendulum platform
Iron limousine
Norfair Iron entire stage
Onett Dirt grass, tree, awnings, festoon
Wood houses
Stone road, chimney
Pac-Land Dirt solid ground, cactuses, clouds
Stone rooftops, brick steps, rocks
Wood tree trunks, bridges
Iron fire hydrants
Palutena's Temple Dirt shallow water, grass, trees, clouds
Wood bridge
Stone temple, rocks, mini stage, rising platform
Iron spike-studded platform
Paper Mario Wood entire stage
Peach's Castle Dirt main platform
Wood soft platform
Stone ?}}
Iron slanted platforms
PictoChat 2 Dirt entire stage
Pilotwings Iron entire stage
Pirate Ship Wood ship, King of Red Lions
Stone rock island
Iron catapult
Pokemon Stadium Dirt Grass Version, Water Version, Fire Version
Wood Grass Version, Water Version, Fire Version
Stone Basic Version, Rock Version
Iron Water Version, Rock Version, Fire Version
Pokemon Stadium 2 Dirt Ground Version, Ice Version
Stone Basic Version, Electric Version
Iron Ground Version, Flying Version, Electric Version
Port Town Aero Dive Iron entire stage
Princess Peach's Castle Stone castle, red/blue/green soft platforms, "!" Blocks
Iron circular soft platforms
Prism Tower Stone street
Iron advancing platform, soft platforms, tower
Rainbow Cruise Dirt obstacle course
Wood ship, obstacle course
Stone ship, obstacle course
Iron ship, obstacle course
Reset Bomb Forest Dirt ground
Wood castle ruins, forest
Stone castle ruins, forest
Saffron City Stone main platforms
Iron floating platforms
Shadow Moses Island Stone bottom secton of destroyed watchtower, crater of completely destroyed watchtower
Iron ground, soft platforms, watchtowers
Skyloft Dirt moving platforms, front of bazaar carpet, floating island, windmill, fortune-teller's house, front of Statue of the Goddess
Wood Knight Academy roof, base of the Light Tower, floating island, windmill, fortune-teller's house
Stone base of the Light Tower, front of bazaar, top of the Light Tower, floating island, Statue of the Goddess, front of Statue of the Goddess
Skyworld Wool clouds
Stone stone platforms
Small Battlefield Neutral entire stage
Spear Pillar Stone entire stage
Spiral Mountain Dirt grass
Wood soft platforms, bridge
Stone sides of Spiral Mountain
Spirit Train Dirt Coal Carriage
Wood Spirit Train, middle carriage, Basic Carriage, Broken Carriage, Multi-platform Carriage, House Carriage, floating platforms
Stone House Carriage
Iron Spirit Train, Armored Train, Dark Train
Spring Stadium Dirt main platform
Iron trampolines
Summit Ice entire stage
Super Happy Tree Wool clouds
Wood main stage, soft platforms
Super Mario Maker Dirt temporary platforms, main stage, soft platforms, railed platforms, mushrooms, ice blocks, Donut Blocks, Brick Blocks, ? Blocks
Wood bridges
Stone unbreakable blocks, lava *can only mine lava when invincible
Iron conveyor belt
Suzaku Castle Wood entire stage
Temple Stone entire stage
The Great Cave Offensive Dirt grass, striped platforms
Wood rails
Stone checkered platforms, crystal area, Danger Zones *despite being a Stone type terrain, Steve uses the shovel on Danger Zones
Iron minecart
Tomodachi Life Stone entire stage
Tortimer Island Sand ground, trees
Wood boardwalk, boat
Town and City Wood entire stage
Training (stage) Dirt entire stage
Umbra Clock Tower Stone entire stage
Unova Pokemon League Stone entire stage
Iron stairs
Venom Iron entire stage
WarioWare, Inc. Dirt entire stage
Wii Fit Studio Dirt entire stage
Wily Castle Iron entire stage
Windy Hill Zone Dirt main stage
Wood windmill
Wrecking Crew Iron entire stage
Wuhu Island Dirt advancing platform, Frisbee Dog Park, Wishing Fountain, Swordplay Colosseum, boating gate
Wood Swaying Bridge, boat, Maka Wuhu
Stone Wishing Fountain, rocks at sea, Maka Wuhu, Talon Rock
Iron boat, Maka Wuhu, boating gate
Yggdrasil's Altar Dirt shallow water
Stone main platform, soft platforms, side platforms
Yoshi's Island (SSBB) Dirt entire stage
Yoshi's Island (SSBM) Dirt grass, hill
Stone Rotating Blocks
Iron Warp Pipes
Yoshi's Story Wool soft platforms, Randall
Wood main platform
Stage Builder elements
Grass terrain Dirt
Dirt terrain
Sand terrain
Rubber terrain
Denim terrain
Carpet terrain
Yarn terrain
Sponge terrain
Bouncy Rubber terrain
Ice terrain
Wood terrain Wood
Paper terrain
Marble terrain Stone
Lava terrain
Steel terrain Iron
Bomb Block Dirt
Explosive Block
By item
Rolling Crate Wood/Iron
By Pokémon
Alolan Exeggutor Dirt
Fire Hydrant Iron *if on a Neutral-type stage, acts as a Neutral-type surface

This is all the data I compiled from the different stages and surfaces. Apologies if it looks a little off. Thecontributor22 (talk) 19:06, October 17, 2020 (EDT)

Intense. You even got the player-made deployables, and on different stages. Maybe make the whole thing a template, so it's easier to place somewhere else? Blackbrass (talk) 08:03, October 18, 2020 (EDT)
I made some edits to the table. Instead of putting down Dirt/Sand/Ice/Wool, I put down "Class 1". When Sakurai was demonstrating Steve, he said the weakest materials would be called Class 1 materials, so I thought that it would be more appropriate. Plus, when the table is moved to a page (not sure if it should be on its own page, or one of the other ones), it can be stated that the Class 1 materials differ by stage.

I posted on this page that Meshima did some in-depth testing of mining resource order and included the link. Also, I am not aware of how to turn the table above into a template.

One last thing: I won't be able to do this myself because I have an emergency that will take me a few days to resolve. If someone could take over, then I would really appreciate it. Thecontributor22 (talk) 16:47, October 19, 2020 (EDT)

I attempted to put this on the page, but couldn't. I changed all instances of "Class 1" materials to their actual appearance, as even though it is only aesthetic, it is still notable. 18:01, October 19, 2020 (EDT)
What exactly was the issue in integrating the table? Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 19:13, October 19, 2020 (EDT)
I copied the table from this talk page to the main page, and I ended up with an error message saying "Sorry, something went wrong. Please try again at a later date." 13:56, October 20, 2020 (EDT)
I think that's why someone suggested to turn it into a template; I can take care of that for you. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 14:50, October 20, 2020 (EDT)


The word "生成" can be translated as "create" in many contexts:

生成 on jisho

生成 on goo

Japanese has a different word order than English that needs to be translated, which would make "ブロック生成", "Create Block".

The Japanese words are all in the same form, nouns that can be made into verbs (and sometimes used as if they were) using "-する", so I've changed the English to all be consistant. For example "mine" and "craft", and "mining" and "crafting".

But this brings another problem on this wiki, the translations and how they're done is inconsistent.

On pages like this one, Marth_(SSBU), Peach Parasol, Ness_(SSBU) and probably a billion others there are translations where they're the exact same and probably unnecessary.

On some pages like Gale Stab and some others, no translation is given as it's the exact same.

On some like Wonderwing, Plasma Scream and some others, there are "Names in other languages" boxes.

On some pages like Diddy Kong and some others, there is a translation after his name and a "Names in other languages" box.

And some pages like Super_Smash_Bros._4 and some others, there is no translation at all.

Maybe we should make it so there are only "And on some like Wonderwing, Plasma Scream and some others, there are "Names in other languages" boxes like the Mario Wiki so we can put more detail and maybe an explanation behind the translations and translations for other languages.

An example where a "Names in other languages" box's explanation is better than a translation line would be Mario Wiki Piranha Plant and Smash Wiki Piranha Plant ChokalZeime (talk) 01:39, October 16, 2020 (EDT)

The wiki is already inconsistent with its integration of the tables. It's my understanding that the tables are to be used wiki-wide, but there are plenty of pages that don't use them (because they haven't been implemented). I was never the biggest fan of the table, though I find it to be a force of habit to have the Japanese next to the English (rather than a direct rebellion), and as the one who made this page, I can only apologize for that.
More to the point, however, while it isn't the most reliable source, 生成 was translated by Google Translate as "generate", which, while a bit lengthy, still conveys the same meaning that "Create Block" does, if you ask me. Though I absolutely do not speak Japanese, so I can't exactly say much on this. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 19:13, October 19, 2020 (EDT)