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The info box says Byleth first appeared in a mobile game, the trivia says they are the first character to debut on Switch. Clearly a contradiction so we need to decide which is it. First Mobile character or first Switch character. I'd say first Switch as Sonic isn't counted as an Arcade character for his promotional appearance. (Between Byleth in Hero and Roy in Smash, Fire Emblem has a history.) Guybrush20X6 (talk) 17:33, January 16, 2020 (EST)

Byleth technically appearing in FE Heroes slightly before Three Houses came out is not really a justification for saying the character is "from" a mobile game. Treating the character as having debuted on Switch is more reasonable. Miles (talk) 17:42, January 16, 2020 (EST)

To all the Byleth haters[edit]

It’s just a fictional videogame character so don’t complain about him or her. It’s Sakurai’s choice, not yours. He/she might be a Marth recolor that’s boring but people who don’t want Byleth in the game are probably people who want Waluigi the assist trophy in too. Too bad Cuphead won’t be playable though. 22:35, January 16, 2020 (EST)

Not what the talk page is for. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 22:37, January 16, 2020 (EST)

It wasn't Sakurai's choice, it was Nintendo who chose the DLC characters. SammyTFM (talk) 14:23, January 18, 2020 (EST)


Just... why? I really wanted Hat Kid (Don't judge indie potential, if Shovel Knight exists in the world of smash, then so could the lassie!) to join the roster. we already have enough Fire Emblem characters as is! (And fyi SammyTFM, technically Cuphead will be a Mii Gunner costume so... yeah.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:54, January 18, 2020 (EST)

Again, not what the talk page is for. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 17:57, January 18, 2020 (EST)


Shouldn't the title address Byleth as Byleth Eisner like how Terry is Terry Bogard or how Samus is Samus Aran? Pratikmii03 (talk) 19:55, January 18, 2020 (EST)

Unlike Samus Aran or Terry Bogard, as far as I know Byleth is never actually referred to by their last name. Only their father has his last name given, but it's very possible for a child to have a different last name from their parent. Even then, last names are very minor in Fire Emblem, usually only briefly mentioned, so even then it's unnecessary. 01:47, January 19, 2020 (EST)
Hmm, that’s a good question. I wanted to ask that as well. SonDanielSonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 20:01, April 7, 2020 (EDT)


Can we tone down on the spoilers? 3H is still very knew and is inevitably going to grow after Challenger Pack 5 releases, so spoilers on its story should be avoided Pepdog2 (talk) 21:50, January 21, 2020 (EST)

As per SW:NOT, SmashWiki is not spoiler-free. And besides the only thing spoiled past mid-game afaik is the true origin of the Heroes' Relics. DekZek Dekzeksig.png 22:02, January 21, 2020 (EST)

Not OP, but there should be spoiler warnings like on Bulbapedia 14:19, June 23, 2020 (EDT)

Again, SmashWiki is not spoiler-safe. In addition, just because other wikis do something, it does not mean we have to. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer (talk) 14:35, June 23, 2020 (EDT)

Outdated info[edit]

"With a July 2019 debut, Byleth is currently the most recent fighter in Super Smash Bros. history."


(I'm too scared to edit)

Iluvchess (talk) 12:56, June 23, 2020 (EDT)

It is still a correct information; it states that their debut in any game, not just Smash, is the most recent one of any currently playable character. If you were thinking about Min Min, ARMS came out in June 2017, while Dragon Quest XI, for the Luminary, first came out on July 2017 in Japan. Also, you shouldn't be scared to edit, even if you add once a wrong information it's not the end of the world. --Rdrfc (talk) 14:01, June 23, 2020 (EDT)

Thank you! And yes, I was thinking of Min Min 14:06, June 23, 2020 (EDT)