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:Well, it's noteworthy. It's something unusual that happens to Kirby's model. It's verifiable, as indicated by the photos you uploaded. It's detailed in text, both the means of achieving and the results acquired. It doesn't really fit with any other part of the article - the attributes, changes from ''Brawl'', update history, moveset, in competitive play, trophies, in event matches, alternate costumes, or gallery - and since they are miscellaneous facts about the character in the game, they belong there. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:01, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:Well, it's noteworthy. It's something unusual that happens to Kirby's model. It's verifiable, as indicated by the photos you uploaded. It's detailed in text, both the means of achieving and the results acquired. It doesn't really fit with any other part of the article - the attributes, changes from ''Brawl'', update history, moveset, in competitive play, trophies, in event matches, alternate costumes, or gallery - and since they are miscellaneous facts about the character in the game, they belong there. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:01, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::In addition, glitches like that are undeserving of their own section. My reasoning is that they do not affect the gameplay. One is a minor aesthetic change in Kirby's eyes, and the other is a case of graphic clipping in the training mode under specific circumstances. Now if they were glitches of larger scale, of far greater graphical or gameplay impact, maybe, just maybe, it'd be enough to warrant its own section. But these two? They're best off in Trivia. Do you understand? '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:05, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::In addition, glitches like that are undeserving of their own section. My reasoning is that they do not affect the gameplay. One is a minor aesthetic change in Kirby's eyes, and the other is a case of graphic clipping in the training mode under specific circumstances. Now if they were glitches of larger scale, of far greater graphical or gameplay impact, maybe, just maybe, it'd be enough to warrant its own section. But these two? They're best off in Trivia. Do you understand? '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:05, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::#The second one is not something unusual with Kirby's model; something like the fact that Brawl Ganon goes into a T-pose for a short time after using his Final Smash is. Something like Wolf's arm becoming detached in certain circumstances is.
:::#Exactly, it doesn't fit the rest of the article, so therefore, it gets its own section on the page.
:::#You're going to tell me that glitches are undeserving of sections when [[Size superjump glitch|multiple]] [[Single Player match|smaller]] [[Giga Bowser Bomb glitch|glitches]] have their own pages?
:::[[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 14:12, 20 January 2016 (EST)

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Inhale? Really?

The page says he retains Inhale. I've looked everywhere, where's some picture proof of Inhale? (Un-User) 72.106.158.15 13:09, 28 January 2014 (EST)

I was also wondering about this. While I'm 101% sure Inhale will be returning, we shouldn't put it in the article without direct confirmation. FirstaLasto 13:48, 23 February 2014 (EST)
The Custom Move Sets explanation shows a modified version that freezes opponents. Hopefully hats are still in. --Headcase (talk) 00:59, 13 April 2014 (EDT)
Hats have been confirmed via screenshot, actually. I should probably put it in the article. FirstaLasto 01:55, 13 April 2014 (EDT)


Iv heard that Kirby's Final Smash isn't cook anymore but something like Ultra Sword BTW not 100% official --Reshiram1105 (talk) 20:32, 23 May 2014 (EDT)

It is. --EpicWendigo (talk) 20:34, 23 May 2014 (EDT)

New Down Special revealed in Nintendo Treehouse

Kirby had a custom Down Special called Hammer Bash revealed in the Nintendo Treehouse section about Smash Run. Shouldn't we update the article with this information? http://gfycat.com/DimpledGiddyAcornbarnacle —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truth (talkcontribs) 13:28, June 13, 2014 (CDT)

Why is Hammer Bash listed as a down special move? Lumastar (talk) This image is for my userpage.
Because it's listed as a down special in the video. I'm assuming it either involves Kirby falling downward with his hammer held spinning below him (known as Hammer Twirl in the Kirby games), or it's a bug. Either way, we can't speculate in the article, so writing it as it is in the official video is all we can do. FirstaLasto 01:57, 25 June 2014 (EDT)

Listen I have a friend whose father works at Nintendo, I asked him a question about why the custom moves are like that. His father responded to him that they are working on those glitches. So Hammer Bash can be a side special and not a down special. Also custom moves are rip off variations of both name and move (Except Palutena and Mii Fighters). The Smash Brotha (talk) 12:34, 29 July 2014 (EDT)

It's incredibly likely that the Specials were mis-labeled, but we have no solid proof of it yet, and your "friend" who's father works at nintendo is not a reliable source. Also, what do you mean by "rip-off variations"? What move would Stagnant Shuriken rip-off? Or Melee Charge Shot? Also, Smash Wiki is not Speculative, so keep this info on this page. Laikue (talk) 14:50, 29 July 2014 (EDT)
Stagnant Shuriken = Water Shuriken. Melee Charge Shot = Charge Shot. What I mean by "rip-off variations" I mean by both move and name. An example is something like Mario's neutral special "Fireball" being something like "Fast Fireball" or "Fire Orb." Another example is Donkey Kong's neutral special "Giant Punch" being something like "Storm Punch". I'm not being speculative I'm telling the truth. The Smash Brotha (talk) 10:12, 30 July 2014 (EDT)

Confirmed Changed

What about his bair, it appears to deal 13% or 14% damage, shouldn't it be listed in the "have slightly improved damage" buff? Smash Master 21:16, 6 August 2014 (EDT)

Custom Moves Confirmed in Japanese Mini-Direct 8/29/2014

As edited in Character_customization#Kirby, Kirby's custom special moves have been confirmed at least in Japanese. Perhaps the Hammer Bash previously described might be Side Custom 2, "Giant Hammer". - Guest 101.114.54.52 22:04, 29 August 2014 (EDT)

I finished the game

I got all the custom moves for Kirby, mii's (all 3), Metanight, Mario, Luigi, rest of starter characters and Dr.Mario .--Reshiram1105 (talk) 08:33, 13 October 2014 (EDT)

Congrats man, but this isn't appropriate talk for a talk page. Gpev96 (SHAZAM!) (talk) 09:18, 14 October 2014 (EDT)

Revision all Differences

In v1.0.4, Kirby's Side and Down Smashes do 1% more base damage than they did before. Should we make note of this?

Those attacks seem to deal the same amount of damage as before when I looked at the damage values. LimitCrown (talk) 16:42, 18 November 2014 (EST)

Time Up Air Drop Invisibility Bug

It seems that, at least in the 3DS version, if Kirby is offscreen when the match ends as the result of using his up throw, him and his victim will become invisible for the remainder of the post-game slo-mo if they come back into view. Interestingly, his Copy Ability hat doesn't become invisible, even if it was taken from the victim of the throw (who does). I don't know if similar things occur with similar up throws (such as Meta Knight's or Charizard's), or whether or not this occurs in the Wii U version at all.

Was this bug already known? Should it be posted in this article, or any other article? FirstaLasto 00:20, 2 January 2015 (EST)

Okay, turns out this bug is actually universal (at least in the 3DS version). Everyone character will become invisible if they go offscreen after the match ends but before the results screen. FirstaLasto 23:48, 16 January 2015 (EST)

The Names of Kirby's Attacks

Why can't the known names of Kirby's attacks be added? Like Mega Man, his attacks have been named in the series of games from which he came. LimitCrown (talk) 13:51, 24 February 2015 (EST)

Except Mega Man's are officially named in a Smash context in the April 2014 Smash Direct. You can mention the origin of Kirby's moves in the rightmost column, but not in the name column unless you have an official Smash source identifying them by name. Miles (talk) 14:04, 24 February 2015 (EST)
Hypothetically, if none of Mega Man's moves besides his special moves were named by an official Smash source, would they still have names like they do right now? If so, then I'm not sure why none of Kirby's regular attacks can be named in the table. LimitCrown (talk) 16:40, 24 February 2015 (EST)
They would get notes about their origin the way the page for Mr. Game & Watch has them. The name column is 100% only for things with names confirmed within the context of Smash; naming in their home series isn't enough. Miles (talk) 16:54, 24 February 2015 (EST)
None of Mr. Game & Watch's attacks besides his special moves have been given an official name in either the series of games from which he originated or Smash Bros., though. LimitCrown (talk) 04:16, 26 February 2015 (EST)
You're missing the point. Unless official Smash material has named the move like Mega Man's moves in the Direct, Lightning Kick, Knee Smash, etc., we're not listing a name in the name column. That is not a policy that I see any reason to change. Miles (talk) 12:29, 26 February 2015 (EST)

Alpharad? Notable Player?

Please remove Alpharad from "notable players". He has hardly any tournament results and is only known for memes related to smash rather than his smash skill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.188.108 (talkcontribs) 00:38 21 August 2015 (EDT)

To Aardvarkian

Give me one good reason why that should be in the trivia. AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Space WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 13:57, 20 January 2016 (EST)

Well, it's noteworthy. It's something unusual that happens to Kirby's model. It's verifiable, as indicated by the photos you uploaded. It's detailed in text, both the means of achieving and the results acquired. It doesn't really fit with any other part of the article - the attributes, changes from Brawl, update history, moveset, in competitive play, trophies, in event matches, alternate costumes, or gallery - and since they are miscellaneous facts about the character in the game, they belong there. Aardvarkian (TalkContributions) 14:01, 20 January 2016 (EST)
In addition, glitches like that are undeserving of their own section. My reasoning is that they do not affect the gameplay. One is a minor aesthetic change in Kirby's eyes, and the other is a case of graphic clipping in the training mode under specific circumstances. Now if they were glitches of larger scale, of far greater graphical or gameplay impact, maybe, just maybe, it'd be enough to warrant its own section. But these two? They're best off in Trivia. Do you understand? Aardvarkian (TalkContributions) 14:05, 20 January 2016 (EST)
  1. The second one is not something unusual with Kirby's model; something like the fact that Brawl Ganon goes into a T-pose for a short time after using his Final Smash is. Something like Wolf's arm becoming detached in certain circumstances is.
  2. Exactly, it doesn't fit the rest of the article, so therefore, it gets its own section on the page.
  3. You're going to tell me that glitches are undeserving of sections when multiple smaller glitches have their own pages?
AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Space WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 14:12, 20 January 2016 (EST)