Talk:Effect

Is Ink an effect?

I know this might be a dumb question but is Ink an effect or not? Because before, it was listed as an effect, but suddenly it isn't an effect anymore. May someone clear things up? I don't think this will be anything to start a debate over, but I'm just asking. Luigi1234 (talk) 18:49, 10 January 2019 (EST)

The definition of effect on this page states that its "the term used to refer to what kind of elemental properties an attack applies to what it hits." Ink is mostly an attribute of Inkling as far as I know, sonce it really doesn't have elemental properties. SugarCookie420 (talk) 19:06, 10 January 2019 (EST)

It was incorrect to have added ink in the first place (which was done pre-release). It made sense based on history, but once the game came out it was disproved. Toomai Glittershine The Aurum 20:10, 10 January 2019 (EST)

Possible effects

I believe there are two new effects in Ultimate that are missing from this list, but I don't have the ability to check the game data to confirm. Apparently it was possible to confirm that ink is not an effect, so hopefully the same can be done with these two.

• The Ramblin' Evil Mushroom inflicts a "Mushroom" status on the target, in a very similar manner to the Lip's Stick and the flower effect.
• Joker's Eiha and Eigaon inflict a status on the target (let's call it "Cursed") that inflicts damage over time, like the flower and poison effects, but has a completely different appearance to them. (Additionally, it is not blocked by Poison Immunity and stacks with the flower effect, so cannot be either one of the existing statuses.) It does look quite similar to the darkness effect, however.

There is an implication that only moves with a corresponding effect can inflict a given status condition, so it follows that these two new status conditions would require a corresponding effect. Or is that assumption incorrect? --SnorlaxMonster 06:52, April 20, 2019 (EDT)

Indeed, the reason it's called "effect" is because at the time (Brawl) there was a 1:1 correspondance between the property and statuses being applied. (Ink is the first case where this relationship was broken.) Unfortunately I can't hard-confirm myself yet. Toomai Glittershine The Indescribable 10:11, April 20, 2019 (EDT)