Talk:Banjo/Archive 1

Split

These are 2 totally different charecters. if Luma and Pikmin can get a page surely these 2 can. XtraTalk Edits 12:58, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

100% agree. SerpentKing 12:58, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, I think it would be better, since Kazooie has her own personality and her own attacks. Anthony1996 (talk) 13:02, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

How about we just make this page a disambiguation and make it link to Banjo Kazooie, & Banjo & Kazooie (SSBU) XtraTalk Edits 13:01, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

I vehemently oppose splitting; there's no mechanic of them operating separately as characters like Pikmin or Luma which have individual actions. A better analogue is Duck Hunt - two entities functioning as one duo. Miles (talk) 13:04, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Difference between duckhunt and this is that duckhunt is just a duck, not really a charecter. Kazooie is a charecter. XtraTalk Edits 13:06, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

It doesn't really make sense to talk about them separately, though. They're near-universally handled as a duo, and there's little to say about them separately when the character slot is named for both of them as a duo, not even with "&" like Rosalina. Miles (talk) 13:11, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

That's actually what I thought when I wrote the page. I don't know. I knew this discussion would happen. Anthony1996 (talk) 13:25, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Oppose The difference between Banjo and Rosalina is that Banjo is almost never seen without Kazooie, while Rosalina is almost always without a Luma outside of Smash. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer Leave a message if needed 13:12, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Support. To be completely honest I wouldn't mind splitting the dog and duck, too. TheNuttyOne 13:15, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Miles, this is about the character page, not the fighter page. Smash mechanics are irrelevant here. SerpentKing 13:16, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Oppose. Luma, Pikmin and Kazooie are separate characters with their own abilities yes but Kazooie is more tailored as a connection to banjo. it wouldn't feel right if they have separate pages Mr.gameandfight (talk) 13:37, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Oppose. If we're gonna do it for Rosaluma, why not Ice Climbers? And that would be stupid. I think because it's one fighter, we should keep it to one wiki page (if not to save server space, at least because they're the same fighter, just with two characters.) Here's what I'm proposing. I think it would be better to have two separate *sections* on the pages, but not two pages. The sections could tell us the roles of both characters in that one fighter. What each one does in moves/taunts/whatever else. That should be the standard for Rosaluma, Duck Hunt, etc. That's how it should be done in my opinion. N0where (talk) 13:51, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Oppose. Banjo and Kazooi ar e more like the duck hunt Dog and Bird, they more or less share the same skeleton. I dont think Kazooi can be KO'ed on her own without Banjo, again like the duck from duck Hunt. Olimar and rosalina can function without pikmin and luma, but Banjo and Kazooi don't seem like they'd be able to function without one another.
Ixbran (talk) 13:54, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

This is a charecter page, not a fighter page we shouldn't have to worry about how they play just the fact that these are 2 very diffferent charecters. XtraTalk Edits 13:56, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Support The official website calls them Banjo AND Kazooie rather than "Banjo-Kazooie" like the trailer did. Gagesango (talk) 14:11, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Oppose Does Duck Hunt Dog and the ducks have their own page? Obviously not the best example but Duck Hunt Dog is never seen without its duck. CookiesCreme 14:43, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Here's the thing: Rosalina and Luma are two different entities with two different movesets. Pikmin help out Olimar by being his attacks. From the looks of it, Banjo and Kazooie are pretty much one entity - they function as one being, much like Duck Hunt. Aidan, the Rurouni 14:44, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Once again though, this article is not about their appearance in smash. Therefore their smash appearance (which I agree: one article) should not be considered here. SerpentKing 14:54, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

I think Aidan's point is that the only other instance of two separate characters fighting as one "entity" -- Duck Hunt -- isn't split. Therefore, it would be inconsistent to split Banjo and Kazooie but not the dog and ducks. Like I said, I personally would prefer splitting both. TheNuttyOne 15:00, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

I oppose to the split because of Duck Hunt and Ice Climbers. If we split Banjo-Kazooie than Popo and Nana would need to be separated and so would the nameless dog and duck. And besides, we're Smash Wiki so we should have emphasis on the Super Smash Bros. series. SeanWheeler (talk) 16:45, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Weak oppose for the same reasoning. They're distinct as characters, yes, but they're very closely related in Smash and in their native games, just like Duck Hunt and the Ice Climbers. Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 17:27, June 11, 2019 (EDT)