Ganondorf (SSB4)/Up special/Default

Hitbox visualization showing Ganondorf's Dark Dive.

Overview

Ganondorf performs Dark Dive, in which he leaps upwards and performs an uppercut. If Ganondorf hits an opponent while using Dark Dive, he will latch onto them and discharge electricity before launching them with an explosion and jumping off. If Ganondorf is able to grab an opponent with Dark Dive, he will not go into a helpless state, and allows him to reuse the move again, giving him more versatility offstage. As Dark Dive is a command grab, it cannot be shielded if used against a grounded opponent and is a decent out of shield move. Alternatively, if Ganondorf misses the grabbing portion of the move, opponents can still be hit with the uppercut at the peak of Ganondorf's jump, which can be used to catch aerial opponents off guard.

However, the move covers minimal horizontal or vertical distance and causes helplessness, making it a very poor recovery move. In addition, the move has very weak knockback even to the similar Falcon Dive, and is overall Ganondorf's weakest move, having difficulty at finishing off opponents at percentages as high as 225%. A successful grab also has an extreme ending lag of 60 frames, making it punishable and even gimpable if the opponent techs the move from under the stage.

Update history

1.1.3

• Dark Dive improved. The multi-hits deal 0.2% more damage, the final hit deals 2% more damage, and has slightly increased knockback growth.

Hitboxes

Rising

ID	Radius	Bone	Offset			Stretch			G	A
Early Grabboxes
0	4.4	0	0.0	16.0	6.5	—
1	6.5	0	0.0	8.8	13.7	—
Late Grabboxes
0	4.4	0	0.0	16.0	6.5	—

ID	Part	Damage	SD	Angle	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			SDIx	H×	T%	Clang	Rebound	Type	Effect	G	A	Sound	Direct
Uppercut
0	0	7%	0		70	90	0	9.0	22	6.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%							Burn
1	0	7%	0		70	90	0	6.0	22	-1.0	0.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%							Burn

Grab

ID	Part	Damage	SD	Angle	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			SDIx	H×	T%	Clang	Rebound	Type	Effect	G	A	Sound	Direct
Electricity
0	0	1.2%	0		50	100	0	7.0	0	0.0	9.0	0.0	1.0x	1.0x	0%							Shock

ID	Damage	Angle		BK	KS	FKV	Bone	FFx	Type	Effect	Sound
Throw
0	9%		Forwards	40	90	0	0	None			Burn

Timing

Rising

Grab	14, 15-28
Hitboxes	34-36
Animation length	64

Throw

Electricity	4, 8, 12, 16
Throw	17
Interruptible	76
Animation length	75

Legend (1 square = 1 frame)

Lag time

Hitbox

Grab

Ganondorf's moveset

Neutral attack · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Floor attack (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor attack (trip) · Edge attack
Neutral special (def · c1 · c2) · Side special (def · c1 · c2) · Up special (def · c1 · c2) · Down special (def · c1 · c2) · Final Smash