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I have one major problem with both of these characters, both significant enough that I can't vote for one over the other. I prefer Luigi's moveset as a whole, but Mario was the original one of the two, and Luigi has never been as good as Mario in Smash games. Then there's Luigi's dash attack, and Mario's F.L.U.D.D., neither of which I can stand in the slightest... My vote goes to Bowser. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>'''''
I have one major problem with both of these characters, both significant enough that I can't vote for one over the other. I prefer Luigi's moveset as a whole, but Mario was the original one of the two, and Luigi has never been as good as Mario in Smash games. Then there's Luigi's dash attack, and Mario's F.L.U.D.D., neither of which I can stand in the slightest... My vote goes to Bowser. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>'''''
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==Week 33: [[Charizard]] vs. [[Bowser]]==
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===Votes for Charizard===
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#Charizard doesn't fail at life, unlike Bowser.--'''[[User:Bek The Conqueror|<font color="darkgreen">Bek</font>]]''' [[User talk:Bek The Conqueror|<font color="darkblue">(talk)</font>]] 17:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
#Charizard is faster and has got that deadly Rock Smash! '''[[User:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkTurquoise">Cloned</span>]][[User talk:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Pickle</span>]]''' 18:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
#Bowser is dumb and annoying :<  --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 18:39, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
#Bowser gets shamed in the SSE, and hasn't been in a good game (not including Smash games) for ''ages'' (sorry Mario fans, but he hasn't), whereas Charizard was one of my favourite Generation I Pokémon (second only to Mewtwo). Charizard ''For The Win'' any day... '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 21:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
#I beat Boss Battles on very hard difficulty by staling Charizard's rock. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 19:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
#Although Bowser is the King of Evil (in the Mario series anyway), Charizard will still give him a run for his money. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.108.24|220.253.108.24]] 04:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
#Bowser's down throw is pansexual.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|I see wat u did thar...</span></sup>]] 00:54, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
#Sorry, Bowser, but Charizard can [[Rock Smash|rock]]. [[User:PurpleDarkness|<font color="red"><span style="font-family:Arial;">'''PurpleDarkness'''</span></font>]] <font color="navyblue">([[User talk:PurpleDarkness|<font color="navyblue">talk</font>]])</font> 01:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
#RAGE <!-- FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU --> <span style="border:2px outset #ff66ff;background-color: #66ff99;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 16:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
#Bowser's VERY easy to fool, as seen in the SSE when Ganondorf shot his ass with that Shadow Cannon or whatever the hell it's called. All Charizard would have to do is play dead and then, when Bowser's not looking, he'll use Rock Smash and then kill Bowser. The end. .[[User:Jason Melnick|<span style="color:purple;">Jason</span>]] [[User talk:Jason Melnick|<span style="color:white;">Melnick</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Jason Melnick|Darkness is a state of mind</span></sup>]] 16:94, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
# Charizard was my best FireRed pokemon. And bowser is too slow to even fit '''my''' slow play style. (Just ask [[User:Links assistant|Kyle]] for how bad it is for slow... '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">'''I HATE MEMES'''</span></sup></small>]]'''
# Charizard is better than Bowser any day in my book. [[User:Chocolatepie|Chocolatepie]] ([[User talk:Chocolatepie|talk]]) 16:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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#Bowser is just downright awesome, the very definition of power. Charizard's cool too, but I can't detect the same type of ferocity from him. - <font face="times new roman">[[User:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:purple">'''GalaxiaD'''</span>]]</font><font face="times new roman"> <sup>[[User Talk:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:black">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></font> 17:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
#Just look at my name. [[User:KingBowser|KingBowser]] ([[User talk:KingBowser|talk]]) 20:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
#Bowser just has to dump some water or throw a rock and Charizard is down. Not to mention his evil lackeys. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] <choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose>&nbsp;<small>[[Special:Contributions/Toomai|cntrbs]]</small> 03:25, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
# I dispise Pokemon, and I'm a Mario fan so... [[User:Twilightwizard0309|Twilightwizard0309]] ([[User talk:Twilightwizard0309|talk]]) 00:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
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@Charizard voter number 4: What about Super Mario Galaxy? [[User:KingBowser|KingBowser]] ([[User talk:KingBowser|talk]]) 20:58, 31 May 2009 (UTC)<br>
@KingBowser: I am fully aware of its existence, as I am fully aware of the existence of all other recent Bowser games, and I stand by my comment (except that I've now changed it slightly to exclude Smash games). '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 21:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Where is the anonymous votes section? I would like to vote. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.108.24|220.253.108.24]] 03:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
:There is no longer a difference between IPs and users. Go ahead and vote. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] <choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose>&nbsp;<small>[[Special:Contributions/Toomai|cntrbs]]</small> 03:25, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
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Week 31: Zelda vs. Sheik

Winner!!
Zelda

13 to 6
Zelda the princess and Sheik the ninja -- whose powers are more worthy of victory?

Votes for Zelda

  1. Zelda's hotter. :P - GalaxiaD Talk 19:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. All Sheik ever actually did was give stuff to Link. Link went through a ton to save Zelda, but did he go through anything to save Sheik? No. ParadoxJuice (talk) 20:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Zelda is the protagonist of the serie, she is pretty, has powerful magic, helped Link to escape from Ganon's Tower, gave him the ocarina to control Time, resurrect Midna to help Link... I need to go on ? :P Metalink187 (talk) 20:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. When it comes to characters of the sames series, I generally like the stronger character more than the faster character. Enigmatic Mr. L (talk)
  5. Shiek throws needles. Zelda reflects them. KingBowser (talk) 21:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. ^what they said --Shadowcrest 03:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
  7. Zelda FTW. My favored Char :D is there any thing she can't do? -- F4Sig.png † F1© Talk 18:58, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
  8. Zelda is hot, and she is more powerful in attacks. ClonedPickle 19:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
  9. Sheik's more popular. Besides, Zelda can weild a sword AND magic. PurpleDarkness (talk) 01:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  10. Zelda is very easy to use. Sheik is not. Dexington (talk) 18:35, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  11. Zelda's magical powers could blow up Sheik before she even touches her. Hyper Shadow (talk) 22:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
  12. Zelda dominated Ganon in Wind Waker. Shiek ran away and hid in all of OoT. Meta-Kirb (talk) 00:34, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Sheik is merely a disguise. If Zelda wanted she could do everything that Sheik can do as well as her magical abilities. 220.253.19.123 03:23, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Without Zelda, Link would have had a hard time beating Ganon/Ganondorf in Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess. 220.253.14.203 05:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Votes for Sheik

  1. Shiek has t3h n1nj4 skillz.L33t Silvie I see wat u did thar... 19:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. ninjawithchainsaywhat Blue Ninjakoopa 21:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Zelda wears a dress. The Horror'Speak if you dare 14:36, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Zelda is the victim and Sheik is the disguise. The only time Zelda helps out in any of the Zelda games is in OoT. I know Sheik only helped in one game, but without her teaching you the songs, you would have to take horse to get across Hyrule Field. Unknown the Hedgehog 17:23, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. She is faster, and her teleport. . .move is cooler looking.Learner4 (talk) 18:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. Melee pwnage..? Miles (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

Comments

ParadoxJuice : Your point is useless. Sheik didn't need to be saved and your argument is more support for Sheik than for Zelda. Oh and you forgot about the scene when Bongo bongo escape and Link is trying to protect Sheik. ;) Metalink187 (talk) 20:41, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

At Unknown, Zelda plays in the boss fights in multiple games, and she also helps out as Tetra in WW. --Shadowcrest 18:24, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

See, the word "help" is so relative in this situation... I am still mad at Tetra for making me lose my sword by catapulting me into the fortress when they could have just gone in all guns blazing and dropped me off once the gate was down.--Bek (talk) 21:02, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

@SuperTeddy: What's wrong with a fighter wearing a dress? I mean, look at Peach, she's wearing a dress, and she STILL can kick butt. PurpleDarkness (talk) 01:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

The Horror said that, not SuperTeddy. - GalaxiaD Talk 17:06, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
The Horror IS SuperTeddy. Blue Ninjakoopa 18:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

@ PurpleDarkness: Peach kicks with her butt = Fail. The Horror'Speak if you dare 17:56, 18 May 2009 (UTC) @ Horror: But Peach has an infinite and her dair is amazing JtM =^] (talk) 00:40, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

@SuperTeddy: Dude, that's sexist. Just because a girl wears a dress, doesn't mean she can't kick butt. PurpleDarkness (talk) 01:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Week 32: Mario vs. Luigi

Winner!!
Luigi

13 to 3
You knew it was coming -- which Mario Bro shall be the victor in this clash of brothers?

Votes for Mario

  1. Much better taste in women :P --Shadowcrest 03:39, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Mario is the emblem that every player knows (and even more). Luigi is not, and will not be, as famous him. Metalink187 (talk) 19:11, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Mario tends to outshine Luigi in everyway. Even Luigi acknowledges this. 220.253.224.105 02:01, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Votes for Luigi

  1. Always vote for the underdog.L33t Silvie I see wat u did thar... 20:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. He's my third favorite Mario character. Besides, if he wasn't awesome, then would he have this? PurpleDarkness (talk) 01:41, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Brawl Luigi=Melee Mario. Brawl Mario=Dave Chapelle's Hershey stains. It's obvious who's better. - GalaxiaD Talk 21:21, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. He's my favorite Nintendo character of all time, and I think he is a better fighter anyway. ClonedPickle 21:51, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. Go Weegee! KingBowser (talk) 22:13, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. He's my favorite Mario character, I don't why. I just think he's cooler than Mario. Unknown the Hedgehog 23:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
  7. Super Jump Punch. Boom. The Dark Muse (talk) 23:33, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
  8. Luigi is better in everything. The Horror'Speak if you dare 08:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
  9. Weegee kick + Negative Zone = Win. Enigmatic Mr. L (talk) 13:37, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
  10. Mario isn't great at anything, Luigi is just much easier to use. Dexington (talk) 23:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
  11. Pfft... Screw simple and balanced out! I want teh fyre jump punch! FTW!! Go Weegee! ~Teh Blue Blur~~You're too slow!~ 11:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
  12. To play: Mario, but Weegee is too cool to be outvoted! Ike's Best BuddyHere, my Friends
  13. Green > Red. It may not be the greatest reason, but I still think Luigi OWNZ! Also, he can launch himself like a rocket. Can mario do that? 68.193.138.167 17:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Hey, I just realized something... Mario's section = Red and Luigi's = Green. Sorry, had to state the obvious. ~Teh Blue Blur~~You're too slow!~ 11:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

@ Anon. Voter 1, kinda, with the Super Jump Punch... Ike's Best BuddyI HATE MEMES

Don't forget Green missle! 68.193.138.167 15:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I have one major problem with both of these characters, both significant enough that I can't vote for one over the other. I prefer Luigi's moveset as a whole, but Mario was the original one of the two, and Luigi has never been as good as Mario in Smash games. Then there's Luigi's dash attack, and Mario's F.L.U.D.D., neither of which I can stand in the slightest... My vote goes to Bowser. PenguinofDeath

Week 33: Charizard vs. Bowser

Winner!!
Charizard

12 to 4
The fire-breathing monsters of Brawl are set to clash in the Arena.

Votes for Charizard

  1. Charizard doesn't fail at life, unlike Bowser.--Bek (talk) 17:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Charizard is faster and has got that deadly Rock Smash! ClonedPickle 18:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Bowser is dumb and annoying :< --Shadowcrest 18:39, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Bowser gets shamed in the SSE, and hasn't been in a good game (not including Smash games) for ages (sorry Mario fans, but he hasn't), whereas Charizard was one of my favourite Generation I Pokémon (second only to Mewtwo). Charizard For The Win any day... PenguinofDeath 21:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. I beat Boss Battles on very hard difficulty by staling Charizard's rock. Unknown the Hedgehog 19:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. Although Bowser is the King of Evil (in the Mario series anyway), Charizard will still give him a run for his money. 220.253.108.24 04:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. Bowser's down throw is pansexual.L33t Silvie I see wat u did thar... 00:54, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
  8. Sorry, Bowser, but Charizard can rock. PurpleDarkness (talk) 01:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
  9. RAGE Blue Ninjakoopa 16:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
  10. Bowser's VERY easy to fool, as seen in the SSE when Ganondorf shot his ass with that Shadow Cannon or whatever the hell it's called. All Charizard would have to do is play dead and then, when Bowser's not looking, he'll use Rock Smash and then kill Bowser. The end. .Jason Melnick Darkness is a state of mind 16:94, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
  11. Charizard was my best FireRed pokemon. And bowser is too slow to even fit my slow play style. (Just ask Kyle for how bad it is for slow... Ike's Best BuddyI HATE MEMES
  12. Charizard is better than Bowser any day in my book. Chocolatepie (talk) 16:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Votes for Bowser

  1. Bowser is just downright awesome, the very definition of power. Charizard's cool too, but I can't detect the same type of ferocity from him. - GalaxiaD Talk 17:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Just look at my name. KingBowser (talk) 20:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Bowser just has to dump some water or throw a rock and Charizard is down. Not to mention his evil lackeys. Toomai Glittershine The Stats Guy cntrbs 03:25, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. I dispise Pokemon, and I'm a Mario fan so... Twilightwizard0309 (talk) 00:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments

@Charizard voter number 4: What about Super Mario Galaxy? KingBowser (talk) 20:58, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
@KingBowser: I am fully aware of its existence, as I am fully aware of the existence of all other recent Bowser games, and I stand by my comment (except that I've now changed it slightly to exclude Smash games). PenguinofDeath 21:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Where is the anonymous votes section? I would like to vote. 220.253.108.24 03:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

There is no longer a difference between IPs and users. Go ahead and vote. Toomai Glittershine eXemplary Logic cntrbs 03:25, 1 June 2009 (UTC)