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'''Griefing''' is the act of intentionally ruining other players' experience with a game. Seen in almost all co-operative multiplayer games, it entails a variety of acts aimed at causing one's own team to lose or making the game not fun for opponents. | '''Griefing''' is the act of intentionally ruining other players' experience with a game. Seen in almost all co-operative multiplayer games, it entails a variety of acts aimed at causing one's own team to lose or making the game not fun for opponents. | ||
Griefing in the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series | Griefing in the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series can consist of: | ||
*[[Self-destruct]]ing repeatedly and using [[share stock]]s to deprive others on the team of their stocks. | *[[Self-destruct]]ing repeatedly and using [[share stock]]s to deprive others on the team of their stocks. | ||
*Constant use of self-damaging moves such as many explosives simply to damage teammates. | *Constant use of self-damaging moves such as many explosives simply to damage teammates. | ||
*With [[team attack]] on, | *With [[team attack]] on, intentionally attacking teammates. | ||
*Crouching repeatedly (teabagging). | *Crouching repeatedly (teabagging). | ||
*Ganging up on a player in a free for all, especially if one player specifically uses ineffective moves (such as [[Water Gun]]) to just annoy the victim and distract them from the other players. | *Ganging up on a player in a free for all, especially if one player specifically uses ineffective moves (such as [[Water Gun]]) to just annoy the victim and distract them from the other players. | ||
*Deliberately attacking one specific player and either acting friendly with others or making no attempt to battle with anyone else. | *Deliberately attacking one specific player and either acting friendly with others or making no attempt to battle with anyone else. | ||
* | *Simply being useless, e.g. not taking any actions or doing nothing but [[taunt]]ing. | ||
* | *Continuously using one loud or annoying taunt (Such as Captain Falcon's Down Taunt or Wario's Up Taunt) to throw off or annoy the players around them. | ||
* | *Choosing an abnormally large stage such as [[Temple]], often in combination with a fast moving character such as [[Sonic]] or [[Fox]] to constantly and safely [[Camping#Circle camping|run away from the opponent.]] | ||
*Abusing tactics that | *Abusing tactics that makes themself very difficult or outright impossible to hit at all, such as the [[Infinite Dimensional Cape]] with {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}, [[shell hopping]] with {{SSBB|Falco}}, and other such [[stalling]] tactics. | ||
*Deliberately playing [[online]] with an awful internet connection to subject players to extremely [[Wi-Fi lag|laggy]] matches. | |||
*Employing [[hacks]] to desynchronize online participants or play as an invincible character such as [[Giga Bowser (Final Smash)|Giga Bowser]] or [[Wario-Man]]. | *Employing [[hacks]] to desynchronize online participants or play as an invincible character such as [[Giga Bowser (Final Smash)|Giga Bowser]] or [[Wario-Man]]. | ||
* | *Repeatedly using [[Pokémon Change]] with the {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} in online play to lag the game (although this does not work as effectively in ''Ultimate'', where the switch is much faster). | ||
* | *In online play on ''Smash For Wii U'', changing their name tag to something insulting or otherwise offensive, and optionally proceeding to play using the new name. | ||
*[[Quickplay]] in ''Ultimate'' can be subjected to its own specific forms of griefing: | |||
**Purposefully disconnecting from an online match so their opponent doesn't gain any GSP for beating them. | |||
**Intentionally tanking one's GSP so that they can get matched with much weaker players to beat up on. | |||
**Deliberately using nonsensical rules on [[Quickplay]] like running three stocks with an abnormally short time limit. One can also run more casual oriented rules with the intention of griefing competitive players, particularly in higher GSP ranges, though it's ambiguous if one is running such rules with that intention or because they legitimately want to play with those rules. | |||
**In early versions of ''Ultimate'', the [[Special Flag]] was an individually toggable item for Quickplay. This resulted in griefers running rules that had only the Special Flag enabled, often in combination with [[Stamina]], causing matches where eliminating the opponent's stocks was nigh-imposssible and so guaranteeing every match going to [[time out]]. [[List of updates (SSBU)#3.1.0|Version 3.1.0]] would remove the option to toggle Special Flags in Quickplay to prevent this. | |||
*In ''Ultimate'', Battle Arenas are also susceptible to their own specific forms of griefing: | |||
**Going into Arenas with competitive rules and where the option for players to choose their own stages is enabled, then deliberately picking a noncompetitive stage, especially one that enables circle camping. | |||
**Joining an Arena with a 2-player limit, and then deliberately staying in the Waiting Area or the Spectator Stands instead of entering the ring, forcing the Arena host to kick them. This can be attempted with larger Arenas to take up a spot, but as long as one other player is able to join, it doesn't completely prevent any matches from happening. | |||
**As the Arena host, kicking a person mid-match to force all players back to the arena. This can be extended to abusing their kicking powers in general, such as kicking someone right as they get into the ring after waiting a long time, or kicking people to bypass the queue to immediately get back into the ring after losing. | |||
**If enabled, playing loud sounds or music over ''Ultimate''{{'}}s Voice Chat in Arenas to annoy players or cause voice chat lag. | |||
*Reporting a player for no legitimate reason, or for losing to that player. | |||
*When [[Miiverse (social network)|Miiverse]] was active, sending a player a friend request attached to an insulting message. In ''Ultimate'', they can instead send a friend request over the Switch's friend system while changing their name to display as an insult or something else offensive. | |||
Griefing was especially common in [[Basic Brawl]], as the combination of anonymity, complete lack of control over the match rules, free for alls being mandatory, and no restriction over stage and item selection created conditions unfavorable for serious matches and ripe for griefers to abuse. This is one of the main criticisms players had of Basic Brawl, as many found it unenjoyable for those choosing not to resort to griefing themselves. | Griefing was especially common in [[Basic Brawl]], as the combination of anonymity, complete lack of control over the match rules, free for alls being mandatory, and no restriction over stage and item selection created conditions unfavorable for serious matches and ripe for griefers to abuse. This is one of the main criticisms players had of Basic Brawl, as many found it unenjoyable for those choosing not to resort to griefing themselves. | ||
Unlike ''Brawl''{{'}}s Wi-Fi mode, which was entirely unmoderated, the one in ''[[ | Unlike ''Brawl''{{'}}s Wi-Fi mode, which was entirely unmoderated, the one in ''[[Smash 4 ]]'' allows the reporting of griefers, which can result in them being sent to [[For Glory Hell]]. | ||
''Ultimate'' | Griefing persists in ''Ultimate'', but its impact can be better mitigated, through the better reporting system, and with players being able to block anyone they play, which will then prevent them from being matched together on Quickplay and prevent each other from joining their Battle Arenas for the duration of the block. | ||
Some competitive players are also known for griefing; the practice is generally reviled, as it shows poor sportsmanship and contributes to an unhealthy gaming atmosphere. One such player is {{Sm|Manny}}, who has been criticized by the community for his frequent acts of griefing, including yelling at {{Sm|Mew2King}} during a set. | Some competitive players are also known for griefing; the practice is generally reviled, as it shows poor sportsmanship and contributes to an unhealthy gaming atmosphere. One such player is {{Sm|Manny}}, who has been criticized by the community for his frequent acts of griefing, including yelling at {{Sm|Mew2King}} during a set. | ||
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Revision as of 21:07, April 18, 2022
Griefing is the act of intentionally ruining other players' experience with a game. Seen in almost all co-operative multiplayer games, it entails a variety of acts aimed at causing one's own team to lose or making the game not fun for opponents.
Griefing in the Super Smash Bros. series can consist of:
- Self-destructing repeatedly and using share stocks to deprive others on the team of their stocks.
- Constant use of self-damaging moves such as many explosives simply to damage teammates.
- With team attack on, intentionally attacking teammates.
- Crouching repeatedly (teabagging).
- Ganging up on a player in a free for all, especially if one player specifically uses ineffective moves (such as Water Gun) to just annoy the victim and distract them from the other players.
- Deliberately attacking one specific player and either acting friendly with others or making no attempt to battle with anyone else.
- Simply being useless, e.g. not taking any actions or doing nothing but taunting.
- Continuously using one loud or annoying taunt (Such as Captain Falcon's Down Taunt or Wario's Up Taunt) to throw off or annoy the players around them.
- Choosing an abnormally large stage such as Temple, often in combination with a fast moving character such as Sonic or Fox to constantly and safely run away from the opponent.
- Abusing tactics that makes themself very difficult or outright impossible to hit at all, such as the Infinite Dimensional Cape with Meta Knight, shell hopping with Falco, and other such stalling tactics.
- Deliberately playing online with an awful internet connection to subject players to extremely laggy matches.
- Employing hacks to desynchronize online participants or play as an invincible character such as Giga Bowser or Wario-Man.
- Repeatedly using Pokémon Change with the Pokémon Trainer in online play to lag the game (although this does not work as effectively in Ultimate, where the switch is much faster).
- In online play on Smash For Wii U, changing their name tag to something insulting or otherwise offensive, and optionally proceeding to play using the new name.
- Quickplay in Ultimate can be subjected to its own specific forms of griefing:
- Purposefully disconnecting from an online match so their opponent doesn't gain any GSP for beating them.
- Intentionally tanking one's GSP so that they can get matched with much weaker players to beat up on.
- Deliberately using nonsensical rules on Quickplay like running three stocks with an abnormally short time limit. One can also run more casual oriented rules with the intention of griefing competitive players, particularly in higher GSP ranges, though it's ambiguous if one is running such rules with that intention or because they legitimately want to play with those rules.
- In early versions of Ultimate, the Special Flag was an individually toggable item for Quickplay. This resulted in griefers running rules that had only the Special Flag enabled, often in combination with Stamina, causing matches where eliminating the opponent's stocks was nigh-imposssible and so guaranteeing every match going to time out. Version 3.1.0 would remove the option to toggle Special Flags in Quickplay to prevent this.
- In Ultimate, Battle Arenas are also susceptible to their own specific forms of griefing:
- Going into Arenas with competitive rules and where the option for players to choose their own stages is enabled, then deliberately picking a noncompetitive stage, especially one that enables circle camping.
- Joining an Arena with a 2-player limit, and then deliberately staying in the Waiting Area or the Spectator Stands instead of entering the ring, forcing the Arena host to kick them. This can be attempted with larger Arenas to take up a spot, but as long as one other player is able to join, it doesn't completely prevent any matches from happening.
- As the Arena host, kicking a person mid-match to force all players back to the arena. This can be extended to abusing their kicking powers in general, such as kicking someone right as they get into the ring after waiting a long time, or kicking people to bypass the queue to immediately get back into the ring after losing.
- If enabled, playing loud sounds or music over Ultimate's Voice Chat in Arenas to annoy players or cause voice chat lag.
- Reporting a player for no legitimate reason, or for losing to that player.
- When Miiverse was active, sending a player a friend request attached to an insulting message. In Ultimate, they can instead send a friend request over the Switch's friend system while changing their name to display as an insult or something else offensive.
Griefing was especially common in Basic Brawl, as the combination of anonymity, complete lack of control over the match rules, free for alls being mandatory, and no restriction over stage and item selection created conditions unfavorable for serious matches and ripe for griefers to abuse. This is one of the main criticisms players had of Basic Brawl, as many found it unenjoyable for those choosing not to resort to griefing themselves.
Unlike Brawl's Wi-Fi mode, which was entirely unmoderated, the one in Smash 4 allows the reporting of griefers, which can result in them being sent to For Glory Hell.
Griefing persists in Ultimate, but its impact can be better mitigated, through the better reporting system, and with players being able to block anyone they play, which will then prevent them from being matched together on Quickplay and prevent each other from joining their Battle Arenas for the duration of the block.
Some competitive players are also known for griefing; the practice is generally reviled, as it shows poor sportsmanship and contributes to an unhealthy gaming atmosphere. One such player is Manny, who has been criticized by the community for his frequent acts of griefing, including yelling at Mew2King during a set.