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::::If you're going to assume users are too ignorant about freshness (which may be a valid concern, I don't know), then put "Damages below do not account for freshness or staleness" at the top of every moveset section instead of putting a calculation result in every description. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Inconceivable 17:52, 14 October 2012 (EDT) | ::::If you're going to assume users are too ignorant about freshness (which may be a valid concern, I don't know), then put "Damages below do not account for freshness or staleness" at the top of every moveset section instead of putting a calculation result in every description. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Inconceivable 17:52, 14 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:::::"Deals 23% fresh" is fine enough, and I see you ignored my second post about how the moveset tables leave room for both. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:52, 14 October 2012 (EDT) | :::::"Deals 23% fresh" is fine enough, and I see you ignored my second post about how the moveset tables leave room for both. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:52, 14 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::::::I didn't ignore your second part, I just apparently didn't make my statement on it clear enough: Why do we want to put a calculation result in every description when a simple explanation at the top of the page is sufficient? The freshness bonus is so small compared to charged smashes or specials that it really does not need to be part of a damage listing, and the only reason it could seem to matter at all is because of how anything that deals 20% or more has a freshness bonus of over 1%, which even then is easily drowned out by all the other leftover decimals of over moves. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Honcho 21:06, 14 October 2012 (EDT) |
Revision as of 21:06, October 14, 2012
I will brawl anyone that challenges me, regardless of their skill level. If you want to Brawl me, contact me here or on the IRC. If you wish, you can also ask me for my Wii code (to exchange vault data). If you do brawl me, be sure to have tourney rules set unless noted otherwise. I'm semi-active on IRC, and due to my inconsistent sleeping patterns, you can find me on there in the most unusual of hours.
If there's something you wish to speak to me in private with, and cannot catch me on IRC (or cannot use IRC for whatever reason), you can contact me on Skype and MSN (which you can ask here for the addresses of).
Autoconfirmed
Unless it's changed since I became autoconfirmed, you do have to become autoconfirmed to move pages here. I originally joined this wiki with the two purposes of voting in the SA and moving The Flop Block, but I couldn't do the latter while I was not autoconfirmed. Granted, I became autoconfirmed a long time ago, but I've never seen any changes be made to the criteria. If there have been changes, let me know. Toast ltimatum 11:21, 31 August 2012 (EDT)
- I've could of sworn the move page option was available for my non autoconfirmed test account, but alas, I was mistaken. Omega Tyrant 11:26, 31 August 2012 (EDT)
Question
How do you move a page or an image without leaving a redirect? Bandit 08:08, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
- There were be a clickable option saying "Leave a redirect behind". If you don't want to leave a redirect, uncheck it. Omega Tyrant 08:14, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
- For me, there's no option saying "Leave a redirect behind". Is it only accessible to admins, or is there something wrong with my account? Bandit 08:18, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
- It was previously accessible to admins only, but as I recall, users were giving that option so admins wouldn't have unnecessary redirects to delete. It seems that has been changed though, as I just checked in with Garo, who does not have that option either. Omega Tyrant 09:08, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
- I don't think the
suppressredirect
right was ever handed to non-admins in the past. It might be a useful thing for autoconfirmed users to have I guess; you can make a proposal if you think likewise. Toomai Glittershine The Frivolous 09:42, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
- I don't think the
- It was previously accessible to admins only, but as I recall, users were giving that option so admins wouldn't have unnecessary redirects to delete. It seems that has been changed though, as I just checked in with Garo, who does not have that option either. Omega Tyrant 09:08, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
- For me, there's no option saying "Leave a redirect behind". Is it only accessible to admins, or is there something wrong with my account? Bandit 08:18, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
Zair
The term Zair is definitely more widespread, that's the term I would always use, but I still don't think we can on the wiki. From my experience, any instances of "A button attack" or "Up B" have to be changed to non-specific names for the sakes of the sideways Wii Remote, so Zair should be the same, especially as zair only applies to one control scheme. I would also note that further down the page, Toon Link (SSBB) refers to the attack as a Grab Air with zair in parentheses. Toast ltimatum 20:08, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
- I would have to disagree in this case. While "up special" is fully recognisable, flows well, and is often used instead of "up b", it's not the case here. I never see "grab air" used instead of "zair", and "grab air" itself sounds rather awkward. Zair flows a lot better and is a lot more recognisable, and while there are other controller types, the GCN controller is still the most commonly used controller. Omega Tyrant 20:19, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
What's Zair? I've never heard of it. Bandit 20:24, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
I had no idea or ever heard of Zair until now, tbh. Bandit 20:28, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
- It's a term more often used by competitive players. Officially it is called a tether, though that is a poor shorthand name since it can also refer to several up specials and two side specials. Mr. Anontalk 20:29, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
Matts!
He isn't an actual professional, he is really is considered to be a professional troll..I wasn't making a bad pun * LoS PPS KoRos (talk) 16:19, 10 September 2012 (EDT)
- Alright, you can put whichever skill classification he best fits under then in the skill spot then. The professional troll thing belongs in the article though rather than in the infobox. Omega Tyrant 16:32, 10 September 2012 (EDT)
Oi
Can I get you on IRC sometime between 10:15 and 2:00? Toomai Glittershine The Metroid 08:01, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
IRC
Hasn't my ban been lifted? It's been 3 days already and it still hasn't been lifted. Bandit 08:07, 19 September 2012 (EDT)
- There was the day you went unbanned when you should of been banned, so no, the three days are not up yet. When you can access the channel again, your ban is up. Omega Tyrant 11:19, 19 September 2012 (EDT)
Casual Self-Taken Smasher Images
Why exactly should they not be used in Smasher articles? Smasher articles should show what the Smasher looks like, why must the image be taken by another Smasher? Toast ltimatum 15:59, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
- If Omega Tyrant does not want his personal information on the mainspace, you should abide by that. Mr. Anontalk 17:04, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
If you wouldn't mind
...could you round up all the userpages you've protected and submit their owners to SW:RFP? I will unprotect the pages after each one is probated. Toomai Glittershine The Producer 11:17, 29 September 2012 (EDT)
I shall notify
Sonicsidekick95 opposed the Prat Falling merge on his own accord, I never asked him to do it. Toast ltimatum 06:25, 30 September 2012 (EDT)
- Whether you asked him or not is irrelevant, it still was a blind support repeating things you've said that were already discredited. Omega Tyrant 06:32, 30 September 2012 (EDT)
About YoshiEggs and Bowzerdude
You know, Omega Tyrant, YoshiEggs and Bowzerdude are doing nothing but voting in the Smash Arena. Should you protect their userpages and have them join Drakon? Marioisawesome118 15:07, 30 September 2012 (EDT)
- YoshiEggs hasn't edited for months (don't know about Bowzerdude though) so I don't think they're much of a problem. BlindColours 17:18, 30 September 2012 (EDT)
Category caps note
Shouldn't it be "VIP players", not "VIP Players"? Toomai Glittershine The Non-Toxic 11:42, 8 October 2012 (EDT)
Pros
Since you reverted my edits about categorizing pros, then what kind of people should go into the pro category then? Dots The Cute Asian 17:17, 12 October 2012 (EDT)
Listing damage with/without freshness/staleness
You said on Smash Master's talk page "The freshness bonus does not apply in training mode [...], so percentage gotten from there should not be used". Why do you think this? Response on IRC might be preferred since this will likely result in a big back-and-forth. Toomai Glittershine The Labbie 16:16, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- It's more useful/practical to list the damage with the freshness bonus applied. Knowing Ganon's dair will deal 23% fresh is more useful to the player than knowing that the move is programmed to deal 22% as its base damage. Omega Tyrant 17:16, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- Doesn't that then ruin things like calculation of damage done when countered/absorbed/stale/everything, and understanding of damage dealt in all non-versus/HRC modes? Toomai Glittershine The Irrepressible 17:21, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- How exactly does that "ruin things"? And knowing stale-move negation doesn't apply outside those modes is enough understanding of how damage is dealt in those modes. Omega Tyrant 17:33, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- I'll also point out your moveset tables leave room to put the programmed damage, while leaving room for the practical damage to be listed in the move's description. Omega Tyrant 17:35, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- If you're going to assume users are too ignorant about freshness (which may be a valid concern, I don't know), then put "Damages below do not account for freshness or staleness" at the top of every moveset section instead of putting a calculation result in every description. Toomai Glittershine The Inconceivable 17:52, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- "Deals 23% fresh" is fine enough, and I see you ignored my second post about how the moveset tables leave room for both. Omega Tyrant 19:52, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- I didn't ignore your second part, I just apparently didn't make my statement on it clear enough: Why do we want to put a calculation result in every description when a simple explanation at the top of the page is sufficient? The freshness bonus is so small compared to charged smashes or specials that it really does not need to be part of a damage listing, and the only reason it could seem to matter at all is because of how anything that deals 20% or more has a freshness bonus of over 1%, which even then is easily drowned out by all the other leftover decimals of over moves. Toomai Glittershine The Honcho 21:06, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- "Deals 23% fresh" is fine enough, and I see you ignored my second post about how the moveset tables leave room for both. Omega Tyrant 19:52, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- If you're going to assume users are too ignorant about freshness (which may be a valid concern, I don't know), then put "Damages below do not account for freshness or staleness" at the top of every moveset section instead of putting a calculation result in every description. Toomai Glittershine The Inconceivable 17:52, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
- Doesn't that then ruin things like calculation of damage done when countered/absorbed/stale/everything, and understanding of damage dealt in all non-versus/HRC modes? Toomai Glittershine The Irrepressible 17:21, 14 October 2012 (EDT)